View Full Version : Heyman and Lesnar in talks with WWE?
From PWInsider:
We have received a lot of email about a story making the rounds concerning a rumored WWE return for Paul Heyman and Brock Lesnar. I have not seen the original story, only recapped versions that were emailed to me, so I can't comment on what the original author wrote. Mike Johnson and I discussed the situation, with what is true and what isn't, on We Don't Need No Stinkin' Name Show today, which available exclusively to our Elite subscribers.
A few minutes ago, Luke Williamson sent the following tweet from MMA reporter Ariel Helwani. It should be noted that he mentioned the original author of the story but since I have not seen that reporter's version I am deleting his name from what Helwani wrote. Here is his tweet.
"******* report on Heyman/Brock going 2 WWE, according 2 sources, is somewhat inaccurate. What is being discussed is a consumer product deal."
We have heard the same thing as Helwani. In essence, there is a project that both Heyman/Lesnar and WWE would be a party to. For the rest of the story, you can listen to the show we did today or check out tomorrow's edition of The Wrap Up
Sounds like a Lesnar DVD.
HBPunk
06-30-2011, 03:36 PM
Yup it sure does. So is that the thread over?
Lock Jaw
06-30-2011, 03:37 PM
Yeah. Probably a DVD. Way to make the thread title get my hopes up though.
The Jayman
06-30-2011, 03:39 PM
Xero making a risky move during the finals of the KotWF
Nicky Fives
06-30-2011, 04:04 PM
Not a chance in hell..... no way Dana lets this happen.....
HBPunk
06-30-2011, 04:06 PM
No way Dana lets Brock wrestle for WWE for a few years in the early 2000's so they have enough Footage to make a DVD?
I would suggest there is more than enough to make a very good Lesnar DVD and could certainly see it being a good way for the two parties to build bridges. Almost like the first step to something else. Sort of in the way I viewed Bret's DVD.
DAMN iNATOR
06-30-2011, 04:41 PM
Yeah he had a DVD release, but it was EONS ago. Not hard to recall the Here Comes The Pain! subtitle either, especially since it's the subtitle of one of the best SD! games to date.
Anybody Thrilla
06-30-2011, 04:56 PM
Man, I just started thinking about a Punk/Lesnar/Heyman stable on Raw and I shit myself with delight. Now, I have thread reader's remorse.
captaincharismark
06-30-2011, 08:35 PM
It would be cool if they did release either a Lesnar or Heyman dvd. That wouldn't surprize me since CM Punk mentioned them Monday. Smart on the WWE's part if there's any truth to it. I have to admit I was disappointed when I read they would only have a "business" relationship with WWE. Not having either as on scteen characters or wrestler in Brock's case sucks completely.
Anybody Thrilla
06-30-2011, 09:09 PM
I wonder what matches would be on a Paul Heyman DVD.
Emperor Smeat
06-30-2011, 09:28 PM
Heard it might only be a Lesnar DVD covering the time he had Heyman as manager but if it is indeed 2 separate DVDs, the Heyman one would sound great.
It could end up being something similar to what Heyman did on Rise & Fall of ECW but more in depth on his tenure in WCW and WWE. He already went in depth on the work he did both on screen and backstage while in ECW so it would be great if he did something similar for his WCW and WWE runs.
CM Punk DONT GO
06-30-2011, 09:35 PM
I'm a Heyman guy. HE should come back. Lesnar is alright but MMA is fake.
ron the dial
06-30-2011, 09:37 PM
can't be real
ahhh see, with 'MMA is fake', you went with the 'ridiculous comment' too early. You have to work your way up to these things, really draw people in before dropping La Ridique on them :-\
CM Punk DONT GO
06-30-2011, 09:38 PM
its scripted just like the pro wrestling is. My friends brother is all into it but i told him its fake so he stopped watching.
Theo Dious
06-30-2011, 11:53 PM
Yeah he had a DVD release, but it was EONS ago.
I keep seeing in the $5 bin at Wal-Mart. I think it's dated 2004.
Theo Dious
06-30-2011, 11:55 PM
Not a chance in hell..... no way Dana lets this happen.....
