15 Years Later: The nWo Forms

[Xero]

15 years ago, on July 7, 1996, one of the most important turns in wrestling occurred, and in turn formed one of the most famous, as well as infamous groups in Pro Wrestling History, the new World order.

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What if Hogan wasn't the third man? Was Hogan the best choice?

Also, what is the nWo's legacy? Was it good, bad or maybe both for the industry? Whose side is he on? Who were the best/worst members and moments of the nWo?

Discuss the nWo and Hogan's heel turn in general in here.

[CSL]

The first few weeks/months/a year of Nitro leading up to and after the formation of the nWo is still the greatest period of wrestling in television history, beats anything from the Attitude era, from the late 80's (my favourite era) etc. And I was always a 'WWF fan'.

[screech]

One of the most shocking heel turns for sure, if not the most.

[screech]

I'll always be a fan of the nWo, despite the "spinoff" factions and ridiculous number of members. Awesome idea that took wrestling to new heights.

[screech]

Felt a little Providence Peep-ish with that last sentence, but couldn't think of any other way to put it.

[SuperSlim]

Hogan turning cemented it. It made him relevant again and it made the group that much stronger cause now they have the top guy and turned him. Nobody else could have pulled off the third man better than Hogan.

NwO will continue to live on as one of the biggest, best and worst storylines. Only worst cause it went on forever when it needed to stop. But leading up to it and that night... the best thing done. Only thing that rivals that in WCW is the Sting/Hogan buildup to Starrcade.

Outsiders were the best members of nWo. They just worked too well together.

[BizarroKing]

The various Logos

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Original/nWo Hollywood

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nWo Wolfpac

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nWo Elite/nWo Reunion/Mega nWo

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nWo Silver/nWo 2000

I dunno the silver color was kind of neat.

[Lock Jaw]

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NEW WORLD ORDER

[Supreme Olajuwon]

LOL I forgot about Tony Schiavone's sign off of that PPV. Tremendous. Schiavone for all the shit he gets really did a wonderful job creating an atmosphere of panic and chaos on every show that year.

[VSG]

Biggest regret of my wrestling life was to never know WCW existed till after it went down and got bought by Vince.

[Jimmy King]

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NEW WORLD ORDER

this made my night haha i miss shit like this nwo ftw

[Shisen Kopf]

That was pretty cool. If the WWE were smart, they'd do something similar with Cena because like Hogan in 1996 he is so stale and cheesy. nWo was super awesome sports entertainment. But...I gotta go with DX over them though.

[CSL]

first Nitro after Hogan turned was opened with a quick recap and hype job for the 2nd hour that would ft. Hogan from Schiavone and Zbysko before 10-12 minutes of Rey/Malenko. Glorious

[Razzamajazz]

the kids at my school talking about the nwo in late 96 were a big part of me getting into rasslin

[CSL]

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best segment ever

[CSL]

going to fill this thread with chronological nWo videos tomorrow like the big fat nWo mark that I am

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Scotty Riggs plays an excellent corpse.

[Aaronp43]

NWO was one of the best groups ever that is what made watching wrestling so fun

[HBPunk]

The Hogan turn was fucking magic, the next few months were great, the theme song was awesome but thats it.

DX > nWo anyway

[MVP]

Hogan was the right man to lead the nWo. Like SuperSlim said, it made him relevant again because Hulkamania had long been stale, and fans started to cheer for him again even though he would rip the audience.

[Anybody Thrilla]

All I can think to say right now is "Buff Bagwell".

[Rammsteinmad]

Was a complete mark back in the day, so I always hated the NWO (including the 2000 version). But looking back, no doubt they changed the industry and blah blah blah it's all been said before.

[corywards]

anybody watched that best of Nitro yet? it's 95% nWo, 2% Goldberg and 3% 4 Horeseman/DDP/Sting

anyway, nWo was the shit in 96. they fell off when they started adding the entire fucking roster in.

