The Official TNA Victory Road 11 Thread

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[YoungFlyFlashy]

Yeah I know its early...

[Juan]

Yeah I know its early...

It's ok. This TNA event is so anticipated that I'm sure we'll have 4 pages of discussion before the event even starts.

[VSG]

Why does Sting look like a 13 year old guy with a bowl cut?

[YoungFlyFlashy]

...I will say, that these TNA hype videos are some of the best I've seen TNA do.

[Nicky Fives]

should be an above-average TNA pay-per-view.....

[Asmo]

Sting looks ridiculous in that match card. So do the Hardys, Anderson, Morgan, Max, Jeremy and Styles. Wonder what the photographer told them to do.

[YoungFlyFlashy]

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[Juan]

It's ok. This TNA event is so anticipated that I'm sure we'll have 4 pages of discussion before the event even starts.

I guess I was wrong.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

"It wouldn't be Victory Road without an inflatable doll."

Mike Tenay gets Victory Road off to a hot start.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Still irrationally hate it when a thread is "official" when no-one with any officiating powers has made it so.

It was an internet joke from the 90's that still carries on.

[MoFo]

I like that Rosita lass, looks liek a latina Trish Stratus.

[taker707]

seriously tna two crappy finishes in a row . You were doing so good with Impact and now this crap.

[taker707]

Ultimat x should be great though

[Phenomenal 1]

no streams posted in the stream grp.....sad

[VSG]

Just tuned in to see what's up and I see Ric Flair fondling AJ Styles' crotch, and not in a good way either. So much for that PPV!

[dronepool]

What a terrible finish, Sting beat Jeff Hardy with one move....

[The Heenan Family]

see Hardy Fuck over TNA....

[dronepool]

That was terrible.

[MoFo]

Plz elaborate.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

How did he fuck over TNA by losing quickly? Wouldn't it be the other way around? It would seem that TNA fucked over Hardy and Sting by putting that shit on ppv. They both looked like big pieces of shit tonight.

I don't think it could have been any worse unless Jeff Hardy actually layed down after a Finger-Poke of Doom. At least you can call that an angle. This was just a squash where even Sting looked bad.

[MoFo]

Wat happened.

[The Heenan Family]

He was clearly supposed to kick out...they filled with 10 minutes of highlights at the end...Taz kept say Sting has reinvented himself.....Sting was absolutely pissed after the match and Hebner looked stunned....I guarantee this is not the way it was booked.

[DLVH84]

It's all Bulk Baldgan and Eric Jerkoff's silly politicial games, with Dixie Carter down on her knees. I don't blame Sting for being pissed after the match.

[bigslimjj]

******SPOILER ALERT******

Jeff Hardy came out very late into his into music,and seemed as if he could barely walk. He stayed outside of the ring forever off camera until J.B. began his introduction. Bischoff then came out to the ring. Eric went over to Hardy and feined shaking his hand,telling him something. Then he went over to Sting and said something to him. Bischoff then made it a no disqualification match.To which Sting immediately punched him in the face for. The match started and Hardy kept fake throwing his shirt to the crowd for a very long time. Sting looked upset and tried to go over to lock up and Hardy would not drop the shirt. Sting finally locked up with him,kicked him and Scorpion death dropped him for a pin that Hardy tried to kick out of. Hardy looked legit pissed off. Sting got out and they never panned back to Hardy,and ended with a montage of the whole night,for 8 minutes. WTF?

[legendkillerRKO]

this thread is longer than the main event was....smh

[DInsaneOne]

What kind of a finish was that!! this looks like bash at the beach 2000 all over again.

Smart move by TNA though, probably going to get a small increase of viewers this thursday night.

Sting vs Jeff Hardy.....its different, but i guess it could potentially generate some buzz.

[DInsaneOne]

this is bash at the beach 2000 all over again...

guess i am going to have to watch impact to see what happens.

[Lara Emily]

LOL just read the results, looks like WCW 2000 all over again


Whoo TNA certainly used that big Sting thing to do good business eh

[Volare]

This is obviously the genius of one Vince Russo. The king of controversy!!

[Volare]

2 threads for this now......ITS MONTREAL 1997 AGAIN!!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So Cal Val got fat damn wtf? She preggo?

[DInsaneOne]

I wonder if sting will get a memorial belt or perhaps a fruit basket or a cool t-shirt (like kenny in south park)

[Fox]

Good Christ...

TNA is a fucking clown shoe.

[Volare]

So how long untill Russo starts showing up on TV again?

[Volare]

Good Christ...

TNA is a fucking clown shoe.


A clown shoe full of fail.

[Fox]

My thoughts on this matter are two-fold, and neither is good for TNA.

1) TNA knew Jeff Hardy was legit on drugs when he showed up for the PPV and decided to try and have him go on in the main event anyways. When he stumbled out and started acting a fool, Bischoff came out and tried to end the thing quickly so as not to further embarass Hardy and the company, and the whole thing came off as horrible.

OR

2) This is another Bischoff/Russo/Hogan "shoot-work" angle where Hardy didn't want to do the job to Sting, and they're going to try and play it up somehow based on internet speculation, trying to stir interest in TNA Impact after tonight's fucked up sequence of events.


Either way, FUCKING STUPID. If it's #1, they should've scrapped the Hardy/Sting match and had a different main event finish the night to send the people/viewers home happy. If it's #2, which is more likely, then the Bischoff/Russo regime is even more retarded than I ever could have possibly imagined and have not learned AT ALL from their mistakes in WCW.

[erickman]

So Cal Val got fat damn wtf? She preggo?

look like the popes been working

[Vox Populi]

1) TNA knew Jeff Hardy was legit on drugs when he showed up for the PPV and decided to try and have him go on in the main event anyways. When he stumbled out and started acting a fool, Bischoff came out and tried to end the thing quickly so as not to further embarass Hardy and the company, and the whole thing came off as horrible.

OR

2) This is another Bischoff/Russo/Hogan "shoot-work" angle where Hardy didn't want to do the job to Sting, and they're going to try and play it up somehow based on internet speculation, trying to stir interest in TNA Impact after tonight's fucked up sequence of events.


Either way, FUCKING STUPID. If it's #1, they should've scrapped the Hardy/Sting match and had a different main event finish the night to send the people/viewers home happy. If it's #2, which is more likely, then the Bischoff/Russo regime is even more retarded than I ever could have possibly imagined and have not learned AT ALL from their mistakes in WCW.

I lean ever so slightly toward #1, otherwise Jeff Hardy just put in an Academy Award-caliber performance portraying a man who had absolutely no business being in front of a live audience and television cameras, and he's just not that good of an actor.

[Lara Emily]

My thoughts on this matter are two-fold, and neither is good for TNA.

1) TNA knew Jeff Hardy was legit on drugs when he showed up for the PPV and decided to try and have him go on in the main event anyways. When he stumbled out and started acting a fool, Bischoff came out and tried to end the thing quickly so as not to further embarass Hardy and the company, and the whole thing came off as horrible.

OR

2) This is another Bischoff/Russo/Hogan "shoot-work" angle where Hardy didn't want to do the job to Sting, and they're going to try and play it up somehow based on internet speculation, trying to stir interest in TNA Impact after tonight's fucked up sequence of events.


Either way, FUCKING STUPID. If it's #1, they should've scrapped the Hardy/Sting match and had a different main event finish the night to send the people/viewers home happy. If it's #2, which is more likely, then the Bischoff/Russo regime is even more retarded than I ever could have possibly imagined and have not learned AT ALL from their mistakes in WCW.

Not only that but they just did a terrible double count out finish #1 contendership match (to set up a rematch on free tv :wtf:), you also had a bogus finish in the first blood match and then you go out and do that.


LOL TNA is so fucking awful

[bigslimjj]

too much hardy party.

[erickman]

I lean ever so slightly toward #1, otherwise Jeff Hardy just put in an Academy Award-caliber performance portraying a man who had absolutely no business being in front of a live audience and television cameras, and he's just not that good of an actor.

well he is the new scott hall

[Lock Jaw]

Gotta see this Jeff Hardy thing just for "the jokes". TNA just created some "must see" PPV!

:shifty:

[Vox Populi]

well he is the new scott hall

Pretty sure that was my entire point, but thanks for checking in!

[DInsaneOne]

well if he was legit high as a kite, jeff hardy is really making some must see tv moments here..maybe he is drinking the tiger blood

[Fox]

This saddens me because a few days ago I posted that the only match I would've liked to see at VR would've been Sting/Hardy, based on Sting being my favorite guy from WCW (along with DDP) and Jeff being my favorite underdog from WWE who always had a certain enigmatic, entertaining mystique about him.

Thank God I didn't witness this atrocity of a main event. I hope Sting quits and goes to the WWE for a few months to end his career on a high note (WWE "Best of Sting" DVD, HOF induction, a few matches against big WWE stars, etc) and Jeff gets fired and either sent to jail or goes to rehab so he can come back and be the superstar that I know he's capable of being.

GOD. TNA used to be my shining light at the end of the tunnel - a possiblity that MAYBE there could someday be competition for the WWE the way WCW was competition for the WWE. But Dixie Carter simply does not know what the fuck she is doing.

[bigslimjj]

well he is the new scott hallNo...If this is a work then...

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WINNING!!

[YoungFlyFlashy]

Wow...this just got interesting...

[MoFo]

Vince Russo is a dark genius.

I love his work.

[Xero]

I just watched it on YouTube. Jeff looked legit fucked up and confused. Bischoff was definitely telling him something when they shook hands. And Sting was saying "I agree" to "This is bullshit" chants.

This may be a legit shoot. I would not, for a second, be surprised that he was fucked up and they had to change plans on the fly. If that's the truth, and I'm not saying it IS at this point, I will laugh in TNA's face. I've known Hardy would blow up in their face.

