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Ultra Mantis
03-05-2011, 11:02 AM
Wierd Japanese game alert.

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/112/1129927p1.html (http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/112/1129927p1.html)
It's not Persona 5, but the first HD game from the team that made Persona has a final release date in Japan.

A couple of months ago, we first wrote about a game called "Catherine." This is team Persona's first HD game, and it's now scheduled for Japanese release on February 17. Atlus is targeting 150,000 unit sales.

The premise of Catherine remains as bizarre as when it was first announced. Actually, it's grown even stranger with every update.

In Catherine, you play as Vincent, a salaryman with zero ambition. One day, he meets a girl named Catherine at a coffee shop and ends up having a one-night stand with her. From that day, he starts having strange nightmares. Surrounded by walking lambs, he must climb a lengthy flight of stairs while being chased by strange creatures. If he dies in the dream, he'll die in real life.

Here's where it gets strange. It turns out that Vincent, who himself seems to be assuming lamb-like properties in the dreams, already had a girlfriend when he hooked up with Catherine. Her name is Katherine (with a K!) and he may have gotten her pregnant. It also seems that Vincent's friends, all with the same "loser" setting as Vincent himself, are seeing the same nightmares as Vincent.

We're not really sure what Vincent will play like at present. The action part of the game appears to take place in the stair-filled dream world, with players having to flee from attacking creatures. The latest screens (see our media gallery) show some disturbing creature designs courtesy of art director Shigenori Soejima. For the record, the giant zombie baby calls Vincent "Papa."

Atlus has plenty of time to share gameplay details. The premise alone seems to have won over audiences both in Japan and abroad (the game's director, Katsura Hashino recently expressed surprise with the amount of overseas feedback the game's first trailer got on YouTube). Let's hope Atlus sees the positive reaction and considers an international release for Catherine.

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Catherine will be released in North America this Summer. The main part of the game takes place during recurring "nightmares" and is puzzle-based tower climbing with bosses thrown in. The choices you make during the "daytime" adventure gameplay (not sure if this includes masturbating in a toilet stall) will effect your karma, giving the game multiple endings. Looks very interesting in a fucked up kind of way.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-05-2011, 11:10 AM
Looks good, like a fucked up super-hard Q-Bert.

Was gonna post this myself, but then I realised it might not make Europe :'(

Ultra Mantis
03-05-2011, 11:18 AM
They just need a third party publisher to get on it, less popular / hyped Atlus games have been released over here so I don't see any reason why they wouldn't jump on this.

Ultra Mantis
03-10-2011, 10:50 AM
Pretty in-depth preview from Destructoid (http://www.destructoid.com/preview-catherine-japanese-version--195528.phtml)

<p>Coming right behind <a href="http://www.destructoid.com/yes-catherine-confirmed-for-us-release-summer-2011-195346.phtml" target="_blank">Atlus' official announcement of a US release</a> for their first HD game, <i>Catherine</i>, is our preview of the Japanese version, which was just released a few weeks ago.</p>
<p>So, what have you heard? That it's not quite what you'd expect from Atlus? That it's a puzzle game? That it's horny? That it's insanely difficult? I can tell you <i>all of that is true</i>. What's also likely true is that just about everyone reading this preview wants <i>Catherine</i> (the game, not the girl) for themselves. Knowing that you've heard so much about it, and knowing that you're going to get it regardless of what I say, I can kick back, relax, and tell you exactly what I think of this game.</p>
<p>Buckle in, as I have a lot to say.</p>
<p>Read on for our preview of <i>Catherine.&nbsp;</i></p>

