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Xero
08-26-2011, 02:07 PM
From PWInsider:

In an update from my earlier story on Sin Cara, WWE sources are indicating that the original Sin Cara (Mistico) was sent home from the Calgary Smackdown taping after meeting with WWE officials. Going forward, it is expected Hunico will exclusively portray the Cara character.

Everyone I have spoken to expected the artist formerly known as Mistico to depart WWE, but nothing has been 100% confirmed on that front.

Innovator
08-26-2011, 02:08 PM
0 for 1

screech
08-26-2011, 02:09 PM
I prefer Hunico.

XL
08-26-2011, 02:14 PM
Did this need a new thread?

JUS' SAYIN'

Anybody Thrilla
08-26-2011, 02:14 PM
This is good news, I think.

Cuse8
08-26-2011, 02:14 PM
anyone else tired of the sin cara drama?

Xero
08-26-2011, 02:15 PM
Did this need a new thread?

JUS' SAYIN'

Didn't notice the other thread.

If a mod sees fit, may as well combine them.

Innovator
08-26-2011, 02:15 PM
Hunico will do just fine as Cara

Anybody Thrilla
08-26-2011, 02:17 PM
anyone else tired of the sin cara drama?

I've found it all to be pretty easily avoidable, really.

Aguakate
08-26-2011, 02:17 PM
This would be kind of a failure for HHH, since he was the one who signed and brought Mistico over...

...it'd be like his first loss or something.

To avenge this, of course, he'll probably book himself to win the WWE Title or something.

Anybody Thrilla
08-26-2011, 02:32 PM
How is Mistico fucking up Triple H's fault?

Aguakate
08-26-2011, 02:36 PM
How is Mistico fucking up Triple H's fault?

It's not his FAULT, but since he was the one who signed him, and was "grooming him", it could be viewed as some type of "loss" for "The Game".

Anybody Thrilla
08-26-2011, 02:39 PM
No. It's a loss for Mistico. Signing him wasn't a bad idea. It's just unfortunate how things turned out. I couldn't see anybody looking back at this and thinking that Triple H "lost" anything.

Triple Naitch
08-26-2011, 02:48 PM
It's unfortunate. I had high hopes for him. Mistico is a great wrestler, but some guys just aren't a fit in the WWE-style of wrestling.

GD
08-26-2011, 02:48 PM
http://absolutelytrue.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/give-a-fuck-o-meter.gif

Nicky Fives
08-26-2011, 02:50 PM
Sin Cara #1, the best of luck in your future endeavours.....

:wave:

LuigiD
08-26-2011, 02:52 PM
Pissed about this.
Saw Mistico perform live before and it was great. Got excited when he came over to WWE. Like Triple Naitch said tho, I guess the guy isn't cut out for WWE. Between the Wellness Policy Violation and the heat he gets backstage..I guess it was only a matter of time.

XL
08-26-2011, 02:54 PM
How will they handle the "Future Endeavoured" post on WWE.com?

Triple Naitch
08-26-2011, 03:07 PM
He really should have spent some time in FCW like Del Rio did.

Emperor Smeat
08-26-2011, 03:08 PM
Definitely was a bad idea to rush Mistico onto the main roster instead of taking the time needed to let him learn the WWE style although I wonder if Rey's constantly getting injured ended up being a factor in rushing him to the main roster.

Hunico benefited a lot from the extra development time and low expectations than Mistico.

:( looks like no chance of a Sin Cara #1 vs Sin Cara #2 feud is going to be happening any time soon.

Captain of Fun
08-26-2011, 03:16 PM
Wait, if Hunico was the one botching like mad on tuesday, then why are they sending Mistico home?

This is dumb. I've seen Mistico perform. He's better than Hunico. I just think like other people have said, he was rushed in too fast. The mexican style, and even the WWE ring is very different. Not mention going from wretling guys around his size, to wrestling guys almost twice as large has to take some getting used to.

imo, they should just send him to FCW, because he's too good a talent to let slip through the cracks. Eswpecially if these cruiserweight division rumors are true.

GD
08-26-2011, 03:28 PM
I know. Confusing.

screech
08-26-2011, 03:29 PM
Think he leaves or spends time in FCW? Maybe comes back under a different mask if they don't want to do Sin Cara Mirror Match?

KIRA
08-26-2011, 03:36 PM
This might be a dumb question but can Sin Cara sr. go back to being Mistico if hes let go? I mean the masks of Sin Cara and Mistico are similar

Ultra Mantis
08-26-2011, 03:39 PM
Seems like the reported botchfest was Mistico vs Slater so they decided to re-do the match with Hunico in his place.

GD
08-26-2011, 03:45 PM
Hunico versus Heath Slater
<iframe width="560" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EPC2ppBV7dE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Lock Jaw
08-26-2011, 03:46 PM
This might be a dumb question but can Sin Cara sr. go back to being Mistico if hes let go? I mean the masks of Sin Cara and Mistico are similar

Actually been wondering about that too. What are the legal ramifications of WWE having a masked wrestler with a "look" created by Mistico? Does WWE now own the trademark of the design? Will Mistico need an entirely new mask/look in Mexico?

