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Jordan

06-27-2011, 06:14 PM

James Steele

06-27-2011, 06:23 PM

I'd like it if they made it less obvious that is turning into The Joker. It is great stuff though.

Phenomenal 1

06-27-2011, 06:26 PM

Riddle me this....Riddle me that....no one is afraid of Sting's fake black baseball bat!!!

Jordan

06-27-2011, 06:26 PM

LOL everybody wants to be the fucking Joker, it's an easy pop but man is it too fucking cool.

Hell he already ripped the Crow, why not? Roll with the times baby....

Or three years ago whatever

Phenomenal 1

06-27-2011, 06:31 PM

i wanna roll with the times....I wish Sting would as well....being the times that professional wrestlers who are in their 40's who realize they can't compete with the times anymore and decide that its time to do the respectable thing and hang up the boots and tights. Don't get me wrong, i'm not a smark against Sting. The man has undeniable charisma, the ability to cut great promos and vignettes, but his in ring performance just doesn't par anymore like it used to. Anyway you cut this new angle doesn't slice with me as being beneficial for Impact. I wish Sting would get his rematch on the 14th, go out with a bang at Bound for Glory and hang it up. Which he should have done 2 years ago IMO.

James Steele

06-27-2011, 06:31 PM

I mean, he even has the lip paint and has that chronic imaginary chewing gum tick. I get it and it is good stuff, but I think they should make it less blatant.

James Steele

06-27-2011, 06:34 PM

Jordan

06-27-2011, 06:35 PM

Jordan

06-27-2011, 06:36 PM

Phenomenal 1

06-27-2011, 06:38 PM

I, for one, am hoping that they actually don't put Hogan and Sting in a match together because I bet they put it on last and I bet it stinks the joint up IN SPITE of Sting's best efforts. Sting can go, but he can't carry people anymore. If you thought Foley/Sting for the TNA Title was bad...imagine Sting vs "The Immortal Busted Vertebrae" Hulk Hogan. Hogan probably wins too and becomes a face for some damn reason.

I don't see Hogan climbing back in the ring, but I could see the fued between him and Sting ending at Bound for Glory in a BFG rematch...Jeff Jarrett stepping up and defending the torch for Hogan and Immortal maybe in a Winner Takes Control of TNA match or even if Jarrett wins, Sting Leaves TNA or if Sting wins, Eric Bischoff is gone from TNA and that marks Hogans face turn. Would be interesting to see Sting and Jarrett one more time and would be a good way to end the fued which I see a Hogan face turn at the end no matter what and Bischoff taking a more off camera production role and this way they could write him out on air.

James Steele

06-27-2011, 06:40 PM

Hey James, Hogan/Sting isn't a match people want to see for a five star, just to get them together one more time, maybe sell 10,000 tickets in Atlanta or some shit. It could be good for the company I think. And it would make BFG actually epic for once.

Look, it isn't about it being a 5-Star match. If a match, especially one that will be overhyped, is the absolute drizzling shits it will do nothing but hurt the company because it sends a clear message to the fans: "Fuck you."

Phenomenal 1

06-27-2011, 06:44 PM

Yo Ruff Ryder, I disagree that it's not doing good for Impact, it's gotten me to WANT to watch... like go out of my way. Usually if I watch IW it's cause I ain't doing shit on a Thursday or I watch it on Spiketv.com

SO I can't be the only one. And being from the South, let me tell you Sting is the fucking man. They love him. He is a huge draw in the South and making him the forefront of the Bisch/Hogan story is good news, kinda coming full circle for all those fans obsessed with Sting and Hogan in 97.

I think we might see a Hogan/Bisch split as the shock here but I don't know, I'm actually enjoying it I do know that.

I can agree and respect with your opinion Fragile and yes i do know that Sting is the man in the south, he's been the man in the south since the 80's and his days with JCP and early WCW. Always has been and always will be. I've been following wrestling for over 25 years so I know where you are coming from. I too am interested in watching Impact with the direction they are using Sting from the perspective of the promos and backstage vignettes, but that's as far as it carries me. I have no real desire or passion to see Sting in ring. Someone mentioned that he can't carry anyone anymore, thats the main issue right there.

