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VSG
06-28-2011, 12:01 AM
http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe-spoilers/wwe-raw-taping-results-june-27-2011.php


* The Money in the Bank briefcase is suspended above the ring.

* The show starts with WWE Champion John Cena coming to the ring and he cuts a promo about CM Punk getting suspended for his comments that ended last week's show. Cena wanted to know why he was suspended for speaking his mind and went above the General Manager's head and called Mr. McMahon for an explanation.

* WWE Divas Champion Kelly Kelly & Eve Torres b. The Bella Twins

* Backstage, R-Truth is on the phone and Scott Stanford comes over and asks him about getting another number one contenders match. Alberto Del Rio walks up to him and tells him it's his destiny to become the number one contender.

* WWE Tag Team Champions David Otunga & Michael McGillicutty b. Santino Marella & Vladimir Kozlov to retain after a McGillicutter. After the match, Zack Ryder hits the ring and says Woo Woo Woo then goes backstage.

* Backstage, The Miz cuts a heel promo on Alex Riley. He brought Riley to WWE and he'll take him out.

* Jack Swagger b. Sgt. Slaughter. After the match, Swagger put Slaughter in the ankle lock. Evan Bourne came out and made the save. Sgt. said the pledge of allegiance.

Keep refreshing this page throughout the night for the latest updates.

VSG
06-28-2011, 12:03 AM
Can't believe they didn't show Punk getting suspended. This is a ridiculous storyline along the scales of Nexus last summer.

rob11
06-28-2011, 12:07 AM
Ryder on Raw WWWYKI
Looks good so far.

VSG
06-28-2011, 12:09 AM
* Alberto Del Rio b. Rey Mysterio & R-Truth in a triple threat match to become the new number one contender for the WWE Championship after using his cross armbreaker.


WTF? They are really playing up the Punk suspended angle here. Can't be true, right? :'(

VSG
06-28-2011, 12:15 AM
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin and Taz posted the following on Twitter regarding CM Punk's on last night's WWE Raw:

Steve Austin: @CMPunk just melted my 52 inch TV with a scorching hot promo...delivery, content, and attitude...one of the best promos I've ever seen.

Taz: Punk did a great job & I always liked him when we were in wwe together and his work! But I must say... There r many of us who were NEVER pushed to the level Punk was & were NEVER allowed to shoot like that, he's lucky he was allowed to do that

Droford
06-28-2011, 12:21 AM
Like I said in Chat, this will inevitably end with Punk winning the belt and HHH coming back to defend the McMahon family honor at Summerslam in a match vs Punk, likely with the rumored stip of HHH's career on the line.

either that or Ryder gets put in MITB, wins the case and cashes in later on and becomes the first one to lose.

Skippord
06-28-2011, 12:22 AM
I bet Punk wins Money In The Bank and cashes in on Cena at the end of the night

probably not, but it would be sweet

VSG
06-28-2011, 12:23 AM
* WWE United States Champion Dolph Ziggler & Vickie Guerrero come out. Vickie says since it's the birthday of the United States that the United States Champion deserves a birthday party too. Dolph says while he is champion the US title is the only one that matters. Kofi Kingston comes out and says Ziggler can't beat him without Vickie. They brawl and Vickie gets pushed into a cake.


Please get back to the main story. I bet Vince or someone comes out at the end to address Punk's scenario.

VSG
06-28-2011, 12:47 AM
* Alex Riley b. The Miz with a schoolboy pin. After the match, The Miz attacks Riley by throwing him to the crowd and into the steel ring steps. He throws him through the announce table and delivers a boot to the face. Miz walks away after the assault.

* Mr. McMahon comes out to discuss the suspension of CM Punk. He says he deserved it when John Cena comes out. Cena asks what happened to Vince the fighter and wants to know if Punk got under his skin.

Ok, NOW we are talking :D

VSG
06-28-2011, 12:53 AM
* McMahon says the real reason he suspended CM Punk is because he didn't want him to walk out of WWE with the title. Cena says what if he says something about people being replaceable. Cena throws the belt at Vince and walks away. McMahon reinstates Punk but says if Cena loses at Money in the Bank, he's fired.


