WWE SmackDown! Spoilers for 05/06/11

[Xero]

From PWInsider:

*World champion Christian comes out and talks about winning the title at Extreme Rules. Mark Henry and Great Khali come out and demand title shots. Randy Orton then comes out and says he wants a shot too. Teddy Long comes out and says that he will let the fans decide and the fans pick Orton. Long announces Christian vs. Orton for the title tonight.

*Backstage, Khali and Ranjin Singh run into Jinder Mahal, who says that it was interesting Singh let Khali dress up in a tutu on Raw.

*Sheamus defeated Daniel Bryan in a good match.

*Backstage, the Divas approach Layla and thank her for getting rid of Michelle McCool but tell her that they haven't forgotten how she treated them. Layla says Lay-Cool is officially over and everyone is going to see a new side of her.

*Cody Rhodes comes out and discusses his match at the Extreme Rules PPV. He has bags handed out to make the crowd wear them on his head.

*Ezekiel Jackson defeated The Big Show.

*Layla defeated Alicia Fox. Kharma comes out. Layla backs away. Fox kicks her. She tries to kick Kharma again but instead eats a clothesline. Kharma nailed her with the Implant Buster. The crowd chants for another. She teases it but leaves.

*The Corre attacked Ezekiel Jackson and laid him out backstage, saying that he couldn't just leave them.

*Sin Cara defeated Tyson Kidd. Chavo Guerrero was on commentary. Chavo shakes Cara's hand after the match.

*Backstage, Todd Grisham interviews Teddy Long and asked him if he thought it was unfair Christian has to defend the World title so soon. Long said it's not about being fair, it's about giving the fans what they want. Long said that Raw had a WWE title bout the day after Extreme Rules and he's going to make Smackdown just as exciting and unpredictable.

*Randy Orton pinned Christian to win the World title.

[VSG]

WHAT

[Xero]

lol most people are going to see the title of the thread and go "Oh fuck, Christian lost the title, didn't he?"

[VSG]

Lock Jaw is telling how he is going to jizz at Christian's party on Smackdown in the other thread :'(

[Xero]

How bout that new talent initiative?

Also, may as well make this the SD spoiler thread. BRB.

[VSG]

lol Bizarroking just posted the spoiler in the Christian victory thread :'(

[Xero]

This is now the SD spoiler thread.

[Inadequacy]

Well this is lame sauce

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol what a fucking joke

Basically proof that WWE never wanted Christian to win the belt but had no choice</font>

[VSG]

I like how Kharma is slowly and steadily getting more competition to her attacks.

[BizarroKing]

lol Bizarroking just posted the spoiler in the Christian victory thread :'(

What spoiler? :shifty:

[Xero]

In one week. Hell, in two fucking days, WWE managed to take both titles off legit rising stars, one of which is a long-term future for the company, and put it right back on the same old shit.

If they were going to do this, they should have just had Orton put into the match in the first place. Make it a battle royal or some shit at the PPV and not put it on Christian at all.

[Nicky Fives]

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[What Would Kevin Do?]

WOW.

I like Christian, but this isn't really about that. It just seems to be silly booking. I mean, I have no problem with Christian having a short reign, but why not use this as an oppertunity to build him up. Although I'm guessing that this may very well result in a Christian heel turn, which would be entertaining, and better for him.

[CSL]

Lock Jaw is telling how he is going to jizz at Christian's party on Smackdown in the other thread :'(

lollll this probably made me laugh more than anything on here in some time

[glanville6]

I'm so pissed. So super pissed off. Why? I'm glad he won it a few nights ago, but its so heartbreaking. I know its all a work obviously, but I was seriously never so excited for a wrestling moment, and to see he lost it 2 days later is heartbreaking.

Hope he turns heel, since they are lacking a top heel on that brand.

I should be glad he won it, and I am...but if he has an initial Kane 1 (in this case 2 day run) it makes it less important to me.

[Xero]

lol at Twitter. Two random ones from the past minute or so...

Ken_D_Blackwell @WWE If Christian doesn't get a rematch soon, there WILL be severe repercussions from the fans. Mark my words. MAKE THIS RIGHT OR ELSE.


Wolverine_L0gan @WWE HOW COULD YOU BE THAT CARELESS??? AFTER 13YRS CHRISTIAN BECOMES A MAJOR CHAMPION & YOU SCREW HIM OVER? #WWE DO I HEAR #TNA RETURN?

[CSL]

lol at Twitter. Two random ones from the past minute or so...

Ken_D_Blackwell @WWE If Christian doesn't get a rematch soon, there WILL be severe repercussions from the fans. Mark my words. MAKE THIS RIGHT OR ELSE.


Wolverine_L0gan @WWE HOW COULD YOU BE THAT CARELESS??? AFTER 13YRS CHRISTIAN BECOMES A MAJOR CHAMPION & YOU SCREW HIM OVER? #WWE DO I HEAR #TNA RETURN?

lol, especially that first one

[Mr. C]

Okay, you’ve got to be kidding me. So much for that. Shows you how much faith they have in him. I hate this.

They’re belittling the value of the title, not as if it wasn’t belittled enough.

[Tazz Dan]

Yeah this is pretty fucking stupid tbh. If they wanted a transitional champ they could have at least left the belt on him till the next PPV. I just don't see the point in this booking. And I'm not just saying this becuase it was Christian either.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

People, chill and see where they go with it. Christian has had pretty much NO character of his own since he's been back. He's had great matches, but he's just sort of been there. Maybe this will turn into, you know, an actual angle, that will give him a real character. He hasn't had a character since he's been back in the WWE. Good wrestler is not a gimmick.

Something will come of this.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Orton was always going to be the face of SmackDown. That's fine and dandy, and makes sense since the crowd goes apeshit for him week in and week out. He bores me personally, more so than Cena by a wide margin...but I'd never say it's a bad business decision.

I just think it's a bit daft to take the belt off Christian at the very first possible opportunity, essentially admitting he only won the belt to have a happy ending for Edge's retirement. Given the rather weak face scene on SmackDown, letting Christian hold it for a PPV or two while building up to the eventual Orton win wouldn't have hurt any, and would at least keep Christian in a position where he could be a credible challenger to plug into a main event down the line.

As such, now that he's lost the belt so quickly I don't really see how they can salvage anything main event worthy out of face Christian. He needs to go heel if he's going to be back in the main event, and I'd be all for it. The face scene on SmackDown is incredibly weak, but since Orton is going to be assuming the Batista role (either the champion or #1 contender no matter what), there isn't really a need for a proper #2 face on the brand.

So yeah. We all knew it was coming, I'm just shocked that it was this soon.</font>

[PorkSoda]

I also believe that this is fucking stupid. Seriously? He loses the title already?

Let me be the only optimistic one here, though.

The Undertaker won his first world title at Survivor Series 1991 and lost it six days later. And he went on to win the title multiple times. Even though he didn't get his second title run until 1997, he still got it.

Christian will get it back eventually.

[BLaZeR-]

Brilliant move on behalf of the WWE....take the title away from a guy who's busted his ass for 13 years, has great in ring and mic skills, and give it to a bland one dimensional JAG who can't outwork Hogan in a match.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE WORLD WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

On the plus side, at least Christian didn't get Backlund'd and drop the title at a house show.

[Corndad]

Wow. All I can say is wow.

I can see them maybe moving it off Christian in a month or so after the Edge stuff has worn off and if he wasn't getting the reactions they wanted but the next show? Really? Wow. I wouldn't say I'm as big a fan of Christian as some but he is solid. I mean I figured they would at least give him a "Benoit" title reign. A few month reign, maybe not always the Main Event but still holding the title.

I am curious how this is shown. If they show Christian as being weakened from Extreme Rules or what.