Impact is moving in the direction of wrestling matters and pushing younger talent, if Sting can't carry a guy anymore or make him look good enough for the fans to make it believable that they are over, then let a Kurt Angle, AJ, or Jeff Jarrett calibur guy that can still decently go do it and be honorable enough to take the high road and get out while you can get out on top. That's all i'm saying. If Sting could still work a limited schedule and do 1-2 television matches here and there and deliver a 3.5 star match on TV and carry a 4 star or higher on PPV then I would be all for him staying in the business on the performer side, but the truth is he can't and thats what turns me off to anything relating to him in the ring. That's why I'm saying the Hogan/Bischoff vs Sting thing will probably end at BFG.

Nicky Fives

06-27-2011, 06:50 PM

I love it..... but it can go on forever...... A couple of weeks and he needs to "get back to reality"......

Jordan

06-27-2011, 07:33 PM

I can agree and respect with your opinion Fragile and yes i do know that Sting is the man in the south, he's been the man in the south since the 80's and his days with JCP and early WCW. Always has been and always will be. I've been following wrestling for over 25 years so I know where you are coming from. I too am interested in watching Impact with the direction they are using Sting from the perspective of the promos and backstage vignettes, but that's as far as it carries me. I have no real desire or passion to see Sting in ring. Someone mentioned that he can't carry anyone anymore, thats the main issue right there.

Impact is moving in the direction of wrestling matters and pushing younger talent, if Sting can't carry a guy anymore or make him look good enough for the fans to make it believable that they are over, then let a Kurt Angle, AJ, or Jeff Jarrett calibur guy that can still decently go do it and be honorable enough to take the high road and get out while you can get out on top. That's all i'm saying. If Sting could still work a limited schedule and do 1-2 television matches here and there and deliver a 3.5 star match on TV and carry a 4 star or higher on PPV then I would be all for him staying in the business on the performer side, but the truth is he can't and thats what turns me off to anything relating to him in the ring. That's why I'm saying the Hogan/Bischoff vs Sting thing will probably end at BFG.

Well you got a point there. Sting has absolutely gone through some weird time in the ring lately. It is quite obvious at times that he has lost a few steps through the years in the ring. It sucks because his ability to project his character is better than ever I think. You know, his acting and mic skills.... But to me it seems as if he has caught the bug all over again, he's apparently got a wrestling school in California, on top of the fact that he has wrestled an abnormal amount lately, lead s me to believe he's not going to go away too soon.

Maybe that's not true, but I hope it is. The match with Abyss I enjoyed, I think their good together. The barbed wire glove was fucking awesome, that was instantly a new classic Sting moment.

06-27-2011, 07:37 PM

I liked "Joker" Sting on Impact, blatant rip-off or not.

CSL

06-27-2011, 07:40 PM

Now imagine if this was the character/angle he came into WWE with against Undertaker

Jordan

06-27-2011, 08:16 PM

Now imagine if this was the character/angle he came into WWE with against Undertaker

:rant::rant::rant::rant::rant::rant::rant::rant:

DLVH84

06-27-2011, 09:01 PM

Sting has always knows when to change it up a bit. I believe The Joker-esque persona is another dimension, to where he was driven over the edge.

Shisen Kopf

06-27-2011, 09:38 PM

Surfer sting was the best and 1993 was his best year ever. Rasslin has been all downhill since then. Woooooo!

Malfeitor

06-27-2011, 10:24 PM

I've actually been enjoying Sting with his new persona. Yes, it's blatant that he's ripping off the Joker, but he's running with it. It's definitely entertaining.

Graspbymyself

06-27-2011, 10:55 PM

God damn I cant stop looking at that ass.

VSG

06-27-2011, 11:35 PM

Taker it easy

LewisTheTruest

06-28-2011, 03:20 AM

Rammsteinmad

06-28-2011, 04:01 AM

Sting is awesome! My problem with this angle is that is means Bischoff/Hogan still being in the spotlight.

St. Jimmy

06-28-2011, 07:19 AM

oh look, enough show being dominated by the guys past their prime. fuck TNA.

Jordan

06-28-2011, 02:57 PM

Hogan is a draw man he's gonna be featured if you can't take it don't watch it!

Same for Sting

DLVH84

06-28-2011, 03:52 PM

Hogan is a draw man he's gonna be featured if you can't take it don't watch it!

Same for Sting

Unlike Hogan, Sting is willing to put newer talent over.

James Steele

06-28-2011, 07:07 PM

Hogan is a draw man he's gonna be featured if you can't take it don't watch it!

