Official Raw Thread For 7/11/11 - Why Does Volare Have To Close Tonight?

[Cool King]

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Great, hyped for RAW and I get called in tonight....to close....3-11pm...FML.

Poor guy.

Anyway, as always....

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[Razzamajazz]

punk's lastest raw evar

[Shisen Kopf]

Yeah. No mo punk rasslin on Monday after tonight. Still think this is all a huge work and they have a deal already. Wooooo rasslin!!

[Shadrick]

Woooo last Monday Night raw of kofi not being wwe champion! wooooo rasslin!

[Xero]

Apparently Punk will be opening the show.

From Joey Styles' Twitter:

Tonight on Raw, the now-reinstated & controversial @CMPunk will have a live microphone in hand at 9PM ET on USA Network when Raw kicks off!

[PorkSoda]

Seriously, is there a live feed or stream where I can watch this online?

[Shisen Kopf]

Woooo last Monday Night raw of kofi not being wwe champion! wooooo rasslin!

Woooooo rasslin indeed. Now if only they'd change the name to WRF world rasslin federation. That would be tits.

[Volchok]

Here for the night, really pumped for Raw.

[Shadrick]

Woooooo rasslin indeed. Now if only they'd change the name to WRF world rasslin federation. That would be tits.

Definitely would be the tits bro. *does Kliq finger thing with you*

[Corndad]

Really hope they let Punk be Punk again and don't go all PG on it. Be curious if go with another work shoot with Vince looking at him face to face.

[Providence Peep]

Anyone know if HillBilly Jim is on the card tonight?

[Shisen Kopf]

Hillbilly Jim is the greatest samoan rassler from Kentucky

[Providence Peep]

Hillbilly Jim is the greatest samoan rassler from Kentucky

And that's exactly why I'm bringing a "HillBilly Jim" sign with me to Smackdown tomorrow night.
Why isn't he in the Hall of Fame?!?!

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

hopefully beth phoenix takes on kelly kelly tonight so kelly can stinkface her:)

[Shisen Kopf]

And that's exactly why I'm bringing a "HillBilly Jim" sign with me to Smackdown tomorrow night.
Why isn't he in the Hall of Fame?!?!

Because Vince is messin with a county boy

[ClockShot]

Man got himself a fancy bullhorn there.

[Shisen Kopf]

Awesome, punk has a voice louder machine. Woooo!!

[Corndad]

Tell em Punk.

[Shisen Kopf]

CM Punk should take a year off, get really fat and come back as CM Chunky Brewster.

[Corndad]

Oh shit.

[ClockShot]

You forgot Trump "buying" the company, Punk.

[Londoner]

amazing

[Corndad]

Punk's Kiss my Ass Club. Amazing hahaha

[VSG]

Can't believe how hard I marked for Punk.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Punk on the megaphone "Sir, your music is too loud"

Great promo so far

[Londoner]

WELL SAID PUNK

[JimmyMess]

"when I beat it.... "

[Corndad]

lol Dig at the Belt

[Londoner]

oh shit eddie guerrero mention

did cena ever face eddie?

[Rollermacka]

Is it just me or does this angle starting to feel very "Russo"ish?

[ClockShot]

Just when it was getting good.

[JimmyMess]

That was good. No kiddie kiddie stuff. Jimmy likes

[Emperor Smeat]

oh shit eddie guerrero mention

did cena ever face eddie?

Never for the main belts but he did face him a bunch of times for the IC or US title. I think they also fought in a Parking Lot brawl match as well.

[Shisen Kopf]

I liked that promo until Cena ruined it.

[Londoner]

Never for the main belts but he did face him a bunch of times for the IC or US title. I think they also fought in a Parking Lot brawl match as well.

fuckin good memory you have there then!

[Providence Peep]

Man got himself a fancy bullhorn there.

Methinks he borrowed it from "The Mouth of the South" Jimmy Hart.

[ClockShot]

Handicap match with tag champs.

Not much of a match.

[Aguakate]

CM Punk is awesome. The guy can dish out amazing promos.

[Cool King]

The stream I have is Italian and I can't hear Lawler & Cole, but I've came across a UK stream and I can hear Lawler & Cole.

Also, I feel sorry for the Italians. This is the third time I've had to watch an Italian stream of Raw and during every break, the channel shows a clip from WrestleMania 25 of Kid Rock. :|

[Providence Peep]

Handicap match with tag champs.

Not much of a match.

That's because David Otunga and Michael McGillicutty aren't Rocky Johnson and Tony Atlas. Cena wouldn't stand a chance against them.

[Providence Peep]

My God, a Bruno Sammartino reference :roll:

[Corndad]

I also loved Punk talking about how Cena got fired last year and got brought right back lol

[Rollermacka]

What the hell was that atomic drop/ dropkick combination? That looked like crap

[Innovator]

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[TheFallenOneX]

And the tag team titles die alittle more

[ClockShot]

Heh heh. Dave Lasagna with a history lesson.

