View Full Version : Spent their entire career as a heel
Rollermacka
03-21-2011, 11:55 AM
I remember awhile beack when somebody did a topic about people who spent their entire careers as a face, how about the oppposite? Who are some of the wrestlers that have spent their entire career as a heel? Some of the wrestlers I can think of would be The One Man Gang, Kevin Sullivan, and Ivan Koloff. A couple of tag teams I could thing of would be The Destruction Crew and The Texas Hangmen.
Side note, I always like the Texas Hanngmen when I was younger. They were kinda a cross between Demoltition and badass Texans with the spiked hoods, nooses and the leather jacket/ chaps. If I do become a wrestler I'm gonna rip off the gimmick, Texas Hangman Rollermacka... yea, maybe I should work on the name
Scott Hall was always a heel whether you choose to believe it or not.
dingdongyo
03-21-2011, 12:23 PM
that's a tough list to come up with. wasn't the one man gang a face as "akeem"?
Gertner
03-21-2011, 12:31 PM
Older wrestlers like the Sheik and Bruiser Brody must have been heels their entire careers I'm guessing.
I'm pretty sure the Iron Sheik was never a face as well.
Seth82
03-21-2011, 12:36 PM
Older wrestlers like the Sheik and Bruiser Brody must have been heels their entire careers I'm guessing.
I'm pretty sure the Iron Sheik was never a face as well.
nah Brody was a hugely popular face in WCCW in the 80's
Seth82
03-21-2011, 12:38 PM
I'm pretty sure the Iron Sheik was never a face as well.
He was a face early on his career as Ali Vaziri in the AWA
Gertner
03-21-2011, 12:44 PM
I completely forgot that about Brody and I wasn't aware of that about the Iron Sheik
Rammsteinmad
03-21-2011, 12:44 PM
Hogan was never a face. In my eyes anyway.
Rollermacka
03-21-2011, 12:47 PM
that's a tough list to come up with. wasn't the one man gang a face as "akeem"?
I wanna say Akeem was heel with Slick. As part of the Twin Towers with Bossman, and after when he feuded with the him
NormanSmiley
03-21-2011, 01:03 PM
Akeem stayed hell after the twin towers split BBM went face. & Rammsteinmad hit the nail on the head!
Seth82
03-21-2011, 01:06 PM
Dino bravo
Bravo was a heel in the WWF in the late 80's up til 1991
erickman
03-21-2011, 01:06 PM
maby piper he was more of a heel that people cheered, on that list i may put rick flair, i guess bobby the brain the only true heel for life.
Seth82
03-21-2011, 01:07 PM
maby piper he was more of a heel that people cheered, on that list i may put rick flair, i guess bobby the brain the only true heel for life.
Piper was a face in his late 80's run thru the early 90's
as well as his WCW run
and Flair was a huge face in the early 80's before he was in the Horsemen
He even feuded with Tully Blanchard
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-21-2011, 01:20 PM
Rick Rude
Seth82
03-21-2011, 01:22 PM
Rick Rude
nope he was a face early on in his career in the old Mid South territory
Seth82
03-21-2011, 01:45 PM
Killer Khan and Duke Keomuka
Innovator
03-21-2011, 01:49 PM
Miz?
Jordan
03-21-2011, 01:51 PM
Bobby Heenan?
Jordan
03-21-2011, 01:52 PM
Maybe going way back but Gorgeous George.
Jordan
03-21-2011, 01:58 PM
I'm sure Ted was a babyface initially but The Million Dollar Man was a constant heel.
Seth82
03-21-2011, 02:02 PM
I'm sure Ted was a babyface initially but The Million Dollar Man was a constant heel.
yeah Ted worked as a hugely popular babyface in Mid-South as well as Georgia Championship Wrestling
Seth82
03-21-2011, 02:03 PM
Bobby Heenan?
correct
Heenan was never a face
Cuse8
03-21-2011, 02:04 PM
Miz?
when miz first started as the host on smackdown he was a face..he didnt get much of a reaction and basically was annoying, but the heel persona didnt come till after that
Rollermacka
03-21-2011, 02:05 PM
Miz?