If it's a "worked shoot", which I suppose is possible because Hardy's court date is this week, it's fucking stupid and they screwed paying fans out of a main event.

[MoFo]

video

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[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I wish TNA would go out of business. So many talented guys and gals are just wasting their fucking time in that promotion.</font>

[BizarroKing]

If Jeff was under the influence or whatever, then why couldn't they just find some sort of replacement or whatnot? TNA needs to do WAY better than this sort of main event. Otherwise...

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[Jordan]

Sting knew he was too fucked up to work and stiff pinned him its obvious.

[YoungFlyFlashy]

<font color=goldenrod>I wish TNA would go out of business. So many talented guys and gals are just wasting their fucking time in that promotion.</font>

Where would they go? There is not enough room for them in WWE, thats why I still hate that Vince bought ECW and WCW and did nothing with them. I wish he would of kept WCW open and just gave control of it to either Shane or Steph (in real terms, not the bs invasion angle) and they would just compete within the family, thus keeping the business much much bigger.

[YoungFlyFlashy]

So this is Sting's last hoorah huh? Wonder if he wishes he would of gone out in WWE now....

[DLVH84]

I'm not surprised that Sting and the fans got pissed off after the match was over. Hopefully, he gets a better challenger soon, whether it be Mr. Asshole or RVD 4:20.

[YoungFlyFlashy]

How Sting can live through the final embarrassing years of WCW and still continue the embarrassment in TNA is sad. After 1999, has Sting been apart of anything worth mentioning when it comes to successes?

[Evil Vito]

Where would they go? There is not enough room for them in WWE, thats why I still hate that Vince bought ECW and WCW and did nothing with them. I wish he would of kept WCW open and just gave control of it to either Shane or Steph (in real terms, not the bs invasion angle) and they would just compete within the family, thus keeping the business much much bigger.

<font color=goldenrod>There are plenty of TNA guys that WWE would sign if they were able to. And the ones that don't can go to ROH. It would help ROH get another TV deal and if nothing else at least that promotion isn't run be utter fuckwits.</font>

[Juan]

At TNA Victory Road, the main event between Sting and Jeff Hardy for the TNA championship lasted a mere 1 minute and 28 seconds before Sting got the quick pinfall.

According to numerous sources in the TNA locker room, the main event was cut short because of major concern about Jeff Hardy's "state of mind" backstage. Other speculation is that Sting wouldn’t agree to wrestling a long match with Hardy if he was in bad condition.

After the show event, fans in the Impact Zone chanted "Bulls***" while security walked Jeff Hardy to the back. Sting was visibly upset over the awkward finish to the main event.

Jeff Hardy is back in court next Monday 3/21 for his pending drug charges.

(Partial Source: pwinsider.com)

[DLVH84]

How Sting can live through the final embarrassing years of WCW and still continue the embarrassment in TNA is sad. After 1999, has Sting been apart of anything worth mentioning when it comes to successes?

I think a couple words come to mind...honor and loyalty.

Since July 4, 1987, Sting had been with WCW, until the very end on March 26, 2001. He never left the promotion once.

Since June 18, 2003, Sting has been with TNA.

I believe Sting wants to help the younger talent very much, like he tried to do in WCW. I believe it's guys like Hogan, Flair, Bischoff, Russo, and Dixie Carter that's messing things up in TNA.

[bigslimjj]

Abyss will be back this week, and will somehow face Sting at lockdown.

[Londoner]

lol,just read what happened with the main event. thats just hilarious. :lol:

[Calamondin]

<font color=goldenrod>There are plenty of TNA guys that WWE would sign if they were able to. And the ones that don't can go to ROH. It would help ROH get another TV deal and if nothing else at least that promotion isn't run be utter fuckwits.</font>

Holy shit, what a selfish, childish statement. It's not like TNA has a gun to their heads. Has it occurred to you that they're in TNA because they want to be? Maybe they don't want to be left with being ignored by the WWE or wrestling for ROH? Maybe they'd rather be making a living and getting *some* exposure in TNA as opposed to getting squat for wrestling 40 minute matches for 100 people on the internet.

[Tazz Dan]

Holy shit, what a selfish, childish statement. It's not like TNA has a gun to their heads. Has it occurred to you that they're in TNA because they want to be? Maybe they don't want to be left with being ignored by the WWE or wrestling for ROH? Maybe they'd rather be making a living and getting *some* exposure in TNA as opposed to getting squat for wrestling 40 minute matches for 100 people on the internet.

Wouldn't exactly call it childish, he made a valid point. I wonder how many of them that are signed to a TNA contract to get that exposure, would really like to be away from it right now?

[MoFo]

I hope WWE purchase & put TNA out of it's misery like UFC did to Strikeforce.

[Calamondin]

Wouldn't exactly call it childish, he made a valid point. I wonder how many of them that are signed to a TNA contract to get that exposure, would really like to be away from it right now?

I'd say that wishing the company went out of business, so it forced the wrestlers elsewhere (for your own enjoyment) childish. It's not like most of these guys are choosing not to go to WWE (some exceptions like Sting and Angle) it's that they aren't wanted. And if they wanted to be in ROH over TNA, they would. Plus, after all the dumb shit TNA has done, I doubt this is going to change their mind.

[Evil Vito]

Holy shit, what a selfish, childish statement. It's not like TNA has a gun to their heads. Has it occurred to you that they're in TNA because they want to be? Maybe they don't want to be left with being ignored by the WWE or wrestling for ROH? Maybe they'd rather be making a living and getting *some* exposure in TNA as opposed to getting squat for wrestling 40 minute matches for 100 people on the internet.

<font color=goldenrod>Are you Hardy's dealer or something? With the exception of the big names, TNA's wages are basically equivalent to working anywhere not named WWE. The only possible perk is getting on TV which is meaning less and less each week as the vast majority of their TV time now is spent on retarded storylines that have no tangible direction. There are consistently reports coming about about talent requesting their release and more often than not TNA won't grant it.

It's a sinking ship and it has been for quite some time. Such is life when the people running your company have no idea what they're doing and have no problem screwing over their fans.</font>

[Lock Jaw]

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[Evil Vito]

I'd say that wishing the company went out of business, so it forced the wrestlers elsewhere (for your own enjoyment) childish. It's not like most of these guys are choosing not to go to WWE (some exceptions like Sting and Angle) it's that they aren't wanted. And if they wanted to be in ROH over TNA, they would. Plus, after all the dumb shit TNA has done, I doubt this is going to change their mind.

<font color=goldenrod>LOL what a self-righteous fuckwit. Again, TNA's wages are comparable to ROH for the non-main eventers and much like all of those places, they have to pay for the own lodging, transportation, etc. If Spike cancelled their TV deal tomorrow they'd be just like any other indy promotion except with worse booking.

The vast majority of their roster is talented and would have no trouble whatsoever finding work.</font>

[Jordan]

LOL I used to feel like Vince hired Russo to destroy WCW, now I feel like he's doing it to TNA as well.

[MoFo]

stevenamoney: @TNADixie Sting's old, Jeff's high, Russo's incompetent. Pick your excuse, it doesn't matter, none of them are good. Change something.

xanderharris: @TNADixie You need to fire Jeff Hardy. He is an embarrassment to the wrestling business. You going to refund the fans who paid for that?

quarterz187: @TNADixie This is the last time I get a tna ppv I have no more faith or respect for your product how could you screw your fans bad ending
TestSubjekt: @TNADixie Awful, awful PPV tonight. For the love of God fire Russo. He's not helping TNA. You blew your chance at getting better with Heyman

parksXcore: @TNADixie I want wrestling and not double countouts and 90 second matchs, I've got 2 words for ya TNA cancelled. Bring ROH to spike

jedlucid: @TNADixie I guess matt morgan was busy. You let homicide walk and you pushed hardy. Hardy makes how much more money for the same ratings?

TheSteelCagenet: @TNADixie I'm done with TNA. No more money for you. No more watching Impact. Disgusted I paid $40 for that shit on a plate

DressageAnner: If I had gone to the ppv and seen that main event I'd be chanting bullshit too...come on they screwed the fans over real bad @tnadixie

MachoBeard: @tnadixie all criticism of the product aside, you are ENABLING the self destructive behavior of a HUMAN BEING

Collins Kingdom: @tnadixie This is just horrible...i streamed the ppv and still feel like i wasted my time...WORST PPV in HISTORY of PRO WRESTLING....seriously.

michaeltodaro: @TNADixie @EBischoff LOL what a terrible show. A double countout AND a 45 second main event? Are you TRYING to go out of business?

EdgeUniversity: I just paid money for a PPV with a 2 minute main event,a 6 minute recap of the whole show,n 17 minute early end. Refund please @TNADixie

Relentless_J: Anyone who paid for that PPV tonight... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you got robbed!!! #TNA @TNADixie just destroyed whatever was left of TNA

charshed: @TNADixie stupid lame finishes with a BS 1 Minute main event? Wow, you guys are so awesome. Get real. TNA SUCKS

benturpen: Hey @TNADixie... I streamed your PPV tonight and still feel ripped off. Funny how it comes full circle, but...f*** you, bitch.

themattgalloway: That was, bar none, the worst TNA PPV in history. @TNADixie owes the 4 people who bought it refunds. Has there ever been a worse ending to a PPV? At least the "Fingerpoke of Doom" was on free TV. Can we set up an emergency relief fund for the people who bought #TNA "Victory Road"?

kikrusher99: MAybe @TNADixie know that that match would suck and pulled the plug early. Still very stupid ending to a shit ppv. Gen Me was the best part

FatManAfterDark: I can't wait for @TNADixie to explain this one to the unwashed TNA masses.


lol

[Tazz Dan]

LOL what a self-righteous fuckwit. Again, TNA's wages are comparable to ROH for the non-main eventers and much like all of those places, they have to pay for the own lodging, transportation, etc. If Spike cancelled their TV deal tomorrow they'd be just like any other indy promotion except with worse booking.