<p><i><span style="text-decoration: underline;">First impression was not great:</span></i></p>
<p>I'm sure my story with<i> Catherine</i> is similar to yours, at least starting off. We heard there was a new PS3 and Xbox 360 title from Atlus, and we heard it was coming from the <i>Persona</i> team. Excited? Yes. Then we saw it and how sexy it looked. Then the Japanese hype machine started and we all spun out into a fit. And then that day hit when we saw that <i>Catherine</i> was a puzzle game at its core. And here's where we probably parted ways. I was very disappointed.</p>
<p><img src="http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/195528-preview-catherine-japanese-version-/Serph-image31-620x.jpg" border="0" /><br /><i>WTF? This is a puzzle game?!</i></p>
<p>I really wanted <i>Catherine</i> to be an RPG of some sort that weaved in dating elements, but they didn't make this game for me. I kind of got over that, got my launch day copy of <i>Catherine</i>, and played it for just long enough to be discouraged that it wasn't an RPG. I played it just long enough to remind myself that I am not good at action-puzzle type games. And I honestly didn't pick it up for another week. I bitched that it was too hard to everyone that asked about it, and got in an extra dig by complaining that it wasn't really as sexy as they marketed it to be. Like a big baby.</p>
<p>But my sense of duty kicked in, and my inbox was hit with countless requests for a preview, so I really dug into it. Now that I've put some real time into it (I'm probably half way through it), I can say that I'm really enjoying it. I've completely changed my mind. This is a very fun game. If you can get over that it's a difficult puzzle game, and that it's really not as sexy as Atlus Japan marketed it to be, then you'll also dig it.</p>
<p><i><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Digging in:</span></i></p>
<p><b>Catherine is very easily spoiled</b>, so we'll stick to the basic framework of the story. You play as a guy named Vincent. Vince has a steady girl that is ready for commitment, but he's not quite. And then there's this other girl that quite literally falls into Vince's lap. She's just as attractive as his steady girl, but she's a bit more fun, and a bit less bitchy. Decisions, decisions. This in itself would be a terrible situation to be in, but it gets worse. People have been dying in their sleep, says the local news, and the rumor is that nightmares cause this death. What sucks for Vincent is that on top of his relationship troubles he too has been having some really strange nightmares.&nbsp;</p>
<p><img src="http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/195528-preview-catherine-japanese-version-/Serph-image46-620x.jpg" border="0" /></p>
<p>The core gameplay of <i>Catherine</i> is a climbing-style action puzzle. The reason you climb is for survival, as if to climb out of a dream. Sorry, but revealing more would be a spoiler. Let's just say that you dream (or have nightmares) frequently. In these nightmares you'll start at the bottom of a pile of cubes, and you'll have to use various skills to negotiate these cutes to make it to the top. It starts out as a race against time, as the cubes under foot will begin to fall. Later, it becomes quite a bit more urgent as something starts to chase you up the pile.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Those that remember arcade classic<i> Q*bert</i> will see some similarities, but <i>Catherine</i>'s gameplay is much more complex. You'll actually pull and push these cubes to create pathways where you can climb. With Vincent's limitation of only being able to climb the height of one cube, you'll need to push, pull, crawl and hang off edges to find the best way up. Each stage is actually a set, designed puzzle that you'll have to figure out for yourself. The designers really worked to make these challenging, so much so that even the first couple require you to put on your thinking cap.&nbsp;</p>
<p><img src="http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/195528-preview-catherine-japanese-version-/Serph-image51-620x.jpg" border="0" /><br /><i>Hint, hint.</i></p>
<p>It's <i>very</i> easy to get&nbsp;frustrated with these puzzles. The watercooler talk these past couple of weeks lets me know that I'm not alone. Frantic climbing was not fun for me at first, but it was the repeated deaths that really put me off. What I eventually learned is that I needed to broaden my skill set for climbing these cubes. The game does a really great job of educating players on how to tackle obstacles. My problem is that I wasn't paying enough attention. When I really took to heart what I was being told, I started to succeed and have fun. While the puzzles have become progressively more difficult, I find that I'm still able to cope with them. I don't want to spoil any story elements, but I do have a bit of advice that I'll put in the most general terms:<b> You need to talk to everybody. Or...everything.</b> This is the key to succeeding. I've since learned things that have actually made me slap my head. "OH!"</p>
<p>Let me be clear about one thing: The puzzle element is really fun. Forget what I said on Twitter. It wasn't for me at first, but the strategy becomes so deep that I'm kind of addicted to it. It really keeps me coming back. But so does the story.&nbsp;</p>
<p><i><span style="text-decoration: underline;">When you're not puzzle gaming:</span></i></p>
<p>Fans of how Atlus spins a story will love <i>Catherine</i>. Even if you hate the puzzle play, as I did at first, the story is so great that it easily keeps you going. Again, the story is very easily spoiled, so I recommend that you steer clear of other previews, videos or anything else that isn't sent out by Atlus USA proper. Much of your enjoyment will come out of gradually seeing how shitty Vincent's life can get. This guy has the best and worst luck ever and it's a joy to see how it all unfolds.&nbsp;</p>
<p><img src="http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/195528-preview-catherine-japanese-version-/Serph-image100-620x.jpg" border="0" /></p>
<p>You do get to explore, talk to people, uncover sub stories, develop characters and all the other great stuff that made you love the <i>Persona</i> games and other <i>Shin Megami Tensei</i> titles. Just because they tried something new with the puzzle game play doesn't mean that Atlus&nbsp;suddenly&nbsp;forgot how to do this stuff well. As a crazed fan of the <i>Persona</i> series I found myself fully satisfied with the story and relationship elements in <i>Catherine</i>.</p>