[CSL]

first Nitro after Hogan turned was opened with a quick recap and hype job for the 2nd hour that would ft. Hogan from Schiavone and Zbysko before 10-12 minutes of Rey/Malenko. Glorious

this is followed by a Steiners/Nasty Boys promo ft. Scott calling Knobbs 'fatso' and talking about how he respects their "wrestling ability" (lol) which in turn is followed by a hype VP for the soon to debut Glacier :'(

[HBPunk]

anybody watched that best of Nitro yet? it's 95% nWo, 2% Goldberg and 3% 4 Horeseman/DDP/Sting

Well said Naitch but was there anybody else in WCW besides those guys?!

[Lock Jaw]

What about Raven?

[corywards]

ok HBPunk its been cute, wtf is a Naitch?

[HBPunk]

a naitch was a terrible gimmick some tit(ahem) had on here. What about raven?!

[CSL]

still watching that Nitro, love the way they sold the angle throughout the entire show, with "reports" of a black limo pulling up in the back, Bischoff being worried about the show being open air/at Disney because some kids might get hurt if shit kicks off, everybodies promos mentioning it, cutting to shots of the limo, Brain not initially being worried because of the size of the roster etc, outstanding

[CSL]

end of the first Nitro after the turn

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[Emperor Smeat]

One of the best moments in wrestling especially with how legitimately angry the crowd was at Hogan when he turned. Hogan's heel turn might have been the best of all time with how shocked and then riot-like the crowd became during the whole incident.

NwO Wolf Pak was my favorite version with NwO 2000 being led by Jarret as the worst.

NwO ended up being both good and bad with the good being the short term boost in popularity of WCW and forcing the WWF to develop new stars since all of the older stars had jumped to WCW.

The bad being that the main events was still dominated by the same older stars and the NwO was pushed too strong with no real equal on the WCW. Also the lack of WCW to push any younger talent besides Goldberg until it was too late.

[Sixx]

Of course Hogan was the best third man choice.

Otherwise it might've been just another few-month stable that people forget.

[CSL]

2nd Nitro after the turn. First 2 minutes of the first vid is Hall and Nash covering the WCW letters on the set with sheets that have 'NWO' on them. 2nd vid is the closing segment/the 'birth' of the New World Order.

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[Steveviscious89]

Absolutely Hogan was the right man for the job.....I have been watching old Nitro's from before, during, and after the formation of the nWo, and Hogan was actually getting booed most of the time before he left for a couple months before the heel turn. It was the right call and pretty decent timing. Plus, this ushered in the era of WCW where more real characters were being used.

I will say though that the first few months of the nWo were a pretty fragile time because Hogan didn't have all of his act together right away went it first started. I watched his first match as Hollywood with the Giant and he didn't really have any moves or special taunts yet for being Hollywood, he just kinda walked to the ring and did the heel thing during the match. The ball really got rolling after Halloween Havoc though.

The nWo was the first major faction in wrestling to pose a threat to an entire company, and it will probably be the last. There's no way this can be done again to the same reaction it got. The nWo did not hurt WCW in the end...it was the shortsightedness of its management.

[MoFo]

Heenan ruined the whole thing by saying "whos side is he on"...before that nobody would of even considered uber face Hogan siding with the bad guys. Shame on him.

Wolfpac's music was the greatest thing ever btw.

[CSL]

3rd ep after the turn, 1st vid Sting/Luger/Savage promo, Hall and Nash fuck with the production guys/truck, hinting at a 4th guy. Also has glorious Glacier VP and the legendary homoerotic VP with Jim Powers, Alex Wright and Renegade. 2nd vid was a quick Savage, Luger, Sting promo about Hogan/nWo to close the show

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[CSL]

4th ep, when it started to get really great. 1st vid has footage of Hall and Nash jumping Sting in the parking lot on WCW Saturday Night from the week before about 2/3 mins in. 2nd is the first "the following announcement has been paid for by the New World Order. 3rd and 4th vids are the amazing segment that launched everything with Jimmy Hart running into a match to get help, Rey getting lawndarted by Nash, Heenan's "shoot", Savage on the limo, faces and heels together, the corpse of Scotty Riggs and brilliant allusions to a 4th man/making it a focal point