YAA BOIIIIII, ITS ON NOW!!!!!

Xero
06-28-2011, 12:54 AM
I just don't get it. How can John Cena be so fucking good that he's going to bat for Punk? I mean, it's like he's the ultimate Superhero who can do no wrong, and will even save his foes.

VSG
06-28-2011, 12:55 AM
No way Cena gets "fired" twice within an year.

Xero
06-28-2011, 12:56 AM
lol so basically if Cena loses, he's fired.

Way to make it obvious Cena's winning. Like, you can't even leave that little bit of hope alive?

Xero
06-28-2011, 12:56 AM
lol so basically if Cena loses, he's fired.

Way to make it obvious Cena's winning. Like, you can't even leave that little bit of hope alive?

VSG
06-28-2011, 01:14 AM
Last bit remaining:

Dark Match Main Event:

* WWE Champion John Cena leaves and comes back out. R-Truth challenges him to a match. Cena says since they are in Las Vegas he's giving R-Truth a minute to beat him. Cena says if he can't beat him in the time frame he'll give R-Truth $100. Cena beat R-Truth in ten seconds after hitting the Attitude Adjustment.

Xero
06-28-2011, 01:16 AM
I will say that they did set up SummerSlam nicely with this show.

VSG
06-28-2011, 01:18 AM
How so? No way Cena loses now, and then there is no real reason for HHH to challenge Punk.

Emperor Smeat
06-28-2011, 01:20 AM
I just don't get it. How can John Cena be so fucking good that he's going to bat for Punk? I mean, it's like he's the ultimate Superhero who can do no wrong, and will even save his foes.

What makes it even odder is that Punk is leading the same group that last year tried to destroy Cena during their rebellion with the WWE. Even though the only similarities between the new Nexus and original Nexus is in name only, they still are following the same goal of helping their leader and causing chaos.

Logically, Cena shouldn't even care if Punk is "fired" since now Nexus is leaderless and no longer any potential threat to him while his new threat is Del Rio.


:rofl: at how random that Ryder moment sounds.

Xero
06-28-2011, 01:23 AM
How so? No way Cena loses now, and then there is no real reason for HHH to challenge Punk.

Del Rio won a number one contender's match, but it's been taken out from under him. It sets him up perfectly.

What Would Kevin Do?
06-28-2011, 01:32 AM
How so? No way Cena loses now, and then there is no real reason for HHH to challenge Punk.

Hate to say it, I'm not so sure. I'm probably looking too far into things, but if Vince was willing to let Punk go out on live TV and do that, is it that hard to believe Punk could walk away with the title?

This is a HOT angle now. Do you really think it's just going to end dead in a few weeks?

VSG
06-28-2011, 01:34 AM
If it involves just these 2 players, then yes. If the MitB winner or someone else gets involved before MitB ends, then its a whole new game.

Xero
06-28-2011, 01:37 AM
Would they really do the Cena's "fired" angle again, though, so soon? And to make it effective you need Cena out for longer than a month, even if he was just "fired" and fucking around like he did with Nexux. If SummerSlam wasn't the next PPV after MITB I'd buy it, but I just can't see it now. They can't have Cena off their second biggest PPV.

If there were more time, I could see Punk winning, taking the belt hostage for a few months with vignettes about his life with the belt (taking it to ROH and Japan even) and finally have Vince realize he needs Cena to save his belt.

The Cena's Fired clause really solidifies Punk's loss for me.

What Would Kevin Do?
06-28-2011, 01:37 AM
I'm just thinking, with their being the rumor about HHH retiring, and one of the people rumored to be his last match being Punk, the whole set up strikes me as too good to just "end."

It doesn't make sense. Any writer in the WWE has got to see the potential in this, especially since Punk's contract really doesn't end on Sunday night.

On a total side note, there's a rumor going around that the King of Wrestling have been offered WWE contracts...

Skippord
06-28-2011, 02:21 AM
doesn't Cena have a bunch of lingering injuries he has to deal with? thought I read that somewhere

Juan
06-28-2011, 02:22 AM
I've read more than once now that John Cena is wrestling injured. Might not mean much but it makes the thought of Cena losing at lesst possible.