<p>It gets a bit deeper when you consider that you're often asked to make choices throughout the game. Some of them are straight moral choices, but others are simply matters of preference. S or M? Boy or Girl? Anything's game. You'll answer questions in person, on the phone, over email, and in your nightmares. &nbsp;Each answer you give figures into the ending in ways you likely won't fully know until the game ends. The only gauge you have is a meter that swings back and forth with each answer. Even the game says that you won't understand until later.</p>
<p><i><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Production values out the ass:</span></i></p>
<p>The dialogue is fantastic, the music is a new high point for composer Shoji Meguro, and the in-game cutscenes mixed with Studio 4C's animation are of an insane quality. The combination makes for one of the most amazing current gen expereinces, and certainly the best that Atlus has ever cranked out. And that's saying a lot.</p>
<p><img src="http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/195528-preview-catherine-japanese-version-/Serph-image54-620x.jpg" border="0" /><br /><i>He's not pooping, but he is straining</i></p>
<p>Beyond the face value stuff, <i>Catherine</i> just oozes style and polish. Everything is stylized and very original looking, from the characters to the locales. The facial and body animation is outstanding in the non-puzzle scenes, making the characters really easy to get into. The whole package is a visual treat -- Atlus really put some work into this one.&nbsp;</p>
<p>There's plenty of ear candy as well. Atlus in-house composer, Shoji Meguro, has been busy lately, but he's not burnt out. This is probably his best score yet. The action tunes are satisfying and the mystical, dark ones show that he's learned so much over the years. He also has a bit of fun with some of the pieces. He works the "Funeral March" song over a jazzy beat to underscore situations where relations with girls aren't going as well. I've purchased the soundtrack CD and have been enjoying it away from the game. It's that good.&nbsp;</p>
<p><i><span style="text-decoration: underline;">So, is it horny?:</span></i></p>
<p>Nope. Not really. Put it this way: It's barely more horny than <i>Persona 4</i> was. Yes, the main character is always in his boxers, and there is a bit of top boob here in there, but this isn't a sex game. All that stuff you saw on the internet was Atlus Japan's marketing choices. Spread legs will do wonders to get a game noticed, and they knew that. While the story is clearly sexual in nature, it's really more about how Vincent deals with his&nbsp;predicament&nbsp;than what he's doing at night with these girls. If you're looking for a peep show, pick up a porn game. This title will not satisfy in that way. While Atlus always makes classy games, they almost went too far with the marketing in Japan in my opinion. It was almost a case of misrepresentation. <i>Catherine</i> is much more tame than what you'd gather from the images and videos you've seen.</p>
<p><img src="http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/195528-preview-catherine-japanese-version-/Serph-image73-620x.jpg" border="0" /></p>
<p><i><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Some gripes:</span></i></p>
<p>I haven't finished the game yet, but I do have a few issues with the game.</p>
<p>One of my biggest may be nothing to you, unless you also become motion sick from shaking screens. I feel like it was <i><b>very, very poor choice</b></i> to have the entire screen shake when the boss approaches. I imagine the idea being thrown out at a board meeting, and someone approved it. Then some programmer went nuts. It's way too much. It's terribly disorienting, so much so that it makes those instances stop being fun. The excessive screen shaking in boss battles actually pulls me out of the game for a second. You'll be frantically climbing only to find that you're suddenly so dizzy that you have to look away from the screen. And then you die. I feel so strongly about this that I'd call it a major fault that has to be addressed. Thankfully you'll only encounter this in boss battles, and it only happens a few times during those battles. Toying with the gamer is fine, but making a scene disorienting and dizzying makes it the opposite of fun.</p>
<p><img src="http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/195528-preview-catherine-japanese-version-/Serph-image10-620x.jpg" border="0" /></p>
<p>My only other real gripe is that the orientation of control when climbing can sometimes get turned around with the camera. The camera can stay locked in an unmoved position for most of your time with this game, but there are a few times you'll have to crawl around back of these piles of cubes. It's then that the direction of your controls, from right to left, sometimes inexplicably flip. If you're not frantically climbing away from danger, you can stop and work your way out of this. Those situations are rare, though.</p>
<p>Besides these, there are a few times that a boss obscures your view, forcing you to let yourself die. It's a cheap death that you'll likely only encounter when you're not doing that great anyway.</p>
<p><i><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Conclusion: So you're not going to bitch about the difficulty?</span></i></p>
<p>No, I'm not. It's hard, yes. Super hard. But I'd go as far as saying that <a target="_blank" href="http://www.destructoid.com/catherine-deemed-too-hard-patch-will-lower-difficulty-194522.phtml">I don't even think it needs that patch</a> they said they'd release. I might change my mind as I get closer to the end of the game, but right now I'm fine dying 10 times to figure out what I'm doing wrong. I think the game does get dangerously close to being unbalanced toward the too difficult side, and there are some later stages that basically force you to use trial and error to figure it out, but I haven't quit yet. And this is coming from someone who is terrible at puzzle games. Again, it's all about paying attention to the optional dialogue.&nbsp;</p>
<p><img src="http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/195528-preview-catherine-japanese-version-/Serph-image133-620x.jpg" border="0" /></p>
<p>As I said in the intro, you already know you want this game, so it doesn't really matter what I say. Basically all I've done here is fill out some details for you and maybe gave you a few more reasons to be excited about its Summer 2011 release. <i>Catherine</i> is a fantastic game and you should continue to look forward to its release. Atlus tried something new and it really paid off. Hats off to them.