Hey at least they let Bryan wrestle on Smackdown.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

What in this hell is this about? I'd like some sort of explanation on why this happened. Seems a pretty cold move to a guy who busts his ass and doesn't wrestle the same boring ass match week after week. Randy got carried by CM Punk in their feud and now he's the World Champion?

Also why did they bother having him on Raw being congratulated by the The Rock if this was their plan? Did Christian get hurt at the PPV and won't be able to compete?

What was wrong with a Christian vs. Mark Henry feud? Nothing. It would have been great with the brand new champion hungry to prove himself facing a re-energized World's Strongest Man. Randy Vs. Mark Henry doesn't really do it for me. If it's Randy Vs. Cody Rhodes then it might be worth taking the title off of Christian.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Injured ribs or not, Christian dropping the title to a more over face is pretty much just a nice hot shit on his cred.

[Rock Bottom]

Good move, too soon.

Should have built it up. But we don't know what they have planned.

[legendkillerRKO]

Orton > Christian always....Edge told WWE when he leaves he wants his best tag team partner to win the title....obviously this is what he meant....

[Gertner]

You all knew Christian's reign would be short, since they kept throwing Edge out with him in hopes Edge's rub would get Christian over.

[CSL]

some internet message board voodoo going on here

[What Would Kevin Do?]

You noticed that too? Apparently some mod around here is more ambitious than I am.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I even did it all on a phone.

:cool:

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I even did it all on a phone.

:cool:

There are so many things I want to say in response to this. Instead, I will sum up my emotions as follows.

:wtf:



:love:

[GD]

I really do not like the way, the WWE is handling the World Heavyweight Championship since Kane won it last year. It's as if they are going to unify it with the WWE Championship and retire it.

[GD]

Not that I have anything against Kane.

[James Steele]

The Big Gold Belt is the greatest looking championship in the history of professional wrestling, and it better end up on the impeccable waist of Triple H one more time.

[GD]

No dude.

[James Steele]

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[James Steele]

IT JUST FEELS RIGHT!

[Shadrick]

Fuckin Steele.

[Londoner]

What the flying fuck.

[Londoner]

Where they go with this and how it plays off on tv is what's important now, but i don't have a good feeling about it. :(

[KIRA]

This sucks not,even a fucking week.

[St. Jimmy]

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[Lara Emily]

With Cena back as Champ, the Christian title run aborted and given to Orton, CM Punk floating in obscurity and on his way out, Sheamus and DBD being ignored and Wade Barrett basically just being left to rot. I'm pretty much inclined to go back to what I was doing between 2005-2010 reading results, watching if something catches my eye and yeah (which nothing really did until Nexus). Back to not watching I guess, ah well got a good 8 months out of it.

[Londoner]

With Cena back as Champ, the Christian title run aborted and given to Orton, CM Punk floating in obscurity and on his way out, Sheamus and DBD being ignored and Wade Barrett basically just being left to rot. I'm pretty much inclined to go back to what I was doing between 2005-2010 reading results, watching if something catches my eye and yeah (which nothing really did until Nexus). Back to not watching I guess, ah well got a good 8 months out of it.

A good 8 months of bitching*

[James Steele]

Great. Does this mean you will quit posting again, Lara?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Bring back Tomko, turn heel and fuck the title. I might actually watch Smackdown for entertainment value for once.

[#1-norm-fan]

I prefer Christian with the title. But Orton as champ on Smackdown is fresh. The main event scene on Smackdown is miles more creative than the one on Raw. I think this could make Orton interesting again.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Just read this on another spoiler site, dunno how legit it is though

"Orton celebrated and left after the match. Christian sat in the ring dejected as the fans chanted for him. After he went to the back, Orton returned to remind everyone that when they go home, remember he is the new World champion"

Does anyone else think that it sounds like Orton might be the one turning?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

If Orton turns though, Christian is the de-facto top face. Maybe my memory is failing me, but I can't see else in that role with Orton being heel. Unless they push Khali again.

[Swish]

The title win by Orton makes Christian’s World Title reign one of the shortest in WWE history at just two days.

I thought Kane's world title reign makes it the shortest in history?
Remember Kane beat Austin in a first blood match, then the following night 24 hours later Austin took his belt back on Raw :S...

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I thought Kane's world title reign makes it the shortest in history?
Remember Kane beat Austin in a first blood match, then the following night 24 hours later Austin took his belt back on Raw :S...

The title win by Orton makes Christian’s World Title reign one of the shortest in WWE history at just two days.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

If Orton turns though, Christian is the de-facto top face. Maybe my memory is failing me, but I can't see else in that role with Orton being heel. Unless they push Khali again.

Oh I agree that it doesn't seem to fit that they would turn Randy heel and leave Christian as the top face. Maybe it was just the way that report was worded.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Maybe they'll do it right and just push Orton as an arrogant bad-ass face. Screw the heelish beard, it would still work.

[Lara Emily]

Great. Does this mean you will quit posting again, Lara?


Just for you I'll keep going. :love:

[James Steele]

Just for you I'll keep going. :love:

I'm glad to know I inspire you to keep fighting in spite of it all.

[Lara Emily]

I'm glad to know I inspire you to keep fighting in spite of it all.


I meant posting not necessarily watching.

[James Steele]

I meant posting not necessarily watching.

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ALL OR NOTHING!!!

[Lara Emily]

Nah I'm gonna post just for you and TL, you'd miss our banter too much

[Rammsteinmad]

Damn. Sucks for Christian. :( Fucking hate WWE. :foc:

[Londoner]

Nah I'm gonna post just for you and TL, you'd miss our banter too much

I feel honoured.

Well, not really.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

WWE Bookers: the greatest heat machines of all time.

[Rock Bottom]

Thought Yoko had the shortest title reign anyway. Oh well.

I'm more disappointed that they blew a wad on Orton and Christian on a spoiler show. I would have liked to see that match in a PPV.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah Yoko, Andre, Cena, Ziggler, and Jeff Hardy all had 0 day reigns.

[The Jayman]

I have no comment

[Schlomey]

Christian pulled a Kane!? Not happy....

But lets talk about Chavo going face shaking Cara's hand...that's a headline.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh and Orton and Triple H did too.

[erickman]

so he was kaned, i heard a few years ago vince did not think he was right for a big push. this proves vince will never let him run with the ball.

[Nark Order]

I STILL REMEMBER

[VSG]

"Getting Kaned" is now a TPWW Fraze.

[Schlomey]

I shed a tear last night while finally getting to watch the PPV. This taints but doesn't totally ruin that moment :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>After having a night to think about it, it really just set in how brutally booked the main event scene has been in the last 2 years. I keep hearing about "creating new stars" and I just don't see it. I don't think this would be that of a deal if it was just Christian, but it's not. Most of the time somebody gets close to the main event, the WWE yanks it from them.

-Over the past two years we've had Mark Henry going over huge against Orton in his Raw return, looking like the next big thing, then absolutely nothing was done to capitalize and he became a jobber to the stars
-Kofi Kingston looked like he was going to be huge during his feud with Orton, with the MSG beatdown, and going over both Punk and Orton at Survivor Series, then he lost the blow-off and disappeared.
-Sheamus came in like a house of fire, winning the title twice and establishing himself as a top heel on Raw, only to go on a losing streak and pretty much become just another midcarder.
-Swagger won the title, beat Orton mostly cleanly, was feuding with the Big Show, then the vegetative state storyline took over and he ended up fighting Chris Masters on Superstars a bunch of times.
-Wade Barrett was the centerpiece of the biggest, most promising storyline WWE has done in years, and around November Barrett vs Cena looked like it could easily headline Wrestlemania. Then the Nexus were promptly made to look like huge jokes who never had a chance of playing with the big boys, the Corre looked even worse, and Barrett ended up wrestling a 90 second 8 man tag.
-They can still right the ship with Alberto Del Rio, but it's close to sailing. His opening feud with Rey was a logical starting point and the subsequent buildup to his "destiny" was brilliantly done. But where is he after Mania and Extreme Rules? Right back where he started, feuding with Rey again. The eventual Cena/Del Rio feud can be fun, and finally winning the belt would help to solidify him as a solid main eventer even if he loses it back within a few months. But it seems like Cena is bound to hold the belt until close to Mania to build to the Cena/Rock match potentially being for the title.