No way Dana lets Brock wrestle for WWE for a few years in the early 2000's so they have enough Footage to make a DVD?
HBPunk doubts Dana White's power at his own peril.
captaincharismark
07-01-2011, 12:10 AM
I wonder what matches would be on a Paul Heyman DVD.
Obviously a Heyman DVD would be more about his work as a promoter and his on screen character. Not too hard a concept to grasp, considering a similar one of Vince McMahon and Eric Bischoff have been released. WWE's all about cashing in on popular people from their past, and I'm sure releasing a DVD on Heyman/Lesnar or Heyman/ECW could be profitable(as much so as any other lame attempt to cash in on the Attitude era like WCW).
I loved the Eric Bishoff DVD
Jordan
07-01-2011, 12:26 AM
They will probably promote his book and make a DVD, don't get your hopes up for more.
Mr. Nerfect
07-01-2011, 01:51 AM
Yeah, it'll probably be a DVD and perhaps some sort of cross-promotion deal. Lesnar won't actively wrestle. Although, Lesnar being punked out by someone could lead to a great moment. I mean, imagine if even someone like Zack Ryder "knew Lesnar can't touch anybody," and had the balls to offend him as Heyman held Lesnar back. Then Heyman mouths off to Ryder and gets a slap across the face for his trouble.
Just a random example.
HBPunk
07-01-2011, 06:09 AM
HBPunk doubts Dana White's power at his own peril.
I do indeed. MMA is so lame, it could not be more boring, several minutes of guys dry humping eachother into an armbar aint my cup of tea. Its a nice cup of gay tea alright. Im pretty baffled by its popularity. WWE wins hands down all day long, it may be choreographed but at least its exciting.
Rammsteinmad
07-01-2011, 06:31 AM
It's unlikely, but there's always a chance it's some kind of likeness issue. Maybe they want to release a Brock Lesnar action figure or include him as a legend on WWE 12. It's unlikely with Brock being in UFC, but stranger things have happened.
Rammsteinmad
07-01-2011, 06:33 AM
Of course, with the news sites always blowing things way out of proportion, 'Heyman and Lesnar in talks with WWE' could just be Heyman and Lesnar stopping by the WWE HQ for a coffee and a catch-up. :p
HBPunk
07-01-2011, 07:35 AM
Haha could be just that alright :)
Never watched TNA but my word Daffney is mingin
Rammsteinmad
07-01-2011, 07:58 AM
Never watched TNA but my word Daffney is mingin
I wouldn't say she's minging, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't jump on the 'OMGZ DAFFNEY IS HAWT!!!' bandwagon when she appeared in TNA.
Mr. Nerfect
07-01-2011, 09:28 AM
It would benefit the WWE greatly to use Paul Heyman in a meaningful role.
Rammsteinmad
07-01-2011, 09:37 AM
:rofl:
HBPunk
07-01-2011, 06:10 PM
Paul Heyman. . . PG TV. . .hmmm that might not work
Yes because raunchy storylines was the only reason Heyman's booking worked.
HBPunk
07-01-2011, 06:16 PM
who said that?
HBPunk
07-01-2011, 06:17 PM
Paul Heyman is a genius and im not doubting that but his character needs to be himself and PG wont allow that. Not saying it wont work for sure but id like him to express himself as only he can
Heyman doesn't need to say "fuck" to get over.
I honestly fail to see your argument against his character not working in a PG environment. Like, other than a few innuendos and swear words, how does his character not work? He's a manager. He manages people. Look at the Lesnar/Heyman run and tell me what wasn't PG there in terms of what Heyman said/did.
HBPunk
07-01-2011, 06:42 PM
Heyman doesn't need to say "fuck" to get over.
I honestly fail to see your argument against his character not working in a PG environment. Like, other than a few innuendos and swear words, how does his character not work? He's a manager. He manages people. Look at the Lesnar/Heyman run and tell me what wasn't PG there in terms of what Heyman said/did.