I was kinda thinking of wrestlers who have had much longer careers. It would be like saying Kofi Kingston has spent his entire career as a face
Mjdiesel
03-21-2011, 02:06 PM
Bad News Brown/Allen
Iron Sheik
Shit,this is harder to envision than I thought?
Was Blassie always a heel manager back in the day?
Seth82
03-21-2011, 02:07 PM
Bad News Brown/Allen
Iron Sheik
Shit,this is harder to envision than I thought?
Was Blassie always a heel manager back in the day?
Blassie was actually a wrestler in the 60's and 70's
and usually always a heel and a nasty one at that
seapig4
03-21-2011, 02:09 PM
Earthquake?
Cuse8
03-21-2011, 02:11 PM
Earthquake?
earthquake alone was a heel..initially when he teamed up with tugboat/typhoon as the natural disasters they were heels, but they had a face turn and fueded with money inc and the beverly brothers
DLVH84
03-21-2011, 02:30 PM
I remember awhile beack when somebody did a topic about people who spent their entire careers as a face, how about the oppposite? Who are some of the wrestlers that have spent their entire career as a heel? Some of the wrestlers I can think of would be The One Man Gang, Kevin Sullivan, and Ivan Koloff. A couple of tag teams I could thing of would be The Destruction Crew and The Texas Hangmen.
Side note, I always like the Texas Hanngmen when I was younger. They were kinda a cross between Demoltition and badass Texans with the spiked hoods, nooses and the leather jacket/ chaps. If I do become a wrestler I'm gonna rip off the gimmick, Texas Hangman Rollermacka... yea, maybe I should work on the name
Ivan Koloff was briefly a face in 1988, after breaking away from Paul Jones.
Jordan
03-21-2011, 03:01 PM
Wild guess, The Honky Tonk Man. King Kong Bundy, Kevin Sullivan
Gertner
03-21-2011, 03:03 PM
The Honky Tonk Man I'm pretty sure was a face when he debuted in the WWF.
James Mitchell / Sinister Minister
Gertner
03-21-2011, 03:39 PM
Tajiri/Whipwreck was a face tag team in ECW and Mitchell was their manager, even though they'd be heels in practically every other wrestling company.
erickman
03-21-2011, 03:49 PM
Blassie was actually a wrestler in the 60's and 70's
and usually always a heel and a nasty one at that
yea i forgot about blassie. on the mannagers list we have a good list of heels bobby the brain, blassie, james michel, an i will add paul-e, i would add cornett and eric bischoff but they played faces a few times.
Razzamajazz
03-21-2011, 03:53 PM
abdullah the butcher
Jordan
03-21-2011, 04:05 PM
I was thinking Abby too, how about Harley Race?
Anybody Thrilla
03-21-2011, 04:07 PM
earthquake alone was a heel..initially when he teamed up with tugboat/typhoon as the natural disasters they were heels, but they had a face turn and fueded with money inc and the beverly brothers
Not to mention, he was a face as Golga of The Oddities.
Rollermacka
03-21-2011, 04:18 PM
earthquake alone was a heel..initially when he teamed up with tugboat/typhoon as the natural disasters they were heels, but they had a face turn and fueded with money inc and the beverly brothers
Not to mention, he was a face as Golga of The Oddities.
and when he was a man not a fish in WCW
Cuse8
03-21-2011, 04:18 PM
Not to mention, he was a face as Golga of The Oddities.
ah yes good call..an excellent angle
D Mac
03-21-2011, 04:22 PM
Haku
Seth82
03-21-2011, 04:22 PM
Wild guess, The Honky Tonk Man. King Kong Bundy, Kevin Sullivan
Bundy was a face in WCCW as an ally of the von erichs but later turned on them
Sullivan was a face from the early 70's up til his satanic gimmick in the early to mid 80's in CWF Florida
Seth82
03-21-2011, 04:24 PM
I was thinking Abby too, how about Harley Race?
