Guts, Glory, and Immortality - The Official Triple H vs Undertaker WrestleMania XXVII Match Discussion Thread

[James Steele]

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Discuss the epic encounter that awaits us between these two icons at WRESTLEMANIA!

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[Tazz Dan]

The MAC and that other tosser should take note. THIS is how you you do a good trolling thread :y:

[D Mac]

Spoiler: Taker wins.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

SPOILER: No contest due to one of the participants being a fucking zombie.

Hopefully the officials finally take note of this.

[James Steele]

The stickying of this thread is one of the greatest moments in the history of TPWW.

[Aguakate]

The stickying of this thread is one of the greatest moments in the history of TPWW.

LOL this guy's awesome.

[dronepool]

I wouldn't mind if he does it.

[James Steele]

FFor those of you have never seen my sig, click the spoiler tag. My sig is easily one of the greatest in all of TPWW.

This is just a preview of it:

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[Mr. Nerfect]

I haven't seen RAW yet, but I'm becoming more and more excited about the idea of the match. I think I'll enjoy the story more than the match itself.

Ten years ago, Triple H was cutting a promo about how he's beaten everyone in the WWE. Then The Undertaker came out and said "Boy, this is my yard." It led to a clash at WrestleMania which saw The Undertaker finally best the resilient Triple H. Also, correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe this may have been one of the first mentions by Jim Ross of The Undertaker's budding WrestleMania streak. The defeat of Triple H is where this streak became not just a statistic, but something of legend, and a drawing point of WrestleMania itself.

We then got the draft, and Triple H and The Undertaker, for the most part, controlled different dominions. Triple H used politics, his ambition, his brains alongside his ring skill to gain steady control of RAW, while The Undertaker used his mystique and legacy to intimidate all those as the icon of SmackDown!.

Somewhere along the line, due to personal issues with Triple H's father-in-law, Vince McMahon, Triple H's close friend and later-stage mentor, Ric Flair, was forced to put his career on the line everytime he entered the ring. Flair eventually fell to Triple H's best friend and arguably greatest rival, Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania XXIV. Triple H had to watch his best friend kick a man who had become his father figure in the face.

A year later, HBK challenged the The Undertaker at the silver anniversary of WrestleMania, where HBK came up short, but their battle eclipsed the main event -- which saw Triple H successfully defend his unprecedented 8th WWE Title and 13th World Title in the WWE -- a record which stands today. The following year, Shawn Michaels & Triple H would lose their first Tag Team Championship together due to Michaels' distraction with The Undertaker -- the one win that evaded him, and the part of the boyhood dream left incomplete in his journey to become "The Greatest of All-Time." HBK would challenge The Last Outlaw again, against the advice of Triple H, and would become The Undertaker's 18th WrestleMania victory.

Now, a year later, sitting at home with his children, accepting that his career might prematurely be over due to the actions of Sheamus at Extreme Rules -- Triple H hears that his close friend, Shawn Michaels, has been inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame almost instantly after his career ended, about a month before Triple H's was -- and he has to hear him referred to as "The Greatest Ever." Can that sit well with a man who has won as many world championships in the WWE as The Rock and Shawn Michaels combined? He literally married into the company's corporate lounge, and yet HBK, whom he does greatly respect, gets the attention and the label as "The Greatest Ever?"

A year after HBK's career ended at The Grandest Stage of the Them All, and almost a year after he was told he should never step foot in a WWE ring again -- a man who called himself "The Game," returns to prove that he can beat The Undertaker at WrestleMania -- something no one has ever done in twenty years. Because he's that damn good...

[XL]

If only that was the promo on Raw...

[MoFo]

Shit feud, uninteresting match.

[Jordan]

I think I want Noid to book this match.

[Lara Emily]

Raw's promo was so bad it may standing in silence for 10 minutes more interesting. I wasn't feeling the build last week now I'm feeling it even less

[Droford]

Im willing to bet money that HBK costs HHH the match and then we end up with HBK vs HHH one fucking last time*

*unless its not

[legendkillerRKO]

My impersonation of HHH's promo on Raw:

"Blah blah blah deadman. Wrestlemania, streak, blah blah deadman! I beat everyone....DEADMAN!"

I swear if he used the word deadman one more time I was gunna punch a baby.

[GD]

They should make it a 2 out of 3 falls match. So even if Hunter loses the match, he would become the first person to actually pin the Undertaker at Wrestlemania.

[Droford]

They should make it an Iron man match so HHH can pin him 18 times for every Wrestlemania match hes won.

[The Jayman]

A Hell in a Cell for obvious reasons

[James Steele]

I'm about to rename this thread Bitchamania: Showcase of the Whiny Cunts

[The Jayman]

I'm about to rename this thread Bitchamania: Showcase of the Whiny Cunts

Well that would not be a good name for The Official Triple H vs Undertaker WrestleMania XXVII Match Discussion Thread

[James Steele]

Well that would not be a good name for The Official Triple H vs Undertaker WrestleMania XXVII Match Discussion Thread

This thread has been taken over by trolls and those who incessantly bitch about things. I will turn this into an official bitching thread to keep the bitching out of the other threads and create an even bigger and better thread for the biggest match in the history of WRESTLEMANIAAAAAAAAAAA!