[Londoner]

er

isn't this mainly a smackdown feud?!

[Londoner]

odd

[TheFallenOneX]

Is it just me or would anyone like to see a NWA style (the rap group) stable featuring R Truth, Mark Henry, (maybe bring back Shad Gaspar ).

[ClockShot]

So uh, how's Vicki's daughter doing down on the farm?

[TheFallenOneX]

A Drew McIntyre sighting

[Rollermacka]

Looks like Big Show is gonna get his wig split on Sunday.

[Londoner]

A Drew McIntyre sighting

:y:

[Innovator]

Mark Henry hype video? THAT JUST HAPPENED

[Londoner]

Mark Henry hype video? THAT JUST HAPPENED

Means he'll lose on Sunday, just ask Evan Bourne.

[Innovator]

who?

[Aguakate]

LOL

"...tell the world they can go to hell" (Smile)

[Rollermacka]

Divas match, him to flip back to Kill Bill Vol 1

[Corndad]

Wow a Melina sighting now.

[Londoner]

who?

:shifty:

[Innovator]

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[TheFallenOneX]

Wow a Melina sighting now.

:y:

Don't mess with Trish

[Cool King]

So I guess Beth Phoenix Fan will be at least a little bit happy after that Stinkface.

[Innovator]

Kelly stop yelling.

[Londoner]

bet wwe creative think they're fucking hilarious right now on twitter

[Corndad]

Really are they doing an anorexic promo

[TheFallenOneX]

So we get fay jokes about Natalya and now anorexic jokes with Kelly Kelly

[Innovator]

Eve casually jogging for the run in

[TheFallenOneX]

and the worst facebuster in history

[Cool King]

The Bella Twins shouldn't really be in the anti-bullying advert if they're bullying the faces. :-\

[TheFallenOneX]

I think Miz was checking him out

[Rollermacka]

You know what I just noticed? On AMC they censor the word Shit when its used in a derogatory way, but not the word Bitch. That seems strange to me

[Londoner]

Divas match, him to flip back to Kill Bill Vol 1

been watching the argentina match duirng boring bits of raw, glad i did now.

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

So I guess Beth Phoenix Fan will be at least a little bit happy after that Stinkface.

hopefully kelly does stinkface beth soon!

anyone else want to see kelly stinkface beth?

[ClockShot]

Why is Robbie Cano's father pitching to fat ass?

[Innovator]

Why is Robbie Cano's father pitching to fat ass?
Bartolo is in the HR derby?

[Cool King]

You know what I just noticed? On AMC they censor the word Shit when its used in a derogatory way, but not the word Bitch. That seems strange to me

I think it's because the word Shit is generally considered more vulgar than Bitch.

Bitch isn't really that bad a word. A bitch is a female dog afterall and calling someone a dog isn't really than bad. :-\

[ClockShot]

Bartolo is in the HR derby?

No, David Ortiz. You know, the guy who doesn't know how to hustle out of the box?

Also, he just threw a fit because he hated the music that was playing.

[TheFallenOneX]

Michael Cole loves the fail whale

[Londoner]

that ladder looks abit wobbly lol might just be the camera actually.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>This will turn into an 8-man tag with all the MITB participants.</font>

[TheFallenOneX]

STHWAGGER!!!!

[Rollermacka]

Hmm, a Rey Mysterio DVD. I wonder if they'll show some Filthy Animals matches :shifty:

[Cool King]

Swagger. :cool:

[Corndad]

Totally forgot Swagger was in this.

[Cool King]

I still remember.

[Londoner]

whose this guy?

[TheFallenOneX]

holy crap Evan Bourne can talk

[Nark Order]

Swagger is looking more and more like a lesbian each and every week.

[Savio]

Can't believe miz said he was the only champion in the match

[Londoner]

*switches back to game* boring clusterfuck promo

[ClockShot]

Del Rio, please?

[Corndad]

And still no music lol

[ClockShot]

"THAT'S THE TRUTH TRUTH!"

[Corndad]

I freakin love Heel Truth hahahahahahaha

[Cool King]

Acrophobia.

[Savio]

lol

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: R-Truth's fear of Acrophobia somehow being spiders

[Corndad]

Betta be no spiders!!!

[Cool King]

Spiders in briefcases?

Truth. :lol:

[Savio]

The grease will hit the pan

[Corndad]

And here comes the 8 man tag...

[Corndad]

errr... 6 man.

[Nark Order]

lol @ Cole and Lawler legit laughing at Truth.

[Rollermacka]

Your right Kofi, anybody can win MITB and become world champion. Just like WCW World War 3 anybody could have won the world title, that's why I put all my money on Maxx Muscle :roll:

[ClockShot]

Cano in the lead with 20.

Awwwwww yeah. :cool:

[ClockShot]

Del Rio is winning on Sunday.

[Cool King]

I have to say, Raw's MitB Match is the hardest to choose a winner from.

