Matt vs. Jeff: Who is the Bigger Fuck Up?

[Innovator]

TALE OF THE TAPE

Jeff
-Initially let go from WWE in 2003 for refusing to go to rehab.
-His music.
-Pending drug charges.
-Came out wasted for a PPV main event, almost impaled himself on the steps.
-Tased Reby Sky.

Matt
-Fell asleep in a bowl of soup.
-Youtube.
-Twitter.
-Made video of Jeff tasing Reby Sky.
-Chestnut Tree.
-Sent home from WWE for being a fuck up.
-Fired from WWE for being a fuck up.
-Sent home from TNA for being a fuck up.
-Fired from TNA for being a fuck up.

[El Fangel]

This is an unfair poll as the answer could change by the time I vote.

[Rammsteinmad]

I think Matt gets treated unfairly by the internet at times. Matt may be a bit of a screw-up today, but at least he's still trying. Jeff shits all over the industry and somehow still has a job.

Either way, both of them have lost the plot now.

[RVDmark]

Both have had the opportunity but thrown it all away. Jeff for some reason is marketable and Matt isn't, so Jeff gets the continued shots at the top to sell merch while Matt unfortuantely gets lost in the shuffle. For all his good / bad points Matt is bland, Jeff is anything but bland.

[Rock Bottom]

I went with Jeff because he had more to fuck up than Matt, even though Matt seems to have fucked up more.

[Innovator]

I went with Matt just for the volume of destruction he did to himself over 1 year.

[XL]

Jeff's fuck ups can be attributed to one thing: drugs. Every mistake he has made relates back to drugs.

Matt on the other hand doesn't even have that "excuse". Seems he's just that way naturally.

So, Matt wins. Or doesn't, I guess.

[El Fangel]

Hypothetically, if Matt WAS on the same drugs, who would it be then?

[El Fangel]

I can't believe I just typed that...

[Cuse8]

jeff

matt is a moron, no doubt about that, but he never ruined a ppv main event by being under the influence

[FourFifty]

Jeff Hardy by a long shot. Matt is just batshit crazy and rapes social networks.

[RVDmark]

jeff

matt is a moron, no doubt about that, but he never ruined a ppv main event by being under the influence

Agree 100% although the bigger fuck up is whoever decided to let him go through the curtain that night. It would never have happened in WWE as Vice would have sent him home adn rebooked the ending, not just thrown him out into the ring and said "ah, it'll be alright".

[Wolfpack423]

I'm going with Matt on this one. From 2004 on he just came across as a person that didn't have it all together and through the years we've seen that grow especially in more recent years.

I agree Jeff doesn't have it all together, but I don't think he's really that bad. Yes, the drugs issue is dangerous, but I don't think he's mentally unstable. Matt is just flat out crazy.

[Wolfpack423]

Wait Hurricane's a choice too. He may be worse than Matt. His ramblings are so annoying and half the time they don't make any sense, much like Matt's, but Hurricane's can be downright ludicrous.

[XCaliber]

Definetly Matt he came accross as more of a dumbass before he found drugs.

[Lock Jaw]

I'd go with Matt Hardy. If only because it used to be understood that he was the "normal" one and we all kinda liked him and wanted to see him succeed.

Then in the course of a year or two he completely self-destructed.

With Jeff Hardy it was always like, "Yeah, that's Jess Hardy for you".

[NormanSmiley]

where is the option for their parents. they started this shit

[legendkillerRKO]

I am too lazy to upload Matt's mugshot right now...but wow...the answer to theis question is bigger fuck up in the wrestling business? Jeff - so much potential and he ruined it....bigger fuck up in life? Matt Hardy - he just makes himself look trashier each time you hear or see something about him

[Next Big Thing]

Jeff. If you look at it, Jeff was a main event talent and has had the opportunity to be pushed to the moon by two different promotions. He threw it all away at the peak of his career.

Matt was never given the chance to be anything more than midcard at best. Hell, WWE viewed him as so expendable that they fired him during the Edge/Lita fiasco even though he was the one wronged.

Matt's fuck ups these last couple years come as his career/worth in wrestling is on a decline. Jeff could have been the face of TNA (not saying much, but still...).