Harley was a face several times in the old Central States promotion
Haku
Wasn't he a face for a bit when he came back at Royal Rumble 2001?
I remember a segment when HHH was going to attack Rikishi in the locker room w/ a fire extinguisher then Haku came out the shower and was like "hey yo wat r u doing" and HHH shat brix.
DLVH84
03-21-2011, 05:00 PM
Wasn't he a face for a bit when he came back at Royal Rumble 2001?
I remember a segment when HHH was going to attack Rikishi in the locker room w/ a fire extinguisher then Haku came out the shower and was like "hey yo wat r u doing" and HHH shat brix.
Haku was a face around 1998-2001 in WCW as Meng.
Seth82
03-21-2011, 05:08 PM
wasn't Haku a face as King Tonga as well?
Jordan
03-21-2011, 05:09 PM
Nobody in WCW will qualify for this.
Seth82
03-21-2011, 05:30 PM
Pak Song was a heel his entire career
http://www.wrestleprints.com/zc/images//wrestleprints/PakSongPosed70s.jpg
Emperor Smeat
03-21-2011, 05:37 PM
Nobody in WCW will qualify for this.
Would Vince Russo count even though he wasn't a wrestler but played a character on tv?
jthrottle
03-21-2011, 05:46 PM
Brooklyn Brawler? As far as I recall was always a heel
jskinnyg
03-21-2011, 05:49 PM
I think Killer Kowalski was pretty much a heel his entire career...
jskinnyg
03-21-2011, 05:50 PM
And maybe Cowboy Bob Orton?
Seth82
03-21-2011, 05:54 PM
And maybe Cowboy Bob Orton?
pretty sure Orton was a face early on in his career in the early to mid 70's
Beth Phoenix Fan
03-21-2011, 06:01 PM
Iron Mike Sharpe?
Seth82
03-21-2011, 06:06 PM
Iron Mike Sharpe?
He was a face before his WWF stint in Georgia Championship Wrestling
Gertner
03-21-2011, 06:07 PM
Heely Heelerson.
jthrottle
03-21-2011, 06:15 PM
Harvey Wippleman , even when he won the womens title as Hervina
Seth82
03-21-2011, 06:18 PM
Harvey Wippleman , even when he won the womens title as Hervina
always a heel
he was a manager in the 80's in Memphis as Downtown Bruno
Corporate CockSnogger
03-21-2011, 06:19 PM
Brooklyn Brawler? As far as I recall was always a heel
He was a face when he got a fluke win over Triple H at some point around 1999 or 2000.
erickman
03-21-2011, 06:39 PM
Would Vince Russo count even though he wasn't a wrestler but played a character on tv?
yeah i don't think he has ever been a face and he still gets heel heat for screwing up tna.
seapig4
03-21-2011, 07:05 PM
Repo Man?
Raven?
Seth82
03-21-2011, 07:09 PM
Repo Man?
Raven?
Raven was a face when he came back to ECW in late 1999 and even teamed with his old rival Tommy Dreamer
He also most likely was a face in his many incarnations before the Raven character
Repo Man was a face as part of Demolition as I know they did have a face run in like 1990
BigDaddyCool
03-21-2011, 07:14 PM
No, Raven was never a face.
Cuse8
03-21-2011, 07:33 PM
zeus!
Jordan
03-21-2011, 07:35 PM
Muhammad Hassan
Jordan
03-21-2011, 07:35 PM
Jessie Ventura?
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-21-2011, 07:38 PM
The Grand Wizard of Wrestling.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-21-2011, 07:41 PM
No, Raven was never a face.
Wrong. He was a face tag team with Perry Saturn in his last days in WCW. They won the tag team titles.