[Corndad]

I would have said Del Rio for the win before he won last week and gaining upperhand tonight as well. I say he loses that but uses #1 contender he won last week at SummerSlam.

Way they are trying to build up, maybe a shock Riley win?

[Innovator]

Wow, little powerwalk from Drew.

[Innovator]

I see Kofi winning the MITB, and building him up.

[Cool King]

I feel like Drew will take the punch and pinfall from Big Show.

Mark Henry possibly attacking Big Show soon after it.

[Innovator]

I always wondered what it'd be like watching Drew McIntyre fight a bear.

[ClockShot]

Are they laughing?

[Corndad]

Wow where the hell did Drew end up under that

[Innovator]

Wow where the hell did Drew end up under that
I think he landed in FCW.

[Corndad]

Touche Inno. Touche.

[Cool King]

I think I just saw the referee that was checking on Drew hold up the X with his arms. :-\

It looked like he landed on or hit some of the lights on his way down.

[ClockShot]

I think he landed in FCW.

Ding ding ding.

[Corndad]

This could be the goods.

[ClockShot]

Are you guys ready to play LET'S MAKE A DEAL!


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[Corndad]

Vince definitely pointed right at the Ryder sign! lol

[Cool King]

Acknowledging a Zack Ryder sign. :cool:

[Londoner]

You've done it before, Vince. :D

[Londoner]

lol 'wonder what cm stands for'

[Corndad]

That walk is dying for a GIF

[Londoner]

hahahahahahaa

[Rollermacka]

Is anyone else digging CP Munks Hogan stash?

[Londoner]

phil!

[Emperor Smeat]

LOL

"I'll kick you in the nuts and you'll like it"

:lol: wanting his own jet since Vince's smells

:yes: WWE Ice Cream bar provision sounds good

[Londoner]

is it me or is this crowd abit off tonight?

[ClockShot]

ICE CREAM BARS!

[Corndad]

WWE Ice Cream bar!!!

[Savio]

lol @ pop for ice cream bars

[Londoner]

million dollars in ice cream sales :cool:

[BizarroKing]

Hell enormous pop for the Ice Cream Bars!

[Savio]

Punk face now?

[Londoner]

crowd getting into this now!

[Corndad]

This is like old Austin/Vince stuff here.

[Londoner]

holy shit hahahaahha

[Corndad]

We want Ice Cream!!

[Londoner]

just boo's for cena

[ClockShot]

CANO WINS! CANO WINS!

[Juan]

Here comes Cena to the rescue to tell Vince to stand up for himself and to not sign the contract

[Rollermacka]

Psh, Cena's gotta always ruin a good thing (we even had a Colt Cabana chant going)

[Londoner]

lol punk going OTT

[ClockShot]

The inevitable Cena heel turn?

[Londoner]

:lol:

[Corndad]

LOL Cena is the Yankees!!

[Savio]

umm

[Riker]

My shit cut out just as punk was talking about Cabana and Gallows, where did it go from there?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I really hope they don't blow this by A. having it end Sunday, or B. having it be a swerve and Punk join up with Vince.

Punk has the fans eating out of the palm of his hand. Yes, it makes sense to turn him back heel eventually (Don't trust a snake promo, etc), but for right now, the crowd is loving that man. Capitalize on it!

[Riker]

I still think its 100 percent he is gone.

[Riker]

which fucking sucks.

[Aguakate]

...After seeing how Punk has just risen to the occassion, and has become the biggest star in the WWE right now, I just can't see how WWE would let him leave.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

My shit cut out just as punk was talking about Cabana and Gallows, where did it go from there?

Punk ripped into Vince for firing people like them, and accused Vince of not knowing how to make a star in 2011, and not knowing what the people want. He then demanded Vince apologize to him, for suspending him, for firing people, etc, etc. Punk called himself "the voice of the voiceless."

Vince finally caved in and apologized.

Cena comes out, makes fun of them for bickering (crowd isn't into Cena at all.) He accuses Punk of being the hypocrite because he's going to leave them all behind, and Cena compares him to the Rock.

Punk rips into Cena, bringing back up how earlier Cena said all those guys like HBK, JBL, etc, thought Cena couldn't hang, and that's the problem, that Cena became what he hates. Punk talks about all the local sports teams, and says that Cena is no longer the underdog. Cena is what he hates. Cena is a dynasty, Cena is the New York Yankees. Cena punches Punk, Punk leaves and goes to the top of the ramp.

Punk says he's tired of Vince, and tired of Cena, and that he's just tired. He says that on July 17th, you can say goodbye to the WWE title, goodbye to John Cena, and goodbye to CM Punk. He then rips up the contract, throws it down, does the "You can't see me" hand motion, and leaves.

That's about the jist of it.

[Xero]

That was amazing, as expected. Almost feel like the end was SLIGHTLY anti-climactic, but that's just nitpicking. Both segments were perfect.