About the only bona fide main event success story that comes to mind in the last couple of years is The Miz. If nothing else, he'll always have a lengthy WWE Title reign and a WM main event (and win) under his belt. But even at that, I can't help but wonder what they will do with him once his feud with Cena ends.

I'm not saying these guys would have made it to the Orton/Cena elite level, but there is no reason why a few of them couldn't be viewed as legitimate main eventers who could be believably plugged into the WWE or WHW title pictures on a dime. Because the WWE has incredibly cold feet, none of them were given the chance to sink or swim. Now I haven't seen SmackDown yet obviously, and I don't know what the plans are for the next week/month are, but history suggests that Christian had his cup of coffee with the title and will be shunted back to the midcard.

I understand that Cena and Orton are the two most over guys in the company, and I'm fine with them nearly always being in the title picture. But those reports of WWE wanting to fill the voids left by Taker and Triple H just seems like a total crock. It seems that WWE feel that since Cena and Orton are 34 and 31, respectively - there are still plenty of miles in the tank and thus there is no need to try and create any legitimate main eventers. There may not be a proper influx of new main eventers until they are getting close to retiring.

And that ends a rare "Noid post" from me.</font>

[Brigstocke]

Has anyone considered the idea that Christian may have had a 'major title' clause in his contract and will now leave?

Thus making my pick of him on the Pink Slip Pool a stroke of genius.

[Schlomey]

I actually read that entire thing. Agree mostly.

[Mr. JL]

ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE WORLD W ENTERTAINMENT!

[Lara Emily]

Brilliant post Vito

[DAMN iNATOR]

Great...the one thing WWE has going for it, they ruin in...5 days?!:wtf::nono:

Can't wait to see all the wrestling conspiracists come out now and say, "See told ya! Gonna be Orton v. Cena to unify the titles." Just know there's someone out there who will insist that this is the case.

Hopefully, this will build to a rematch at Over The Limit and maybe we could see a 2nd, more lengthy title run for Christian, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Probably just VKM's way of saying to the Peeps "there, I fuckin' did it, OK? I let him hold the title, now fuck off!"

[XL]

They could go with Christian feeling he has been conspired against and slowly turning heel. Or they could play a "Tasted glory for a moment only to have it taken away" angle and have Christian go back after the title as a face. Dunno.

Only thing I'm looking forward to on SD! is to see what the reaction to Christian is like after he loses. The report said the fans were chanting his name. Wanna see how loud that is or if that gets edited out entirely.

My guess would be that Orton got the title as "payment" for going to SmackDown. He sure didn't seemed thrilled with the move when he came out at the draft.

Really no idea where they are gonna take this. Just crossing fingers that it leads somewhere.

[Haze]

I am going to try and remain positive and not lose my shit over this move.

http://www.wwe.com/f/ep/image/2011/04/20110501_er_christian3_r.jpg

Congrats to Christian - The 11th Grand Slam Champion

Still happened.

[Fox]

So was it a clean win for Orton? And did it make Christian look like a bitch in the process, or did he atleast come close to retaining his title?

This is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. He JUST won the thing. This isn't like hot-shotting the title from Austin-to Kane-back to Austin or Austin-to Mankind-to Triple H. This is just senseless booking. Christian is over with the crowd, he's been working toward this moment for years and years, and when he finally wins the title in a moment that can be see as him finally reaching the pinnacle of success in the shadow of his "brother's" retirement, they fucking snatch it right back out of his hands.

I'm really hoping that this leads to a Christian heel turn where he becomes obsessed with winning the World Title back and is willing to do anything to get it. A heel Christian against a tweener Orton could be some good shit, supposing that it does lead to Christian regaining the belt. But as things stand right now, I think this is a pretty bullshit turn of events and a slap in the face of Christian and all of his fans.

[Haze]

So was it a clean win for Orton? And did it make Christian look like a bitch in the process, or did he atleast come close to retaining his title?

This is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. He JUST won the thing. This isn't like hot-shotting the title from Austin-to Kane-back to Austin or Austin-to Mankind-to Triple H. This is just senseless booking. Christian is over with the crowd, he's been working toward this moment for years and years, and when he finally wins the title in a moment that can be see as him finally reaching the pinnacle of success in the shadow of his "brother's" retirement, they fucking snatch it right back out of his hands.

I'm really hoping that this leads to a Christian heel turn where he becomes obsessed with winning the World Title back and is willing to do anything to get it. A heel Christian against a tweener Orton could be some good shit, supposing that it does lead to Christian regaining the belt. But as things stand right now, I think this is a pretty bullshit turn of events and a slap in the face of Christian and all of his fans.

Really interested to see how this plays out before I get all bent out of shape, but I feel ya.

[addy2hotty]

Bullshit.

That is all.

[Jordan]

Let's all be honest here.... Christian is like Skid Marks mixed with Chris Benoit. He is an amazing wrestler who always impresses and knows TONS of really great moves, and on the flip side he sells like Carnie, or Skid Marks. That's why he isn't the champ right now because nobody REALLY believes he could kick anyone's ass. He's not cut, big, intimidating in any way, AND he totally over acts sometimes. I think WWE is making great choices for their business these days and Orton does make a bigger Champion than Christian.

Now with WWE making good choices I am holding out hope that this instance forces Christian to depths he has never gone to before. We all know he is a phenominal heel and had a great feud with Cena several years ago before departing for lesser pastures. If this angle is to work out a sping/summer Orton/Christian feud, I don't think Smackdown! could get much hotter. They are desperately in need of a top heel and while Rhodes is good he's just not there yet, Christian however is more than capable. Remember Punk guiding Orton through their various matches over the past months, just imagine how Christian could lead Orton as well, especially considering his matches with Del Rio.


Let's just hope for the best, don't jump the gun yet, WWE isn't as foolish as they used to be, just chill and see what happens here.

[James Steele]

They could go with Christian feeling he has been conspired against and slowly turning heel. Or they could play a "Tasted glory for a moment only to have it taken away" angle and have Christian go back after the title as a face. Dunno.

Only thing I'm looking forward to on SD! is to see what the reaction to Christian is like after he loses. The report said the fans were chanting his name. Wanna see how loud that is or if that gets edited out entirely.

My guess would be that Orton got the title as "payment" for going to SmackDown. He sure didn't seemed thrilled with the move when he came out at the draft.

Really no idea where they are gonna take this. Just crossing fingers that it leads somewhere.

So was it a clean win for Orton? And did it make Christian look like a bitch in the process, or did he atleast come close to retaining his title?

This is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. He JUST won the thing. This isn't like hot-shotting the title from Austin-to Kane-back to Austin or Austin-to Mankind-to Triple H. This is just senseless booking. Christian is over with the crowd, he's been working toward this moment for years and years, and when he finally wins the title in a moment that can be see as him finally reaching the pinnacle of success in the shadow of his "brother's" retirement, they fucking snatch it right back out of his hands.

I'm really hoping that this leads to a Christian heel turn where he becomes obsessed with winning the World Title back and is willing to do anything to get it. A heel Christian against a tweener Orton could be some good shit, supposing that it does lead to Christian regaining the belt. But as things stand right now, I think this is a pretty bullshit turn of events and a slap in the face of Christian and all of his fans.