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[CSL]

so many good matches that were given time on these shows, Benoit/Eddie, Rey/Malenko, Eddie/Psychosis, Benoit/Alex Wright, Flair/Jim Powers, Savage/Regal, Chavo/Malenko and a bunch of others ft. Harlem Heat, Kidman, Sting etc and that's only in 5 weeks of TV

[CSL]

5th ep. 1st vid is the opening of the show, shows 4 empty seats in the front row and WCW wrestlers acting as security for other WCW wrestlers, bonus entrance for a tag title match ft. Robert Gibson's manic boss-eye. 2nd vid has Bischoff and Brain "missing" from their spot on the 2nd hour, Luger and Sting going to the 'mystery limo' and a great little Savage promo about Hogan. 3rd is the Horseman destroying Booty Man/Beefcake because of his 'links' to Hogan, a Horseman promo, Kimberley Page's ass looking oustanding and more Beefcake beating. 4th (about halfway through) has a paid announcement and Sting and Luger in the production truck because of it.

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[CSL]

Most of Outsiders/Sting & Luger ft. Nick Patrick first helping the nWo and Hogan/Giant from Hog Wild (hot finish). First time somebody was sprayed, first spraying of the belt, first time Hogan wrestled in black/Hollywood gear, teasing unveiling the 4th man. Best things about the whole thing though might be the culmination of Bobby Heenan's gradual slide into complete drunkeness on commentary after drinking throughout the entire broadcast including full on swaying whilst on camera at the end and Schiavone and Dusty's completely ridiculous outfits at the end.

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been skipping through all of these/watching all the nWo stuff on and off for hours now, done for the night. Still plenty of bumping left to be done here

[Aguakate]

...the nWo is probably the best thing to ever happen to professional wrestling...

...it was just pure awesomeness...

[CSL]

1st Nitro after Hog Wild. 1st vid is nWo interview, confirm 4th and 5th members. 2nd is Hogan promo about Flair/Clash of the Champions. 3rd and 4th is Hogan vs. Flair from Clash of the Champions 3 days after Nitro.

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[CSL]

so many good matches that were given time on these shows, Benoit/Eddie, Rey/Malenko, Eddie/Psychosis, Benoit/Alex Wright, Flair/Jim Powers, Savage/Regal, Chavo/Malenko and a bunch of others ft. Harlem Heat, Kidman, Sting etc and that's only in 5 weeks of TV

To add to this, Eaton/Benoit, Regal/Malenko, Rey/Ultimo Dragon, Flair/Savage and more in the 2-3 weeks afterwards. Got to be the best era for TV matches in the history of wrestling.

[CSL]

2nd Nitro after Hog Wild. Horseman, Luger and Sting agree to team to face nWo at War Games.

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[CSL]

3rd Nitro after Hog Wild. 1st vid Hogan and Outsiders spraypaint production truck. 2nd vid is nWo really "taking over" Nitro for the first time, destroy/spray everybody, first time invading the commentary booth, the oft used shot of Hogan spraying the camera etc + DiBiase debut

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[James Steele]

Best things about the whole thing though might be the culmination of Bobby Heenan's gradual slide into complete drunkeness on commentary after drinking throughout the entire broadcast including full on swaying whilst on camera at the end and Schiavone and Dusty's completely ridiculous outfits at the end.
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:rofl:

[CSL]

4th Nitro after Hog Wild. 1st vid is a paid announcement, red hot promo from Hogan talking about the WCW team for War Games. 2nd is the revealing of the 4th and 5th members ft. clips from throughout the show and a red hot segment at the end for the 5th guy.

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[CSL]

5th Nitro after Hog Wild/1 week before War Games/Fall Brawl. 1st vid has nWo flyering and DiBiase talking to possible 6th member. 2nd is the 6th member revealed + a decent recap of the previous weeks. 3rd vid has a paid announcement towards the end ft. DiBiase. End of the 4th and all of the 5th is the lead in to Fall Brawl/War Games ft. WCW 'coming together' and the Horseman cutting an nWo style promo at the commentary booth to close the show.