[Mr. JL]

Matt Hardy is the bigger fuck up. He BURNED his bridge with the WWE and his bridge with TNA just washed away. I just hope he has saved his damn money.

[Cuse8]

Jeff. If you look at it, Jeff was a main event talent and has had the opportunity to be pushed to the moon by two different promotions. He threw it all away at the peak of his career.

Matt was never given the chance to be anything more than midcard at best. Hell, WWE viewed him as so expendable that they fired him during the Edge/Lita fiasco even though he was the one wronged.

Matt's fuck ups these last couple years come as his career/worth in wrestling is on a decline. Jeff could have been the face of TNA (not saying much, but still...).

i agree with all of this..spot on sir

[Rollermacka]

Jeff. If you look at it, Jeff was a main event talent and has had the opportunity to be pushed to the moon by two different promotions. He threw it all away at the peak of his career.

Matt was never given the chance to be anything more than midcard at best. Hell, WWE viewed him as so expendable that they fired him during the Edge/Lita fiasco even though he was the one wronged.

Matt's fuck ups these last couple years come as his career/worth in wrestling is on a decline. Jeff could have been the face of TNA (not saying much, but still...).

I agee about Jeff by far. If I'm not mistaken, Jeff was booked to become TNA world champ in 05 but no showed the event? Can't be more of a fuck up than that

[Kane Knight]

I think Matt gets treated unfairly by the internet at times. Matt may be a bit of a screw-up today, but at least he's still trying. Jeff shits all over the industry and somehow still has a job.

BUT AT LEAST HE DIDN'T POST ON THE INTERNET LOL

[Wishbone]

Voted Jeff only because he has fallen farther in the grand scheme of things. Yes Matt is a total and complete fucking moron but atleast he didn't go from top of the world to face planting the sidewalk were as Jeff was champion of WWE's A show and still managed to piss it all away. Honestly though all three of the people on this list are deserving of an award for most retarded human being on earth.

[xbdj74x]

jeff hardy is the fuck up matt hardy is the dumbass

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Excellent point xbdj74x.

[Ruien]

I went with Matt for the fact he actually was fired by TNA and that says a lot.

[#1-norm-fan]

They both have a lot of money. So... neither.

But in the context you're talking about, Jeff by far. He had more opportunity to be huge than Matt and fucked up worse.

[teamXtremist]

probably matt only because everyone thought matt was the one with his shit together only to find out hes probably as worse off as jeff with regards to substance abuse

Jeff whenever given the opportunity to be the man or have to carry a co. crumbled under his own demons whenever the pressure got too high.Matt on the other hand was never really given an opportunity to get over.As a result matt turned into to the one thing no one thought he would, he turned into his brother jeff

[Emperor Smeat]

Both are morons but Matt has screwed up a lot more considering Jeff's main problem is drugs while Matt seems to have gone somewhat crazy lately.

One of the reasons TNA hired Matt Hardy was to help him control and straighten up Jeff from his drugs problems but instead Jeff got worse while Matt Hardy started to do a lot more stupid stuff. He also started to get a lot more sloppy in the ring and got a lot more verbal about being upset even though he stopped caring about working hard enough to change the situation while in the WWE.

Jeff screwed up a lot more based on his status as a main eventer multiple times but he did make a lot more money for both the WWE and TNA compred to Matt Hardy's time with both companies. The WWE was even willing to "forgive" him for his drug problems multiple times due to him making a lot of money for the company each time he was rehired.

[jskinnyg]

This is an unfair poll as the answer could change by the time I vote.

Brilliant... Was thinking the same thing...

[CSL]

Just want to point out this misconception that Jeff Hardy threw however many opportunities or whatever away. This is a guy who personally chose to walk away from his headline spot as quite literally the most popular wrestler on the planet and repeated big money, long term contract offers from Vince to stay in WWE. The biggest thing he's "thrown away" was his recent TNA run in which, from an "artistic standpoint", he was probably better than he's ever been. He'd clearly stopped caring/was completely burnt out by the time his 2003 WWE release came around and he simply stopped showing up at TNA shows during his first stint there, showing how much he really cared. And in both of those instances, he returned to those companies and achieved unparalleled success in regards to what he'd done there previously.