As WWKD said, I really hope they don't blow it. I honestly wouldn't mind Punk swerving and joining Vince, but IF Punk is staying on through at least SummerSlam, they could do so much with him.

I honestly find it hard to believe that WWE is going to push Punk this hard and fast right out the door. Yes, it could be WWE doing the "see, we can push you and use you right" BS, but he's being booked so strong and is getting over by such a ridiculous amount that they're only adding to his name value. His name value is bigger right now than it ever has been. And WWE is going to let that walk away from them? Seems unlikely.

Right now, and I don't feel I'm exaggerating, I feel that that if they harness what they have they may very well have something on the level of Austin after the Mania 13 match.

[Lock Jaw]

Huge pop for Ice Cream Bars. Ice Cream Bars should clearly be brought in and become the next WWE Champion.

[Juan]

My money is on Vince doing something drastic to get Punk to sign at MITB. That may or may not mean Punk is aligning himself with Vince, but something's gotta give here.

[Malfeitor]

For the first time in a long time, I was actually glued to the screen. That's all thanks to Punk's awesome mic skills.

[MIZantine Empire]

i love how the bellas said kellys stink face didnt smell good..im pretty sure i would plug my nose up after that so i can harbor that smell of awesome for the rest of my life! i did however look at kelly kelly a lil different after hearing randy orton talk about her getting passed around by the guys in the back like a trending topic on twitter

[Shadrick]

SOMEONE GIVE ICE CREAM BARS A CONTRACT AND A SIN CARA-ESQUE PUSH.

But Ice Cream Bars better not botch in an Orton match, or that push is ovaaaaa

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah Cena is a meanie for not letting Vince and Punk sign the contract to bring back the WWE Ice Cream bars.

Like Punk said, that was an instant million bucks right there.

[Lock Jaw]

I honestly find it hard to believe that WWE is going to push Punk this hard and fast right out the door. Yes, it could be WWE doing the "see, we can push you and use you right" BS, but he's being booked so strong and is getting over by such a ridiculous amount that they're only adding to his name value. His name value is bigger right now than it ever has been. And WWE is going to let that walk away from them? Seems unlikely.

Yeah. That's basically my feelings on the whole thing as well. I know reports indicate he is really leaving, but I'm finding it hard to believe.

[Aguakate]

...I'm surprised with how long of a leash they're giving Punk...they're REALLY letting him bring up topics no one even dares talk about...

[MIZantine Empire]

Spiders in briefcases?

Truth. :lol:
lol, "if there is a spider in that briefcase, that briefcase is gonna get got" i have to admit, i agree with him here, to hell with heights and dumb ass spiders

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I just don't see how this can't end with either Punk vs HHH at Summerslam, or Punk vs Austin at Mania.

It makes too much fucking sense for it to not happen.

[MIZantine Empire]

I think I just saw the referee that was checking on Drew hold up the X with his arms. :-\

It looked like he landed on or hit some of the lights on his way down.
ya i think he got legit messed up in that spot. i loved how cole or king made no mention of him getting easily the worst end of that attack

[SammyG]

First of all, CM Punk has made me watch wrestling again. Secondly, WTF, put Zack Ryder on TV.

[SammyG]

and if Del Rio does not win MITB, WWE is retarded.

[CM Punk DONT GO]

So mad rite now. Punk was totally gonna sign a new contract and bc that idiot has to but him face into everything and hit punk he isnt going to sign a contract now. I want to watch MITB now but im not allowed to get PPVs because "their too expensive". so pissed now

[Aguakate]

and if Del Rio does not win MITB, WWE is retarded.

...He already won the Royal Rumble (the biggest ever)...if he wins the MITB, then he almost HAS to win the Title at some point before the year ends...

[Xero]

I don't like how you go in and out of being a smark and a mark.

Fix that.

Your friendly neighborhood King,
Xero.

[SammyG]

I remember being a kid over at my friend's house, when me and my friend were begging our parents to order Road Wild on PPV and they wouldn't do it. Assholes.

[Aguakate]

I don't like how you go in and out of being a smark and a mark.

Fix that.

Your friendly neighborhood King,
Xero.

...he's a Tweener.

[Shadrick]

It'll either be Del Rio or Kofi.

They took the US Title off of Kofi and Punk and him are real life friends and if Punk is REALLY leaving, he's always said he wanted to put him over on the way out. He's over enough for it to happen.

However, it could be Del Rio. I don't see them giving him the Rumble AND the MITB winner in the same year, but the way they're trying to tap into that Mexican market it's definitely possible. They built him strong leading into it, but you never know.

[CM Punk DONT GO]

I remember being a kid over at my friend's house, when me and my friend were begging our parents to order Road Wild on PPV and they wouldn't do it. Assholes.


Will you take me to watch MITB at Hooters?

[Lock Jaw]

Kofi is in no way over enough to be WWE Champion.