Really interested to see how this plays out before I get all bent out of shape, but I feel ya.

I agree with y'all on this potentially being something good, but time will tell. Christian's world title run was just like Mysterio's sympathy run after Eddie's death. Edge had to retire so they put the belt on Christian out of sympathy and the emotional connection with Christian created by the Edge situation. At least he dropped the belt to an established star and didn't have to go through the horrible run Mysterio did. I do believe that this is horrible decision because Christian can be very entertaining and would have been interested to see what he could have done with a decent reign as champion, but there is still potential that this is the start of a much needed Heel turn for Christian or a program with him being the mega-face chasing the dastardly Orton who might be turning heel.

[Xero]

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[jskinnyg]

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I hate this CRAP as much as everyone else... I am a huge Christian mark...

But this shit above is funny... :rofl::rofl:

[Ultra Mantis]

Christian losing the belt isn't actually such a horrible thing for him, hes either going to become even more over as a face because the fans want to see him get the belt back (especially if Orton turns heel, making him THE undisputed top babyface on the show) or hes going to turn heel and steal it back from Orton.

Sure it would have been nice if he held it for a while longer but this is very likely to build him up either way, while feuding with Mark Henry would have just been total filler before Orton got him. I wouldnt be surprised if Randy did turn since he's stated numerous times he prefers being a heel anyway.

[CSL]

beard powerrr clean

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[CSL]

listen to all of those unhappy fans

[DAMN iNATOR]

Allow me to just say this on behalf of WWE fans everywhere: FUCK YOU, VINCENT KENNEDY McMAHON!"

That is all.

[CSL]

listen to all of those unhappy fans

[VSG]

Can't top DAMN iNATOR, can we?

[MoFo]

This is just senseless booking. Christian is over with the crowd,...

Orton is x10 over with the crowd.

[Splaya]

Ya know, I dont mind this. This isn't the Orton mark in me talking either. This is the fact that for the longest time I have liked Christian as a competitor. But it's time to turn him heel. He's awful as a face

[Lock Jaw]

Gonna go cry in the shower while listening to Xtian's theme on a loop.

[CSL]

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I was going to post it for strictly comic effect but judging by some of the vids on Youtube I've seen from the mutants about Christian, this would be quite tame

[JimmyMess]

i had to laugh when i read the spoilers.

[Lock Jaw]

Gonna be walking like this all day

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[jskinnyg]

Orton is x10 over with the crowd.

Yeah listen to the video before WWE takes it down... Orton is WAY over still...

[jskinnyg]

Gonna be walking like this all day

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Awesome... HA!

[JimmyMess]

As much as this sucks, it doesn't affect him... I mean strap or no strap the paycheck stays the same and reads "Jason Reso" not Christian.

[Fignuts]

How about we all calm the fuck down and see where they are going with this.

[Londoner]

How about we all calm the fuck down and see where they are going with this.

I already said that on page 2.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You know, for as disappointing as this might be for some of you, Christian's still better off this week than he was last week. Former world champion is a pretty good resume booster.

[The Naitch]

Pretty funny though if you think about it.

I was expecting it to say "just kidding" after the main event spoiler. I guess not

[DAMN iNATOR]

You know, for as disappointing as this might be for some of you, Christian's still better off this week than he was last week. Former world champion is a pretty good resume booster.

Yeah, how DARE we be so greedy and expect Christian's first title run to last a whole month or two? :roll:

[The Gold Standard]

I never thought Christian would ever win the WWE/World Title. The reason, I never thought Vince saw him as a World Champion. I guess I was right. I could not stop laughing when I saw the results.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah, how DARE we be so greedy and expect Christian's first title run to last a whole month or two? :roll:

I'm sorry. Did my positive outlook offend you?

[The Naitch]

Orton was probably bitching all week that he had to go to Smackdown! so he had a talk with Vince demanding the title, (Shawn Michaels circa 1996_style). Orton has Vince by the balls. He'll do whatever he can to get his way. Just like how he got Kennedy fired :lol:

I wanna see Christian come out and call out Teddy Long for making that match "just because he wanted to one-up RAW" for having a WWE Title match on Monday. Then have Christian beat down Teddy Long. I wonder if that'll be good enough to turn heel. Is Teddy a big enough babyface to have the fans turn on Christian?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Orton had a match at the PPV too. Not really an argument, BOYEE.

[Emperor Smeat]

Assuming this is true, don't expect Christian to win back the title or have any hope of a lengthy future reign. It looks like the WWE wants Orton to become the "Cena" of Smackdown.

... To begin with, as we exclusively reported several days ago, Randy Orton is set to become the focal point of the Smackdown brand, and the entire Friday night show will be centered around him from both a marketing and creative standpoint. Orton's position on Smackdown can be compared to John Cena's position on Raw, as WWE looks at both talents as the creative centers of their respective brands.

Additionally, we were told that Christian's title win at Extreme Rules was done not so much as a "well deserved win for Christian," but much more so that a big moment could be made for Edge at the PPV. "Vince [McMahon] could smell, touch and taste a moment between Edge and Christian celebrating on PPV, and that's the major reason why Christian was awarded the title." This dispels any conspiracy theories that Christian was awarded the title to keep it on Smackdown, as we were told it would have been very easy for WWE to throw a third party into the Extreme Rules match which would have kept the title off Christian and still on Smackdown.

As to the question of why WWE stripped Christian of the title so shortly after his win at Extreme Rules, WZ was told that no one in WWE with any kind of influence values Christian as a top money draw for the company. Christian is well liked, and is considered, as we were told, "a reliable hand," but when it comes to being a top player in WWE, Vince McMahon has absolutely no faith in him.

Brian Gewirtz, who is the head writer on Raw, and also oversees the entire writing staff in general, which means he does have influence on the direction of Smackdown, is said to be a big supporter of Christian, but other than him, there appears to be no other members of WWE's top brass that consider Christian to be a major player. And yet, we're told by our key WWE insider that even Gewirtz wouldn't speak up for Christian as a top draw. "Brian knows Christian is a very entertaining wrestler," we were told, "but even he knows Christian should not be the number one guy on either brand."

As we said, however, Christian is still considered to be a quality worker and a reliable hand for WWE, and we were even told that a possible producer/agent position might be available for him when his wrestling days are over, but as far as Christian ever working at the top of a WWE brand, that seems to be a very unlikely possibility.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/exclusive-why-wwe-booked-major-angle-on-sd-spoiler-129391

[James Steele]

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[Londoner]

My worst fears are being realized.:(

[XL]

Orton is x10 over with the crowd.
So, it's right that Orton should be champ because he gets the biggest reaction. Yet we bitch when Cena - who gets the biggest reaction (good or bad) on the roster - is champ!?

Typical IWC.

[CSL]

It's only the muties that tend to really cry and moan about Cena. There's just a lot of them.

[#1-norm-fan]

It's all about booking. Orton has been booked to be a superstar for years. Christian has not. Orton is gonna get a bigger reaction. If this all happened on Raw, I'd be way more "fuck WWE" because Raw has no concept of booking a character whatsoever and this would just be an example of going the lazy way and putting the title on someone already crazy over instead of being creative.

Since it's Smackdown, a show that has proven (to me at least) that it can make things interesting, I'm gonna go ahead and a) see if Orton can be fresh and interesting again in what are hopefully some great world title storylines to come. and b) see if this is leading to something big for Christian, probably as a bitter heel at least for a while.

[MoFo]

So, it's right that Orton should be champ because he gets the biggest reaction. Yet we bitch when Cena - who gets the biggest reaction (good or bad) on the roster - is champ!?

