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#1-wwf-fan
04-26-2011, 04:29 AM
Since the Raw thread is closed for whatever reason, I guess I've gotta make this about something thread-worthy.

Cena got drafted to Smackdown which made all the Smackdown stars ecstatic. Mark Henry then became part of Smackdown and the first thing he did was single-handedly cost Smackdown the biggest star in the company.

Seems like this is leading to a Mark Henry vs. the world storyline where everyone in the Smackdown locker room hates and resents him for him costing the show Cena. And probably a main storyline of Mark Henry vs. Teddy Long.

It could be a good way to use Henry. I like it. If that was the reason for Cena's double-draft, then it makes total sense. I say give it a couple weeks to see if that's what they're doing before we say "What the fuck was the point???"

Lara Emily
04-26-2011, 04:34 AM
Whooo pushing Mark Henry that'll put butts in the seats

Noid
04-26-2011, 04:37 AM
I think Henry will just be all "I see all these punks changing brands with a smile on their face. I'm sick of smiling, my time is now. I'm the Silverback! Rawr!"

Tom Guycott
04-26-2011, 04:58 AM
I, for one, like that idea (return of the Silverback gimmick... hurting everyone because it was fun and because he could), and I know I'm in the minority...
but let's just see how long it lasts (if it starts at all) until it's derailed.

Happens every time for Mark. 1) pushed as big monster heel - 2) push goes away - 3) he goes away - 4) turns face on return - 5) gets over a bit as a face - 6) inexplicably turns heel and starts back at 1.

Lara Emily
04-26-2011, 05:13 AM
It's the circle of Mark Henry.

Dave Youell
04-26-2011, 05:30 AM
I never thought I'd say this a few years ago. I quite like Mark Henry

Shadrick
04-26-2011, 06:50 AM
Since the Raw thread is closed for whatever reason, I guess I've gotta make this about something thread-worthy.

Cena got drafted to Smackdown which made all the Smackdown stars ecstatic. Mark Henry then became part of Smackdown and the first thing he did was single-handedly cost Smackdown the biggest star in the company.

Seems like this is leading to a Mark Henry vs. the world storyline where everyone in the Smackdown locker room hates and resents him for him costing the show Cena. And probably a main storyline of Mark Henry vs. Teddy Long.

It could be a good way to use Henry. I like it. If that was the reason for Cena's double-draft, then it makes total sense. I say give it a couple weeks to see if that's what they're doing before we say "What the fuck was the point???"

Lemme tell you something about the bolded part above.

You see, this logic makes sense. Being that this is a weekly episodic television show, you would think the IWC would wait and see how things play out before calling it a "horrible decision" and "terrible writing." No. They piss and moan, bitch and complain minutes after the show aired and say "Wow, what a fuckin stupid move i hate wwe rawr."

Sadly, this will never change.

HBPunk
04-26-2011, 07:08 AM
Mark Henry fucking sucks, no way will they do anything noteworthy with him on smackdown. Any heel push he gets will once again fade away after a month or two and he will return as a face next november or some shit. This guy has been in the WWF/E for 15 years and did anyone hear the pop he got last night from the hot crowd in the main event match?? Lets just say it was dwarfed by Eve's pop when she removed her Raw shirt. Nobody, but nobody could give a fuck about Mark Henry. He hasn't mattered one bit since he was spunking rubber hands out of an 80 year old woman and that was nothing to do with his wrestling ability. I think he used to lift cars for money on Smackdown too and thats about all he's done in the business. The guy fucking sucks

Tom Guycott
04-26-2011, 07:26 AM
Lemme tell you something about the bolded part above.

You see, this logic makes sense. Being that this is a weekly episodic television show, you would think the IWC would wait and see how things play out before calling it a "horrible decision" and "terrible writing." No. They piss and moan, bitch and complain minutes after the show aired and say "Wow, what a fuckin stupid move i hate wwe rawr."

Sadly, this will never change.

"YOUR WRONG!!1! SPLITTING UP MORRISON AND MIZ WAS A STUPID IDEA. SO WAS BREAKING UP LEGACY RHODES WILL NVR AMMOUNT TO N E THING TRUTH SUX AND HE NEEDS A HEEL TURN HE TURNED HEEL AND NOW HE SUX, AND ZIGGLER'S HAIR ZOMG..."

Did I miss anything? ^_^

My only problem with this (topic) is that it has potential to be big, but more often than not, leads nowhere in a few weeks. Kinda like a D-Lo return. Or the Honk-A-Meter.

#1-wwf-fan
04-26-2011, 07:44 AM
Whether it fails or succeeds, whether you enjoy or hate Mark Henry, if that's where they're going with it, then the angle tonight makes sense.

And by the way, for the "Mark Henry sucks and shouldn't be getting a push" people. I think there are very few talents that I have seen that are absolutely unpushable. I can't even really think of any at the moment. When Mark Henry came to Raw as a face and beat Orton and started working the crowd with that "Stand and cheer, now sit down and be silent" arm motion thing, he was on his way to something special. The ball may have been dropped but he had the crowd in the palm of his hands. They were eating it up. He found his nitch. He is... pushable.