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[CSL]

Fall Brawl 1996. End of Savage/Giant ft. Hogan and Outsiders, a Luger, Sting, Horseman promo and WCW vs. nWo War Games match.

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[Emperor Smeat]

Can't forget about the NwO's contribution to games due to the group also being part of what could be the greatest wrestling game engine of all time.

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World Tour might have been first to feature the group but Revenge was the best game featuring the NwO.

[Jordan]

Yo CSL, my boy, please don't stop! I wanna remember!!!!

[Gertner]

Fucking LOVED the NWO. My favourite faction ever.

[CSL]

lol I'm currently "watching" the Nitro after Fall Brawl, I'm gonna be bumping this thread for a long time only some nights I watch a bunch and others none/hardly any at all

[Jordan]

Well I really appreciate it, really cool that we have the capability to do this these days. This was all so long ago and I was so young I hardly remember the details.

[CSL]

First Nitro after Fall Brawl. 1st minute or so of the first 2 vids ft. Syxx's debut. 3rd vid has a Savage promo, nWo segment as well as Savage going nuts. Last 3 vids have surfer Sting's last promo/appearance before declaring himself a free agent/disappearing, leading to Crow Sting and an epic 15 month build to Starrcade 1997, a Horseman/Liz bit, the revealing of the 7th member, another segment 'welcoming' him to the nWo, the nWo planning for the following week, the Horseman 'keeping their word' and so on. I didn't post a great Rey/Juvi match, DDP/Ice Train, Nick Patrick, other nWo 'propaganda' segments and a public announcement, all of Flair/Double A vs. Jericho/Bagwell and all of Benoit/Mongo vs. Luger. Hottttt Nitro, probably the best one I've seen whilst going through these.

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[XL]

Heenan ruined the whole thing by saying "whos side is he on"...before that nobody would of even considered uber face Hogan siding with the bad guys. Shame on him.
That always bugged me. So needless.

[XL]

Also, what's with writing it NwO when all of the official logos are nWo?

[Gertner]

That always bugged me. So needless.

I never thought it did. From the storyline perspective, Hall and Nash had everybody in WCW paranoid about the "3rd guy", so I didn't find that it "spoiled it". I mean, I think we kinda knew what was gonna happen when Hogan came out at the end.

[CSL]

2nd Nitro after Fall Brawl. 1st vid is the show open, explains WCW guys in Japan, nWo propaganda etc. 2nd has a Savage promo about Hogan/nWo/Halloween Havoc. The rest in spoiler tags is almost the entire last hour or so of the show ft. nWo showing up and literally taking over the whole show with the reveal of the 8th member, Giant as the ring announcer and nWo commentators, Bischoff held hostage, a paid announcement, the nWo NASCAR, Outsiders, Syxx, nWo Sting matches and more.

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[CSL]

3rd Nitro after Fall Brawl. 1st vid is the show opening/great Bischoff promo about nWo. 2nd is a paid announcement (ft. Nick Hogan) 3rd has a paid announcement and Double A/Liz promo about her "being there" for Savage. 4th is a paid announcement ft. Kyle Petty. 5th is the paid announcement that closed the show ft. Liz (who left the arena earlier) & Savage.

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[Jordan]

Thanks again man, now I don't have to buy the WCW Nitro DVD lol.

[Jordan]

Also just a general LOL @ The Giant eagerness to be funny ALL THE TIME, and of course never really hitting the mark. What a buffoon he was.

[CSL]

4th Nitro after Fall Brawl/3 weeks before Halloween Havoc. 1st has Outsiders promo at the start/Nick Patrick promo at the end. 2nd is Savage promo making NASCAR more interesting than it's ever been and about Hogan. 3rd is final segment ft. more nWo vs. Savage (ft. Giant, who appeared to actually be trying to kill Savage)/the build to Halloween Havoc.