[Malfeitor]

There was once a time when I read these boards and there were hardly any shitty threads. What happened?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

ColtCabana Colt Cabana
“@ZackRyder: Vince McMahon knows I exist” He still has zero clue who I am

LMAO

[Shadrick]

Kofi is in no way over enough to be WWE Champion.

Out of all of the guys in the match, he's over enough for them to give him a run like they gave Swagger.

[SammyG]

lol @ that tweet.

[Londoner]

There was once a time when I read these boards and there were hardly any shitty threads. What happened?

who are you?

[Aguakate]

...CM Punk is getting to a point where he's becoming the best heel WWE has had since Triple H at his peak.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

That was amazing, as expected. Almost feel like the end was SLIGHTLY anti-climactic, but that's just nitpicking. Both segments were perfect.

As WWKD said, I really hope they don't blow it. I honestly wouldn't mind Punk swerving and joining Vince, but IF Punk is staying on through at least SummerSlam, they could do so much with him.

I honestly find it hard to believe that WWE is going to push Punk this hard and fast right out the door. Yes, it could be WWE doing the "see, we can push you and use you right" BS, but he's being booked so strong and is getting over by such a ridiculous amount that they're only adding to his name value. His name value is bigger right now than it ever has been. And WWE is going to let that walk away from them? Seems unlikely.

Right now, and I don't feel I'm exaggerating, I feel that that if they harness what they have they may very well have something on the level of Austin after the Mania 13 match.

Not only that, but if he's actually shooting his way out the door, where is WWE getting their payoff from letting him do this? Having him job to Cena before he leaves isn't going to make it even. If this is Punk leaving, then it's Punk leaving while making the WWE sound like the worst place ever. There has to be some sort of rehabilitation planned after this. They can't just let Punk say all this stuff and leave.

[BigCrippyZ]

I loved tonight's RAW. Only thing I missed was the Diva's match. I had to take a shit and I figured that was the best time.

I have to admit it seems that the writer's and most of the talent have really stepped it up lately, especially on tonight's RAW. It was fun and exciting again. I actually found myself wondering what was going to happen next, just like old times. Loved the MITB ladder spots with Del Rio, etc.

It was even exciting to see Big Show and Henry's feud continue and the stage bump was sweet. I think that Drew got fucked up after watching the replay, his fall looked sick. It didn't look like Drew landed where he was supposed too at all, let alone Show or Henry. Not sure what happened but it looked sloppy or something.

CM Punk was incredible. Punk/Cena/Vince promos and segments were great. Reminded me of the old school promos between Austin/Vince/Rock or Austin/Vince/HBK from 98-99.

I know they're still PG, but I love that they're bringing back some spontaneity and "anything can happen" feel to the shows. Between the Cena/Punk/Vince promos and language, pro wrestling references, the MITB ladder spots and the Show/Henry stage spot, I felt like they were really trying to push the envelope a little again.

Hopefully they'll keep it up and won't get worried/scared and drop the ball like they've done in the recent past when I thought things were going to start to get better.

[rob11]

R-truth was great tonight. I wonder if they will do something with spiders at MITB.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Couldn't get off work to get to the TD Garden goddamn it :mad:

[Shadrick]

Haven't been this excited about rasslin in a long time.

[Tazz Dan]

I've taken annual leave to watch MiTB. Normally it's only WM and the Royal Rumble I do that for, but I'm very keen for this. Plus it gives me an excuse to drink a beer at 10am in the morning.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So, you're watching Money in the Bank and getting paid for it. :y:

[Tazz Dan]

Something like that. I'm pretty sure I'm owed a few days for public holidays worked, so it probably wont cost me holiday hours either. This is all starting to look up. If it's as good as I'm hoping it is, I can take the next day off for Raw too!

[Tom Guycott]

I honestly find it hard to believe that WWE is going to push Punk this hard and fast right out the door. Yes, it could be WWE doing the "see, we can push you and use you right" BS, but he's being booked so strong and is getting over by such a ridiculous amount that they're only adding to his name value. His name value is bigger right now than it ever has been. And WWE is going to let that walk away from them? Seems unlikely.


Yeah. That's basically my feelings on the whole thing as well. I know reports indicate he is really leaving, but I'm finding it hard to believe.

I see this a little differently. It's time to cue up:

[wishful thinking] Punk does "leave", in the same manner that Daniel Bryan was "fired". He takes the belt (i'm not going to paraphrase Vince Russo from Bash at the Beach again, but you get the idea) and we don't see it again. He gives it that re-design he touched on in tonight's promo gold. Possibly chucks the spinner off the "Roody-Poo Bridge".

Punk actually gets to "leave" with the belt in the way Heyman described the "Sandman's blind" angle, where Sandman stayed home to sell it. He gets to defend it in a way similar to how the whole Tazz/Awesome thing went down over the ECW belt. This sells he's actually "gone from WWE", gets the internets abuzzed with "how much of this is a shoot?" and an "embarassed" Vinnie Mac eventually "re-signs" Punk, Cabana, and possibly by the sounds of things, The Kings of Wrestling.