The vast majority of their roster is talented and would have no trouble whatsoever finding work.

Game. Set. Match - Big Vito 22

[Calamondin]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL what a self-righteous fuckwit. Again, TNA's wages are comparable to ROH for the non-main eventers and much like all of those places, they have to pay for the own lodging, transportation, etc. If Spike cancelled their TV deal tomorrow they'd be just like any other indy promotion except with worse booking.

The vast majority of their roster is talented and would have no trouble whatsoever finding work.</font>

I'm a self-righteous fuckwit because I think you overeacted to a stupid booking decision? Well, ok?

TNA has been badly booked for the 5 years I've been watching on and off. It has been, at times, completely, unbelievably stupid. Samoa Joe was completely misused and involved in some stupid shit the last year, yet he re-signed just a couple of months ago. But no, clearly.. TNA should go out of business so Joe can finally be free to go work in ROH again, you fucking toddler.

[Evil Vito]

I'm a self-righteous fuckwit because I think you overeacted to a stupid booking decision? Well, ok?

TNA has been badly booked for the 5 years I've been watching on and off. It has been, at times, completely, unbelievably stupid. Samoa Joe was completely misused and involved in some stupid shit the last year, yet he re-signed just a couple of months ago. But no, clearly.. TNA should go out of business so Joe can finally be free to go work in ROH again, you fucking toddler.

<font color=goldenrod>No - you're a self-righteous fuckwit for assuming that I wanted to see everybody out of work. Which they wouldn't be even if TNA went under.

I do believe we need to hear Tazz Dan's verdict again...</font>

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[Razzamajazz]

this is more entertaining than than the ppv was

[chrisat928]

TNA fucking sucks, and should die, especially after this Hardy bullshit. This is the second time, this year, that Hardy was impaired for a main event match.

At the very least, Hardy should be fired, and forced into rehab, again.

[Rollermacka]

Well, it looks like Hogans on the way out according to the main page. Hopefully things can even out and Jeff has blown his last chance at main eventing (and will be released)


Side note, to be fair TNA PPVs have ended worse
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... and that was planned :nono:

[James Steele]

Wow, I hope that wasn't a worked shoot. Anyway if all this was due to Hardy being fucked up, I hope this will somehow force Jeff Hardy to try and get clean but it is apparent at this point that Hardy will only get clean through force (stuck in a jail cell).

[Fignuts]

I don't believe even TNA is stupid enough to do something like that on purpose. Hardy is a piece of shit, and honest to god, I was waiting for this to happen. In my mind it was inevitable.

TNA is however stupid enough to just send the fans home with nothing, and not even add a last minute replacement.

[Vox Populi]

Well, it looks like Hogans on the way out according to the main page.

SOURCE: The Honky Tonk Man.

Might want to find yourself several grains of salt to take that "news" with.

[James Steele]

I don't believe even TNA is stupid enough to do something like that on purpose. Hardy is a piece of shit, and honest to god, I was waiting for this to happen. In my mind it was inevitable.

TNA is however stupid enough to just send the fans home with nothing, and not even add a last minute replacement.

Yeah, have Anderson attack Hardy in a rage or something so Hogan/Bischoff replace him with Jeff Jarrett or somebody else from Immortal. Proceed with something.

Also, somebody mentioned this was his 2nd time being in a "questionable state of mind to perform". What was the other time?

[Vox Populi]

1/4

[James Steele]

1/4

He was fucked up for the TokyoDome show? Wow...never heard that before.

[Fignuts]

He's fucking trash.

Hope this is the last match of his career.

[Emperor Smeat]

Forgot that TNA had a ppv Sunday and just saw the main event clip posted earlier.

Kind of sad that the Bischoff-Sting encounter lasted almost as long as the main event match itself.

I doubt Dixie Carter is going to do anything for changes unless Panda Energy or Spike get involved to fix that mess. One report had her speaking to everyone in the lockeroom after the show and everyone was furious afterwards not believing anything will change.

[Vox Populi]

He was fucked up for the TokyoDome show? Wow...never heard that before.

That's the date that's picking up steam on the good old internet, so take that for whatever it's worth.

[St. Jimmy]

Call me morbid, but I'm calling it: Jeff Hardy Deathwatch begins now.

[Tazz Dan]

I said the same thing to a mate a few hours ago.

[Tazz Dan]

Have this feeling he'll kill himself before he goes to trial :-\

[Mr. Nerfect]

This is so fucking pathetic. That TNA couldn't work around Jeff Hardy being a fucking mess is ridiculous. They could have just fired the cunt and had Anderson vs. RVD lead into a main event title shot that night. Or given Samoa Joe, Kurt Angle or D'Angelo Dinero or put AJ Styles and Matt Hardy in the main event slot with Sting added.

Fuck TNA. They have no clue what the fuck they are doing. Part of me wouldn't be surprised if someone like Eric Bischoff or Vince Russo thought that having Jeff go out there fucked up would have gotten them "Charlie Sheen" like attention. Fuck them. TNA needs to change. They are even starting to piss off the fucking mutants who think their shit is good.

I feel like TNA actually have to apologise to me, and I didn't even watch the fucking show.

[CSL]

Have any of you even watched the video of it? Do you honestly think that even TNA would let an apparently impaired wrestler go out in front of a live crowd on PPV for a main event, no matter what the planned outcome is? Especially with somebody with the status and a history of speaking up like Sting? I'd be very surprised given the storyline surrounding the title lately if this anything other than 'The Network' making sure Hardy doesn't get the belt given his current legal status, all of their 'decisions' have been 'acted on' by Bischoff. Not to mention Sting talking on Impact about how much he respects Hardy and hinting that Hardy will 'see the light' at some point. I do enjoy how quick people are to jump on Hardy however, especially given TNA and Russo's history of questionable booking. But why does that not surprise me.

[CSL]

Although I will say that if Hardy was anything close to being 'impaired' and they still sent him out for that finish to a PPV, they deserve every bit of the shit storm that comes their way. Fuck, TNA deserve some stick from those that actually paid for it for having that as the main event anyway. But the whole thing screams work, Bischoff's music playing for his entrance after Sting and Hardy had made their entrances, Bischoff being laid out by Sting, all of the references to the storyline, the fact Hardy was on the PPV in the first place and so on. If Hardy was out of his tree, fair enough, they need to get him off TV and get him clean or let him go. But nobody will know until they either release some kind of news or until they tape TV and I'm guessing it'll be the latter. And you'll probably watch or read the results somehow to find out.

[St. Jimmy]

TNA does need to apologize. This is actually a big deal.

They endangered Sting, Bischoff and the Ref by letting them go out there with Hardy. Had Sting not been the skeptic he is, telling everyone he won't work a match if Hardy is fucked up, things could be much worse.

Jeff disrespected the business, the boys in the locker room, and all of the fans by going out the way he did.

TNA disrespected Sting by not arranging something to fix the situation. You have a shit ton of Road Agents and Producers and NONE OF THEM had the balls to pull hardy and call an audible? That's bullshit. Spike TV is going to be pissed tomorrow, and it's going to be Dixie and TNA exes left holding the bag.

TNA owes Sting and all of it's fans an apology. Hardy has to be suspended/fired, and they need to publicly acknowledge that Jeff made a huge mistake and also take accountability for letting him enter that ring.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Lol, horrible work. Just had to watch it to actually believe the outrage.

Even if Hardy was legit smashed, they probably told him to. Fucking awful.

[St. Jimmy]

Have any of you even watched the video of it? Do you honestly think that even TNA would let an apparently impaired wrestler go out in front of a live crowd on PPV for a main event, no matter what the planned outcome is? Especially with somebody with the status and a history of speaking up like Sting? I'd be very surprised given the storyline surrounding the title lately if this anything other than 'The Network' making sure Hardy doesn't get the belt given his current legal status, all of their 'decisions' have been 'acted on' by Bischoff. Not to mention Sting talking on Impact about how much he respects Hardy and hinting that Hardy will 'see the light' at some point. I do enjoy how quick people are to jump on Hardy however, especially given TNA and Russo's history of questionable booking. But why does that not surprise me.

There's no way that was a Work. It's actually worse if it's a work, it's disgusting and disrespectful.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Have any of you even watched the video of it? Do you honestly think that even TNA would let an apparently impaired wrestler go out in front of a live crowd on PPV for a main event, no matter what the planned outcome is? Especially with somebody with the status and a history of speaking up like Sting? I'd be very surprised given the storyline surrounding the title lately if this anything other than 'The Network' making sure Hardy doesn't get the belt given his current legal status, all of their 'decisions' have been 'acted on' by Bischoff. Not to mention Sting talking on Impact about how much he respects Hardy and hinting that Hardy will 'see the light' at some point. I do enjoy how quick people are to jump on Hardy however, especially given TNA and Russo's history of questionable booking. But why does that not surprise me.

Do I think TNA would do it? Absolutely. They've let Hardy work "tired" before, too. As for the rest of it, I have no idea what you are talking about. What's the story in TNA? That he's meant to be wasted and look like he's in no shape to perform? I legitimately don't know what you mean.

[CSL]

JEFFHARDYBRAND Jeff Hardy

Things are op

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Mispelled tweet from a drugged up wrestler? Or some cryptic response from the eccentric, 'weird' wrestler who's twitter is being blown up by 'experts' telling him what happened?

from the Latin word opus meaning "work"

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Do I think TNA would do it? Absolutely. They've let Hardy work "tired" before, too. As for the rest of it, I have no idea what you are talking about. What's the story in TNA? That he's meant to be wasted and look like he's in no shape to perform? I legitimately don't know what you mean.

With all the publicity Charlie Sheen is getting and Jeff's impending court case, I could easily see Russo and Bischoff looking at each other with dollar signs in their eyes, thinking that this controversy is a great idea.