Skippord
06-28-2011, 04:14 AM
glad I didn't just make that up then

Shadrick
06-28-2011, 04:21 AM
The way the worded it, "If Punk walks out of Chicago with the title, Cena is fired" is pretty much code for "Whoever wins MITB is going to cash in and keep the title".

They didnt say "if you lose you're fired." You know the E is very particular with their wording.

Krimzon7
06-28-2011, 05:02 AM
what if we're getting an 'Attitude Era' Screw job? Like what if Punk struck a nerve with the good ole NO CHANCE IN HELL VINCE? WHAT IF Vinny Mac wants the strap on Punk now because he realizes he's what the company needs? Only for HHH to come in and save the day, bring the boss back to his senses and still lose at summerslam?

Mr. Nerfect
06-28-2011, 05:03 AM
Yeah, I also read in a report that it wasn't "if Cena loses," but "if Punk leaves as WWE Champion." Therefore, it does pretty much keep alive hope that Punk will win, but then get Kofi Kingston'd or Alberto Del Rio'd or something. Probably Del Rio'd.

But imagine if CM Punk did leave Chicago the WWE Champion. Imagine if he did have someone cash in against him, but got himself disqualified, so they won, but Punk kept the title? Imagine if Punk revealed that this was all a plan to just get John Cena out of the WWE.

The MAC
06-28-2011, 06:10 AM
random thoughts :
1. this cena being fired thing just kills what CM punk accomplished with the worked-shoot.

2. whats the over/under on Russo getting all excited and booking TNA workshoots for the next 6 months?

3. Why not have CM punk win and walk out with the title. Let the WWE have one title for a few months. Punk returns at suvivor series and Vince screws him there.

Vastardikai
06-28-2011, 06:23 AM
Or, what if Punk has actually re-signed already and they're working us?

Tazz Dan
06-28-2011, 06:55 AM
IT'S STING

Evil Vito
06-28-2011, 07:47 AM
<font color=goldenrod>If they do have the Raw MITB winner cash in on Punk right away to keep the belt in WWE/save Cena - it's gotta be Rey I'd imagine. Having a heel do it wouldn't have the same effect, and I can't see them having Kofi Kingston as WWE Champion leading into Summerslam.</font>

Mr. Nerfect
06-28-2011, 09:46 AM
Yeah, Rey Mysterio would make the most sense. He also has history with Punk, and given that the WWE would like using one MITB to create a new star (Wade Barrett on SmackDown!), they'd probably like the other to further establish a guy that's already been to the top. Could definitely see it being Rey, even though I think Chicago will boo his cash-in out of the building.

It really depends on what the idea behind this angle is. I hope someone sensed the fire of the crowd and how they were hot for anything CM Punk was saying. It was like something out of the Attitude era, and that is in the past, but edgier programming doesn't need to be.

Honestly, in my dream world: CM Punk would win the WWE Title at Money in the Bank after a match where it seems like both have the match nearly won. Cena gets Punk up for the Attitude Adjustment, but CM Punk counters and nails a GTS on Cena for the pin! In my perfect world, Punk would counter a Super Attitude Adjustment into a Pepsi Plunge, but that might be dreaming.

Vince McMahon comes out, and says that he's not going to fire Cena yet, because there is still hope. He introduces us to Kofi Kingston, who won the RAW Money in the Bank, and is cashing in right now. Punk looks worried. Kofi Kingston comes out, and when he gets in the ring and the bell rings, Michael McGillicutty & David Otunga rush to the ring and attack Kofi, causing the disqualification. CM Punk escapes with Otunga & McGillicutty through the crowd.

Vince gets in the ring and is massively pissed off. He fires Cena there and then on the spot, so Cena scoops him up and nails him with an Attitude Adjustment. This allows Cena to take some time off and rest his neck and such.

