Vince McMahon's views on John Morrison [Archive]

04-11-2011, 05:16 AM

And I quotes (Josh Matthews style :p)

Link:http://www.tpww.net/2011/04/why-vince-mcmahon-dislikes-john-morrison-more/

Former WWE creative team member John Piermarini stated in a blog post earlier this year that Vince McMahon believes John Morrison “can’t kick anyone’s ass in a real fight” and therefore won’t achieve the success many feel he’s destined for. That’s not the only criticism being levied towards “The Prince of Parkour” as many people within WWE feel he comes off as if he’s performing in his matches, as opposed to fighting. This holds him back, as does his relationship with Melina and the belief that his promo ability is subpar.

Character aside, it’s been said that McMahon doesn’t respect Morrison as a man. Years ago, he allowed Melina to engage in a sexual relationship with former WWE talent Dave Bautista (a/k/a Batista) while the two were dating. Morrison opted to be professional instead of confrontational and therefore lost brownie points with the WWE CEO. For some reason or another, Vince has always been a fan of confrontations. Of course, WWE management feels differently.

Rammsteinmad

04-11-2011, 05:38 AM

So he wants to get rid of the word 'wrestling' and made sure the entire world knows that he runs an 'entertainment company', and then he dislikes JoMo because he seems to 'perform' rather than 'fight'. :|

04-11-2011, 05:47 AM

He lost my respect when he let his girlfriend have coitus with Batista.

04-11-2011, 06:02 AM

I think that's Vince's major gripe. Dude lost a lot of "Man Points" there.

Does Miz look like he could "kick someone's ass in a real fight"? And he's the WWE Champ right now.

04-11-2011, 06:04 AM

Does Miz look like he could "kick someone's ass in a real fight"? And he's the WWE Champ right now.

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Cool King

04-11-2011, 06:05 AM

Well between Miz and Morrison, I'd expect Miz to be able to kick someone's ass in a real fight. :-\

04-11-2011, 06:22 AM

I imagine his look doesn't help all that much with his bad-assery.

Supreme Olajuwon

04-11-2011, 07:11 AM

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MoFo

04-11-2011, 07:15 AM

looks like a bullshit story to me.

Cant imagine hes being held back because his offence looks too fake, c'mon.

04-11-2011, 07:19 AM

What are trying to say Supreme?

Supreme Olajuwon

04-11-2011, 07:22 AM

That Shawn Michaels, the greatest "performer" in the company's history, doesn't look like he could beat up anyone either.

Volare

04-11-2011, 07:46 AM

I thought he couldn't and that's why he got his ass kicked by all those Marines.

Nicky Fives

04-11-2011, 07:48 AM

Maybe he's tired of JoMo botching his finish every week.....

Volare

04-11-2011, 07:55 AM

Well he still has Pyro in his entrance....he's still got some favors.

TheAdamEvansFan

04-11-2011, 08:18 AM

Morrison is the best out there, actually tries to impress the crowd.

WWE will end up screwing him over or endeavoring him like everyone else.

Bring back Shelton Benjamin and you'd have a great fucking match vs Johnny NITRO.

Theo Dious

04-11-2011, 08:55 AM

He lost my respect when he let his girlfriend have coitus with Batista.

This.

Even more so if I ever find out he was watching.

wwe2222

04-11-2011, 09:32 AM

I thought he couldn't and that's why he got his ass kicked by all those Marines.

well one guy vs a few marines is a pretty even fight.

HBK didnt let people sleep with this girl. He slept with other people's girls.

HBPunk

04-11-2011, 09:57 AM

well one guy vs a few marines is a pretty even fight.

HBK didnt let people sleep with this girl. He slept with other people's girls.

Damn fucking right he did. He can have me if he wants too

seapig4

04-11-2011, 09:57 AM

He lost my respect when he let his girlfriend have coitus with Batista.

A thousand times this. It says a hell of a lot about a man who allows this to happen

Rammsteinmad

04-11-2011, 09:58 AM

I don't think this is gonna have too much of an effect on JoMo right now to be honest. The guy is over and is one of the most unique guys on the roster.