Also briefly helped Dreamer be tag team champions in ECW before turning on him again. Also he lent Saturn money when they were in elementary school so he was a face then.
jskinnyg
03-21-2011, 08:02 PM
Wrong. He was a face tag team with Perry Saturn in his last days in WCW. They won the tag team titles.
Also briefly helped Dreamer be tag team champions in ECW before turning on him again. Also he lent Saturn money when they were in elementary school so he was a face then.
:yes::yes:
Chavo Classic
03-21-2011, 08:13 PM
Ted DiBiase perhaps?
daimoniac
03-21-2011, 08:27 PM
gotta bust the one man gang / akeem theory:
chikara king of trios as part of team wwf that time when he was tagged up with demolition, team wwf worked as face against chikara established heels. 2009 i believe.
he was in the one man gang garb, and there was someone in the audience that dressed as akeem - gang borrowed his hat for a jive soul bro dance off with larry sweeny in a classic segment.
Aguakate
03-21-2011, 08:31 PM
abdullah the butcher
In this video of Abdullah fighting One Man Gang in Puerto Rico, although the narration is in spanish, at 4:54 you can see a face Abdullah The Butcher dancing LOL:
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daimoniac
03-21-2011, 08:33 PM
that fella who played bane in batman "the ultimate solution" or whatever thinly veiled holocaust reference he went by - i cant say i remember him being a face
how bout the berzerker? or "cheex" from tna's early days?
DLVH84
03-21-2011, 09:37 PM
wasn't Haku a face as King Tonga as well?
Yes.
DLVH84
03-21-2011, 09:39 PM
Kim Duk
djoutcry
03-22-2011, 01:08 AM
Jack Thwagger.
Gertner
03-22-2011, 02:05 AM
gotta bust the one man gang / akeem theory:
chikara king of trios as part of team wwf that time when he was tagged up with demolition, team wwf worked as face against chikara established heels. 2009 i believe.
he was in the one man gang garb, and there was someone in the audience that dressed as akeem - gang borrowed his hat for a jive soul bro dance off with larry sweeny in a classic segment.
Yeah, indy wrestling doesn't count because nobody gives a flying fuck about 40 fans watching a match in a high school gym.
Tom Guycott
03-22-2011, 02:51 AM
Would Vince Russo count even though he wasn't a wrestler but played a character on tv?
... didn't he come out as ("world famous") "The Masked Heel" to screw someone out of a title? I don't recall the angle too well, or if that were him or not, but I remember it involved Russo being in at least one match.
Also, Raven was face at at least one point in TNA as well, but since it's a fun game not to count TNA for anything around here, I guess that comment will go unnoticed.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-22-2011, 08:15 AM
Ted DiBiase perhaps?
Face manager of the Steiner Brothers led them to the WCW Tag team titles after getting kicked out of the nWo. Also a face in the WWWF and was the North-American Champion which was a precursor to the IC belt.
Seth82
03-22-2011, 10:04 AM
Face manager of the Steiner Brothers led them to the WCW Tag team titles after getting kicked out of the nWo. Also a face in the WWWF and was the North-American Champion which was a precursor to the IC belt.
yep and as I said before, He was a hugely popular face in the old Mid-South territory
Dante69
03-22-2011, 11:09 AM
The Barbarian
The Warlord
The Great Muta
Road Warrior
03-22-2011, 11:16 AM
Pretty sure Tully Blanchard was a heel his whole career.
Seth82
03-22-2011, 11:19 AM
Pretty sure Tully Blanchard was a heel his whole career.
nope he was a face briefly for his father's promotion Southwest Championship Wrestling
Grablot
03-22-2011, 11:24 AM
Was Mordecai/Kevin Thorn ever face?
I mean he didnt get any reaction as a heel but I THINK he was supose to be a heel. Ariels big boobs getting reaction doesnt get counted as a face right????
Hmph.