On RAW, Kofi Kingston is really pissed off at himself, and apologies to the WWE Universe, but says that he beat CM Punk, so in any other world he'd be owed another title match, and all that. Dolph Ziggler comes out and says that he wants to thank CM Punk, because without him on RAW, he's the top champion on RAW. But it was always that way. Kofi says he can beat Dolph now, and in an impromptu match, Kofi does just that, beating Ziggler with Trouble in Paradise. Kofi says that he wants CM Punk back in the WWE, and he's going to insult his manhood each week until he gets back.

Cue "This Fire Burns," but out walk Michael McGillicutty & David Otunga. They say that they know Kofi wants to get his hands on Punk, but it's not going to happen because he's gone. They have a message from CM Punk, though. He will appear on RAW next week via live satellite, just to rub his victory into the WWE Universe. Kofi starts to brawl with David Otunga and his former NXT rookie, but they have the strength in numbers, and Dolph Ziggler helps them out to beat-down Kofi.

The RAW General Manager says that he will offer any amount of money within his limits to get CM Punk back for one match, and he wants CM Punk's answer the following week. Punk shows up on the titantron the following week, and cuts another awesome promo about how he legally has the right to do whatever he wants with the WWE Championship -- including destroy it. He pours Pepsi over it and tosses it into a fire, or something. Punk says that he'll forever be known as the last WWE Champion. Cue Triple H's music, who comes out as Punk is talking over the top "What the hell is this? Keep your big nose out of this," etc. Triple H cuts a promo in the ring about how much the WWE means to him, and it's not just personal these days, but it's business. Triple H lays down some insults at Punk, and perhaps returns a worked shoot-style promo on him. Triple H says that he and Punk never really had much of a match, and he'll offer CM Punk a ton of money if he signs the contract to face him at SummerSlam. Punk says "Hmm, let me think about it. No." Hunter throws in an extra bargaining chip, though. "If you beat me, I'll give you my stock in the WWE. I'll give you my position. Hell, you'll pretty much be guaranteed Chairman." Punk thinks about this, and Triple H says something like "If you really believe you're the best wrestler in the world and deserve to call yourself the last WWE Champion, you'd do it!" Punk accepts. As long as no active member of the WWE roster interferes. Triple H agrees, as long as that means Nexus, as well. Punk agrees and the match is on.

Anyway, at SummerSlam, Punk makes his first actual appearance for the first time live since he left the WWE. Triple H has had a new belt made up, to be presented to him when he wins the WWE Title. Vince McMahon says that the match is going to be one that favours his son-in-law -- No Holds Barred! But people are still banned from ringside. Vince says he's going to stand out here and fire anyone that personally gets in his way. He takes a seat at ringside, and eventually, just as it looks like Triple H is about to win, Vince takes the sledgehammer out of his hands. CM Punk then low blows Hunter, and Vince nails him with the sledgehammer. Punk then gets his hands on the sledgehammer and goes to town on Triple H, as Vince is jumping around hysterically. John Cena makes his way through the crowd and goes right after Vince, as the commentators remind us that "active members of the roster are banned from ringside." Vince's security force tackles Cena, though, and a GTS from Punk finishes things and he's still the WWE Champion.

Basically, the angle plays out that Punk and Vince are each other's buddies, and the plan has always been for Punk to be the Straight-Edge Savior of the WWE, due to his clean lifestyle. Vince can even name-drop drug users that have embarrassed him in the past. Punk says that he had it planned all along. He's the only man truly cunning enough to deserve the moniker "The Cerebral Assassin." He now has stock in the WWE, and he and Vince are going to make it the biggest promotion it can be, WITHOUT Triple H and John Cena there to ruin it.

Punk then feuds with Kofi Kingston, and eventually, John Cena finds his way back into the WWE. Perhaps Punk could even find a way to double-cross Vince, which has Vince re-instating his old Superman. I dunno. I just want Punk to stay around. :(

VSG
06-28-2011, 10:06 AM
I was hoping to read a nice Noid post when I woke up :heart:

VSG
06-28-2011, 10:07 AM
Here's my issue with Rey winning though, MitB is in Chicago who are ravenous fans of CM Punk. I doubt even Rey will be able to get the crowd behind him. It has to be Cena or a surprise HHH who earlier in the night replaced one of the MitB contestants.