#1-wwf-fan
04-26-2011, 07:48 AM
Also, I have some faith in Smackdown getting it right. Raw would surely ruin it but I'll give Smackdown a chance.

HBPunk
04-26-2011, 08:20 AM
And by the way, for the "Mark Henry sucks and shouldn't be getting a push" people. I think there are very few talents that I have seen that are absolutely unpushable. I can't even really think of any at the moment. When Mark Henry came to Raw as a face and beat Orton and started working the crowd with that "Stand and cheer, now sit down and be silent" arm motion thing, he was on his way to something special. The ball may have been dropped but he had the crowd in the palm of his hands. They were eating it up. He found his nitch. He is... pushable.

If a 400lb black guy shouted at me to stand up or sit down id probly do it too.

Seriously tho, i recall raw going to a break once before and Henry was trying that gesture thingy in the ring and about 4 people were responding to it. Shouting at fans one week doesn't a push make

#1-wwf-fan
04-26-2011, 08:26 AM
He did it a few weeks in a row... and I think it was the 2nd week he did it that he started doing it before the commercial, they came back and he was still doing it and the entire crowd was still playing along.

SlickyTrickyDamon
04-26-2011, 08:26 AM
Teddy Long used to be Mark Henry's manager playah. Thugging and Bugging Enterprises dawg.

HBPunk
04-26-2011, 08:54 AM
He did it a few weeks in a row... and I think it was the 2nd week he did it that he started doing it before the commercial, they came back and he was still doing it and the entire crowd was still playing along.

ok so it worked for him for two weeks, not one week. thats so awesome. it failed soon after anyway. stop going on like mark henry is worthwhile

Heisenberg
04-26-2011, 09:08 AM
Truth heel turn>Henry heel turn

Rammsteinmad
04-26-2011, 09:10 AM
Yeah come on TPWW, some of you like Mark Henry, and that's fine, but come on get serious. We seem to have the whole Mark Henry debate at least once a year, and nothing ever happens. I don't see this going anywhere.

djoutcry
04-26-2011, 10:27 AM
damn mark is soft - (he bursts into tears when he talks about his weight problem)

http://vids.wwe.com/11856/wwecom-exclusive-mark-henry-reac

notes:
= the crowd doesnt cheer when he cries, they were cheering when Big Show got drafted
= mark flinches when big shows pyro goes off
= mark refers himself to be a "seasonal wrestler" instead of "superstar"

Xero
04-26-2011, 10:56 AM
Henry says he was a champion on SmackDown!. What?

JimmyMess
04-26-2011, 11:02 AM
I guess he's referring to Smackdown as Smackdown/ECW when he was ECW Champion

BigDaddyCool
04-26-2011, 11:06 AM
So what happened?

I don't have cable.

LuigiD
04-26-2011, 11:14 AM
Still surreal to me that Mark Henry fought the Undertaker at Wrestlemania.

screech
04-26-2011, 11:16 AM
When Mark Henry came to Raw as a face and beat Orton and started working the crowd with that "Stand and cheer, now sit down and be silent" arm motion thing, he was on his way to something special.

WWE missed a golden opportunity for a great t-shirt there.

screech
04-26-2011, 11:18 AM
So what happened?

I don't have cable.

Six man tag main event: Cena/Henry/Christian (SD!) vs Miz/ADR/Punk (RAW)

Cena was building momentum when Henry came in, avalanched him & peaced. RAW won the match & Cena was drafted back.

djoutcry
04-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Still surreal to me that Mark Henry fought the Undertaker at Wrestlemania.

quite possibly one of the worst matches ever, in the worst gimmick match ever...imo

djoutcry
04-26-2011, 11:23 AM
Six man tag main event: Cena/Henry/Christian (SD!) vs Miz/ADR/Punk (RAW)

Cena was building momentum when Henry came in, avalanched him & peaced. RAW won the match & Cena was drafted back.

He also raped Christian in the process, Miz hit the skull crushing finale for the 1-2-3 and final draft pick.

Raw gets Cena back, cena gets back in the ring, 5 knuckle shuffle and AA on the miz, and then puts on Raw Tshirt, raw goes off the air

Wolfpack423
04-26-2011, 11:43 AM
Mark Henry fucking sucks, no way will they do anything noteworthy with him on smackdown. Any heel push he gets will once again fade away after a month or two and he will return as a face next november or some shit. This guy has been in the WWF/E for 15 years and did anyone hear the pop he got last night from the hot crowd in the main event match?? Lets just say it was dwarfed by Eve's pop when she removed her Raw shirt. Nobody, but nobody could give a fuck about Mark Henry. He hasn't mattered one bit since he was spunking rubber hands out of an 80 year old woman and that was nothing to do with his wrestling ability. I think he used to lift cars for money on Smackdown too and thats about all he's done in the business. The guy fucking sucks

Yeah I'll be the first to admit I am not a Mark Henry fan, but the guy has been there off and on since 1996 and has never been released. He is a staple in the company and I'd like to see him do something before he retires. Him as a heel works better. I hated Sexual Chocolate and his face gimmick. I thought his best time period was when he was ECW Champion.