Cena gets "fired" (read: they finally give their workhorse a well deserved gorram vacation) to have The Rock come back, close to next year's Wrestlemania, of course, to get him "re-hired" for that match.

And we see a return of the WWE Ice Cream Bars. [/wishful thinking]

[Tom Guycott]

Oh yeah, almost forgot: LttP for tonight's RAW, brought to you by WWE Ice Cream Bars!

-Cena's speaking in full-on Bostonian tonight. All that elocution class stuff went RIGHT out the window.

-Cole's tie > my mom's dining room tablecloth.

- Spot on Vinnie Mac impersonation by Drew. 15 seconds to be awesome! Welp, back to being buried...

- I loved the "acrophobia" bit (although he did say it correctly) by Truth and Cole.

-ADR got played off by his music like he was at the Oscars. :rofl:

- Henry just pushed Big Show REAL HARD and hoped he fell. So used to seeing spears in that situation, it just seemed funnier than it should have.

- This segment is just total magic. Vince cheap popping his own entrance, stopping to ponder the huge Zack Ryder sign, "CM PLUNK", "What a maneuverrrr!", "Phil", literal pushing, "This is where I talk them in the building." and the fans not deciding if they wanted to chant "Colt Cabana" or "We Want Ice Cream". Speaking of, Jesus! It even went as far as #wweicecreambars being a trending topic. If only he mentioned ECTO COOLER...

-Punk is undoubtably a unique mic talent. Here's a guy who made clean living sound self-rightous and condescending, yet took a clearly greedy heel promo tonight and was able to work a face reaction out of it. It has less to do with Boston being a "smart city" than you think.

[Cool King]

TPWW died for me just after Raw went off the air, which was to be expected after a great promo.

Just like the majority of people, I also loved the Punk/Vince/Cena promo. Mostly just the Punk/Vince segment, though that has nothing to do with me being all "CeNA sUXX! lololol1111!" or whatever, because I'm not. I've said it before, Cena doesn't bother me these days. I actually enjoyed Punk and Vince's segment.

I was actually glued to the screen, listening intently and loving what I was watching. The pop for WWE Ice Cream Bars was hilarious, as was the chant "We Want Ice Cream", followed by Punk saying he's just made Vince millions of Dollars in Ice Cream sales. Punk's impressions of Vince are great too, they gave me a chuckle.

It was great until Cena came out. Again, none of this "CeNA sUXX! lololol1111!" stuff. I honestly thought Cena's part spoiled the "flow" of the segment. Though, when Cena came out and bitched that Punk and Vince were acting like children, he went ahead and did a childish impression of them acting like children.

Pot calling the kettle black?

And it's most likely because I don't have an interest in Baseball or Basketball, but the whole Baseball/Basketball referencing just had me lost.

But overall, it was a great segment and now I'm really looking forward to Sunday. :y:

[Innovator]

My thoughts on the show: DONT FUCK THIS UP. They have something special with Punk right now.

[Volare]

Got home and watched a Replay....still wish I watched it live.

Dear god let me be off or at least open on Sunday.

Awesome fucking show, gf got mad at me for ignoring her but...she'll deal.

[Lock Jaw]

Two people now have mentioned Vince stopping and supposedly pointing to a Zack Ryder sign during his entrance.

BUT he wasn't doing that at all.

He was interacting with the dude dressed up like Hulk Hogan who was right beside the sign.

Just wishful thinking on some people's part that it was the Zack Ryder sign.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I gave up my Sunday night shift so I can watch Money in the Bank. Total mark over here.

[Volare]

Also, I am humbled that my name was on the front of the RAW thread. My 15 minutes of fame.

[Rammsteinmad]

Y'know what I find interesting about this whole Punk angle...

Vince's lawyers and Punk's lawyers both use the same black folders for their contracts.

[BollywoodSingh]

To the people who are saying the ending segment was good until Cena came out, do you mean the fact that it was Cena or was there something wrong with Cena's promo?

I didn't see any problem with it and Cena needed to be there at the end. There was no other way to ended it.

[RVDmark]

[COLOR="Blue"]It was great until Cena came out. Again, none of this "CeNA sUXX! lololol1111!" stuff. I honestly thought Cena's part spoiled the "flow" of the segment. Though, when Cena came out and bitched that Punk and Vince were acting like children, he went ahead and did a childish impression of them acting like children.

Not to mention Cena's whole spiel on CM Punk about to walk out on the fans who support him. It is Cena stopping Vince signing CM Punk on a new long term contract by cutting that very promo.

[Tazz Dan]

I've taken annual leave to watch MiTB. Normally it's only WM and the Royal Rumble I do that for, but I'm very keen for this. Plus it gives me an excuse to drink a beer at 10am in the morning.

I gave up my Sunday night shift so I can watch Money in the Bank. Total mark over here.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

To the people who are saying the ending segment was good until Cena came out, do you mean the fact that it was Cena or was there something wrong with Cena's promo?