DAMN iNATOR
06-28-2011, 10:19 AM
Would they really do the Cena's "fired" angle again, though, so soon? And to make it effective you need Cena out for longer than a month, even if he was just "fired" and fucking around like he did with Nexux. If SummerSlam wasn't the next PPV after MITB I'd buy it, but I just can't see it now. They can't have Cena off their second biggest PPV.

If there were more time, I could see Punk winning, taking the belt hostage for a few months with vignettes about his life with the belt (taking it to ROH and Japan even) and finally have Vince realize he needs Cena to save his belt.

The Cena's Fired clause really solidifies Punk's loss for me.

Why wouldn't/shouldn't they do it over again? It'd give his fans just as much reason to bitch about him being fired as the people who are bitching right now are about Punk's "suspension". That and it keeps the title scene fresh if Del Rio or somebody who's never held the world title, holds it and defends it for a while. Still PLENTY of time between now and WM XXVIII.

Xero
06-28-2011, 10:20 AM
My problem is the fact that they wouldn't want Cena off SummerSlam. They need him on SummerSlam.

Innovator
06-28-2011, 10:23 AM
My dream scenario: Either Cena winning, or MITB winner beating Punk. Then around Survivor Series, Vince brings Punk back as his new chosen one, basing everything off of Vince loving guys who stand up for themselves. This leads to Austin coming back, setting up Punk vs. Austin at Mania.

VSG
06-28-2011, 10:26 AM
If only :'(

RP
06-28-2011, 10:34 AM
What if cm punk eats rey mysterios cum?

Innovator
06-28-2011, 10:41 AM
It'd give new meaning to the phrase Booyaka.

The Jayman
06-28-2011, 10:44 AM
6<s>1</s>9

Xero
06-28-2011, 10:46 AM
Crossing out the 1 makes it look like a T.

Six T Nine

VSG
06-28-2011, 11:03 AM
Sixty Nine

69

TazFTW86
06-28-2011, 11:11 AM
Here's my issue with Rey winning though, MitB is in Chicago who are ravenous fans of CM Punk. I doubt even Rey will be able to get the crowd behind him. It has to be Cena or a surprise HHH who earlier in the night replaced one of the MitB contestants.
He'll get booed from the crowd too

VSG
06-28-2011, 11:13 AM
To a much lesser extent, I would believe. Production can't really do much to control booing on a live show.

Xero
06-28-2011, 11:15 AM
I've caught piped in cheers on live shows in the past. So it's possible.

Shadrick
06-28-2011, 11:32 AM
Montreal Screwjob Pt 2.

Rock Bottom
06-28-2011, 06:53 PM
hear is what i think will hapen

1st thry intriduce them n they fight 4 a while n cm punk have jon cena down n out but cm punk do everything he can to win jo cena an cant do it what 1 2 kick out how do he kick out of THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and then jut when u think jon cena is dead cm punk go 4 go 2 sleep n jon cena go "ahhhhhhhhhh" n atatude ajustment him 1 2 3

Either that, or CM Punk will not only win but have the Nexus destroy whoever the MITB winner is ahead of time.

As far as John Cena being off for SummerSlam, it's doable, and they're not going to start tossing furniture out the window if they have Cena take off for a little while.

Rock Bottom
06-28-2011, 06:59 PM
Let us also observe that people have been chanting "Cena sucks" in a chant with "Let's Go Cena" for a pretty long time now, and that CM Punk has been getting mixed reactions not too far off from Cena's.

Punk can face turn. He had to basically tell the crowd not to cheer for him during that promo, something Rock has had to do a couple of times and we all know how well that worked out.

Either way, this is interesting stuff. Punk also mentioned The Rock. I don't think that's an accident.

What Would Kevin Do?
06-28-2011, 07:05 PM
If CM Punk sticks around, he could end up being the next Austin, which is funny, considering the twitter feud and the shirt he wore Monday.

Don't get me wrong, CM Punk is and will always be the first CM Punk. What I mean is that he could end up being the first real anti-hero WWE has had since Austin. Someone who is willing to call it like he sees it, give shit to everyone, including management, and just not care. The closest they have to that is Orton, but Orton is more of the bad boy face.