HBPunk

04-11-2011, 10:02 AM

Maybe he's tired of JoMo botching his finish every week.....

How the fuck does it not occur to JoMo that he will miss the guy if hes lying too close to the turnbuckle. But no, every week he overshoots it and his move becomes a very fancy slap on the arm. Jomo is a moron, with Ziggler just behind. On a Raw before mania when JoMo helped Trish and Snooki, Ziggler shouted from outside the ring ''hey come on...hey you're not even a girl Morrison'' wow

Morrison is the best out there, actually tries to impress the crowd.

WWE will end up screwing him over or endeavoring him like everyone else.

He tries to impress the crowd? So what do Evan Bourne, Shawn Michaels, Rey Mysterio, Sin Cara, Justin Gabriel etc try??

Supreme Olajuwon

04-11-2011, 10:16 AM

Also, I thought Vince wanted his guys to perform instead of fight. Isn't the whole purpose of sports entertainment?

Rock Bottom

04-11-2011, 10:25 AM

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Rock Bottom

04-11-2011, 10:27 AM

Does seem a little retarded. Sounds like another excuse to post about Morrison letting Batista bang his girl.

Pretty sure we can look forward to that tidbit being referenced now when any rumors about WWE divas whatsoever surface.

Rock Bottom

04-11-2011, 10:29 AM

*Today someone tweeted about a WWE Diva being engaged to a cook from TV. It should be noted, however, that it could still be Melina, despite being in a relationship with John Morrison. Because as we've all heard, years ago, John Morrison allowed Melina to engage in a sexual relationship with former WWE talent Dave Bautista (a/k/a Batista) while the two were dating.

Supreme Olajuwon

04-11-2011, 10:30 AM

If looking like you could fuck somebody up was the most important thing to Vince, I'm pretty sure we would've had a couple Big Show v. Steve Blackman WrestleMania main events by now.

theregulator

04-11-2011, 10:37 AM

BigDaddyCool

04-11-2011, 10:44 AM

Vince hates "little guys." Wish he would just be honest instead of "well JoMo likes to watch." I mean like Vince hasn't been naked in a room full of dicks.

dingdongyo

04-11-2011, 11:14 AM

He lost my respect when he let his girlfriend have coitus with Batista.
do we know he isn't banging around too? some couples do that, could be their thing.
all i know is there is nobody else on the roster who could have pulled off that wall grab at the royal rumble. i went bananas over that. he can do unique moves and it's fun to watch them.

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eesh... i think cole's arms are bigger than mine....

Ermaximus

04-11-2011, 11:27 AM

do we know he isn't banging around too? some couples do that, could be their thing.
all i know is there is nobody else on the roster who could have pulled off that wall grab at the royal rumble. i went bananas over that. he can do unique moves and it's fun to watch them.

eesh... i think cole's arms are bigger than mine....

I could see Morrison and Melina being swingers.

Nicky Fives

04-11-2011, 11:29 AM

eesh... i think cole's arms are bigger than mine....

No thinking on my part, I know his are bigger than mine.....

TNA&USA#1

04-11-2011, 12:26 PM

John Morrison is a great talent. It's sad that so many people are writing him off because of a minor flaw here or there.

Rammsteinmad

04-11-2011, 12:32 PM

At the end of the day, the guy can go in the ring. Who gives a fuck if he allows other guys to fuck his girl. That's his personal life. He's not doing anyone any harm, and he delivers in the ring. What's the problem?

addy2hotty

04-11-2011, 01:57 PM

I still call bullshit on this 'Morrison encourages other men to fuck Melina while he jacks off while climbing the wall' story.

But it matters if he's too busy hanging around his Missus then he is taking an active interest in other matches, storylines etc.

It was pretty obvious that he avoided Trish in the post-match celebrations and treated her like shit - and frankly, considering she's achieved more than he or his horse-faced girlfriend have so far, he should know better and accept his place at the bottom of the barrel.

Nightwing

04-11-2011, 02:14 PM

Waylander

04-11-2011, 02:16 PM

eesh... i think cole's arms are bigger than mine....

I've been weight training for years now and his arms are bigger than mine too. Guy's got some guns.