Same for Sting

You can be "featured" without hogging up the TV time and making everything revolve around you and potentially headlining the "biggest show of the year" in a rematch from 15 years ago.

Jordan

06-28-2011, 08:32 PM

You know how sometimes Ryan Clark reports the amount of wrestling on Impact! or Raw, we should figure out how many minutes Hogan/Bischoff are on Impact Wrestling!

I'm not a fan of Hogan "Hoging" the spotlight in TNA, but he's a draw so I understand to an extent and I really don't mind the program with Sting, I like it.

Rollermacka

06-29-2011, 02:09 AM

I liked "Joker" Sting on Impact, blatant rip-off or not.

Lol, I'm lookin for that promo Sting did awhile back where he quoted "some men want to watch the world burn"

I say if there gonna have a Heath Ledger Jokerish character, they should just give Matt Borne a call (he's still around on the indy circut with a Doink/ Joker crossover)

Tom Guycott

06-29-2011, 02:32 AM

Again, I love it. "Crow" Sting was a "blatant rip-off" too, but it was a 180 from the Sting Kennedy was dressing up like. It was a breath of fresh air. Same with this. As if his "crusade" has made him into what he sees Bischoff as.

Agree with 5's that it can't last forever... BUT I hope it lasts longer than the next couple of Impacts that are already in the can and is forgotten with the next round of tapings.

Also, it would be nice to see the OTHER part of Sting's "crusade" bear fruit... that being having EY be less of a comedy jobber. Have him be the one "save" Sting. Or at the very least, become Batman to Sting's joker. I mean, they missed the boat with Young being the calculating, sinister heel when they blew up World Elite, and that's a shame. I think he has the goods, and much like AJ has pretty much been there from jump. Focusing on stopping Sting could finally give him that push he deserves and help him ditch that goofiness. (/wishful thinking)

06-29-2011, 06:58 AM

Lol, I'm lookin for that promo Sting did awhile back where he quoted "some men want to watch the world burn"

I say if there gonna have a Heath Ledger Jokerish character, they should just give Matt Borne a call (he's still around on the indy circut with a Doink/ Joker crossover)
Difference is, Bourne wouldn't "draw" regardless of the gimmick. Put it on Sting and it's infinitely more interesting.

captaincharismark

06-29-2011, 11:52 PM

I actually think this "storyline" is why TNA sucks so much. Here you have Sting apparently losing his mind all so he can wrestle Hogan again. Or at the very least, bring back the real Hulk Hogan. Either way, I think it's somewhat original(and I use that term loosely) that Sting tried a variation of a gimmick. But to then waste it on a storyline with Hogan is ridicoulous and laughable at the same time. You have a locker room full of talented guys that could help Sting carry a decent match, but yeah, let's give the Ol' Hulkster another try. I'm sure he'll give the Stinger that 5 star classic that has been missing from TNA for 5-6 years. Never mind the catchphrase of the company is "wrestling matters". Gee, do we wanna see Hogan limping in the ring tonight, or do we wanna see AJ Styles give us a dream match with Sting? Well, it seems like it's a no brainer, give the old timers a retrospective of 1997. Hmmm, do I sense the mistakes of WCW coming to bite TNA in the backside? Not pushing the talent while using Sting to set up an already played out match is exactly why WCW is no longer around. But, "wrestling matters", so let's do the opposite.

Sting using his insanity to create a different level to his gimmick is one thing, but to involve Hogan instead of any number of younger talent is a waste of TV time and effort....

06-30-2011, 12:02 AM

What's to say they won't have a younger guy step up to defend Hogan? Who says Hogan will be in a match? Rumour/speculation. We could just wait and see before we write this off.

captaincharismark

06-30-2011, 01:49 AM

^^^^^^
It seems to me that with the direction Impact Wrestling is headed, they are pushing for a Hogan/Sting match. I'll admit it is speculation on my part, but based on their past, TNA thinks the past=money. And even if it's not a match and just a storyline, Hogan, Bischoff and Sting make up 80% of the show. And I doubt a younger guy would step up to defend Hogan, unless he does turn babyface again. Apparently, Impact is more now days about Hogan/Bischoff/Sting than pushing TNA originals or young guys. It's a shame too, considering the "wrestling matters" catchphrase could've been used to focus on the same said younger talent/TNA originals...