We're talking about it, that's what they want. But work or not, I will never even download TNA again unless it's their farewell show so I can give them the middle finger as people in the ring cry.

[CSL]

There's no way that was a Work. It's actually worse if it's a work, it's disgusting and disrespectful.

Why not? Because you've already made up your mind given the 'overwhelming evidence'?

Do I think TNA would do it? Absolutely. They've let Hardy work "tired" before, too. As for the rest of it, I have no idea what you are talking about. What's the story in TNA? That he's meant to be wasted and look like he's in no shape to perform? I legitimately don't know what you mean.

What, every wrestler ever works tired at times. That's 'life on the road'. And the only time I've seen anything written anywhere like that was the last time the internet decided Hardy was wasted and working, which, shockingly, turned out to be bollocks. And the current storyline over the last 3-4 weeks regarding the title situation has been 'The Network' aka Spike making the main events due to what's good for TV/'the Network', including making Hardy defend the title in consecutive weeks and not telling him who his opponent was when he lost it.

[CSL]

With all the publicity Charlie Sheen is getting and Jeff's impending court case, I could easily see Russo and Bischoff looking at each other with dollar signs in their eyes, thinking that this controversy is a great idea.

This also.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, guys always work tired, but Jeff was so tired that he appeared wasted to guys in the back. Regardless of Jeff being wasted or not, people at least thought it and it got leaked. You don't hear that shit going on in regards to anyone else. And yeah, Jeff Hardy's reputation allowed it to gain steam -- but what does that tell you? It's like when Dixie Carter's response to "Fire Russo" chants was "Well, Vince didn't even write it." Wasted or not, there was a problem there.

If you look at my original post, I mention the "Charlie Sheen" effect, and I don't disagree that it's a possibility. But either way, it's fucking terrible. If Jeff was not in a state to wrestle, he shouldn't have wrestled. And if this is a storyline, how the fuck is it good? Jeff got beaten in a minute by a 51 year old man because the storyline is that he's too fucked up? He's their former World Champion. It's retarded.

If that's the storyline in TNA, then that's also fucked up. Jeff Hardy is meant to be their huge heel isn't he? Yet he's a victim of the networks and being put in situations that make him sympathetic? I'm all for three-dimensional stories, and I like shades of grey to my characters -- but that's just working against yourself.

It being a storyline ultimately doesn't change why people are pissed off. They got short-changed out of a main event because the main eventer delivering didn't do so. People backstage and their own mutant audience were allegedly all pissed off. Great work, TNA. Brilliant.

[Volare]

Now only if this happened in Fayetteville. Carolina fans would've went nuts lol.

[Testicle]

WCW 2.0

[CSL]

Yeah, guys always work tired, but Jeff was so tired that he appeared wasted to guys in the back. Regardless of Jeff being wasted or not, people at least thought it and it got leaked. You don't hear that shit going on in regards to anyone else. And yeah, Jeff Hardy's reputation allowed it to gain steam -- but what does that tell you? It's like when Dixie Carter's response to "Fire Russo" chants was "Well, Vince didn't even write it." Wasted or not, there was a problem there.

If you look at my original post, I mention the "Charlie Sheen" effect, and I don't disagree that it's a possibility. But either way, it's fucking terrible. If Jeff was not in a state to wrestle, he shouldn't have wrestled. And if this is a storyline, how the fuck is it good? Jeff got beaten in a minute by a 51 year old man because the storyline is that he's too fucked up? He's their former World Champion. It's retarded.

If that's the storyline in TNA, then that's also fucked up. Jeff Hardy is meant to be their huge heel isn't he? Yet he's a victim of the networks and being put in situations that make him sympathetic? I'm all for three-dimensional stories, and I like shades of grey to my characters -- but that's just working against yourself.

It being a storyline ultimately doesn't change why people are pissed off. They got short-changed out of a main event because the main eventer delivering didn't do so. People backstage and their own mutant audience were allegedly all pissed off. Great work, TNA. Brilliant.

But you're once again basing that first paragraph on what you've read on the internet, claims that is was 'leaked' when in reality one conveniently "unnamed source" claimed he looked tired and it spread like wildfire in a Chinese Whispers forest. That's how all of this shit works, one person reads something, tells his spastic friend who tells his mutie pal on Youtube and before you know it it's everywhere. Then well respected in depth knowledge machines featuring a some fat bald fucker sitting in front of his DVD collection writing and making 'news videos' for NoDQ.com report it as fact. Which leads to plenty of other 'people' diving in head-first and lapping up every drop of what is written. Hasn't Rey Mysterio officially been retiring for the last 5 years? Isn't Randy Orton some kind of anti-christ because he doesn't enjoy being around these idiots? Not to mention Triple H still holding down 98% of the wrestlers on the Earth.

As for the rest of your post, yeah, this is pretty short-sighted on TNA's behalf. You can't shit on your fans with the main event of something they've paid their money specifically to see an outcome. But I haven't disputed this. In fact, quite the opposite if you read my posts. My guess would be the whole thing is to turn Hardy face, have him rebel against 'the system'/'the man' yadda yadda yadda. Which could also be short-sighted because they probably should have realized that a lot of wrestling fans are dribbling spastics who were going to immediately assume with their expert knowledge that the whole thing was down to Hardy. I doubt anybody outside of TNA will really know what is going on until Impact is taped which I'm guessing is over the next few days.

[VSG]

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Watch Jeff's entrance and tell me he isn't fucked up.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

If this is a work then this is worse than the shit WWE tried to do with Hardy and the mystery attacker at Survivor Series that one year. Like come on, man. And we know TNA watches WWE programming so they knew how bad that was received.

[CSL]

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Watch Jeff's entrance and tell me he isn't fucked up.

I've watched his entrance. As well most of his others since he turned heel in TNA.

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How is the most recent one any more 'fucked up' than the others? I'm seeing 'Jeff comes out acting like a weirdo. Sometimes he acts weirder than other times' as a constant through all of his entrances. Do you even watch TNA/have anything to compare that entrance to other than what I've just posted?

[Mr. Nerfect]

At best case scenario, this is just really horrible car-crash booking. At best.

[StevieA79]

It's a work they are clearly using the whole Charlie Sheen affair and mirroring the angle with the enigma Jeff Hardy. It looks like a way for them to have Sting and Jeffs feud develop, Sting may try and change Hardys character or something along those lines I am really not sure at this point.

I have watched the footage several times now and I still believe this is a work, not the cleanest or tidiest of works not by a long shot infact the angle comes off as being disrespectful to the fans who paid money to see the event hence so many leaving in their droves after the show went off the air. At least when WCW pulled this kind of shit it was usually on TV and not pay per view.

This kind of main event is exactly the reason TNA will never be respected in the way that ROH or WWE is they simply have no idea about how to book angles and most of the angles come off as train wrecks to me. Maybe I am just used to getting my moneys worth with pay per views I am really not sure but I cringe when I watch TNA and it's angles like this that underline what kind of promotion TNA is.

They need Heyman badly.

As for Jeff wtf man I have seen you pull some crazy shit but dude.. what? :lol:

What the hell would posess Sting to finish his career in a promotion that has the roster of WWE Superstars or Heat from back in the day?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I think this just about sums it about:</font>

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[Xero]

From PWInsider:

To follow up what Mike Johnson posted in the Elite section last night, numerous TNA sources have told me that Jeff Hardy was in no condition to wrestle in his match against Sting on last night's show, and that is why the main event went less than 90 seconds.

Sting, as usual, was a complete professional and had nothing to do with why the match was so short.

In talking to people within TNA, they are angry and upset that Hardy was even sent out to the ring at all when it was clear to anyone who saw him that he should not have been. Given that the card was only announced a few days before the show, everyone I spoke with about this felt that the prudent move would have been to reshuffle the card and not embarrass the company but putting on the main event that they did. The feeling is that it makes the company look bad and it's situation that is representative of greater problems that plague the company.

To say that people in TNA are very frustrated right now would be more than fair.

[Xero]

How is the most recent one any more 'fucked up' than the others? I'm seeing 'Jeff comes out acting like a weirdo. Sometimes he acts weirder than other times' as a constant through all of his entrances. Do you even watch TNA/have anything to compare that entrance to other than what I've just posted?

He was fucking stumbling on his way to the ring, swerving down the ramp, and almost tripped getting in. He doesn't do that in any of those videos you posted. He didn't look "cocky heel douchebag" he looked "fucked up". His whole demeanor came off that way in general. He looked almost out of it legitimately.

Maybe they were playing that up, maybe they weren't, but it was NOT a "normal" Hardy entrance.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

He was fucking stumbling on his way to the ring, swerving down the ramp, and almost tripped getting in. He doesn't do that in any of those videos you posted. He didn't look "cocky heel douchebag" he looked "fucked up". His whole demeanor came off that way in general. He looked almost out of it legitimately.

Maybe they were playing that up, maybe they weren't, but it was NOT a "normal" Hardy entrance.

It's in fact so exaggerated that makes me believe it's a work.

Don't give a shit either way to be honest. There is no excuse for that angle OR sending him out if he was legit "fucked up". Just the dumbest move I've ever seen TNA or any company, wrestling or not, do.

[Xero]

Yeah, I agree. There's no excuse either way. But I'd have a much bigger problem with it if he's actually fucked up. If it's booking, it's just another stupid TNA move that doesn't surprise me. If it's that he was just bombed out of his mind, that's a whole other level of fucked up and shows complete disregard towards their wrestlers.

I'm just wondering, IF it comes out he was on drugs or whatever, and does get fired for it, would that affect his sentencing? I'd think it would take it from no jail time to a bit at least, because he shows that he just doesn't give a fuck.

And again, I'm not saying this IS or ISN'T the case, but I'm assuming it is in that scenario.