Punk could be the guy that adults want to cheer, and they could do it without changing his character much at all. It won't happen, but it'd be cool.

Imagine how huge it would be if at the end of MitB, McMahon comes out and demands Punk give him the belt, that it's WWE property, etc, only for Punk to give Vince the GTS. People would go nuts.

It won't happen, but it'd be awesome.

Rock Bottom
06-28-2011, 07:23 PM
I think your idea of having an "adult face" is a damn good one. Even if they kept Cena around, they'd get the best of both worlds out of it. If they can blur the line between face and heel again like they did a while back, it would create those sorts of opportunities, and that's what's going on right now just naturally.

People booing the top face, cheering the top heel (sorry Miz fans) and the mixed reactions in general. If shit wasn't so black and white more of these "chant battles" would happen, and when you get people doing shit like that, all of the sudden it becomes more important to support the wrestlers you like.

You can keep your traditional faces and heels, but throw some guys in there who are more "neutral" and I think CM Punk is a great way to start doing that again. If Cena really is any good, he'll be able to keep walking without the stilts.

They can turn and change at the drop of a dime, too. Cena might be their top guy, but he won't be forever. And his weaknesses have been glaring pretty hard lately. I hope they're ready to try to move past this guy. The WWE is not a box of wheaties.

Supreme Olajuwon
06-28-2011, 07:27 PM
Doesn't all this just seem like Punk's gonna sell out to McMahon to become the champ?

That's what it seems like to me. And all the stuff they've done so far seems to fit into that plan.

Supreme Olajuwon
06-28-2011, 07:31 PM
I mean if Austin is really riding Punk's dick as hard as it seems like he is, I can't imagine that he wouldn't have pitched the idea to Vince.

What Would Kevin Do?
06-28-2011, 07:33 PM
The great thing about the chant battles and everything, is that it makes it seem more like a sporting event. Like UFC, boxing, bowl games, etc. You have a huge crowd, and they're not all for, or all against one guy. It makes an amazing atmosphere, and I think it gets the crowd into it a lot more. Oppositions makes people thrive, even if that opposition is only someone cheering for someone you don't like.

Mooияakeя™
06-28-2011, 07:34 PM
You mean like Corporate champion style?

Supreme Olajuwon
06-28-2011, 07:34 PM
That is EXACTLY what I mean like.

VSG
06-28-2011, 08:05 PM
I wouldn't mind that actually. Allows Cena to become a bigger face, if it's even possible.

Jordan
06-28-2011, 09:05 PM
Dude, Corporate Punk would be sick, going the exact opposite would be sick THERE SEEMS TO BE NO WRONG WAY

ANGLE OF THE YEAR

(no Kurt)

Vastardikai
06-29-2011, 04:04 AM
I believe the whole "Punk hasn't signed yet" is bullshit, as I posted earlier.

That said, this seems to follow the Cornette "7 year rule" to a T. It was almost 7 years ago that ROH ran this angle, with the same major player. Only difference? Bigger audience. I wouldn't doubt that Punk threw this idea out there right before he signed his contract extension. Vince probably added a twist that hasn't played out yet so he could call it his own idea and agreed to it.

Tazz Dan
06-29-2011, 04:26 AM
Did I miss something in the promo? This is from Kurt Angles twitter:

“CM Punk had classic promo last night. Good for Him. But if U ever say another word about Me again, Ur toast! If U don’t believe Me, try Me!”

Mr. Nerfect
06-29-2011, 04:35 AM
I was thinking about this angle today, and the simplest way to carry on from here would be this:

Step 1: Alberto Del Rio wins Money in the Bank.

Step 2: John Cena defeats CM Punk when Triple H returns and helps him out.

I am also of the opinion that an angle this hot wouldn't have Punk leaving so soon. My opinion is that this is even more a work than people think, and that Punk stays with the company. Trips helping out Cena allows him to get some revenge for Punk's words, stand up for the WWE, and sets up Triple H vs. CM Punk for SummerSlam.