Typical IWC.


No, its right that Orton should be champ because Christian is fucking terrible and a shadow of what he was. He isn't that "awesome heel" from 2005 anymore, you lot need to come to terms with that.

[The Jayman]

No, its right that Orton should be champ because Christian is fucking terrible and a shadow of what he was. He isn't that "awesome heel" from 2005 anymore, you lot need to come to terms with that.

please explain

[wwe2222]

Randy Orton is one of the most boring wrestlers of the past 20 years. I dont get it, but obviously not many people in the crowd agree.

[Attitude99]

He got screwed simple as that, what is it with vince screwing canadians ??

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Screwed? They let him win the World Heavyweight Championship.

Have we all just forgotten the other option of them never letting Christian win the title at all?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I know we're all very upset that they had Christian drop the title so quickly, but having the title for a little bit is still better than never winning the title at all, right?

[MoFo]

please explain


He's not very good anymore.

[Ultra Mantis]

Don't really see how he got screwed here, if nobody running the show wanted him to hold the belt he's lucky he got his big moment at Extreme Rules and held the title at all. I love Christian but I never expected him to have a run with the big one like he did with the ECW title.

[CSL]

3 Days in May (A Christian World Heavyweight Championship retrospective)

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[XL]

He's not very good anymore.
At what?

He's still great in the ring, a notch above half the roster, 3 notchs ahead of Orton. He barely gets promo time and when he does he cuts face promos cos, well, he's a face. Babyface promos are harder/less interesting than heel ones.

Point is Christian isn't the star of the show and isn't given a lot to work with (hence why his pop will never compete with Orton's) but he looked to have been given something - and may still have yet.

On top of that, it's not so much that people fondly remember the Creepy Little Bastard heel Christian and more a case of wanting to see a guy that has worked hard for over 13 years finally get the credit he deserves.

[Jeritron]

This could easily be one step towards changing his character and having him chase or regain the title once again for longer than a few days this summer.

Who knows? The whole storyline with Edge and Del Rio contained the subplot of Christian being back and on fire, yet without a world title shot.
They even began to establish a little bit of ambition and jealousy in him about that belt.

This isn't a heel turn you pull off when someone is holding the belt. It can, however, happen after something like this. Achieving his dream only to be rushed into a match against Orton and lose could be feul for him snapping.
Then, he could feud with Orton for the belt.

It could be more or less a replacement angle for a possible Edge/Christian feud intended for the summer.

Or maybe that's just me being optimistic. Any number of things could happen. Just wait and see.

I was disappointed to see the results obviously, but it still doesn't change the awesomeness of Sunday night as a Christian fan.
I only really asked that he'd win a world title. I never said how long.

[Londoner]

He's not very good anymore.

Good trolling. Only bad match he's had is when he first came back. Still entertaining as ever.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

This could easily be one step towards changing his character and having him chase or regain the title once again for longer than a few days this summer.

Who knows? The whole storyline with Edge and Del Rio contained the subplot of Christian being back and on fire, yet without a world title shot.
They even began to establish a little bit of ambition and jealousy in him about that belt.

This isn't a heel turn you pull off when someone is holding the belt. It can, however, happen after something like this. Achieving his dream only to be rushed into a match against Orton and lose could be feul for him snapping.
Then, he could feud with Orton for the belt.

It could be more or less a replacement angle for a possible Edge/Christian feud intended for the summer.

Or maybe that's just me being optimistic. Any number of things could happen. Just wait and see.

I was disappointed to see the results obviously, but it still doesn't change the awesomeness of Sunday night as a Christian fan.
I only really asked that he'd win a world title. I never said how long.

Didn't they know Edge was done after WrestleMania? I thought that's why they just sorta all of a sudden interjected Christian into the feud.

[Juan]

Turn Christian heel. Problem solved

(note: I haven't read the various threads on this subject so this has probably been suggested already)

[Mr. Nerfect]

This could easily be one step towards changing his character and having him chase or regain the title once again for longer than a few days this summer.

Who knows? The whole storyline with Edge and Del Rio contained the subplot of Christian being back and on fire, yet without a world title shot.
They even began to establish a little bit of ambition and jealousy in him about that belt.

This isn't a heel turn you pull off when someone is holding the belt. It can, however, happen after something like this. Achieving his dream only to be rushed into a match against Orton and lose could be feul for him snapping.
Then, he could feud with Orton for the belt.

It could be more or less a replacement angle for a possible Edge/Christian feud intended for the summer.

Or maybe that's just me being optimistic. Any number of things could happen. Just wait and see.

I was disappointed to see the results obviously, but it still doesn't change the awesomeness of Sunday night as a Christian fan.
I only really asked that he'd win a world title. I never said how long.

Other people have said similar things, but this echoes my sentiments EXACTLY.

I'm bummed that Christian didn't get a lengthy reign (by that I mean 2+ months) with the belt, but this may not be a bad thing. I mean, what did people really want to see? Christian vs. Mark Henry? As soon as Christian won the World Heavyweight Title, I knew that we'd see SmackDown! open with a Christian promo and Randy Orton coming out and congratulating Christian, but saying that he won the title with help from Edge -- and he needs to prove he is worthy of being champion.

Also, given Christian's awesome promo last week, which I don't think they will just ignore, in which Christian said something along the lines of not only feeling worthy to win the World Title; but worthy enough to keep it, this whole angle takes on a new depth. Christian wasn't who he thought he was. Whether or not this leads to a pissed off Christian heel turn or not remains to be seen, but I suspect that we'll see more depth out of Christian in coming weeks, promo-wise, anyway. And that is where the man can really shine and make believers out of those who don't think he could do it, but gave him a novelty reign anyway. They obviously don't hate the guy.

I also read a set a spoilers that said that Todd Grisham interviewed Teddy Long just before the main event and asked if he thinks it's unfair if Christian defends his World Title so soon after Extreme Rules. Teddy says something like "It's not about being fair; it's about giving the fans what they want. RAW had a WWE Title match after Extreme Rules, so SmackDown! will be just as exciting and unpredictable."

So maybe this can be used to segue blame onto the fans? I mean, they could have had Orton win a Triple Threat Match to qualify for the title shot and take it next week if they really wanted to -- but I'm hoping the fan vote and it being so soon after Extreme Rules has a point to it.

Also, with Chavo Guerrero seemingly turning face (or perhaps he's just feigning a face turn?) and with Ezekiel Jackson seemingly out of Corre, Kane still on SmackDown! and Big Show able to appear there -- a top face isn't as needed for the brand so much now that Edge has been replaced with Orton. That means they could go ahead with the Christian heel turn that many people felt was coming.

Now that Christian is a former World Heavyweight Champion, his resume has been boosted, and he has proven he can win the big one. The ice has been broken, and I think Christian will see the World Heavyweight Title again -- even if it is not as the top babyface of a brand.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Didn't they know Edge was done after WrestleMania? I thought that's why they just sorta all of a sudden interjected Christian into the feud.

Christian has been part of the feud since Elimination Chamber, where he returned attacking Del Rio for putting him on the shelf. Heading into WrestleMania, Christian actually got two victories over Alberto Del Rio (one in a Steel Cage Match without any assist, I believe), but was not the one scheduled to compete for the World Heavyweight Title.

I honestly believe that plans were always to draft Del Rio to RAW (they had him appear a lot over there to promote WrestleMania), and for Edge to keep the World Title at Extreme Rules -- again with assist from Christian. Edge would then grant Christian a World Title match, Christian would lose, and then the next week would turn heel against Edge. Or something like that.

As I said, maybe Orton moving over to SmackDown! as pretty much a direct replacement for Edge, will allow plans to go on ahead as planned -- Christian as a sneaky heel challenging for the belt?