First off, i was thinkin of Heyman as a GM type if he were to return. And as i said it could work but the Heyman we all know and love is a kinda 'loose cannon' type. He will always be the guy who ran ECW and just hearing him speak reminds people of that. Id have to analyse the entire Lesnar/Heyman run but i recall him screaming his head off at Brock when he thought he couldn't beat Big Show and some of his words and comments weren't PG. Look im not saying it has to be TV-14 for Heyman to work but thats the idea we all have cos of ECW and im sure people would immediately bring it up if he started saying 'poo poo' instead of 'shit'
Anybody Thrilla
07-01-2011, 06:44 PM
Obviously a Heyman DVD would be more about his work as a promoter and his on screen character. Not too hard a concept to grasp, considering a similar one of Vince McMahon and Eric Bischoff have been released. WWE's all about cashing in on popular people from their past, and I'm sure releasing a DVD on Heyman/Lesnar or Heyman/ECW could be profitable(as much so as any other lame attempt to cash in on the Attitude era like WCW).
Don't get lippy with me, dick mouth. I'm just assuming that a wrestling DVD would have wrestling matches on it.
Mr. Nerfect
07-01-2011, 07:31 PM
Heyman could definitely work in a PG environment. The guy doesn't need to swear to get over. When he's allowed to, he'd probably swear like a sailor stuck in a chimney, but he doesn't need that. Heyman, above all, just knows how to accentuate strengths. His booking in OVW made it a better product than the WWE for a while. Two feuds stand out to be in that regard: The CM Punk vs. Brent Albright vs. Ken Doane feud over the OVW TV Title. One of the best three-way storylines I can ever remember. Basically, I remember CM Punk tapping out so suddenly to Albright's Crowbar one week, and then explaining "Yeah, I tapped out to you, Brent. I love my arm, and I don't want you to have it." The other stand-out was Johnny Jeter vs. Matt Cappotelli (make sure you read the backstory):
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The culmination of the feud, I believe, was a 2/3 Falls Match for the OVW Heavyweight Championship between Johnny Jeter and Matt Cappotelli. Then Jeter cut his hair and joined The Spirit Squad...
HBPunk
07-01-2011, 07:40 PM
Heyman could definitely work in a PG environment. The guy doesn't need to swear to get over. When he's allowed to, he'd probably swear like a sailor stuck in a chimney, but he doesn't need that
Ok but he hasn't yet so we are both right. its all hearsay anyway cos he wont ever be back in WWE
HBPunk
07-01-2011, 07:41 PM
no idea what a sailor would be doin in a chimney either but your probly right that he'd be cursing something fierce
Ok but he hasn't yet so we are both right. its all hearsay anyway cos he wont ever be back in WWE
Early 90s WCW.
HBPunk
07-01-2011, 07:52 PM
Yeah he was so over there!
captaincharismark
07-02-2011, 08:57 PM
Don't get lippy with me, dick mouth. I'm just assuming that a wrestling DVD would have wrestling matches on it.
Wow, awesome comeback:rofl: You know what they saying about assuming asshole? All wrestling DVD's don't have wrestling matches. You must not remember the Vince McMahon or Eric Bischoff dvd's WWE released years ago. Correct me if I'm wrong, but neither of those dvd's had WRESTLING MATCHES. So, your assumption is faulty at best. If a WWE personality is popular enough, WWE will release it to make a profit off of it. Heyman definately fits that mold, so the idea of a Heyman DVD isn't that farfetched...
Assuming Asshole sounds like a really bad cartoon.
And correct me if I'm wrong but an Eric Bischoff DVD doesn't exist and Vince McMahon's DVD had like 9 WRESTLING MATCHES. What was it you were saying about assuming again?
captaincharismark
07-02-2011, 09:27 PM
I think you missed your calling pal. Assuming Asshole a carton? Wow, you should've been a creative writing major.
As far as the Bischoff DVD, I'm pretty sure they did release one a number of years ago.(Which I believe was the Monday Night Wars DVD). The McMahon dvd did have wrestling matches, but my point on that was no one bought that DVD for the matches(I never bought it period). If you did, I wanna know why you consider that a wrestling classic. And surely a Heyman dvd wouldn't be any worse than that. I for one would like to see it. And me assuming? Again another witty remark, I was using past dvd's that were non wrestling based and more character based to illistrate a point. You on the other hand, were being a smartass for no general reason. Who's the one assuming? Draw your own conclusions...