Droford
04-26-2011, 11:44 AM
Teddy Long used to be Mark Henry's manager playah. Thugging and Bugging Enterprises dawg.

Bring back Rodney Mack

Wolfpack423
04-26-2011, 11:45 AM
quite possibly one of the worst matches ever, in the worst gimmick match ever...imo

I didn't think that was a bad match. There have been worse casket matches with Kama, Yokozuna, Kamala. The one with Henry wasn't as bad as people say. Compared to the matches he would have starting at 23-27 it just is looked at as really terrible.

Wolfpack423
04-26-2011, 11:48 AM
Truth heel turn>Henry heel turn

Definitely agree that Truth's heel turn is good. I'd like to see where it goes, but this is the first time I truly am cheering R-Truth, though I am a big Morrison fan too so it's a win-win. It would be great if Morrison won the triple threat and feuded with Truth over the WWE title.

#1-wwf-fan
04-26-2011, 04:07 PM
ok so it worked for him for two weeks, not one week. thats so awesome. it failed soon after anyway. stop going on like mark henry is worthwhile

... They dropped the gimmick...

Stop going on like Raw writers can do no wrong.

#1-wwf-fan
04-26-2011, 04:10 PM
And it's not like he's doing it in front of the same crowd every week. It was a crowd interaction thing that I guarantee, if they had kept it up, would still be working today. Crowds love being part of the show.

#1-wwf-fan
04-26-2011, 04:13 PM
Like I said, there are very few un-pushable guys. I've been witness to the fact that you can find a nitch for Mark Henry that makes him interesting. While it obviously takes a lot more work than it would to get a guy like The Rock over where you just hand him a mic and say "go", pretty much anyone on the roster is capable of being worthwhile.

Narcissus
04-26-2011, 04:44 PM
Why was the other thread closed? Yesterday will forever be known as DraftGate 2011.

#1-wwf-fan
04-26-2011, 05:35 PM
Because heated arguments are cause for threads being closed apparently.

Aguakate
04-26-2011, 05:37 PM
...It's crazy that Mark Henry has been with the WWE for, like, 15 years or something.

Narcissus
04-26-2011, 05:38 PM
Because heated arguments are cause for threads being closed apparently.

Or threads that cast Supreme in a negative light?

NOT MY OPINION, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO PONDER.

Narcissus
04-26-2011, 05:40 PM
Where is Heyman when you need him?

Tom Guycott
04-27-2011, 02:35 AM
Like I said, there are very few un-pushable guys...

... like Chris Masters, for example! :rimshot:

No, in all seriousness, he's terrible. And his whole gimmick centers around if he's on the gas or not.

Rock Bottom
04-27-2011, 07:48 AM
Was a total shoot and I'd do the same damn thing if I were Mark Henry.

MoFo
04-27-2011, 08:24 AM
Dunno, I think Mark Henry is pretty solid nowdays.

He was a good monster heel as ECW Champ.

Next Big Thing
04-27-2011, 11:54 AM
Having the wrestlers cheer for draft picks is retarded. If you're a heel on Smackdown or Raw, why would you cheer for Cena or Mysterio coming over to your brand? If you're a face on Raw, or even a self- absorbed character like Miz or Punk wouldn't you be pissed at Del Rio coming over?

It would be different if there was actual distinction between the brands and there was a rivalry for one to be better than the other, but that's not the case. We get shitty Bragging Rights once a year, but other than that the veil of distinction got taken off a long time ago.

If they do a Mark Hnery vs. the World type angle based on that it would be dumb as hell. I can't imagine Christian or Orton feuding with Mark Henry because he cost them Cena.

Theo Dious
04-27-2011, 12:01 PM
It's the circle of Mark Henry.

God dammit does that mean he's going to fuck Mae Young again?

Tommy Gunn
04-27-2011, 12:14 PM
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh246/ghostwooduk/mh.jpg

erickman
04-27-2011, 01:00 PM
I think Henry will just be all "I see all these punks changing brands with a smile on their face. I'm sick of smiling, my time is now. I'm the Silverback! Rawr!"

i think every draft mark switched shows, i think show switched every draft too. i guess that can make a story line.

CSL
04-27-2011, 01:34 PM
lol that thread getting closed. Benders.

DAMN iNATOR
04-27-2011, 01:40 PM
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Londoner
04-27-2011, 01:42 PM
Why is it whenever i miss Raw some weird shit happens? First R truth, now this....

Luckily i'll get to see the replay.

Aguakate
04-27-2011, 02:46 PM
...R-Truth and Mark Henry should team up and start another "all black heel stable".

Corndad
04-27-2011, 06:31 PM
Best part of the draft...

http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/kofihands.gif

#1-wwf-fan
04-27-2011, 07:05 PM
lol. Everyone's so out of character there. It's weird. Look at McEntyre and Del Rio especially.

Gonzo
04-27-2011, 08:29 PM
lol wtf