I didn't see any problem with it and Cena needed to be there at the end. There was no other way to ended it.

My problem with it was just the fact that in the beginning he came out and did his little childish comedy stuff. The whole "You, no you, no you, no you." thing he did just seemed REALLY out of place, unnecessary, and the crowd wasn't into it at all. Besides that, he was good the rest of the time.

[Malfeitor]

who are you?

Hi, I'm Malfeitor. Nice to meet you. I said that because I've been reading these boards for a good four years, and there was always some good discussions going on. Just seemed to go downhill lately.

[Skippord]

how did Drew McIntyre not get hurt?

[Tom Guycott]

Two people now have mentioned Vince stopping and supposedly pointing to a Zack Ryder sign during his entrance.

BUT he wasn't doing that at all.

He was interacting with the dude dressed up like Hulk Hogan who was right beside the sign.

Just wishful thinking on some people's part that it was the Zack Ryder sign.

It was the Zack Ryder sign. He was asking the fan "How did we not confiscate this?"

[XL]

My problem with it was just the fact that in the beginning he came out and did his little childish comedy stuff. The whole "You, no you, no you, no you." thing he did just seemed REALLY out of place, unnecessary, and the crowd wasn't into it at all. Besides that, he was good the rest of the time.
Heh. People ate it up when Rock did it before Mania.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Heh. People ate it up when Rock did it before Mania.

Right, but then you had 3 people who act like that anyway in Rock, Cena and The Miz, with The Rock being the master of that type of delivery. Having Cena come out and open with that stuff in a fairly serious discussion makes it out of place.

[Rammsteinmad]

Also lol John Cena, idol and role model to millions of children all over the world, punching a man in the face for calling him a 'New York Yankee'. :y:

[Disco Apocalypse]

To the people who are saying the ending segment was good until Cena came out, do you mean the fact that it was Cena or was there something wrong with Cena's promo?

I didn't see any problem with it and Cena needed to be there at the end. There was no other way to ended it.

Gotta agree with this one. I was originally going to reply and say "You didn't need Cena to end the segment", but fuck, you really did. It's not like it's CM Punk v.s. VKM, you want the opponent (and top guy) in the last segment in the last week before the ppv.

It would have been good to focus on Cena a little bit more imo, considering a stipulation of the match is that he gets fired. With Punk mentioning the previous time it happened (or didn't), and not a hell a lot of focus on it, what was the point of having the stipulation anyway? If Punk wins, the shock will be focused on the title leaving the company, not Cena.

Pointless stipulation in terms of the storyline development and build-up :nono:

[Innovator]

Cena was fine after he got his comedy routine out of the way. The comedy felt forced and out of place.

[Disco Apocalypse]

Or worse case scenario, MiTB winner cashes in on Punk after he wins, and then the focus DOES go on Cena... weak sauce, very weak sauce.

And I don't want to sound ungrateful, because this is a fantastic storyline and great TV, I just hope they don't Nexus it.

[Londoner]

Right, but then you had 3 people who act like that anyway in Rock, Cena and The Miz, with The Rock being the master of that type of delivery. Having Cena come out and open with that stuff in a fairly serious discussion makes it out of place.

:yes:

[RVDmark]

Pointless stipulation in terms of the storyline development and build-up :nono:

Given this storyline is playing around with the IWC, I think its to add to the shock when Punk wins, no-one expects Cena to be fired.

But I do have a horrible feeling that the reason Vince think's Cena can't win is becuase he is going to screw Cena on Sunday.

[RVDmark]

this is a fantastic storyline and great TV, I just hope they don't Nexus it.

:y:

[Haze]

My roommate had an interesting observation that could play into how this whole angle goes down. During the promo there were two contracts out in the ring, one of which CM Punk had already signed. It could be spun that during all of the confusion, CM Punk grabbed the wrong contract and tore up the one that didn't have his signature.

CM Punk goes onto win the match this Sunday only to have Vince come out and reveil that he signed "the" contract, in effect forcing Punk to stay on. This could setup for a Punk/McMahon fued that could slowly build Punk up as an anti-hero similar to Austin.

[Xero]

That's actually a great observation that I've not heard yet. It could absolutely come into play.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Oh snap. I think that's the finish.

[Lock Jaw]

It was the Zack Ryder sign. He was asking the fan "How did we not confiscate this?"

No.

http://i.imgur.com/298cs.gif

[Shadrick]

Call me crazy, but something tells me, with the subtle things the IWC has been given during this feud, and the use of the Rocks name in several of the promos leading up, that The Rock may somehow show up and get involved as a swerve to get Cena fired. Maybe I'm just throwin shit out there at this point.

[XCaliber]

Call me crazy, but something tells me, with the subtle things the IWC has been given during this feud, and the use of the Rocks name in several of the promos leading up, that The Rock may somehow show up and get involved as a swerve to get Cena fired. Maybe I'm just throwin shit out there at this point.