HBPunk
07-03-2011, 12:29 PM
Assuming Asshole sounds like a really bad cartoon
That'd be such a brilliant name, you would simply have to watch it. So does he get into trouble when he assumes stuff or is he just a bit of a cock in the way he makes assumptions? Either way, i'd be tuning in for the premiere
I think you missed your calling pal. Assuming Asshole a carton? Wow, you should've been a creative writing major
You should be a spelling major
As far as the Bischoff DVD, I'm pretty sure they did release one a number of years ago.(Which I believe was the Monday Night Wars DVD)
No they didnt and no it wasn't. This guy really is off to a good start
Anybody Thrilla
07-03-2011, 12:33 PM
Wow, awesome comeback:rofl: You know what they saying about assuming asshole? All wrestling DVD's don't have wrestling matches. You must not remember the Vince McMahon or Eric Bischoff dvd's WWE released years ago. Correct me if I'm wrong, but neither of those dvd's had WRESTLING MATCHES. So, your assumption is faulty at best. If a WWE personality is popular enough, WWE will release it to make a profit off of it. Heyman definately fits that mold, so the idea of a Heyman DVD isn't that farfetched...
I never said that the idea of a Heyman DVD was farfetched. I was simply musing out loud what matches would be on a Heyman DVD, assuming there would be any matches. You're the one that started to be a dickhead about it.
HBPunk
07-03-2011, 12:35 PM
AT this guy is a fucking clown, he'd argue with his left hand if his right one would let him
Anybody Thrilla
07-03-2011, 12:38 PM
I demand satisfaction.
HBPunk
07-03-2011, 12:43 PM
I think there is some near Wendy's in Battle Creek but that could be a rumour as i'v never been to B.C....like Hulk Hogan
Anybody Thrilla
07-03-2011, 12:45 PM
Truck Stop Tour 2011
HBPunk
07-03-2011, 12:59 PM
I read recently that the only thing gayer than truckers is in fact Justin Bieber, followed by Justin Gabriel. I actually like Gabriel and he's awful pretty
captaincharismark
07-05-2011, 03:39 PM
That'd be such a brilliant name, you would simply have to watch it. So does he get into trouble when he assumes stuff or is he just a bit of a cock in the way he makes assumptions? Either way, i'd be tuning in for the premiere
Yeah, I'd watch it, if I wanted to waste time. Judging by the reaction here, assuming asshole isn't just a cartoon, it's a theme. Imagine that at a wrestling forum:rofl:
You should be a spelling major
Once again you have proved to be a creative person. Must've been real popular in school...
No they didnt and no it wasn't. This guy really is off to a good start
I'd say I was off to a good start, considering I was on topic. You on the other hand, proved my point. Assholes will be assholes:n:
HBPunk
07-05-2011, 03:47 PM
yeah im an asshole. but you're a fucking bellend which is the most redundant piece of a cock. without assholes we'd all die out
captaincharismark
07-05-2011, 03:56 PM
yeah im an asshole. but you're a fucking bellend which is the most redundant piece of a cock. without assholes we'd all die out
Well, you can't have one without the other:D This is a internet wrestling forum. How would we survive without cocks or assholes??? Boggles the mind:wtf:
Sepholio
07-06-2011, 03:54 PM
I'm calling this as Lesnar and Heyman having their likenesses inserted into a future video game, possibly even WWE 12 or whatever it is called this year. They could easily be added to the legends section, but I imagine Heyman as some kind of secret manager or something. Just a thought, anyways.
captaincharismark
07-06-2011, 03:58 PM
I'm calling this as Lesnar and Heyman having their likenesses inserted into a future video game, possibly even WWE 12 or whatever it is called this year. They could easily be added to the legends section, but I imagine Heyman as some kind of secret manager or something. Just a thought, anyways.
I'd say more than likely Heyman/Lesnar being involved with WWE is about either a dvd project or video game. Not too many choices if you aren't an on screen character or wrestler.
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