Rock Bottom

04-11-2011, 02:25 PM

Morrison will main event despite all this crap.

St. Jimmy

04-11-2011, 02:33 PM

I like Vince.

Craig T. Nelson

04-11-2011, 02:40 PM

Vince likes guys who stand up for themselves. Apparently he though Morrison should have went after Batista.

Guess Morrison doesn't catch Vinnie's eye like Shawn did, because I don't see a heck of a lot of a difference. Well, obviously Michaels is/was a better wrestler. But both were scrawny pretty boys who appeal to kids and women.

Rollermacka

04-11-2011, 02:55 PM

Morrison will main event despite all this crap.

I might be one of the few, but I dont really care for Morrison. I thought he was gonna be this big star when he left the Miz but Miz continues to get better and Morrision is still doing the same things he was when he was apart of MNM. Even now with this feud with Ziggler, I think Ziggler has been growing as a wrestler while Morrision isnt even a girl

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Rock Bottom

04-11-2011, 03:04 PM

I might be one of the few, but I dont really care for Morrison. I thought he was gonna be this big star when he left the Miz but Miz continues to get better and Morrision is still doing the same things he was when he was apart of MNM. Even now with this feud with Ziggler, I think Ziggler has been growing as a wrestler while Morrision isnt even a girl

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When I saw that match I bust a gut laughing pretty hard at Ziggler. That's one of the best lines I've ever heard in kayfabe.

The MAC

04-11-2011, 03:24 PM

what kind of man lets his girlfriend fuck someone else. Vince is right .

HBPunk

04-11-2011, 03:31 PM

what kind of man lets his girlfriend fuck someone else. Vince is right .

See, unlike you, Morrison had a say in his girlfriend doing it :naughty:

HBPunk

04-11-2011, 03:33 PM

John Morrison is a great talent. It's sad that so many people are writing him off because of a minor flaw here or there.

A minor flaw? Missing your finish every single week is a pretty fucking big flaw

erickman

04-11-2011, 04:02 PM

what kind of man lets his girlfriend fuck someone else. Vince is right .

so when are they headed to tna, so they can be involved in the jeff jerret fam values story.

The MAC

04-11-2011, 04:03 PM

See, unlike you, Morrison had a say in his girlfriend doing it :naughty:

listen I tried to talk your mom/ my girlfriend out of it but she wanted to "fuck like the slut she used to be when she got pregnant".

Did you ever find out who your dad is?

addy2hotty

04-11-2011, 04:41 PM

Not the greatest comeback.

Rock Bottom

04-11-2011, 04:57 PM

Morrison just tweeted a little bit too, he should just shut up, lol.

I'm just completely perplexed now. If Trish tried to hug me I'd probably get wood.

CSL

04-11-2011, 08:26 PM

Never been a fan at all except for when he first came in as Bischoff's lackey, don't like his 'flailing' offence, his gear, his blandness and the stuff with Melina was just kind of like 'come on guy', almost can't take him seriously. Still holding out hope he 'gets past' that stuff, he can do some amazing shit athletically, has great matches at times and is clearly liked by a lot of people.

Aguakate

04-11-2011, 08:28 PM

It's one thing to have heat with "the guys", but when they don't respect you as a MAN...

...when VINCE MCMAHON does not respect you AS A MAN...

...that's tough.

teamXtremist

04-11-2011, 09:10 PM

so just how did morrison allow melina to bang batista

SlickyTrickyDamon

04-12-2011, 12:22 AM

Rock Bottom

04-12-2011, 12:28 AM

Melina can have it both ways.

Rock Bottom

04-12-2011, 12:29 AM

"Go out there and job to R Truth after he's already wrestled a match. You like sloppy seconds anyway. You make me sick, get out of my office."

Jura

04-12-2011, 01:31 AM

If Batista wants to drop a Batista Bomb on a diva then Batista is gonna do that. No questions asked.

Jura

04-12-2011, 01:35 AM

This thread has been...

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Tom Guycott

04-12-2011, 07:35 AM

I could see Morrison and Melina being swingers.

That explains the MNM theme sounding like hardcore porn music and why Mercury was around as long as he was.