[James Steele]

Anyway, I WANT MY THREAD BACK..AND I KNOW HOW!

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[James Steele]

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[James Steele]

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What led me to my proverbial "seeing of the light" so-to-speak were two things: first, that at one time I considered HHH to be my favorite wrestler next only to The Rock and second, I recently did some digging for any and all information on the "Cerebral Assassin". Much to my surprise, I was dumb-founded with what I had uncovered.
</td></tr></tbody></table> Seems like Paul Levesque, aka Hunter Hearst-Helmsley aka The Game, is that damn good. However I must credit www.triplehunleashed.com (http://www.triplehunleashed.com/) for making me see the error of my ways. Had I not come across this site out of boredom, I may still be among the legions of naysayers who have issues with Levesque and HHH. Gratefully, my once skewed viewpoint has been straightened to a certain degree.

Don't get me wrong, I still had my gripes. The 30-minute promos, the predictable matches, the dominant title reigns: HHH has used all of these tactics much to the chagrin of the avid internet smark. But who hasn't" On top of that, once I really thought about those three factors and how they pertain to the business, those gripes turned to gratitude.

If you want to hate on his promos, at least the guy can get fans to listen, at least he deserves to have a mic in his hand (compared to some of the lackluster orators who find it the epitome of difficulty to even string together a coherent sentence, much less a monologue riveted with passion and intensity). If I had a choice of a heel promo, give me Trip's any day of the week.

If you want to hate on his predictable matches than go ahead and throw Flair, Cena, HBK, Austin, Hogan, Rock, hell, throw 75% of the marquee superstars of this industry into the exact same category because like it or not: when a wrestler is "over" with the fans, they know the fans want to see those signature spots. It's smart money-making.

If you want to hate on his title reigns, then you must really not understand the business as well as you think you do. I don't know about you, but HHH restored so much credibility to the championship that I couldn't wait to see him drop the belt, it made me salivate that much more for a deserving star to grab the ball and run with it. Or would you rather have the days of WCW when the belt meant nothing more than some gold and leather, because it was being switched left and right to undeserving "wrestlers". (David Arquette anyone")

The truth is this: HHH has done his job better than anyone on the current roster, both shows included. Why" Because he's truly made all us smarks hate him, loathe him and BELIEVE IN THE UNDERCARD. That's the whole point of a heel, right" They make us hate them, make us hurl obscenities, even drive us to the point of swearing off wrestling... but we still watch with baited breath for the moment that heel is toppled and makes way for the new blood. HHH is the best heel in the history of this industry because during a time of low ratings and weak buy rates, he has given the belt the legacy it deserves, the respect it commands.

More importantly, Levesque himself is the complete opposite of the character he portrays. While HHH has turned on his friends time and time again for the sake of power (X-Pac, Nash, HBK), Levesque on the other hand supported his friends during the infamous Kliq-Madison Square Garden incident, stood by his decision and took his punishment like a man.

While HHH has a hunger for violence and destruction, Levesque seems like a sincerely "good" person. His "confrontation" with Bill Goldberg at a certain convention was more so Goldberg's immaturity and lack of professionalism to which Levesque laughed off with the best of intentions.

While HHH has had an iron-grip on the title, seemingly reluctant to drop it, Levesque has stated his desire to work with many of today's top workers. He truly believes in a lot of talent out there, but he knows the nature of this business. He knows what draws money and he, despite many insider accounts, sees promise in working with young up-and-comers and looks forward to helping them become a "polished stone".

Trust me, I read a lot on the net about Trip. I've read articles from "insider professionals" which do nothing but spew venom claiming the WWE is heading for disaster because of Levesque's supposed "pull" with Vince. I've read countless entries from smarks saying he's holding people down. I used to believe all this, all because I refused to give him his due. Scores of wrestlers say HHH is everything he claims to be and more. Ric Flair has said, "Triple H is the best wrestler alive in the business today. Coming from me that's about as strong of an assessment there can be." The Undertaker himself said, "Triple H has definitely earned my respect....and uh, you know, I don't throw praise lightly."

And if you honestly believe he's the nail in the WWE's coffin than why not read what many other wrestlers say about him. I mean that should be as close as getting it from the source as us smark's are going to get. If you search, you'll see they respect him for being a dedicated wrestler who has a passion for the industry paralleled by few wrestlers. If you search, read about the kind of work ethic he brings to table, read about the commitment to excellence he harbours, read about the countless number of superstars he's helped create, legacies he's helped preserve. If you search, you'll see a side of HHH that may surprise you, like it did me.

Search and seek, for the truth will set HHH free.