[Lara Emily]

I know we're all very upset that they had Christian drop the title so quickly, but having the title for a little bit is still better than never winning the title at all, right?

Debatable

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It is debatable. You could argue that the title has no meaning whatsoever and is merely a prop.

You probably couldn't argue that this hurt Christian in any way unless it was still real to you, dammit.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Alright well I'm terribly sorry for being close minded, but I can't see the other side of that argument at all.

[Ultra Mantis]

The only downside to Christian having the belt for a few days instead of just jobbing to Del Rio is that people will no longer be able to list him in the bi-monthly "best wrestler who was never world champion" thread. Also

IAmJericho (http://twitter.com/#!/IAmJericho) Chris Jericho
Hey everyone bitching about @Christian4Peeps losing the title, have u ever thought that maybe it's just the beginning of a bigger storyline?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

All I'm saying is if Christian got screwed, Scott Hall got brutally raped by several dozen Africans.

[Ermaximus]

While I don't agree with the way they took the title off of Christian, it had to have been done for a reason. If it was backstage politics, then that's just stupid, but if it was done to progress a much bigger fued between Orton and Christian then I say let it roll.

I don't really see that many other credible main eventers on Smackdown at the moment anyways. Orton, Christian, Kane, and Sheamus are really the only guys who come to mind. Sin Cara, Cody, Danielson, Riley, Barrett, Dibiase, and Zeke all could be potential main eventers, but I see maybe 1 of those guys getting a main event push this year. That being Zeke. Aside from having few main eventers, Smackdown has no real top heel. If I had to pick one right now, I'd say Sheamus is the top choice, but a heel Christian would far outweigh that.

The point is, from a logical standpoint, Orton is the best choice to be champion for now. I don't know about you guys, but an Orton/Christian fued sounds way more promising to me than a Christian/Henry or Christian/Khali fued.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, I think most likely what happened was that their plans to turn Christian into a heel against Edge fell through when Edge had to leave earlier than expected. So they did this, and now will turn him heel with basically the same stuff R-Truth is doing (Pleasing you fans never got me anywhere!)

Doesn't mean I can't be devastated about it though. When it comes to Christian, I lose all impartiality and logic.

[Ermaximus]

Yeah, I think most likely what happened was that their plans to turn Christian into a heel against Edge fell through when Edge had to leave earlier than expected. So they did this, and now will turn him heel with basically the same stuff R-Truth is doing (Pleasing you fans never got me anywhere!)

Doesn't mean I can't be devastated about it though. When it comes to Christian, I lose all impartiality and logic.

Lock Jaw, ya need a hug buddy? *There there. There, there.*

He'll get the title back, don't worry.

[Londoner]

Would much prefer a heel Orton to a heel Christian. Christian heel turn doesn't feel right atm.

[XL]

All I'm saying is if Christian got screwed, Scott Hall <s>got brutally raped by several dozen Africans.</s> fucked things up for himself because for him getting wasted > progressing in your chosen profession.

Would much prefer a heel Orton to a heel Christian. Christian heel turn doesn't feel right atm.
It'll be interesting to see which way the crowd go. Christian got a pretty good reaction when he won the belt and according to the spoilers also had the crowd chanting his name after losing the title. Would the crowd favour him over Orton, I doubt it, but I'm interested to see.

[Londoner]

Orton's a good heel so I think he could get the crowd to hate him easily enough.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You know Christian screwed himself over too. He skipped town right at the height of his popularity. Whoops.

[voncouch]

I was going to title this "Why Christian Losing The Belt Is A Good Thing", but event though we all know what happened by now, I didn't want to be an asshole and spoil anything.

Let me preface this by saying that I am a big Christian fan and always have been. And when he finally got the strap at Extreme Rules, I marked out like alot of the IWC. And when I heard he lost it within a week, I was also pissed a first. But after thinking about it for a bit, I think this could turn into something really good.

First of all, Christian makes a great babyface. He works just as well as a heel, but he has the charisma, talent and attitude that people just want to get behind. And with Edge's retirement, the fans are with him more than ever. On the flip side, Orton is a natural-born heel. His face turn recently has been more because of fans just wanting to cheer for him and not because he's particularly good at the role. He's vicious, he's dangerous, he's nuts and he'll do anything he can to win. But people still want to cheer him if he's not working with a strong babyface. Jumping him to Smackdown and putting him in a program with someone who is very over as a face right now is a great idea. The proof is in the automatic hate just on the results WWE and Orton have gotten recently. The two are going to have some great matches and both have the talent in the ring and on the mic to keep the fans' interest for a long time.

Secondly, I think this could be used for Christian to "prove" himself. Going into the match at Extreme Rules, he was saying how he never even touched the belt because he didn't think he was worthy of it. And how did he win the match? With the distraction from Edge. It can be argued that he won it on a fluke and still didn't deserve it. And then within a week he loses it again? They can use the angle that he tasted what it was like to be champion, and now he wants it more than ever. And more than that: he wants to earn it. He gets into a program with Orton where he gets around every obstacle and jumps every hurdle to get back to the belt. He fights hard, vicious, grueling matches, proving he can go head-to-head with Orton on every level. He chases the belt for a month or two. Maybe have a title match on Smackdown with another Edge interference, but he refuses to take it and counts himself out. Waits until his big moment, maybe at Summerslam. He finally earns the belt, 1-2-3, in the middle of the ring. And now he is the true champion on his own merits. Of course this is just armchair booking, but with how they've set this up, this could make sense in where they're going.

And finally, I am very sure he will eventually get the belt back. WWE loves babyface champions. Hogan, Warrior, Hart, Shawn, Austin, Rock, Foley, Cena, Batista. The only heel champion I can think of that wasn't there just to build a face is HHH, and no real surprises there. WWE loves having a champ who can be the positive face of the company. So while Orton has the belt now, I don't think he'll have it for too long.

So while it sucks Christian lost the belt, keep watching. Because this could start getting real good.

[NormanSmiley]

oh good, i was starting to worry we wouldn't hit double digits on the amount of christian loses the belt threads.....

and i dont see a program with orton happening. orton moves on to face the heels of smackdown. christian plays 2nd fiddle til he turns heel

[XL]

Orton v Christian was excellent and the way the show ended hit the right note perfectly.

[Schlomey]

Norman Smiley - No need for the prickery.


I agree with the post above and it also really helped give me some perspective and hope I didn't have before. Well done.

[voncouch]

Seeing as they just started Christian's push, I really don't see them pissing this chance away so early. And with Del Rio gone, Orton can naturally step into the top heel of the brand.

But this could just be trying to institute some logic into WWE booking, and we all know how often that happens.

[Londoner]

Good post, Voncouch.

[St. Jimmy]

It's good because more people will buy Randy Orton t-shirts. /thread

[voncouch]

Thanks Schlomey. Like the rest of us I was getting out my torch and pitchfork when I first heard the news. I was hoping turning a negative into a positive might calm a few of us down, myself included.

[Schlomey]

it worked on me at least for the time being...that is until we see how things unfold. With the WWE writing crew you never know.

[Londoner]

In reality though, Christian will end up in a feud with Mark Henry...as planned. :(

[Ermaximus]

Seeing as they just started Christian's push, I really don't see them pissing this chance away so early. And with Del Rio gone, Orton can naturally step into the top heel of the brand.

But this could just be trying to institute some logic into WWE booking, and we all know how often that happens.

As I posted in another thread, Smackdown has no #1 credible heel. The only established heel they really have that could take that role is Sheamus. Don't get me wrong, Cody, Zeke, and Barrett could easily jump up there too, but as of right now, SD is severly lacking in the main event scene. They have Orton, Sheamus, Kane, Christian, and sadly Mark Henry, and Khali.