I don't get it. He acts polite and professional about Melina having sex with Batista and he's chastised. Matt Hardy flips the fuck out about it and he gets fired.

Also explains a lot. Adam C. cheats on his wife by sleeping with Matt Hardy's girl and he gets to retire as a World Champion.

The moral of the story is: you only get anywhere by being an ultramale stereotype. Anything else gets you buried.

GoneFishing

04-12-2011, 10:15 AM

I don't get it. He acts polite and professional about Melina having sex with Batista and he's chastised. Matt Hardy flips the fuck out about it and he gets fired.

Also explains a lot. Adam C. cheats on his wife by sleeping with Matt Hardy's girl and he gets to retire as a World Champion.

The moral of the story is: you only get anywhere by being an ultramale stereotype. Anything else gets you buried.

I'm starting to think Matt Hardy didn't flip the fuck out hard enough. Vince seems to be a fan of real life angles. If Matt Hardy picked a locker room fight with Edge and told Vince to go fuck himself, maybe Matt would have a week long world title reign.

StevieA79

04-13-2011, 07:12 AM

Morrison is a pussy for not dumping Melina and confronting Dave and in Vinces eyes that's more than enough proof of a lack of testicular fortitude!

I mean come on I don't care how big a guy is I will slap you in the face and confront you on something like that I wouldn't care about what would happen next.

In wrestling you really have to stand up for yourself or the boys in the back won't respect you.

I agree with Vince on Morrison he really doesn't come across as a guy who looks like a legit competitor at least not at main event level, Miz at least looks as though he is capable of standing up for himself but Morrison seems the complete opposite and his wrestling style is although impressive and flashy is probably a big part of that inability to get over with the people he really needs to get over with such as Vince or Triple H these days.

I respect the guy and think he's a good performer, his style needs tweaking and he needs a change of look in my opinion to get to the next level. No matter how many insane bumps the guy takes he's not going to make it unless he changes and begins to regain Vinces respect IF he can ever do it.

For a guy that let's his girl who he is DATING sleep with another WWE superstar and let's them BOTH get away with it, then he stands up for the same girl when she misses out on the Wrestlemania event. Even though Melina hasn't stepped her game up at all or improved since she debuted in the WWE many years ago.. She only has herself to blame for all of this..

Any girl even thinks about sleeping with another guy for me it's game over it shouldn't even come into the girls mind it's bullshit.

Sheiky baby let him know how you feel..

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Rammsteinmad

04-13-2011, 08:49 AM

I mean come on I don't care how big a guy is I will slap you in the face and confront you on something like that I wouldn't care about what would happen next.

I don't believe you.

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James Steele

04-13-2011, 08:54 AM

StevieA, I hope you wouldn't be a big enough bitch to slap him. Take some advice from a wise old man...

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StevieA79

04-13-2011, 10:20 AM

Batista would sell that bitch slap like a pro look

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Also when it comes to personal matters like that I will bitch slap you son! Consequences don't really come into it.

James the song actually said sometimes you have to whoop a man's ass what I got from that is there's a time to back down and there's a time to stand up and be a man. This was one of those times!

What kind of woman is Melina anyway to want to jump on Batistas dick when she's seeing Morrison? How any woman can justify that I will never know because it sure as fuck wouldn't work the other way around 9 times out of 10.

Rammsteinmad

04-13-2011, 10:32 AM

Because nobody here really knows anything about the situation more than Morrison, Melina and Batista, which is why I'm not judging anyone on it. Maybe they'd only just got together and were swinging at the time. Maybe Morrison just legitimately didn't give a shit.

But one of my life goals now is to see StevieA79 slap someone like Batista. :naughty:

Next Big Thing

04-13-2011, 11:12 AM

Letting guys bang your girlfriend and not make a fuss might make you "liked" but it won't get you "respected."