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[James Steele]

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[James Steele]

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[James Steele]

HHH is awesome.

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[James Steele]

HHH has an interesting effect on wrestlers. He can make me care about a guy I normally wouldn't be able to stand. I enjoyed Kozlov in his program with HHH, and so far still do.
The same went for Umaga. When he fueded with HHH he felt far more legit than he ever did.

HHH's heel work in 2003 in underrated. I'll be the first to disapprove of the burials that occured and the missed oppurtunities with popular wrestlers.
However, as much as he did to prevent them from getting over, he was also a big reason why they were that over in the first place.
He was a great foil for faces that year. So much so, that with each passing burial/title retention, it got better and better. In a lot of ways, the crowds were rooting for him to lose the title, and not for the face to win it. RVD and Booker T, and others, were over on their own merit don't get me wrong. But his contributions as a heel were great.
I feel as though almost anyone would have the fans in their corner that year just by facing him for the title. If I recall correctly, he faced a lone Bubba Ray Dudley for the belt one night and the fans were way into it.
This was a big part of why YOUKNOWWHO's win was so great at the time.

He did a lot of burying, and caused me a lot of anger, but HHH in 2003 was a hell of a heel run.

HHH is pretty balla. K4L.

H is awesome.

Triple H is my hero, Long live Triple H.

[James Steele]

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Hey he is banging Steph and has a share in the company. Thumbs up to him.


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I have come to like Triple H over the years, the first event of WWE I ever saw was Royal Rumble 2000. This saw Triple H vs Cactus Jack for the WWE Title where Trips retained. The best things about him IMO are his timing and his ability to entertain in a match.

i mark out for few people.
1. Trips
2. Angle
3. Orton (yeah, i know =/)
4. Austin


big Triple H fan right here
It's All About The Game

[Mr. Pierre]

This match is gonna steal the show. It's gonna be a totally different story than HBK/Taker, so I don't even think we can compare it on that level. I'm glad they decided on this match :y:

[Icess]

For the people who dislike this match, what would you have them do? Taker and Trips deserve to be on the show; they have earned that in their career, so what program would you have them start?

I've heard Shamus/Trips, but it's been done. Where else do they really need to go? A conclusion would be nice, but it would be a forgone conclusion that they would have H go over after coming off an injury. I'm sure some people think this match is predictable, but the lead up is what we are looking for (and the match itself could be ace).

What do you do with Taker? Pit him against Barret? Why? Most agree that the end of the streak would be a great way to propel someone into the main event/legend stratosphere. The unfortunate part is that this only occurs once, and Taker is likely done afterwards. Is he ready to walk away? Are we as fans ready for him to retire?

I like the match, and look forward to it. I can't think of anything I'd rather see out of these two. And Steele's article puts it nicely, the guys in the back (the legends) sing praises of HHH. Jericho's new book also makes you love Trips even more.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[DLVH84]

April 1, 2001...WrestleMania XVII...The Undertaker and Triple H fought and the Deadman won.

10 years later...WrestleMania XXVII...the rematch...Will it be Game Over for the Deadman's streak or will the King of Kings rest in peace?

[Tazz Dan]

Thread of the year right here :y:

[Corporate CockSnogger]

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[Corporate CockSnogger]

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[James Steele]

When and where was that pic taken? Undertaker looks like he is taking his talents to South Beach...in 1999.

[James Steele]

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[Corporate CockSnogger]

When and where was that pic taken? Undertaker looks like he is taking his talents to South Beach...in 1999.

No idea, I just found it on Google.

[James Steele]

Based on the age lines on Triple H's forehead, the short hair on the Undertaker, Stephanie McMahon, and The Rock...I would guess it was some WWF Company event circa 2002.

[Londoner]

They really missed the trick with HHH's promo on monday, and sadly its the same way all promo's seem to go these days. 'i will win, blah blah, blah see you at wrestlemania, etc' they had a couple of things they could've used to hype this up, like their previous match at WM or HBK's retirement, but used nothing and just went for the streak itsself and acted like HHH has never faced Taker before or something. Just dissapointed by that really but still time for them to do that i suppose, don't get the feeling they will though.

[Sixx]

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What the fuck is that? She fell asleep on the tanning bed?

[Jura]

I think it was a bodybuilding contest and they put that weird dark stuff on their bodies so the muscles look more defined and cut.

[Swiss Ultimate]

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Will it be better than this?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I'm looking forward to this match because their last one was so great, but if they're planning to make the hook of this match that it's a battle between the last two legends in the company, I'm gonna feel a little underwhelmed. The matches that really worked well are the ones where Taker's opponent basically goes nuts about beating him (See Orton, Flair, Edge, Michaels).

Not that a battle between legends isn't a draw, it just seems like it's the lesser of two choices.

[Volare]

No. Back then the brawl HHH and Taker had fit their storyline to a T. This time around it's more personal professionally speaking, so it will be a different match all around this time.