I just think this whole angle is going to build to either Orton or Christian turning heel so that we have both a #1 face and a #1 heel on SD.

[XL]

Good post.

Of course, it's nothing that hasn't already been said. But good post.

[DLVH84]

I hope Captain Charisma wins the title back soon.

[Jordan]

As I posted in another thread, Smackdown has no #1 credible heel. The only established heel they really have that could take that role is Sheamus. Don't get me wrong, Cody, Zeke, and Barrett could easily jump up there too, but as of right now, SD is severly lacking in the main event scene. They have Orton, Sheamus, Kane, Christian, and sadly Mark Henry, and Khali.

I just think this whole angle is going to build to either Orton or Christian turning heel so that we have both a #1 face and a #1 heel on SD.

I think that if thats true all of the Christian's on TPWW will love it. Christian as Smackdown's top heel is better than a tier two babyface. Champion or not.

[Rammsteinmad]

Christian lost the belt?! WTF?!

[Aguakate]

Christian fans will NOT listen to excuses!

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[Xero]

Opinions are like assholes....

[Ermaximus]

Well, the main difference is, people don't make youtube videos about their assholes. These people just make the rest of us look bad.

[DAMN iNATOR]

As I posted in another thread, Smackdown has no #1 credible heel. The only established heel they really have that could take that role is Sheamus. Don't get me wrong, Cody, Zeke, and Barrett could easily jump up there too, but as of right now, SD is severly lacking in the main event scene. They have Orton, Sheamus, Kane, Christian, and sadly Mark Henry, and Khali.

I just think this whole angle is going to build to either Orton or Christian turning heel so that we have both a #1 face and a #1 heel on SD.

When was Khali ever main event? LOL. And don't say 2007, because that title run of his was a sham and you know it.

[Schlomey]

I'll decide for myself in a couple hours. Me and my kid will be eating peeps in bed.

[MoFo]

Orton v Cody v Ted in the long awaited rematch.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

That's the creepiest post I've ever read.

[Aguakate]

We will not waiver!



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[Damian Rey]

I'm hoping Orton is the one who turns heel. Christian is the more sympathetic character. A guy who's busted his ass for years finally get his moment in the sun, only to have it taken away from him in an instant. That's easier to get behind.

Not to mention, Orton has always made a better heel, and even though he's been on fire for the past year with live crowds, he's a better option for top heel on SD! than Christian is.

I hope this leads somewhere for both guys. Orton's been going around in circles for a while now, and Christian is now in a position where he could really gain some momentum on his own and get built back up to another title win.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Watching the match this afternoon on YouTube, it's not like Christian got buried. They made it look like a close match, and the focus at the end of the show was more on Christian's reaction to losing the title, not Orton's celebration. I don't think they'd make the last shot of a taped show a dejected Christian walking to the back if they didn't have plans for a storyline.

That's not to say that the storyline will avoid being a letdown, too, but it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

[VSG]

Why is everyone ignoring Orton's sudden beard? He is the heel!

[Damian Rey]

Watching the match this afternoon on YouTube, it's not like Christian got buried. They made it look like a close match, and the focus at the end of the show was more on Christian's reaction to losing the title, not Orton's celebration. I don't think they'd make the last shot of a taped show a dejected Christian walking to the back if they didn't have plans for a storyline.

That's not to say that the storyline will avoid being a letdown, too, but it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

I'm DVR'n it just to see how they book the actual match and aftermath. I know Christian got the RKO "outta nowhere", so it's not like he was booked to look be a lesser man than Orton more so than just hanging himself out to dry.

The potential is still there. This could very well be a good thing. Not to mention, it's SmackDown!, which has consistently the better wrestling show for about 2 years and running. Hayes tends to treat the veterans well. The same could be happening to Christian here.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

This is kinda similar to the Punk/Hardy thing. Hardy finally gets that belt after a hard fought ladder match, then Punk takes it from him while Hardy is injured. The focus was all about Hardy. And it got him over huge, even though he was leaving the company.

Think Orton might be too over for that to work though.

[Aguakate]

The thing about Randy Orton is that, for some reason, he is over HUGE with the fans, Vince McMahon and the WWE have given ALL the opportunities IN THE WORLD to be the biggest star of the company, has gotten Title runs, and yet, he STILL has not gotten to THAT point, that level of stardom, where guys like Shawn Michaels, The Rock, Steve Austin, Triple H, Undertaker, and even John Cena, reside...

[Emperor Smeat]

This is kinda similar to the Punk/Hardy thing. Hardy finally gets that belt after a hard fought ladder match, then Punk takes it from him while Hardy is injured. The focus was all about Hardy. And it got him over huge, even though he was leaving the company.

Think Orton might be too over for that to work though.

It worked out well in the Punk/Hardy situation because Punk was a heel and Hardy had a few chances previously with title matches so it helped Punk a lot to become the "asshole" style heel hated by fans for ruining the moment.

This one doesn't feel the same mainly due to Orton being a face and just arriving on the brand while Christian came off of his 1st title match. Before Edge retiring and the draft, it looked more possible Del Rio winning than Christian because he was getting pushed more than Christian.

The other major difference was Hardy had a good build up to his road to the title while Christian's push came off of Edge retiring and the sudden focus switching from Edge vs Del Rio to the branch storyline of Christian vs Del Rio.

[XCaliber]

There's a lot of speculation that Christian may turn heel but somehow I don't see it happening as I think the reason they put the belt on Orton was to make the guy to take it from him look even more credible. That person I am referring to could very well end up being Wade Barrett and if he beat Christian it wouldn't be as impressive am I right? It helped Miz when he cashed in MITB and btw i'd like to add that he looks so much better carrying the WHC than that spinner piece of crap.

[The Naitch]

11 WH/WWE Championship reigns

One 2 day WH Championship reign

[Juan]

ANOTHER thread about this? Really?

[Aguakate]

...Christian fans are LIVID, Juan.

[Raven Reaper]

During the ending of Orton winning, notice how Christian just felt completely silenced and scratching his head in frustration and he looks at the ring one last time when he leaves.. His expression says it all, "Think it's time to either retire or beat the shit out of Orton."

[Aguakate]

During the ending of Orton winning, notice how Christian just felt completely silenced and scratching his head in frustration and he looks at the ring one last time when he leaves.. His expression says it all, "Think it's time to either retire or beat the shit out of Orton."

...you know wrestling's fake, right? He KNEW he was going to lose.

[Londoner]

Just watched the match, the ending was very well done. Love some of the stunned faces in the crowd. :lol:

[Aguakate]

The majority of the crowd ate it up though...good pop...

...looks like the majority of those angry with what happened reside on the internet.

[Jura]

What the truck dude? They changed Sin Cara's theme. It was so good before. Now it's weird and I can barely hear half of it.

[VSG]

lol ya I am exacly at that point in Smackdown and was wondering if the theme was the same.

[Jura]

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What the hell is this?

[Jura]

You know what? I think they switched to the theme they used in his promos.

[VSG]

The theme in his promos was the first theme he used, but the one on Friday is toned down on certain parts much like the variations of The Corre theme from that 1st one which was so good.

[Jura]

Triple H trying to bury his own signed talent by changing that awesome theme.

[VSG]

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[Jura]

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RIP Sin Cara's theme :(

[CSL]

...looks like the majority of those angry with what happened reside on the internet.

Fancy that

[Jura]

This one sounds pretty cool

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[VSG]

Not bad at all, I am a sucker for opera music.

[Jura]

He gets to come out to hot Hispanic bitches and wear a jersey with his own name on it while Latin hymns are playing in the background? Way better than the WWE entrance.

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[VSG]

The least they could have done is have his name on a WWESHOP Wrestlemania jersey then.