[Lara Emily]

But you're once again basing that first paragraph on what you've read on the internet, claims that is was 'leaked' when in reality one conveniently "unnamed source" claimed he looked tired and it spread like wildfire in a Chinese Whispers forest. That's how all of this shit works, one person reads something, tells his spastic friend who tells his mutie pal on Youtube and before you know it it's everywhere. Then well respected in depth knowledge machines featuring a some fat bald fucker sitting in front of his DVD collection writing and making 'news videos' for NoDQ.com report it as fact. Which leads to plenty of other 'people' diving in head-first and lapping up every drop of what is written. Hasn't Rey Mysterio officially been retiring for the last 5 years? Isn't Randy Orton some kind of anti-christ because he doesn't enjoy being around these idiots? Not to mention Triple H still holding down 98% of the wrestlers on the Earth.

As for the rest of your post, yeah, this is pretty short-sighted on TNA's behalf. You can't shit on your fans with the main event of something they've paid their money specifically to see an outcome. But I haven't disputed this. In fact, quite the opposite if you read my posts. My guess would be the whole thing is to turn Hardy face, have him rebel against 'the system'/'the man' yadda yadda yadda. Which could also be short-sighted because they probably should have realized that a lot of wrestling fans are dribbling spastics who were going to immediately assume with their expert knowledge that the whole thing was down to Hardy. I doubt anybody outside of TNA will really know what is going on until Impact is taped which I'm guessing is over the next few days.


Dude most of the info on Hardy came from Wrestling Observer, it's generally a pretty good reliable news source, you know since Meltzer's been around forever. Not all wrestling news reporters are stupid fanboys like you seem to think, there are such things as legit wrestling reporters

Your superiority complex is hilarious tho, really love your constant diatribes on the IWC

3 possibilities on this:

1)The entire thing is a total shoot: Hardy dead weighted him to get the match over with because Hardy is so fucked right now that Sting didn't trust him to wrestle a safe match. Probably the least likely scenario

2) The finish was preplanned and the match was cut to 60 seconds because Hardy is fucked and no one believed he could actually wrestle. This what The Observer is reporting (again a pretty reliable site)

3) Total work part of some really bad storyline that's gonna suck


Could be any of those 3

[Xero]

CSL doesn't believe in any news source. And it's true that you need to take ALL of them with some skepticism. But there are reporters out there with legitimate sources in the business and there is news that comes from MULTIPLE sources within the company to support the Hardy was fucked up claim.

However, with that said, it COULD be a case with TNA working their own wrestlers or the wrestlers working the sheets. That's not out of the ordinary. But I don't think it's fair to write something off just because you read it online. There are reliable sources out there, Observer and PWInsider being two of them IMO.

[Innovator]

However, with that said, it COULD be a case with TNA working their own wrestlers or the wrestlers working the sheets. That's not out of the ordinary. But I don't think it's fair to write something off just because you read it online. There are reliable sources out there, Observer and PWInsider being two of them IMO.

Then they'd REALLY be WCW lite.

[bigslimjj]

Well they just started talkng about the "Network" giving them problems.Matt and Jeff are both experienced in crazy video blogs and internet fan interactions. This could be going in a "BI-WINNING" direction. If this wasn't a work then the Hot Topic belt needs to go into the trash this thursday. If it was a work it could be akin to Hawk falling off the tron,or Scott Hall puking on Bischoff in WCW. The point is that it's been done before. We've all seen how much attentiion a falling star can get from Mr. Sheen. A million twitter followers in one day gets people noticing,so this could all be fake. If so there isn't a better candidate for the role. Matt Hardy looked high in his promo before the match with A.J.,but then had the match of the night. So who knows really. If Hardy comes out with two hot blonde girlfriends then we all know whats up.

[Lara Emily]

CSL doesn't believe in any news source. And it's true that you need to take ALL of them with some skepticism. But there are reporters out there with legitimate sources in the business and there is news that comes from MULTIPLE sources within the company to support the Hardy was fucked up claim.

However, with that said, it COULD be a case with TNA working their own wrestlers or the wrestlers working the sheets. That's not out of the ordinary. But I don't think it's fair to write something off just because you read it online. There are reliable sources out there, Observer and PWInsider being two of them IMO.

Now that wouldn't surprise me, TNA bookers working their own locker room and the press because they think it'll create some buzz, Bischoff, Russo and their ilk are exactly the type of people who would think that a story about Hardy being too fucked on drugs to wrestle would totally be the edgy cool story that will attract fans.

I want WCW 1996-1998 not WCW 1999-2001

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah, I agree. There's no excuse either way. But I'd have a much bigger problem with it if he's actually fucked up. If it's booking, it's just another stupid TNA move that doesn't surprise me. If it's that he was just bombed out of his mind, that's a whole other level of fucked up and shows complete disregard towards their wrestlers.

I'm just wondering, IF it comes out he was on drugs or whatever, and does get fired for it, would that affect his sentencing? I'd think it would take it from no jail time to a bit at least, because he shows that he just doesn't give a fuck.

And again, I'm not saying this IS or ISN'T the case, but I'm assuming it is in that scenario.

It definitely could. The biggest thing in keeping people out of jail are jobs. If he doesn't have a job, then there's no real reason for him not to go to jail.

[erickman]

I'm just wondering, IF it comes out he was on drugs or whatever, and does get fired for it, would that affect his sentencing? I'd think it would take it from no jail time to a bit at least, because he shows that he just doesn't give a fuck.

And again, I'm not saying this IS or ISN'T the case, but I'm assuming it is in that scenario.

yeah and that is sad too see the guy is now jake the snake. last night was his last chance at big wrestling. hardy was suposed to do most of the work in the sting match. sting does not have much left in him they should have let rvd or maby anderson do the match.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

They wouldn't even have to show that he doesn't give a fuck. If he doesn't have a job, then nothing is inconvenienced by locking him up.

[Lara Emily]

There's also actually a 4th option


He was too fucked to wrestle but now they're gonna turn that into a story, which would explain all the stupid shit that happened during and after the pinfall (Ie Hardy clearly trying to kick out, yelling at the ref, and Sting saying he agrees with the fans that it was bullshit)

This is the most disturbing possibility as it could basically be TNA trying to profit off Jeff Hardy's real drug problem, and an encouraging/rewarding him

This is an extension of my 2nd possibility but this 4th one assumes TNA wants to move forward with Hardy and is using this match as a starting point for a story whereas option 2 assumes the finish was just planned to get it over with so they could move on period.

[CSL]

Your superiority complex is hilarious tho, really love your constant diatribes on the IWC

lol please you might be the most ridiculous poster on this entire site (not just the wrestling forum) because I'm pretty sure you actually believe half of the stuff you come out with and yet I'm the one with the superiority complex? The sad part is that you're capable of having a discussion and not taking any of it personally and you clearly have some kind of passion for wrestling but you're such a ridiculous person that it kind of makes those points moot and makes any variety of discussion with you borderline excruciating.

[CSL]

CSL doesn't believe in any news source. And it's true that you need to take ALL of them with some skepticism. But there are reporters out there with legitimate sources in the business and there is news that comes from MULTIPLE sources within the company to support the Hardy was fucked up claim.

It's not that I don't believe in any news source, it's more there is so much shit floating around on such a regular basis with such a rabid bunch of idiots waiting to devour all of it that I pretty much don't believe anything until it either becomes quite glaringly obvious that whatever is being said is the case or if I've heard it face to face/by phone/communicated from somebody that would actually know/actually has an 'in'/a good friend in a 'nice spot'. There are too many idiots willing to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 17, too many guys actually in the business willing to talk shit to the dirtsheets simply to fuck with them/laugh at them/straight up work them and too many past cases of 'news'/reports etc being total fiction/completely and utterly missing the mark/grossly misunderstood etc etc to believe otherwise. For the most part, these things are nothing but the National Enquirers of the wrestling world. Only there's a million of them.

[Vox Populi]

Even TNA isn't insane enough to involve a currently-in-the-midst-of-a-felony-drug-trial main eventer in a work where he pretends to be inebriated, and again, Jeff Hardy just isn't that good of an actor - almost if not every telltale sign of intoxication was at play last night. Plus, a work of that nature would be admissible in his trial toward the fact that he's shown no remorse for his actions, was actually trying to profit from them, et cetera.

[Jordan]

I think they didn't have a clear plan and that during the angle Bisch and Sting were trying to figure out what to do. Sting stiffed him and pinned him early to prevent an accident from happening.

[Lara Emily]

lol please you might be the most ridiculous poster on this entire site (not just the wrestling forum) because I'm pretty sure you actually believe half of the stuff you come out with and yet I'm the one with the superiority complex? The sad part is that you're capable of having a discussion and not taking any of it personally and you clearly have some kind of passion for wrestling but you're such a ridiculous person that it kind of makes those points moot and makes any variety of discussion with you borderline excruciating.


Well of course I believe what I say, that's why I say it :p,and I don't think I'm better than anyone, you on the other hand love to imply that you're better then the IWC because you don't believe anything that comes from the news sites (even the legit ones, Meltzer and Alvarez are pretty legit too), seriously look at that Hogan thread, look here, always stereotyping the IWC as dumb fanboys/fangirls, always implying how stupid people are to believe any of the news.

You come off as always thinking you're such a better fan because you don't pay attention to that stuff.

[VSG]

Nice bickering, kids.

[erickman]

I think they didn't have a clear plan and that during the angle Bisch and Sting were trying to figure out what to do. Sting stiffed him and pinned him early to prevent an accident from happening.

thats kind of what it looked like to me too, i would'nt be suprised if they did'nt till like 15 mins before the match that hardy was fucked up and had to work it on the fly.

[ron the dial]

it's amazing how the reactions to the news are far more engaging than the news itself.