Road Warrior
03-22-2011, 11:26 AM
nope he was a face briefly for his father's promotion Southwest Championship Wrestling
Well fuck, how about Outlaw Ron Bass ?
daimoniac
03-22-2011, 11:35 AM
that'll be a no on the warlord and barbarian - the powers of pain were a face team before the "double turn" at survivor series 88
daimoniac
03-22-2011, 11:39 AM
Yeah, indy wrestling doesn't count because nobody gives a flying fuck about 40 fans watching a match in a high school gym.
maybe, but this one got a worldwide dvd release (admittedly not a wwe scale one) and was at the old ECW arena/new alhambra/whatever the fuck they call it this week.
Gertner
03-22-2011, 11:40 AM
Wow! Worldwide! So if I film my cat chasing it's tail and somebody from China buys it, is it a worldwide release?
Lara Emily
03-22-2011, 01:33 PM
Wow! Worldwide! So if I film my cat chasing it's tail and somebody from China buys it, is it a worldwide release?
Last time I checked entire career includes more than just the big feds. Independent feds still count as part of one's career
Lara Emily
03-22-2011, 01:40 PM
Rick Rude?
Briefly a face in ECW
BigDaddyCool
03-22-2011, 01:57 PM
Kevin Sulliven?
Gertner
03-22-2011, 02:00 PM
Last time I checked entire career includes more than just the big feds. Independent feds still count as part of one's career
Wrestling in front of 20 people doesn't count. If a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it, did it happen.
DaveBrawl
03-22-2011, 02:11 PM
If a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it, did it happen.
I'm gonna say yes.
Lara Emily
03-22-2011, 02:13 PM
Wrestling in front of 20 people doesn't count. If a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it, did it happen.
Did it fall? Of course it did! iI was once standing and it is now down, hence it fell. It doesn't mater how many people witnessed it, it still happened. Much like One Man Gang being a face
Lara Emily
03-22-2011, 02:25 PM
Fuck though all of this talk doesn't matter anyway One Man Gang was a face very early in his career bit in Angelo Poffo's International Championship Wrestling, where he was Crusher Bloomfield
DLVH84
03-22-2011, 03:00 PM
The Barbarian
The Warlord
The Great Muta
Muta was a face during his brief stints in WCW between 1992 and 1995.
Barbarian was also a face in WCW around 1993, due to his affiliation with Cactus Jack.
Lara Emily
03-22-2011, 03:13 PM
The Barbarian
The Warlord
The Great Muta
Keiji Mutoh had several face and heel runs (hell he was once both at the same time ace under his real name heel under Muta gimmick)
Seth82
03-22-2011, 03:59 PM
Kevin Sulliven?
Sullivan was a face from the early 70's up til his early 80's satanic gimmick in Florida
Seth82
03-22-2011, 04:00 PM
Rick Rude?
was a face early on in his career in the old Mid-South territory
Jordan
03-22-2011, 04:08 PM
Jessie Ventura? Seth what do ya know?
Seth82
03-22-2011, 04:16 PM
Jessie Ventura? Seth what do ya know?
not really sure about Ventura as most footage I've seen is from AWA and he was a heel there
have not seen his run in Portland where he might've been a face
maybe someone else knows?
DLVH84
03-22-2011, 04:22 PM
Keiji Mutoh had several face and heel runs (hell he was once both at the same time ace under his real name heel under Muta gimmick)
I remember that clearly. It was around 1997 that he did that.
Lara Emily
03-22-2011, 04:31 PM
not really sure about Ventura as most footage I've seen is from AWA and he was a heel there
have not seen his run in Portland where he might've been a face
maybe someone else knows?
He had a face run in Portland feuding with Buddy Rose
Jordan
03-22-2011, 05:14 PM
So is Ricky Steamboat the only guy to only play one side of the coin his whole career?