[Jura]

I didn't read the thread but I feel like Christian might become heel and the title was a gift to Orton for going over to SD.

[#1-norm-fan]

Did anyone else notice that they didn't censor when The Rock said "Go Heat, bitch" to Michael Cole in the video package from Raw? I find it especially odd since they censored it live. I don't get it.

[Anybody Thrilla]

This was a pretty good Smackdown, if anyone was paying attention.

[VSG]

If only Smackdown stopped airing 15-20 min of Raw each time, it will get even better. But ya, pretty good show :y:

[XL]

^ That.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Guys, The Rock only has ONE birthday a year. A little respect, please.

[Anybody Thrilla]

BTW, I'm actually interested in that Great Khali business. What the hell?

[Raven Reaper]

I'm a bit surprised Alicia Fox didn't looked scared shitless when Kharma was in the ring.. And tried to roundhouse kick her ass.. Nice try but BAMMMM!!! I noticed Alicia despite her lack of power and strength, she almost has the same height as Kharma and could easily take her one on one.

[VSG]

BTW, I'm actually interested in that Great Khali business. What the hell?

I think Jinder Mahal is going to have Khali "break up" with Ranjin Singh and form a heel tag team with Khali.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think Jinder Mahal is going to have Khali "break up" with Ranjin Singh and form a heel tag team with Khali.

I was figuring along similar lines. I've only seen him twice for very brief periods, but I like what I've seen from Jinder thus far.

[VSG]

Checking out his videos on youtube right now, I like what I see so far. Of course it helps that I can understand what he is saying in Punjabi but then take a gander at his finisher:

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At ~3:28. Not sure how to do the "Start at specific time" thing in the newer embed codes.

[#1-norm-fan]

Calling it now: Jinder Mahal and The Great Khali will be the next WWE World Tag Team champions.

[Damian Rey]

Interesting on Mahal. I wonder if they will have him spewing nonesense at the live crowds in Persian in an effort to draw heat. That finisher is great, but I can't see him pulling off a gutbuster on the main event portion of the roster. Gonna have to come up with something else. Knowing WWE, the Camel Clutch shall return.

[GD]

In Persian? :nono:

[James Steele]

Great episode of SmackDown!, but I hope they don't do the mood lighting for Sin Cara's matches for an extended period of time.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Great episode of SmackDown!, but I hope they don't do the mood lighting for Sin Cara's matches for an extended period of time.

Yeah, what is the deal with that? How much do they need the guy to stand out? It feels like they're trying too hard, and honestly, it's sort of turning me off to the guy.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Also, I think I'm going to like the new Mark Henry.

[XCaliber]

Can't help but think that with the mugging on Ezekiel Jackson this was their way of setting him up to be released and just have him replaced with someone else.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Can't help but think that with the mugging on Ezekiel Jackson this was their way of setting him up to be released and just have him replaced with someone else.

Then why have him go over Big Show? Seems like they want to try another singles push for him...possibly as a face...just like they were doing for about ten minutes before he joined The Corre.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I hope Skip Sheffield returns and takes Zeke's place as The Corre's muscle.</font>

[James Steele]

I hope Skip Sheffield returns and takes Zeke's place as The Corre's muscle.

When did he break his leg?

[CSL]

During the initial Nexus run around August-September, on a house show I believe

[James Steele]

The leg is probably healed, but I wonder how much atrophy his big ass had in that leg and what rehab he will do so he doesn't walk like he has a peg-leg.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, he had broken his ankle, had a major surgery, was slated for a return around Mania, then had a setback and needed another surgery. Poor guy.</font>

[James Steele]

I didn't realize this entirely, but this is even funnier when you realize Christian got jobbed out in Orlando. :lol:

[Graveler]

Ah Skip Sheffield :( Talk about a bad time to get injured. Missed the entire Nexus run and everything

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, Zeke is going to get a mammoth push as a face. Sin Cara and Zeke will be the "rising star" focus on SmackDown! for at least the near future. I also think they have big plans for Jinder Mahal, since it's quite rare to see someone get called up without being on NXT or something. I think the last two were Sin Cara and Alberto Del Rio? I haven't seen much of Mahal's work, but he seems well traveled, and I'm sorta interested in this Khali stuff. He seems to be trying to bring the monster back out of Khali. Whether that means they'll be partners or if they'll feud remains to be seen.

I also liked Chavo on commentary. He was being a cocky bastard, but at the same time, he showed a sporting attitude towards Sin Cara. I'm not hoping for anything more than him to be temporarily treated as someone special just so Sin Cara can defeat him, but as a Chavo mark I like the depth he's been getting with this and NXT.

I kind of want to see Daniel Bryan & Ezekiel Jackson find someone else, and team up to face The Corre.

[James Steele]

Yeah, Zeke is going to get a mammoth push as a face. Sin Cara and Zeke will be the "rising star" focus on SmackDown! for at least the near future. I also think they have big plans for Jinder Mahal, since it's quite rare to see someone get called up without being on NXT or something. I think the last two were Sin Cara and Alberto Del Rio? I haven't seen much of Mahal's work, but he seems well traveled, and I'm sorta interested in this Khali stuff. He seems to be trying to bring the monster back out of Khali. Whether that means they'll be partners or if they'll feud remains to be seen.

I also liked Chavo on commentary. He was being a cocky bastard, but at the same time, he showed a sporting attitude towards Sin Cara. I'm not hoping for anything more than him to be temporarily treated as someone special just so Sin Cara can defeat him, but as a Chavo mark I like the depth he's been getting with this and NXT.

I kind of want to see Daniel Bryan & Ezekiel Jackson find someone else, and team up to face The Corre.

The New Apple vs The [Renovated] Corre

[Mr. Nerfect]

Essentially, yes. Actually, a good third person for the group would be William Regal. The days of dreaming for an actual Regal push went out with 2008 and Regal's second wellness suspension, but with his interesting, face-ish role on NXT, him being drafted to SmackDown! and his past connections with Ezekiel Jackson and Daniel Bryan -- a Corre vs. Ezekiel Jackson, Daniel Bryan & William Regal match would be greatly appreciated by this viewer for Over the Limit.

And if Regal and Bryan bust out matching burgundy trunks, and Jackson sticks to his red ones -- Apple references will be all the more relevant. :shifty:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, just throwing this out there: If Christian does turn heel against Randy Orton, I'd absolutely love it if he started busting out his own RKO/Diamond Cutter-style move to get at Randy. If Matt Striker were on commentary, I'm sure he could link it to DDP's brief time as a student of DDP's.

[erickman]

I also liked Chavo on commentary. He was being a cocky bastard, but at the same time, he showed a sporting attitude towards Sin Cara. I'm not hoping for anything more than him to be temporarily treated as someone special just so Sin Cara can defeat him, but as a Chavo mark I like the depth he's been getting with this and NXT.

I kind of want to see Daniel Bryan & Ezekiel Jackson find someone else, and team up to face The Corre.

yeah i would like them to put chavo on commentary when he retires. as long as he is not stuck like hector in the mexcan table.

[Volare]

That's a TNA thing sir.

[erickman]

That's a TNA thing sir.

so who is on the wwe mex table now, i rember the old days that was the table that got smashed.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Dunno why but I always enjoyed the record-scratch, slow version of Christian's "At Last" theme:

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Still has nothing on the Waterproof Blonde version of "Just Close Your Eyes" but it's a close 2nd in my book.

[DAMN iNATOR]

so who is on the wwe mex table now, i rember the old days that was the table that got smashed.

As far as I know it's still Carlos Cabrera and Hugo Savinovich. They don't introduce them at the start of PPV's anymore like they used to although I'd say it's a safe bet that they're still the Spanish commentary guys you hear on the S.A.P. channel.
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