This is a 200/210lb guy without a muscle in sight that pretty much does as he pleases in a business where it does you good to say "yes please" who became the most popular wrestler on Earth and a multiple time World champion. I'd have a hard time calling him the biggest fuck up over any wrestler that has a slight fondness for pills or has a suspension in their past, let alone Matt who appears to have gone off into the deep end and seems to be trying to revel in the image he has created of himself when in fact it's probably going to scare away the few places he could make the living he'd like to.

A few years ago I'd have bet that Matt Hardy could have been employed for life with WWE with much to offer once his active days were done whereas Jeff was always going to pretty much come and go as he pleases since wrestling clearly isn't "the be all and end all" for him. The so-called "biggest fuck-up" is definitely Matt out of the two. Helms is on the verge of being a "never was" at this point. His injury fucked him over at his hottest point/the worst possible time for him, he took 8 steps back upon his return, never recovered, was released and made some dick comments about Shawn Michaels.

[CSL]

calm down there Alienoid06

[Majunior]

They both have a lot of money. So... neither.

But in the context you're talking about, Jeff by far. He had more opportunity to be huge than Matt and fucked up worse.


Are you sure? Jeff had a crappy trailer that burned down. Also, with a serious drug habit, he may have shot/smoked/snorted his "fortune" away.

As to the topic, well... Jaff is a MUCH bigger fuck up. He's actually a fuck up. Matt Hardy is just a dumb ass who found the internet and had too much free time due to all his suspensions/firings and obviously needed a hobby.

Just sayin'.

[Tb1]

Yeah wasn't this supposed to be Matt Hardy's "year"? When is that happening

[AJHayes]

While Matt is a fuckup in his personal life, acts like a little girl who just discovered myspace, and allowed himself as a "top tier" pro athlete to get in horrendous shape...

I think that Jeff is the worse of the two. Federal drug charges (in double digits), makes fully moronic videos, and showed up to MAIN EVENT a ppv against a legend in the making so fucked up that he could barely walk.

Frankly it's insulting that people that have made it that far in wrestling just fuck around and act like assholes. There are people, such as myself, who would love the chance to do what they're doing at the level they are doing it at. It's really insulting both as a fan and as a wrestler.

However... As a recovering addict (3 years clean), they both need help in a serious way and I hate to see anyone going through that. It's my opinion that tough love is needed in their case. They need to get the straight shit on how they're acting.

[CSL]

Frankly it's insulting that people that have made it that far in wrestling just fuck around and act like assholes. There are people, such as myself, who would love the chance to do what they're doing at the level they are doing it at. It's really insulting both as a fan and as a wrestler.

lol this is ridiculous. You're talking like somebody knocked on their front door one day at random and was like "hey, want to be internationally famous professional wrestlers? Yeah? Okay, here you go" *hands over WWE contracts and suitcase of money*

[Droford]

I had an awesome idea for an angle that I guess they'll never do where they brought in a 3rd Hardy Brother where their father knocked up some other woman and he ended up turning out normal and smart/intelligent and when he found out he was related to Matt and Jeff he decided to become a wrestler (so he'd sort of be like Christopher Nowinski)..and he'd feud with both of em, always managing to outsmart both of em.

I never could think of a name for the 3rd Brother though..

I think this may be a rehash of the 3rd Steiner Brother Angle I had a long time ago..sort of..I think that the Steiner Angle would have actually been better as to go with "Theres no way Rick and Scott are actually related" though, so maybe something like Scott Steiner brought in a guy to play Rick, who in real life was smart and not completely dumb so he wouldn't hog the spotlight..

ugh..

[Next Big Thing]

Shannon Moore.

[Droford]

oh and my vote goes to Jeff if for only the fact that if he wasn't so fucked up he'd probably still be in WWE as a main eventer..

[CSL]

Scott Steiner should be the 3rd Hardy albeit older brother. It would be glorious. This would lead to Rick Steiner having a nervous breakdown at the revelation and going back to being mildly retarded Rick Steiner character from his Crockett run.