Certainly would rule it out but I was thinking they would have held out for something like this for Summerslam there's enough intrigue in the match as there needs to be espically with MITB possibly getting cashed in.

[Lock Jaw]

No.

http://i.imgur.com/298cs.gif

Though, if he was pointing at the Zack Ryder sign (which he isn't), his titantron in the back works perfectly.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I feel that if The Rock were going to be at the PPV, they would advertise it beforehand.

[Shadrick]

Hence, why it would be a swerve. I mean, they've already built this thing up mammoth and anyone who's gonna tune in is gonna tune in. It'd be even bigger to have the Rock show up.

[Anybody Thrilla]

It's not going to happen, Shadrick. Just stop it.

[Cool King]

My roommate had an interesting observation that could play into how this whole angle goes down. During the promo there were two contracts out in the ring, one of which CM Punk had already signed. It could be spun that during all of the confusion, CM Punk grabbed the wrong contract and tore up the one that didn't have his signature.

CM Punk goes onto win the match this Sunday only to have Vince come out and reveil that he signed "the" contract, in effect forcing Punk to stay on. This could setup for a Punk/McMahon fued that could slowly build Punk up as an anti-hero similar to Austin.

As much as that's a fantastic idea, I just watched the whole segment again and Vince does keep a hold of Punk's contract during the time Cena is in the ring, but when Punk leaves the ring, he steals it back from Vince. So if that is indeed how the angle goes down, they're going to have a tough time showing how the mix-up happened. :-\

I thought maybe because Vince was offscreen for a long time that the mix-up could have happened then, but Vince's contract was lying in the same position when Punk left the ring as it was when Punk tipped over the table.

So Vince's contract hadn't been touched.

[CSL]

just watched the last segment, outstanding. Entertaining, unpredictable, "close to the bone" etc. Haven't seen much credit for Cena in here, he was bang on form/ more than equal to Punk in that segment only in a smaller dose. Be interesting to see how they play it out. All signs point to Punk not going anywhere, everything else is "up in the air", they've got the unpredictability factor right up. Crowd should be red hot come the PPV.

[Disco Apocalypse]

just watched the last segment, outstanding. Entertaining, unpredictable, "close to the bone" etc. Haven't seen much credit for Cena in here, he was bang on form/ more than equal to Punk in that segment only in a smaller dose. Be interesting to see how they play it out. All signs point to Punk not going anywhere, everything else is "up in the air", they've got the unpredictability factor right up. Crowd should be red hot come the PPV.

Cena indeed was very good. I think it shows what he can do against another talented wrestler in a well written feud. Cena, Punk and to a lesser extent VKM were all on form on Raw, and they didn't play into independent heel or face roles, they played a great shade of grey. You'd be hard pressed to say Cena is a heel in this situation though, but VKM and Punk can go either way based on their next moves...

[Haze]

As much as that's a fantastic idea, I just watched the whole segment again and Vince does keep a hold of Punk's contract during the time Cena is in the ring, but when Punk leaves the ring, he steals it back from Vince. So if that is indeed how the angle goes down, they're going to have a tough time showing how the mix-up happened. :-\

I thought maybe because Vince was offscreen for a long time that the mix-up could have happened then, but Vince's contract was lying in the same position when Punk left the ring as it was when Punk tipped over the table.

So Vince's contract hadn't been touched.

Your implying logic when it comes to the WWE...The WWE writers could say the sky is red and "expect" that the crowd believes it.

[DAMN iNATOR]

oh shit eddie guerrero mention

did cena ever face eddie?

Yep.

US Title (interestingly enough, this match took place on 9/11/03.)
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[Aguakate]

No.

http://i.imgur.com/298cs.gif

...he was definitely pointing to Hogan, not the Ryder sign.

...which kind of sums up Zack Ryder: "So close, yet so far". Within Vince's eyesight, but completely ignored LOL.

[DAMN iNATOR]

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[Anybody Thrilla]

I remember being surprisingly entertained by that Cena/Guerrero Parking Lot Brawl.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I remember being surprisingly entertained by that Cena/Guerrero Parking Lot Brawl.

I was, too, up until that Chavo interference bit. Thought Eddie could've easily defeated Cena for the title cleanly.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Shut up dick, it's wrestling.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Hey, I didn't have to post those vids, ya know. Just nobody else had, so I did it to be nice. You should be grateful.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Well I'm not. Anybody could have found those videos if they wanted to. You act like you have some super special YouTube password that nobody else can use.

[Anybody Thrilla]

And I wasn't even talking about the videos when I called you a dick, dick.

[Tom Guycott]

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Funny how 3 people missed the fact that I was making a Zack Ryder sign confiscation joke and not a "ZOMG!!Zack Ryder!!!" statement the second time around. Yes, I went back and watched it before that post, and the problem resolved itself.

I'll have to remember to add the requisite [sarcasm] tags in the future to avoid any undue confusion in these matters.

[Xero]

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