CSL

04-13-2011, 06:46 PM

CSL

04-13-2011, 06:49 PM

lol just watched a slowed down version of that and he's smiling right before taking the 'headbutt'

The Naitch

04-13-2011, 07:09 PM

It was pretty obvious that he avoided Trish in the post-match celebrations and treated her like shit - and frankly, considering she's achieved more than he or his horse-faced girlfriend have so far, he should know better and accept his place at the bottom of the barrel.

so what's this about? How come Morrison has heat with Trish? Since when did Melina have heat with Trish? :?:

CSL

04-13-2011, 07:17 PM

The story goes something like Melina thought the spot Trish had should have gone to her or something. And Morrison hasn't really done anything to dispel the rumours/has kind of fueled the fire a bit on Twitter since. Which could be him dicking around or may actually lend credence to the whole thing. He's acting like an idiot if it's true.

The Naitch

04-13-2011, 07:17 PM

John Morrison is a constant reminder to all of us that in life, nice guys do finish last.

CSL

04-13-2011, 07:21 PM

Farq that noise

Theo Dious

04-13-2011, 07:58 PM

I don't get it. He acts polite and professional about Melina having sex with Batista and he's chastised. Matt Hardy flips the fuck out about it and he gets fired.

So, what was Jomo supposed to do about it? Flip the fuck out right around the same time Matt Hardy was fired for the same thing? Come on you can't have it both ways.

Matt Hardy dragged the thing public and basically dropped trou on the matter for the world to see. I think the kind of confrontation Vince would have wanted in the Morrison/Batista situation is more of standing right up to him and saying "that's MY woman, you keep your damn hands off of her."

Theo Dious

04-13-2011, 07:58 PM

Or at least telling Melina "you want to fuck him? We're done then."

Aguakate

04-13-2011, 08:02 PM

John Morrison is a constant reminder to all of us that in life, nice guys do finish last.

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The Naitch

04-13-2011, 08:18 PM

Aguakate

04-13-2011, 08:27 PM

The thing is if JoMo started standing up for himself, he'd look stupid anyways, and Batista would probably laugh at him. So it's really a lose/lose situation. Once you're labeled as "the nice guy' it's hard to lose that stigma. Unless JoMo did some crazy psycho explosion type shit at Batista.\

It's like that kid who is a loser in high school that everyone takes advantage of (ie. He's rich and he lets' everyone party at his house. He's got a nice car and the girl he's with is only with him because of that. Everyone is cool with him just because he has certain things). But once he starts complaining about people messing up his living room and tries to be all tough about it, people will still not take him seriously. You know?

Yeah, it's a tough situation...it's not as easy as confronting Batista (who is/was heavily backed by Triple H, and I also get the feeling he is/was backed heavily by Vince and "the office") or Melina (which would then, if you had no actual proof, make you look like a jealous fool...heck, you'd look bad even if you DID have proof)...he could've gotten in trouble either way, so...

...I don't know...it's tough.

CSL

04-13-2011, 08:36 PM

If he values his high-paying, high-exposure, dream job over his missus, I don't blame him at all for not kicking off. It's playing the game almost, it's part of succeeding. He doesn't have to be nice to him, act like nothing has happened or even pretend he doesn't mind to work in the same company as Batista, Booker T proved this and then some. But you've gotta be 'lol in a bit' to the bird in that situation. There's no excuse for allowing yourself to look like a bitch on both ends, especially in something as cut-throat as professional wrestling.

The Naitch

04-13-2011, 09:17 PM

If I was JoMo, I would just secretely politick to get Melina buried, while smiling to her face the whole time. Watch my career go uphill (to the best that I can) and continue to watch Melina get buried week in week out. Tell Vince how you really feel about Melina.

No point in trying to go after Batista in a direct manner; the real problem lies with the missus. Keep your friends close, enemies closer_style

I would even go as far as to start a fling with Trish or another Diva just to piss her off. Give her a taste of her own medicine.

If not, he's an idiot for still wanting to be with her.

Kane Knight

04-13-2011, 09:25 PM

It's one thing to have heat with "the guys", but when they don't respect you as a MAN...

...when VINCE MCMAHON does not respect you AS A MAN...

...that's tough.

Maybe Morrison needs a little lesson from Linkara....

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Emperor Smeat

04-13-2011, 09:54 PM

What if Morrison decided not to fight back due to lack of connections with management and the top tier wrestlers like Batista had at the time (ex. friends with Triple H, constant pushes when needed).