Del Rio then cashes in his briefcase and becomes the new WWE Champion -- giving us the rumoured Del Rio vs. Cena match at SummerSlam. I could think of arguably more exciting routes to go, but that feels like it's something the WWE could very easily do.

VSG
06-29-2011, 08:16 AM
No idea what Angle's talking about.

Londoner
06-29-2011, 08:20 AM
No idea what Angle's talking about.

Angle has pretty much lost it. :(

Londoner
06-29-2011, 08:20 AM
I'd like to see CM Punk reply to Angle's twitter comment.

Corporate CockSnogger
06-29-2011, 08:36 AM
Punk mentioned Angle in a Twitter comment a while back after Angle went off on one accusing a bunch of WWE wrestlers (Orton, Swagger) for stealing his moves. Could be that.

VSG
06-29-2011, 08:39 AM
Unless there was a hidden reference in Punk's promo, Angle is nuts.

Londoner
06-29-2011, 08:40 AM
Punk mentioned Angle in a Twitter comment a while back after Angle went off on one accusing a bunch of WWE wrestlers (Orton, Swagger) for stealing his moves. Could be that.

Still doesn't give him a legit reason to be mad, sounds like a 5 year old on twitter.

Skippord
06-29-2011, 09:05 AM
he did call him a sloppy drunk douche

Londoner
06-29-2011, 09:06 AM
poor Angle :(

XL
06-29-2011, 10:59 AM
It works as follows:

1) Person A - in this case Punk - is HUGE news

2) Person B (Angle) says something - usually derogatory - about Person A

3) Person B draws attention to themselves as a result of Person A's current status

Sad to see Angle doing that though.

Rock Bottom
06-29-2011, 11:04 AM
Corporate Punk would make me tingle like peeing

XL
06-29-2011, 01:35 PM
Howabout, Punk wins/Cena is "fired", they both "leave".

Punk goes to ROH with the belt, Cena is seen in the audience "stalking" Punk. Basically, it's the Cena is fired story from the end of last year but with a bit more "reality" added in.

Londoner
06-29-2011, 01:45 PM
Corporate Punk would be fucking great tbh.

Ermaximus
06-29-2011, 03:17 PM
Howabout, Punk wins/Cena is "fired", they both "leave".

Punk goes to ROH with the belt, Cena is seen in the audience "stalking" Punk. Basically, it's the Cena is fired story from the end of last year but with a bit more "reality" added in.

Thus making Raw's top 2 draws Mysterio and Del Rio?

What Would Kevin Do?
06-29-2011, 05:47 PM
Howabout, Punk wins/Cena is "fired", they both "leave".

Punk goes to ROH with the belt, Cena is seen in the audience "stalking" Punk. Basically, it's the Cena is fired story from the end of last year but with a bit more "reality" added in.

One of the WWE's former writers had an interesting idea on a podcast regarding this. It won't happen, but what if Punk "leaves" Cena gets "fired" and they sort of team up.

Punk has his complaints, Cena could go on about how they've put the entire company on his back, focus on him, and don't care about all the other guys who bust their asses. Basically, Cena's just another cog in the machine, but the one that's worked the hardest.

Basically have both guys being "edgier" both outsiders looking in, essentially trying to "change the landscape" of the WWE.

Not saying it'd be great, but it was an interesting thought. Two people, neither employees, trying to change the business.

VSG
06-29-2011, 07:30 PM
Are you talking of, oh I dunno, a sort of 2-Man Power Trip maybe?

What Would Kevin Do?
06-29-2011, 07:35 PM
Are you talking of, oh I dunno, a sort of 2-Man Power Trip maybe?

Pretty much, except they'd be outsiders, sort of rebels against the company, as opposed to it's two biggest stars together with managements good graces.

Juan
07-03-2011, 08:30 AM
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Mr. Nerfect
07-03-2011, 10:12 AM
One of the WWE's former writers had an interesting idea on a podcast regarding this. It won't happen, but what if Punk "leaves" Cena gets "fired" and they sort of team up.