[CSL]

oh and my vote goes to Jeff if for only the fact that if he wasn't so fucked up he'd probably still be in WWE as a main eventer..

This is a guy who personally chose to walk away from his headline spot as quite literally the most popular wrestler on the planet and repeated big money, long term contract offers from Vince to stay in WWE.

[KIRA]

I'm gonna throw Ric Flair in here and just end by saying there is something terribly wrong with the drinking water in NC

[Pintint]

It makes me very sad, considering these two are two of my favorite wrestlers, ESPECIALLY Jeff. I was never a huge Matt fan and he sucked bad at the end of his WWE run...but Jeff was always awesome...

[BizarroKing]

Jeff was given a chance, Matt never really had one.

[#1-norm-fan]

No idea how Matt is leading right now.

[CSL]

and right on cue as Matt is given his marching orders:

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JEFFHARDYBRAND (http://twitter.com/#!/JEFFHARDYBRAND) Jeff Hardy



Ok it's official...time to go back2work!I will be in Huntsville,AL this Thursday with ImpactWrestling!!!!

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[Majunior]

I never saw how people liked Jeff. He was like... a less talented New Jack... sans the staplegun.

"Oh shit! Lemme go jump off that!!"

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. He was not less talented than New Jack. Jesus Christ.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

How is this even debatable? Helms broke his girlfriend's vertebrate with his accident. The poll doesn't matter.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Whichever of the two has never won a world title in their career, i.e. Matt.

[AJHayes]

lol this is ridiculous. You're talking like somebody knocked on their front door one day at random and was like "hey, want to be internationally famous professional wrestlers? Yeah? Okay, here you go" *hands over WWE contracts and suitcase of money*

Your internet logic is flawless. I'm not quite sure what to say.

[Next Big Thing]

I have to wonder if that had more to do with the steroids, pain killers and coke he was taking more than him wanting to be free of the WWE or assert his independence for awhile. Vince was willing to give him time off and a lighter, part time schedule too, so it's not like they were forcing him to re-sign and go back to work the next week.

It's mighty funny that less than two weeks after he left the drug bust went down, something that wouldn't have gone over very well in WWE.

In my opinion, walking away from the main event because you want to explore other avenues like Rock or Jericho should be viewed in a different light than walking away because you're taking all sorts of illegal drugs and don't want to get suspended or have to go to rehab.

[CSL]

It doesn't matter what the reasons are, if he wanted to leave so he could so he could dedicate all of his time into translating the bible into Klingon, that's his choice and still makes any kind of comment about throwing anything away in WWE totally irrelevant and simply not true. And the contract "will he, won't he?" stuff was going on all year in 2009 since it was public knowledge his contract was up in the summer and he was publically umming and ahhing about resigning (the same Jeff Hardy that we know can "take or leave" wrestling and is a physical wreck from his style), so he didn't suddenly wake up one day and decide to leave because he had a pharmacy in his house.

And don't be daft, of course it shouldn't be viewed in a different light, that opinion/train of thought seems to run rampant amongst the "Selective Moral Angel" squad that plenty on the internet like to portray themselves as when it comes to the Hardys and certain others. It's hilarious in a "really? wow" kind of way and completely typical. brb, going to make a thread about Eddie Guerrero putting his own family and children through hell, nearly killing himself a bunch of times and then succeeding in leaving his kids with no father and his wife a widow all as a direct result of his drug abuse. Seriously, get the fuck over yourselves people.

[Kane Knight]

No idea how Matt is leading right now.

Because eMAtt posted on the internet, and we collectively hate the internet.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Because eMAtt posted on the internet, and we collectively hate the internet.

Plus let's not forget the guy thinks he can slap tornadoes and dry up seas. :shifty:

[Aguakate]

I believe Jeff is the bigger fuck-up, based on the fact that both Major Companies (WWE and TNA) have given him opportunities to be the Company's MAIN GUY, to Main Event, and he has wasted those opportunities by preferring to do drugs.

[MoFo]

Dunno, I feel like Jeff is at least getting buzzed even though hes fucked up.

I just picture Matt Hardy sitting in his hotel room crying over Dave Meltzers reviews of his matches while his girl is getting gangbanged by Batista and crew.