Fignuts
03-10-2011, 01:16 PM
Saw this in oxm. Shit is bonkers. I like new ideas though.

Funky Fly
03-10-2011, 02:11 PM
Seems cool, may bargain bin it.

Ultra Mantis
05-06-2011, 06:00 PM
From IGN (http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1165464p1.html?RSSwhen2011-05-02_110500&RSSid=1165464)<p>Today, publisher <a class='autolink' href='http://games.ign.com/objects/025/025011.html'>Atlus</a> has finally revealed a release date for its upcoming puzzle game <a class='autolink' href='http://ps3.ign.com/objects/083/083913.html'>Catherine</a>. It'll be ready for release on July 26th. Gamers who pre-order the game between now and its release will also have access to the "Catherine Sound Disc & Art Book," which chronicles the music and design of Catherine.
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<!-- start image div --><div class="imageInlineCenter" align="center" style="width:468px;"><img src="http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/116/1165464/catherine-20110502111104382.jpg" width="468" height="419" align="center" border="0" /><div class="inlineImageCaption" style="width:468px;"></div></div><!--- end image div -->Furthermore, <a class='autolink' href='http://games.ign.com/objects/025/025011.html'>Atlus</a> has announced a Deluxe Edition of Catherine that gamers can pre-order. The "Love is Over Deluxe Edition" will include a pair of polka dot boxers and t-shirts as worn by a character in the game, and a specially-themed Catherine pillow case. All of these extras will be boxed with the game itself in a collectible pizza box from Stray Sheep, which is a location in the game.


Still no word on a European release though. If there isn't going to be one I'll be importing when it gets cheaper.

Ultra Mantis
07-22-2011, 07:02 PM
From: gamepro.com (http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/221296/deep-silver-to-bring-catherine-to-pal-territories/)

Catherine is a strange and wonderful puzzle-adventure game that we rather liked in our recent review. Up until now, though, European players have been grinding their teeth in frustration at the fact that if they wanted to play Atlus' sexy thriller, they'd have to import a copy.

Europeans need fret no longer, however, since Catherine is coming across the pond thanks to Dead Island publisher Deep Silver. There is, sadly, no confirmed release date as yet, but it should be this year at least. The PAL territory version will release on both Xbox 360 and PS3 and feature localized text in French, German, Spanish and Italian as well as English.

Atlus doesn't have a publishing arm in Europe and other PAL territories, so past titles have come via a variety of companies. Persona 3 came from Koei, Persona 4 and Odin Sphere came via Square Enix and the Wii's Trauma Center games came through Nintendo itself -- Europe still hasn't seen a release of Trauma Team.

"We are very proud to be able to publish Catherine in all PAL territories as a Deep Silver game," said Klemens Kundratitz, CEO of Deep Silver. "Catherine is something new, fresh and exciting; unlike anything else in the gaming world –- a unique mixture of genres. This agreement proves once again that games published under the Deep Silver label are not 'more of the same,' 'run of the mill' productions.”

Catherine is out in the US on Tuesday, July 26.

:love:

Boomer
07-22-2011, 10:35 PM
I really hope the soundtrack is awesome, because I was crazy enough to pre-order it. I just love ridiculous concepts in games (but not Noby Noby style, if you call that a game).

Ultra Mantis
07-24-2011, 12:09 PM
I listened to some of the soundtrack on youtube a few months ago, the tracks based on classical compositions are pretty badass but I don't think you get those on the pre-order disc.

Emperor Smeat
08-04-2011, 07:17 PM
Catherine became the highest selling launch release game in Atlus' 20-year history for the US with 200,000 copies sold in the first week.

The US branch of Atlus celebrated the occasion with a cake.

http://i.screwattack.com/content/images/orig_29332_1_1312483529.jpg
http://screwattack.com/blogs/ScrewAttack-News/Catherine-sales-number-revealed-by-delicious-cake

RP
08-18-2011, 03:55 AM
Anyone playing this? I've read great reviews. Might be interested.

Boomer
08-18-2011, 08:21 AM
Anyone playing this? I've read great reviews. Might be interested.

Yeah, I beat it last week or so. I enjoyed it, but its definitely bizarre. The story gets classic JRPG ridiculous, but the puzzles are fun and the difficulty can get really challenging.

Kane Knight
08-18-2011, 08:27 AM
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