[bigslimjj]

I just downloaded the hd version and watched it again.I retract my earlier statement. This was no work. I know a lot of drug users,and he was totally stoned out of his mind. Hardy got into an unwarranted scuffle with fans at ringside right before tripping on the ring steps. He also messed up singing along with his theme music when he came out. You know,the theme music He WROTE AND SANG HIMSELF!!! HBK did a lot of drugs,but I never saw him so fucked up he couldn't sing along to "Sexy boy" while walking to the ring. The t-shirt spot was akward and then at the end, he wasn't even able drop it to the mat properly. He couldn't even lock up with Sting. I can do a lockup drunk. My little sister knows how wrestlers lock up to start a match for god sakes. If they don't trash the Hot Topic belt asap I'm gonna start watching The Mentalist on thursday nights.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's alright, we'll forget all about this after the next impact.

Just heard that they're debuting a Japanese wrestler called Tsunnami.

CONTROVERSY CREATES CASH.

[Jeritron]

Jeff definitely almost falls several times on his way to the ring. I don't really feel strongly about it either way.
Work or shoot, it's awful.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It's alright, we'll forget all about this after the next impact.

Just heard that they're debuting a Japanese wrestler call Tsunnami.

CONTROVERSY CREATES CASH.


If he comes with his own personal ring announcer who introduces him in Japanese, I'll watch.

[Vox Populi]

It's alright, we'll forget all about this after the next impact.

This is the most indisputable point I've seen made about the situation yet.

[VSG]

The Japanese announcer needs to be named Meltdownuuuuu.

[Jeritron]

At least this is taking the heat off of how awful that title belt looks

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Also is it just me, or is Mike Tenay the worst announcer ever? I dunno man, he knows a ton about certain things, but he is so unpleasant to listen to.

[loopydate]

It's not that I don't believe in any news source, it's more there is so much shit floating around on such a regular basis with such a rabid bunch of idiots waiting to devour all of it that I pretty much don't believe anything until it either becomes quite glaringly obvious that whatever is being said is the case or if I've heard it face to face/by phone/communicated from somebody that would actually know/actually has an 'in'/a good friend in a 'nice spot'. There are too many idiots willing to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 17, too many guys actually in the business willing to talk shit to the dirtsheets simply to fuck with them/laugh at them/straight up work them and too many past cases of 'news'/reports etc being total fiction/completely and utterly missing the mark/grossly misunderstood etc etc to believe otherwise. For the most part, these things are nothing but the National Enquirers of the wrestling world. Only there's a million of them.

And yet, you were the one calling me an idiot for not believing that Sting was coming on 2-21-11.

[ron the dial]

that's not why.

[VSG]

Also is it just me, or is Mike Tenay the worst announcer ever? I dunno man, he knows a ton about certain things, but he is so unpleasant to listen to.

When Taz is the voice of reason in TNA, you wonder what Mike Tenay is actually doing there.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He's just so awkward when he talks. Like he spazzes out about certain things, yet just unemotionally reports what he's seeing in the ring for other things.

[Jeritron]

He's a horrible announcer. People think he's better than someone like Cole because he's a fanboy and it isn't just a broadcasting job to him, but yea.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Tenay was always shit, actually prefferd Schiavone to him.

There must be better out there, surely.

[VSG]

Borash is the epitome of fanboy, you don't need another one. I bet Foley/Taz or even Borash/Taz will be much better.

[ron the dial]

i caught the show last night from the matt hardy/aj styles match to the end. it was the first tna i've watched in years. it was bad. everything i saw and heard. a lot of what i said to my friend last night has been repeated in here. overall, though, what does it matter?

i think some people are overreacting to the hardy situation. this is what tna does, and to be surprised and try to act like tna has a moral high ground that they can stand on is ridiculous. they created this environment that jeff hardy exists and thrives in, and they have to deal with the consequences. unless all of this is a work, of course, in which case good work.

[CSL]

Well of course I believe what I say, that's why I say it :p,and I don't think I'm better than anyone, you on the other hand love to imply that you're better then the IWC because you don't believe anything that comes from the news sites (even the legit ones, Meltzer and Alvarez are pretty legit too), seriously look at that Hogan thread, look here, always stereotyping the IWC as dumb fanboys/fangirls, always implying how stupid people are to believe any of the news.

You come off as always thinking you're such a better fan because you don't pay attention to that stuff.

I'll happily imply somebody is stupid if their argument is based on something they read on a news and rumours wrestling site. Because that is a stupid thing to do. I could not care less if people simply want to read, talk about, listen to any of it. And please, read what I wrote in response to Xero. It has nothing to do with 'thinking I'm better'. It's common sense.

And please don't reply, past form tells me you'll be more than happy to drag this on and on and I can't be arsed and nobody wants to read it.

If he comes with his own personal ring announcer who introduces him in Japanese, I'll watch.

Daishi betto kun yu! Sittu ka machuno sippi ya! Matitto! Kamasupa! TSUUUUUUUUUU-NAAAAA-MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!

And yet, you were the one calling me an idiot for not believing that Sting was coming on 2-21-11.

Please go back, find where I call you an idiot strictly for not believing Sting was coming and either PM it to me, post it on my wall gimmick, in 100,000 replies etc, not in here basically. Because you won't be able to do it. You'll go back and find me telling you that you don't know for sure either way what was going on while you were busy making 'factual statements'. Kind of fits somewhat of a trend here.

[CSL]

I quite like Tenay :o Well, like is a strong word, I think he could do a job for Vince on Smackdown or Superstars etc.

[loopydate]

PWInsider is reporting that Jeff got sent home from tonight's tapings.

[ron the dial]

IT'S THAT DAMN NETWORK

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Well unless Hardy's either fired or they come out and explicity say it's a work, I'm going to accuse anyone supporting TNA's product is supporting the downfall and death of another human being and is therefore on the level of a dictator.

[VSG]

Whatever happened to that Scott Stanford guy on Superstars? Still announcing for the show?

[Lara Emily]

I'll happily imply somebody is stupid if their argument is based on something they read on a news and rumours wrestling site. Because that is a stupid thing to do. I could not care less if people simply want to read, talk about, listen to any of it. And please, read what I wrote in response to Xero. It has nothing to do with 'thinking I'm better'. It's common sense




LOL common sense, right you think you have it (cause you don't believe in reputable wrestling news sources) and people like me don't (because I do believe wrestling reputable news sources exists). Again tell me how that isn't an implication that you're better. Fact of the matter is you're the mirror image of the people you bitch about, you bitch constantly about IWC people who believe everything posted on the net, yet you pretty much refuse to believe anything posted on the net.

Refusing to believe 100% what a guy like Metlzer or another legit news source says is the same thing as believing 100% what Meltzer/legit news source says

Meltzer is not always right but he's a pretty reliable source, he's been around since litterally before the internet, you don't get that sort of sustainability without being credible.

[CSL]

lol you just can't help yourself can you

[BizarroKing]

Most of you probably know by now, but Hardy has been sent home from the Impact tapings.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

While you guys are fighting, Jeff Hardy is somewhere in pain and needs our help. DID YOU EVEN THINK OF THAT

[Lara Emily]

lol you just can't help yourself can you

I quite enjoy a good argument.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Most of you probably know by now, but Hardy has been sent home from the Impact tapings.

Well yeah, it's on this very page.

Are you high, son?

[CSL]

While you guys are fighting, Jeff Hardy is somewhere in pain and needs our help. DID YOU EVEN THINK OF THAT

We are the world, we are the Hardyssss
We are the ones to make a better something something somethinggggg

[VSG]

Option number 5: TNA produces a DVD "The Self Destruction of the Charismatic Enigma" and makes enough cash to go on the road permanently and get crowds more of the size as in the Charlotte tapings.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Option 6: Russo shot him with a tranquilliser dart.

[BizarroKing]

If Jeff ends up fighting at Lockdown I will laugh then cry at TNA. Fire him or at least suspend him until he gets his shit together.

[VSG]

Angle did that to Big Show in WWE so can't put it past Russo.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

JBL went on to headline Wrestlemania after he came out in a similar condition with an inflatable dinosaur, don't forget.

[BizarroKing]

JBL went on to headline Wrestlemania after he came out in a similar condition with an inflatable dinosaur, don't forget.

Option 7: Book Jeff Hardy vs Inflatable Barney for #1 Contendership.
Or better yet, Hardy vs a cardboard standee of John Cena

[MoFo]

Maybe he had concussion, everytime I watch TNA there is a concussion angle.

[Lara Emily]

I hope it is a giant work, cause my god it would be without a doubt the stupidest angle in wrestling history and would just be hilarious

[Supreme Olajuwon]

JBL went on to headline Wrestlemania after he came out in a similar condition with an inflatable dinosaur, don't forget.

Yeah and last time someone tried to profit off of Jeff Hardy's drug history, Hardy became WWE Champion.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Option 8: The Dallas angle AKA "Victory Road was all a dream".

[CSL]

Option 8: The Dallas angle AKA "Victory Road was all a dream".

That has the makings of being the greatest angle 'in the history of this business', especially when they reach Inception levels of dreams with dreams and it turns out WCW actually still exists.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Can't wait till they pan out at the very end and Bill Watts is in bed with Bob Newhart who just had a horrible nightmare.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Bob Newhart was a damn good wrestler.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I've just seen Sid Vicious get a downs syndrome kid coach as part of his face turn, come down to the ring where Oklahoma was commentating and this still feels like the most retarded thing ever.

[Lara Emily]

Can't wait till they pan out at the very end and Bill Watts is in bed with Bob Newhart who just had a horrible nightmare.

Greatest tv shown ending ever, fucking love the meta levels it reached.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Speaking of Nick at Nite, this reminds me of when Sean Mooney interviewed Mary Tyler Moore at WrestleMania 7 I think. Mooney was asking her these stupidly specific questions and she obviously had no idea but bless her heart she was trying really hard.