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[CSL]

Also just a general LOL @ The Giant eagerness to be funny ALL THE TIME, and of course never really hitting the mark. What a buffoon he was.

lol yeah, on one of the vids already posted he's rambling on trying to tell some kind of story/"humourous insult" and Hogan just straight interrupts/cuts him off after a while and does the "best thing going" gimmick instead

[Dirk Ziggler]

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tony schiavone: Don't touch that dial folks, this is going to be the best thread ever!

[CSL]

nWo Saturday Night, 5 days after Nitro, comedy matches basically ft. commentating on their own matches

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[CSL]

2 weeks before Halloween Havoc. First vid has the nWo showing up. 2nd and 3rd are a Nick Patrick promo followed by a Savage/Liz/Bischoff promo/segment. Last 2 are the end of the main event that segues into the final segment ft. all of the nWo hyping Halloween Havoc and the Nasty Boys finding out whether they're in or not.

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[CSL]

lol currently watching the Nitro before Halloween Havoc and Sixx's favourite wrestler Road Block just debuted. He's about to job to Luger.

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[CSL]

The last 20-30 minutes of the Nitro before Halloween Havoc ft. the return of Sting, the nWo, a Hogan/Giant/Liz video, Savage insinuating he might actually murder Hogan, Bischoff in top form, Jerry Lynn and more

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[CSL]

Halloween Havoc 1996. In spoiler tags is Giant vs. Jarrett ft. a DiBiase promo and the Horseman and Syxx vs. Jericho ft. a DiBiase promo and Nick Patrick. Last 3 are the end of Outsiders vs. Harlem Heat for the tag belts and Hogan (looking like Scotty 2 Hotty) vs. Savage, some genius Heenan comments, monster trucks and a big debut at the end that set the ball rolling towards Starrcade

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[CSL]

1st Nitro after Halloween Havoc. First 1 vid has Sting in the rafters watching for the first time and a Syxx promo. Last 3 are the main event and closing segment of the show ft. Booker vs. Luger, more Sting and Hogan, Giant and DiBiase.

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[CSL]

2nd Nitro after Halloween Havoc. 1st 2 videos ft. more Sting in the rafters. 3rd has a Bischoff phone call updating the situation surrounding Hogan and Piper. The last vid is a Hogan promo ft. DiBiase, Giant, Vincent and a clip of the hilarious for the wrong reasons Santa with Muscles.

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[CSL]

3rd Nitro after Halloween Havoc. 1st vid has Sting's first in-ring "appearance" in 2 months. 2nd is an Outsiders/DDP promo about joining the nWo. 3rd is a riot of a segment with Hall, Nash and Syxx "invading" Schiavone's and Zbysko's announce table. 4th is Sting in the rafters. Last one is a really fruity Piper video and a Hogan/DiBiase/Giant promo.

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[CSL]

just got the Best of Nitro DVD, would like to watch it but it'd ruin watching some of these episodes for me :(

[CSL]

Last Nitro before World War 3. 1st vid is a hot opening segment ft. Outsiders and Schiavone/Zbysko. 2nd is a Luger interview during which Sting shows up. 3rd is nWo invading the commentary booth then speaking with DDP. 4th is the final segment ft. Piper showing up on Nitro for the first time to speak to Bischoff, an nWo run-in and the revealing of the latest member.

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[CSL]

World War 3. First 2 are the Starrcade contract signing for Hogan/Piper ft. the nWo. 3rd is a fun match between Jeff Jarrett and The Giant ft. a Sting appearance. 4th is a quick Savage promo. Last one is the last 5 minutes of the 3 ring, 60 man battle royal main event.

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[Kami Raki]

Probably the greatest stable in wrestling history outside the 4 Horsemen.

[CSL]

Nitro after World War 3. 1st vid has a Giant promo interrupting Lex/Arn, 2nd is an nWo promo and the latest member joining, 3rd has a Sting appearance and the last is the main event/closing segment with Faces of Fear vs. Harlem Heat ft. the nWo.

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