Punk has his complaints, Cena could go on about how they've put the entire company on his back, focus on him, and don't care about all the other guys who bust their asses. Basically, Cena's just another cog in the machine, but the one that's worked the hardest.

Basically have both guys being "edgier" both outsiders looking in, essentially trying to "change the landscape" of the WWE.

Not saying it'd be great, but it was an interesting thought. Two people, neither employees, trying to change the business.

I've read some interesting articles about the WWE's buyrates, ratings and stock lately. Basically, they are down. They did go up for a bit when The Rock was around, but it's proven that this guy from the Attitude era draws more than Cena or Orton do. While many will say "There is no way John Cena turns heel," we're only getting closer to the day.

The WWE has been hitting the panic button lately. That's why they moved up the draft, wasn't it? Cena does a tremendous job keeping the company on his back, but it's pretty clear that while he's generating more money than anyone in the company, something radical needs to happen if the WWE are going to boost the aforementioned things. The WWE likes to play things safe, though.

I think the safe bet is for Triple H to cost CM Punk the WWE Title at Money in the Bank. Triple H has always been a clutch for the WWE to lean on (hell, they pretty much depended solely on him as a heel in 2002 on RAW), and he's been used so sparingly lately that I bet there's minds in the WWE that believe him returning would be an instant pop in ratings, buyrates and such. They'll also probably try to get The Rock for SummerSlam, probably in a Special Guest Referee role in John Cena's main event title match (probably still against Alberto Del Rio).

What that writer has suggested, though, is something creative that could make compelling episodic television. It'd be a MAJOR shake-up. It'd definitely have shades of the nWo, and that was a huge thing. CM Punk and John Cena teaming up as the anti-cogs against Vince McMahon and the machine could be the extra kick the WWE may not need (they're not on life support or anything), but probably want, since the idea of business is to make money. It's a risk, though, and that's not something the WWE does too often.

Now, after watching that video, it's obvious that Vince McMahon is still trying to be a heel. They could have just left Vince McMahon out of the story completely, or had the Anonymous General Manager make the call. Sure, they might just be trying to make it seem like a huge match, but again -- why build up CM Punk so much if he's surely on the way out? A compelling shake-up, without turning Cena, would be to have McMahon aid Punk (as others have suggested), and Punk becomes the new "Face of the Company" in Vince McMahon's eyes.

Then it's a question of why Vince McMahon would want Cena out of the WWE. Maybe someone can provide something really interesting. Maybe he could just call Cena "played out," or something of the like? I dunno. But a Punk and McMahon alliance would be the biggest heat machine of 2011.

Vastardikai
07-03-2011, 10:59 PM
Pipe Dream ,but I'd kill to hear "Miseria Cantare" (sp? the AFI song Punk used in the Indies) for Punk's PPV entrance.

Asmo
07-03-2011, 11:30 PM
@ Vastardikai - Fuck yes. Its works astoundingly well as a call to arms theme, and lyrically is on par, if not better than "This Fire Burns".

The Naitch
07-04-2011, 03:22 AM
even better

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Juan
07-04-2011, 04:46 AM
They already used that song for Stone Cold once. I think it was the HOF promo

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Londoner
07-04-2011, 04:51 AM
^ Awesome song & video.

Rock Bottom
07-04-2011, 05:31 AM
I wonder if Vince McMahon is nutty enough to lead everyone on and try to recreate the attitude era by pissing people off with all this PG shit for years.

Probably not the case but if it were I'd send him a love letter with pictures of my ass.

Rock Bottom
07-04-2011, 05:38 AM
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Holy shit. That laugh at 5:24. It all makes sense to me now. John Cena should never drop the belt again.

The Naitch
07-04-2011, 06:31 AM
lol RB I was expecting something epic, like a John Cena laugh that reveals all of the mysteries of the WWE Universe, but instead we get some laugh that came out of DAMNiNATOR'S mouth

Lock Jaw
07-04-2011, 11:46 PM
Punk as a Corporate Champion, Vince's Choice would be Awesome.

Although. You'd have to come up with a good reason why Vince would want Cena fired, and my extension his huge Wrestlemania main event with The Rock canceled.