[BizarroKing]

If they go with the Inception idea I can see this ending with Jarrett back in his Country Western singer gimmick, wrestling in a ECW ring against Moppy, the ECW Champion, which in turn will all be a dream of Mr. McMahon's and it will be revealed TNA is actually WWECW reincarnated and repackaged as TNA presents: WWECWCW

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Also, Sean Mooney was way too fucked to work.

[bigslimjj]

Option 9-The "General Hospital" ending. Where the entire Hogan TNA error was in the imagination of an autistic child.That way they go back to 6 sides,lose Orlando Jordan and erase the Barney belt. And I got the perfect guy for it:

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[BizarroKing]

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The leaked new intro for Impact

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Technically it should be Thunder since it's on a Thursday.

Sorry.

[Testicle]

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Hmm... Bishcoff booked this too...

[MoFo]

yo someone made a timeline for one of the YouTube postings of the main event.*
*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lckr9OLR2Ow
*
ae37jr maid this timeline
2:45-

3:00- Ref gives the "not ok" signal to the hard cam

3:08- Ref waves someone to come towards ring

3:12- ref is talking to an agent or someone

3:25-3:35- Ref tells Sting something, Sting says "u kidding me?", then mutters stuff under his breath as he throws coat out of ring.

5:57- Bischoff tells off Hardy

6:21- Bischoff tells Sting something.

[CSL]

lol Hall selling his own missed punch for longer than he sells most guys finishes. Love it.

[bigslimjj]

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Hmm... Bishcoff booked this too...I happened to enjoy this angle.It did make light of Hall's problem a little,but nothing like what WWE did with Hardys issues. Plus it set up a match with Nash at Havoc,which still wasn't near as bad as Hogan v. Warrior 2.

[Nark Order]

What is all the arguing about here. Whether Hardy was actually shitfaced out of his mind or whether it was a worked shoot, it was absolutely horrible PPV material either way. They literally could've done ANYTHING else and it would've been better than what they did. If Hardy was unable to compete, all they needed was one guy to call a hail mary for the ending of the show not to look ridiculous and unprofessional. They could've gotten anybody to take Hardy's place but they didn't because they have no clue what they're doing. And if that ending WAS actually planned then TNA is in far worse shape than we even imagined.

To all of you saying that we don't know what happened either way and we shouldn't act like we do... you're right. But what I do know is that the ending was absolutely fucking abysmal and that it didn't have to be that way. For a company that maybe gets more criticism than they deserve sometimes, they sure do bring most of it upon themselves.

[Razzamajazz]

has there ever been a tna show thread that has gotten this many replies?

[dronepool]

I still like Jeff Hardy but why can't he wait til after the match to get ripped? It sucks that things got fucked up cause of wrestlers acting like rock stars.

[Jeritron]

lol

[Jeritron]

I'm pretty sure a problem like this starts from "waiting until after the match to get ripped."
Then it's before. If it's legit, he's obviously a hardcore drug addict and he's not "getting ripped."
He's strung out and unable to function.

[Hanso Amore]

I still like Jeff Hardy but why can't he wait til after the match to get ripped? It sucks that things got fucked up cause of wrestlers acting like rock stars.

I dont think you grasp the concept of addiction

[Hanso Amore]

HEY METH HEAD WHY CANT YOU WAIT UNTIL A GOOD TIME TO DO DRUGS AND WHY DONT YOU GET A HOUSE AND A JOB.

[Jeritron]

Or the level of drug use/kind of drug likely being used

[Jeritron]

I like River Phoenix's movies and everything but why can't he just do enough heroin to stay alive until after they wrap Stand By Me 2?

[Emperor Smeat]

TNA could have at least temporarily solved the main event debacle by having their #1 contendor come out after the match to attack Sting as both a way to eat up some time and set up the hype for the next ppv.

Only problem is TNA was dumb enough to not have a winner from that match even though they had a tweener/heel with Mr Anderson as a possible choice.

[CSL]

I was like 'whaaaaaaat?' and went to check if they were actually planning on making a Stand By Me II before he OD'd because of that post :o

[Mr. Nerfect]

What is all the arguing about here. Whether Hardy was actually shitfaced out of his mind or whether it was a worked shoot, it was absolutely horrible PPV material either way. They literally could've done ANYTHING else and it would've been better than what they did. If Hardy was unable to compete, all they needed was one guy to call a hail mary for the ending of the show not to look ridiculous and unprofessional. They could've gotten anybody to take Hardy's place but they didn't because they have no clue what they're doing. And if that ending WAS actually planned then TNA is in far worse shape than we even imagined.

Thank you. It's good when people get it. Angle or not (and it's appearing not), this was just fucked up and horrible. If someone thought that this was a good idea, they need to lose their job. If the blame falls on Hardy and those who let him perform -- then a shitload of people need to lose their jobs.

[Mr. Nerfect]

TNA could have at least temporarily solved the main event debacle by having their #1 contendor come out after the match to attack Sting as both a way to eat up some time and set up the hype for the next ppv.

Only problem is TNA was dumb enough to not have a winner from that match even though they had a tweener/heel with Mr Anderson as a possible choice.

This, as well. Great job, TNA. People pay to see a #1 Contender and a World Heavyweight Title match, and you give them neither. This is in addition to no blood in a first blood match.

[CSL]

Nobody has disputed what either of you have said in either of those posts. In fact, aside from the ragging on Hardy stuff and Fun Times With Lara Emily, it's mostly all been talking about how horrible/awful it is.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nobody has disputed what either of you have said in either of those posts. In fact, aside from the ragging on Hardy stuff and Fun Times With Lara Emily, it's mostly all been talking about how horrible/awful it is.

Then why the fuck are you arguing over useless semantics? Stop being a douche, shut the fuck up and bask in how horrible this is. This should unify us as fans against shitty happenings in wrestling -- stop using it to divide. That's what They want.

[CSL]

Excuse me? You, the king of the pointless fantasy booking essay, has decided to climb upon some variety of high horse and are now talking to somebody else about 'useless semantics'? Get the fuck out of here. It's either a shit wrestling angle or a really shit piece of 'business' that people have been discussing for the most part (surprising on a discussion forum) "Unify"? "Divide"? "What they want"? Are you fucking serious?

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.noelshack.com/uploads/images/4322798966871_jeffsnifftheline.png

[BizarroKing]

http://www.noelshack.com/uploads/images/4322798966871_jeffsnifftheline.png

Look closely at that eye of his, something ain't right in it.

[Jeritron]

I'm staggered by anyone who would contend that he wasn't on the verge of collapsing last night.
Work or not.

[Jeritron]

Him walking up the ring stairs during his entrance is my favorite part

[Jordan]

One of the things that pisses me off about this, almost more than anything is Jeff's disrespect to Sting. Sting who is trying to salvage the company as the lead because Jeff can't due to legal fuck ups. Jeff shit's on Sting like that? One of the biggest legends ever? Total bullshit, no doubt Sting wishes he would have signed on for Wrestlemania. Total disgrace.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

"Last night, I was watching a 15 year old match of Jeff Hardy as enhancement talent on wweclassics.com. That was wweclassics.com, wasn't it?"

"No hateful replies to my Jeff Hardy tweet this morning. I guess I reconciled with all of you TNA fans and we agree on last night's debacle."

Lol.

Also Val Venis apparently echoed most other wrestlers main complaint (according to dirt sheets) by saying he popped up too quick from Stings finisher... WTF.

Matt Hardy has said Jeff is fine, but was too busy bragging his match with AJ stole the show.

Shane Helms got involved in a bar fight last night too. Great weekend for these guys.

There's also allegedly meetings ongoing to decide what to do with Jeff... Seriously, they need fucking meetings to decide that?

[Xero]

They're probably going to offer him rehab instead of firing him.

I honestly would not be surprised if that's the case, he turns it down, and they release him.

If TNA doesn't release him, though, under any circumstances (again, assuming he was legit fucked up), they are worse off than I could have ever imagined.

[YoungFlyFlashy]

yo someone made a timeline for one of the YouTube postings of the main event.*
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lckr9OLR2Ow
*

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[YoungFlyFlashy]

I think a couple words come to mind...honor and loyalty.

Since July 4, 1987, Sting had been with WCW, until the very end on March 26, 2001. He never left the promotion once.

Since June 18, 2003, Sting has been with TNA.

I believe Sting wants to help the younger talent very much, like he tried to do in WCW. I believe it's guys like Hogan, Flair, Bischoff, Russo, and Dixie Carter that's messing things up in TNA.

The loyalty to WCW is obvious, but what is there to be loyal to TNA for? I mean I guess it very unselfish of him to not care about no longer being memorable past 1999, but can he really just continue to take personal embarassment in TNA time and time again? Seriously, TNA does not deserve his loyalty.

[Nark Order]

By the way, didn't Vince officially own WCW before the last Monday Nitro taping? If so, Sting has definitely worked for Vince.

[Xero]

By the way, didn't Vince officially own WCW before the last Monday Nitro taping? If so, Sting has definitely worked for Vince.

This is technically correct. I think it was official on the Friday before. Nitro was crawling with WWF road agents and producers that night.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

By the way, didn't Vince officially own WCW before the last Monday Nitro taping? If so, Sting has definitely worked for Vince.

There was a formal agreement, but nothing signed yet I believe.

But it was a WWE booked show, so a semantic argument could be made.

[YoungFlyFlashy]

This is technically correct. I think it was official on the Friday before. Nitro was crawling with WWF road agents and producers that night.

...and a McMahon (Shane) as well...

[Nark Order]

THE CAKE IS A FUCKING LIE!

[Nark Order]

Also, if there actually were talks between Sting and WWE recently, I'll bet Sting is just absolutely fucking thrilled that he decided to stay with TNA. Especially after Victory Road.

[YoungFlyFlashy]

Didn't notice until now, but a fan at the end was saying bullshit and Sting replies "I agree, I agree..."