Seth82
03-22-2011, 05:40 PM
So is Ricky Steamboat the only guy to only play one side of the coin his whole career?
there were plenty of guys who never worked heel actually
Verne and Greg Gagne
Magnum TA
Mil Mascaras
Bruno Sammartino
Jose Lothario
Pedro Morales
Rocky Johnson
Jerry Jarrett
Mike Von Erich
Tito Santana
many others I will list later
voncouch
03-22-2011, 05:58 PM
My knowledge of the old territory days isn't pristine, but the three that popped in my head when I read this were Bobby Heenan, Kurt Henning and Ted Dibiase. As far back as I can remember (80's WWF and beyond), I don't think these three ever worked face.
Also, if you want to add managers, Mr Fuji.
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Seth82
03-22-2011, 06:27 PM
My knowledge of the old territory days isn't pristine, but the three that popped in my head when I read this were Bobby Heenan, Kurt Henning and Ted Dibiase. As far back as I can remember (80's WWF and beyond), I don't think these three ever worked face.
Also, if you want to add managers, Mr Fuji.
Like it's been said many times now
Dibiase worked face in WCW as manager of the Steiners
and in Georgia Championship Wrestling as well as Mid-South
Hennig worked face in AWA
Shisen Kopf
03-22-2011, 09:53 PM
King kong Bundy?
Jordan
03-22-2011, 09:59 PM
Don Callis?
Lara Emily
03-22-2011, 10:01 PM
King kong Bundy?
started his career as a face in WCCW
Lara Emily
03-22-2011, 10:09 PM
Don Callis?
Started his career as a face according to his Slam! Canadian Wrestling Hall of Fame profile
Jordan
03-22-2011, 10:15 PM
Mr. Fuji?
parkmania
03-23-2011, 12:03 AM
Pretty sure I remember Akeem splitting away from Slick and being face for a while.
Emperor Smeat
03-23-2011, 12:17 AM
Mr. Fuji?
He might have been a face after reuniting with Yokozuna when Yokozuna turned face in his last year in the WWF.
Its around the same time as Vader arriving to the WWF and after the brief time of Cornette as Yokozuna's manager.
Tom Guycott
03-23-2011, 03:08 AM
there were plenty of guys who never worked heel actually
Verne and Greg Gagne
Magnum TA
Mil Mascaras
Bruno Sammartino
Jose Lothario
Pedro Morales
Rocky Johnson
Jerry Jarrett
Mike Von Erich
Tito Santana
many others I will list later
Technically, Tito turned heel a couple months ago via he and Chavo Classic backing/praising Alberto Del Rio. It was a one off, but still a heel turn.
Rollermacka
03-23-2011, 12:28 PM
Technically, Tito turned heel a couple months ago via he and Chavo Classic backing/praising Alberto Del Rio. It was a one off, but still a heel turn.
Did he really turn heel or does he work as a chauffeur now and was at work that night?
Lara Emily
03-23-2011, 12:47 PM
He might have been a face after reuniting with Yokozuna when Yokozuna turned face in his last year in the WWF.
Its around the same time as Vader arriving to the WWF and after the brief time of Cornette as Yokozuna's manager.
Correct when Yoko went face Fuji turned too, he started waving the American flag around instead of the Japanese fkag
parkmania
03-23-2011, 11:49 PM
there were plenty of guys who never worked heel actually
Tito Santana
Didn't he debut the El Matador character as a heel?
Vox Populi
03-23-2011, 11:54 PM
Dino bravo
Babyface on multiple occasions.
Lara Emily
03-24-2011, 03:54 AM
Didn't he debut the El Matador character as a heel?
nope
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-24-2011, 04:29 AM
Well fuck, how about Outlaw Ron Bass ?
Briefly was a face in NWA. Had a match against his former tag team partner Black Bart with a stipulation of getting a five-minute match with JJ Dillion. It was a part of Starrcade 1985.
Won the match against Black Bart but lost the 5 minute match cause Bart interfered.
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