06-30-2011, 05:28 AM

80%? O.....k.

I agree, most week's there is too much Bischoff, some weeks too much Hogan. Last week, where this story kicked into gear, it seemed about right.

Why must Hogan turn face to be "defended" by a younger guy? Couldn't one of Immortal step up?

I by no means think that will happen, nor do I want it to especially. But it seems a little bit early to write this off. Granted, that's what "we" do here.

Rammsteinmad

06-30-2011, 06:33 AM

Clearly, Hogan isn't a draw for TNA.

Jordan

06-30-2011, 11:09 AM

Clearly, Hogan isn't a draw for TNA.

I dunno about that man...

How do you figure? Just because TNA doesn't get WWE quality ratings? Well for a 10 year company they are doing pretty well being the highest rated show on Spike TV. And Spike promotes the hell out of TNA since Hogan came on board. Just being able to put his face on a poster is good for TNA...

I enjoy Hogan on the mic, he's one of the best, that aside...

I would think Hogan gains more viewers than he loses, no?

I mean isn't it guys like The Pope that cause drastic rating slides on IW?

I'm really not interested in a lot of TNA youngsters like Pope, Styles, Daniels, or even Matt Morgan. There are some I do like like Beer Money, MCMG, Crimson, Joe, Abyss etc...

I think I'm burnt out on AJ Styles.

kareru

06-30-2011, 11:10 AM

crazy sting is awesome
but there is one question you have to ask

crazy sting or crazy r.truth?

Rammsteinmad

06-30-2011, 11:18 AM

I dunno about that man...

How do you figure? Just because TNA doesn't get WWE quality ratings? Well for a 10 year company they are doing pretty well being the highest rated show on Spike TV. And Spike promotes the hell out of TNA since Hogan came on board. Just being able to put his face on a poster is good for TNA...

I enjoy Hogan on the mic, he's one of the best, that aside...

I would think Hogan gains more viewers than he loses, no?

I mean isn't it guys like The Pope that cause drastic rating slides on IW?

I'm really not interested in a lot of TNA youngsters like Pope, Styles, Daniels, or even Matt Morgan. There are some I do like like Beer Money, MCMG, Crimson, Joe, Abyss etc...

I think I'm burnt out on AJ Styles.

I wasn't specifically referring to anything in particular, just kinda generalizing... so maybe it's the ratings? The event attendances? Just saying... TNA didn't become the biggest thing on the planet the moment Hogan joined... They seemed just as well off without Hogan as they did with him.

Jordan

06-30-2011, 12:03 PM

I think we'll see how they do if they go on the road to different markets, I really think Hogan will help fill the seats.

Rammsteinmad

06-30-2011, 12:45 PM

And if the world ends next year? Then what?! Then we'll never find out!!!

captaincharismark

06-30-2011, 11:42 PM

80%? O.....k.

I agree, most week's there is too much Bischoff, some weeks too much Hogan. Last week, where this story kicked into gear, it seemed about right.

Maybe the 80% was a slight exaggeration, but the point remains the same. Hogan/Bishchoff/Sting remains the top focus of Impact Wrestling. My whole beef with that is the catchphrase "wrestling matters". And to me, none of those names is synonamous with wrestling in any true sense of the word. Sting was good at one time, but now he's doing 9-10 minute main events b/c he's not the wrestler he was. How can "wrestling matter" if the TNA World Champion is only in the show ten minutes or less a week?

Why must Hogan turn face to be "defended" by a younger guy? Couldn't one of Immortal step up?

Does it not make more sense for a face to defend Hogan when and if he turns? A heel defending a heel to me isn't logical. If say an Immortal guy did that, he'd wind up being cheered more than booed. Kinda seems to defeat the purpose...

I by no means think that will happen, nor do I want it to especially. But it seems a little bit early to write this off. Granted, that's what "we" do here.

Like I said above, I doubt a heel would come to the aid of another heel. Nobody's writing this off as far as I can tell. It's all opinion and speculation, which is what "we" do on every internet wrestling site. I personally think the Sting storyline is compelling. He's very entertaining and is a major player for TNA. I'm simply saying if "wrestling matters", then the main focus of the shows shouldn't be on two veterans who can't work as well as the younger guys. More especially considering the champion(Mr. Anderson) seems to be playing second fiddle to them. What's wrong with that picture???