If he got into a fight, the WWE might have favored Batista over Morrison if it meant someone had to get fired because Batista has enough friends to help him and his status of being a main eventer compared to Morrison at the time.

Kennedy got fired from the WWE for hurting Orton even though Orton was as sloppy in the tag match but Orton had the backing of a few wrestlers to help him in the dispute.

Volare

04-13-2011, 11:21 PM

What Would Kevin Do?

04-13-2011, 11:30 PM

You know, it seems like ole Val Venis sure does have an opinion about every little fricking thing.

Volare

04-13-2011, 11:32 PM

But his rants are pretty good and have valid points.

SaskatchewanChamp

04-13-2011, 11:35 PM

Val Venis is an insignificant little tape worm. Spurting is moot and invalid points, just proving to the world he is a bitter cunt.

What Would Kevin Do?

04-13-2011, 11:36 PM

Still, I feel like he's just out there for attention at this point. I mean, yeah, JoMo snubbed Trish, we get it. Really though, who gives a shit about who his girlfriend has slept with? If he doesn't care, why should other people be making a huge deal about it.

The Naitch

04-13-2011, 11:42 PM

lol at Val

Volare

04-13-2011, 11:48 PM

I wonder how Knox's epic beard worked out...

Rock Bottom

04-14-2011, 12:03 AM

Val is going the fuck off, ahahaha.

Volare

04-14-2011, 12:05 AM

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http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/5300000/Backstage-Beauties-Melina-wwe-divas-5398286-316-390.jpg

I don't see it.

Mr. C

04-15-2011, 03:30 PM

Why not go with the story how Melina was pissed about WrestleMania and Morrison was a dick toward Trish Stratus? Have them come out for a few weeks complaining and turn Morrison. That would be brilliant as a storyline.

Craig T. Nelson

04-15-2011, 03:40 PM

Morley has more talent than Morrison.

The Naitch

04-16-2011, 01:30 PM

Mr. Nerfect

04-17-2011, 04:31 AM

It'd be a tough situation to be in. I imagine it'd be hard to have a girl on the road with you. Especially if she's a whingy little bitch. I imagine a lot of the Divas are expected to be sort of be relaxed around the boys, if you catch my drift, and taking one off the market would probably get "Well, I'm gonna fuck her anyway because I take that bitch" reactions. Especially from the boys higher-up who have backing from management and such.

If Morrison had fought Batista, he'd have heat on him for attacking a top star, and people would just bitch about his attitude and such. He probably thought he was doing the right thing by keeping quiet. Fuck, to be honest, I'd have broken up with Melina, and there are plenty of other Divas who would be itching for a turn at JoMo -- the dude might just not give a fuck.

But this whole "can't win a fight" thing is ridiculous. The guy is ripped as all hell, and pretty fucking athletic. Didn't he also do kung fu or something? I'd buy John Morrison as a legit tough guy, actually. But I also think his attitude is probably a bit more breezy, especially when it comes to girls and such. But the WWE is filled with testosterone, ideas of how men should act like the men before them all the time, and carny codes and such. I bet there have been instances of guys being pressured to cheat on their girlfriends with other guys girlfriends and shit in the past.

04-17-2011, 05:16 AM

yah cause I'm sure if Batista fucked any of your girlfriends, you would all step up and try to fight Batista. Rightttttttt. Good god you guys are homo's. Please shut the fuck up.

Rammsteinmad

04-17-2011, 06:16 AM

StevieA79 would. :naughty:

Mjdiesel

04-17-2011, 09:48 AM

Interesting for Vince to talk about fighting when he's the one advocating that the "wrestling" part be de-emphasized in his product's name.

Hypocritical asshole much?

Kane Knight

04-17-2011, 10:12 AM

Interesting for Vince to talk about fighting when he's the one advocating that the "wrestling" part be de-emphasized in his product's name.

Hypocritical asshole much?

That's not hypocrisy. Try again.

Xero

04-17-2011, 10:27 AM

StevieA79

04-17-2011, 10:51 AM

StevieA79 would. :naughty:

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BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH!

That's what I would say to Dancing Dave!

Also while I am here..

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