[Nark Order]

Didn't notice until now, but a fan at the end was saying bullshit and Sting replies "I agree, I agree..."

Yeah, I caught that as well. I'm fairly certain that this wasn't a work. He looked legitimately upset and Hardy looked legitimately shitfaced.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Nah, the fan said "great main event Sting. This worked angle with Jeff Hardy being shitfaced is going to go down well isn't it? Praise be to TNA."

Jesus guys, get some decent speakers or something.

[Nark Order]

My bad.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

not going back and rereading to see if this was said, but he could've done whatever he did to fuck himself up during the PPV and they didn't know about it until he was in the ring

[Xero]

I think it was clear they knew something was wrong when he went out. There was a bit of a longer pause for him to come out. While that may be normal for him sometimes, this match didn't call for it.

But you may be right, because Hebner does throw up the "X".

[Xero]

Impact spoilers for Thursday. Opening segment, from PWInsider:

Impact opened with TNA champion Sting in the ring holding the old TNA title and Jeff Hardy version. Sting said that before Hulk Hogan tries to overtake the show, he wants them to get out here and face him. Hogan and Eric Bischoff come out. Sting tosses them the Hardy belt and says this is theirs and they can take the garbage. Sting says that Hogan took one of the brightest stars in wrestling, Jeff Hardy, and ruined him with his influence. They acted like Hardy was done as Sting said he can't do anything to help Jeff anymore but he can help TNA. Hogan said that Sting tries to blame everyone else but he's the guy who disappears and shows up when he wants. Hogan said that the only person at fault is Hardy, who couldn't run with Immortal and stand in the shadow of the Hulkster.

--

Don't know what to say to that. Set up for a face turn? Writing Hardy off?

[YoungFlyFlashy]

Impact spoilers for Thursday. Opening segment, from PWInsider:

Impact opened with TNA champion Sting in the ring holding the old TNA title and Jeff Hardy version. Sting said that before Hulk Hogan tries to overtake the show, he wants them to get out here and face him. Hogan and Eric Bischoff come out. Sting tosses them the Hardy belt and says this is theirs and they can take the garbage. Sting says that Hogan took one of the brightest stars in wrestling, Jeff Hardy, and ruined him with his influence. They acted like Hardy was done as Sting said he can't do anything to help Jeff anymore but he can help TNA. Hogan said that Sting tries to blame everyone else but he's the guy who disappears and shows up when he wants. Hogan said that the only person at fault is Hardy, who couldn't run with Immortal and stand in the shadow of the Hulkster.

--

Don't know what to say to that. Set up for a face turn? Writing Hardy off?

Pretty badass honestly, I like how TNA cleaned this up.

[VSG]

Writing Hardy off, but in a good way.

I thought someone said Eric Young had the old title?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Impact spoilers for Thursday. Opening segment, from PWInsider:

Impact opened with TNA champion Sting in the ring holding the old TNA title and Jeff Hardy version. Sting said that before Hulk Hogan tries to overtake the show, he wants them to get out here and face him. Hogan and Eric Bischoff come out. Sting tosses them the Hardy belt and says this is theirs and they can take the garbage. Sting says that Hogan took one of the brightest stars in wrestling, Jeff Hardy, and ruined him with his influence. They acted like Hardy was done as Sting said he can't do anything to help Jeff anymore but he can help TNA. Hogan said that Sting tries to blame everyone else but he's the guy who disappears and shows up when he wants. Hogan said that the only person at fault is Hardy, who couldn't run with Immortal and stand in the shadow of the Hulkster.

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Don't know what to say to that. Set up for a face turn? Writing Hardy off?

If this isn't a work, they can fuck off with this. If he was legit fucked up, someone in the company should have come out and apologised on his behalf and never referenced him again.

What a fucking joke of a company, like worse than I thought possible.

[YoungFlyFlashy]

Writing Hardy off, but in a good way.

I thought someone said Eric Young had the old title?

He did, he actually had it as of Double J's wedding ceremony, so about 2 weeks ago he had it, I had assumed Russo was going to turn it into the Hardcore belt, i.e. WWE angle with the Winged Eagle.

[Jordan]

I think Sting could be the savior of TNA eventually... however I feel like this is going to end up Sting vs Hogan and BFG, which would not be the best choice. I think they should have Sting hold the title until BFG and lose it to the next "top guy", Anderson or Morgan or whoever.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

While they can't get worse than that opener, bless TNA for trying to be even worse

*They do a segment where The Pope makes a blind man see, then makes a handicapped man get out of a wheelchair and walk. Pope then says he can't do anything to help heavy woman, taking shots at Samoa Joe and his family. Joe comes out and Pope retreats but beats up Okada in the process. Joe finally runs off Pope. The fans chanted "That was stupid."

[YoungFlyFlashy]

I think Sting could be the savior of TNA eventually... however I feel like this is going to end up Sting vs Hogan and BFG, which would not be the best choice. I think they should have Sting hold the title until BFG and lose it to the next "top guy", Anderson or Morgan or whoever.

What? Sting is about to be 52 years old in 6 days, the only thing he'll be saving is his pay checks. Kurt Angle so far has been the only LEGIT chance of any kind of "savior" and their slowly destroying that street.

[VSG]

While they can't get worse than that opener, bless TNA for trying to be even worse

*They do a segment where The Pope makes a blind man see, then makes a handicapped man get out of a wheelchair and walk. Pope then says he can't do anything to help heavy woman, taking shots at Samoa Joe and his family. Joe comes out and Pope retreats but beats up Okada in the process. Joe finally runs off Pope. The fans chanted "That was stupid."

Sigh.. Here I was *almost* impressed by that opening segment, however unethical it was, and they follow it up with that. Sigh...

[DLVH84]

What? Sting is about to be 52 years old in 6 days, the only thing he'll be saving is his pay checks. Kurt Angle so far has been the only LEGIT chance of any kind of "savior" and their slowly destroying that street.

To be fair, I believe both Sting and Kurt Angle are going to be the true saviors of TNA. They put younger talent over, over the years, and had given them some pointers to help them out.

I don't believe the whole "saving the paychecks" shtick about Sting. Hogan, yes. Bischoff, definitely. Flair, absolutely. But Sting, I highly doubt that.

[Nark Order]

How will they save TNA? If it hasn't happened yet, why are you under this belief that everything is going to work out all of a sudden? They've had Kurt for a long time and they've had Sting even longer. I really want TNA to be legit competition for the E machine but let's get fucking real here. They have no clue what they're doing.

[YoungFlyFlashy]

To be fair, I believe both Sting and Kurt Angle are going to be the true saviors of TNA. They put younger talent over, over the years, and had given them some pointers to help them out.

I don't believe the whole "saving the paychecks" shtick about Sting. Hogan, yes. Bischoff, definitely. Flair, absolutely. But Sting, I highly doubt that.

The saving paychecks line wasn't meant to be a shot at Sting, it's that at this point in his career Sting is worthless on tv as far as getting viewers, I am sure he is amazing backstage with the talent, but does not mean shit for ratings and popularity. Kurt Angle is done, the best thing going in TNA in an angle with Double fuckin' J! You do this type of angle after Kurt has established TNA and just to keep him relevant while the younger guys take the title scene.

[Jura]

I could do without the dueling chants during every match. And give Generation Me some better clothes and a hair-cut. And why does every group need to have some kind of weird name?

[Mr. JL]

Whether or not this was a worked shoot or if Jeff was legit fucked up on drugs, TNA handled this horribly.

[McLegend]

Also is it just me, or is Mike Tenay the worst announcer ever? I dunno man, he knows a ton about certain things, but he is so unpleasant to listen to.

This has been talked about for years. So no it's not just you.

[McLegend]

Yeah I think it was work. TNA changes things on the fly all the time so why wouldn't they change the card if Jeff Hardy was fucked up?

I really think whoever said that Jeffy Hardy was going to do a Charlie Sheen gimmick is on to something. That would be such a Vince Russo idea.

[Xero]

lol, apparently Hogan said this at the end of that first spoiler I posted, from PWInsider:

Hogan said stars from all over the world want to join his Tsunami taking over wrestling.

[VSG]

Wow... I mean, wow!

[Jordan]

lol, apparently Hogan said this at the end of that first spoiler I posted, from PWInsider:

Hogan said stars from all over the world want to join his Tsunami taking over wrestling.

:nono:

[Lara Emily]

TNA is fucking garbage

[Schlomey]

I'll probably post a short review later but I will say this...when the best match on the card involves Matt Hardy then something must be wrong.

[MoFo]

lolll Hogan w/ the heel heatz.

Hes a walking car wreck. :shifty:

[Lara Emily]

LOL annnnnnnnd remember how they used the double count out finish in the #1 Conteder's match to hype that they'll solve the problem of who is the #1 Contender on Thursday wellllllllllllllll here's what they did

* AJ Styles vs. Bully Ray vs. Mr. Anderson vs. Rob Van Dam for the #1 contenders spot at the TNA World Heavyweight Championship ends in a no contest when the match gets crazy, fast. AJ and Ray brawl outside of the ring while Anderson and RVD fight in the ring. AJ was about to hit Ray with a chair, but Ric Flair came out and low blowed him, allowing Ray to powerbomb AJ off the stage through a table. Both are looked at by trainers while a medical crew comes out with a stretcher and takes AJ to the hospital as Ray tries to attack AJ and falls. It appears the taping has ended at this point.


So yup they use a double countout to hype a No contest, fucking awful

[MoFo]

ahaaahahahahahabaaha

[Jordan]

lol poor old chaps

[Lock Jaw]

Clearly it has become a problem THAT CAN ONLY BE SOLVED INSIDE THE <s>SIX</s> FOUR SIDES OF STEEL!!!

[Xero]

Which will end in a quadruple count out.