GD
08-26-2011, 03:47 PM
Mistico versus Heath Slater

<iframe width="420" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MOvY3s8L4IM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Sycophant
08-26-2011, 03:48 PM
Well, I am sure they had to pay the original Sin Cara a boatload of money to come to the WWE. If they can get the same result out of a much lower paid wrestler, why not go for it. The original Sin Cara was a great wrestler in Mexico, but he had a very tough time adjusting to the "American" style of wrestling. All in all, it's all about business and Hunico was making significantly less than Cara I would be willing to bet. The WWE is going to come out on top regardless. They put so much press into his arrival and that "Mistico" was coming to the WWE as Sin Cara. I am sure that his release will not be anywhere near as publicized. Therefore, many people are still going to assume that it is "Mistico" under the Sin Cara mask. The old bait and switch.

Mr. Pierre
08-26-2011, 03:50 PM
If the send-home is true, then that sucks. I bet WWE would have been a lot more patient with him if he didn't fail a test and then proceed to publicly speak about it negatively.

I remember reading how high Rey was on him and how he really wanted him in WWE, etc. But oh well, this new guy seems to be pretty good and more than likely wouldn't be dumb enough to plead innocent after failing a drug test.

Rammsteinmad
08-26-2011, 03:53 PM
Is that new Senton/Lionsault thing Sin Cara's new finisher? I swear he's been through half a dozen finishers since his debut.

GD
08-26-2011, 03:54 PM
Yep.

Captain of Fun
08-26-2011, 03:58 PM
Actually been wondering about that too. What are the legal ramifications of WWE having a masked wrestler with a "look" created by Mistico? Does WWE now own the trademark of the design? Will Mistico need an entirely new mask/look in Mexico?


AAA or CMLL owns the mistico name and likeness. Unless it is the EXACT same mask as well as using the name Sin Cara, WWE can't do anything. If I'm not mistaken, there is already a new Mistico out there. If Cara goes back, he'll probably just take it back.

Cool King
08-26-2011, 04:06 PM
I'm a bit surprised at this.

Though I feel bad for Místico. The guy was chosen by Triple H and received a lot of hype from the WWE and fanfare in the Mexican media, that I wouldn't be surprised if Místico feels like shit now and that maybe he's let people down, especially his Mexican fans. :-\

I won't be surprised if I hear news of his release though, but hopefully the WWE will just send him to FCW to develop a new character and become comfortable with the WWE's way of things and then come back to the main roster in the future.

whiteyford
08-26-2011, 04:07 PM
Theres also a Sin Cara in Mexico since WWE didnt copyright the name there, that might have changed by now though.

Riker
08-26-2011, 04:11 PM
No, they didnt launch their own SIn Cara. They just registered the Trademark in mexico as the WWE forgot to, so they own the mexican media rights to the name Sin Cara.

Razzamajazz
08-26-2011, 04:13 PM
buncha racists for releasing him because he's mexican

/jesse jackson

Mr. C
08-26-2011, 04:37 PM
Before debuting Sin Cara on TV, WWE mentioned on their website that he used to be Mistico in Mexico.

Company sources say developmental talent Jorge Arias (aka Hunico) will exclusively portray the Sin Cara character going forward. WWE wants to maintain the character since its been very popular among kids and in merchandise sales.

I really hope they aren’t this foolish. If Sin Cara isn’t Mistico, he isn’t interesting. He’s just another luchador.

Unless the rumors of WWE trying to acquire the Mistico ringname from CMLL are true, and they do plan on doing a Mistico vs. Sin Cara match. Eventually, Theodore Long realizes that “Sin Cara” is an imposter and searches for the true Sin Cara, who Long says hasn’t competed since Money In The Bank. This leads to a match at Vengeance in October featuring Mistico vs. Sin Cara, both wrestlers wearing identical costumes, but Mistico wears gold and white while Sin Cara wears blue and gold. Mistico performs a moonsault sideslam before getting the victory and starts wearing gold and white from now on.

drmayberry7
08-26-2011, 05:07 PM
I knew once he botched his first entrance it wasnt gonna work out

dhellova guy
08-26-2011, 05:35 PM
Talented, but full of himself. Needs others with talent to have a good match.

Oh well

Xero
08-26-2011, 05:46 PM
I really hope they aren’t this foolish. If Sin Cara isn’t Mistico, he isn’t interesting. He’s just another luchador.


Disagree. Yes, to people like us, I'd guess some of us would have a bigger hardon for him because he's Mistico. But to the vast majority, he's a guy that does flippy spots in the ring, points and has a cool mask/attire. Hunico does it just as well, arguably better than Mistico in the WWE world.

He's just as over now as he was when he was Mistico. There is honestly no point to having Mistico under the Sin Cara mask if someone can do it better right now.

Is he "just another luchador"? I don't know, the Sin Cara character is over in the WWE world. Luchadors rarely get as over as he has in WWE. I can honestly only think of Rey. If he's this over and "just another luchador", they should probably invest in more "just another luchadors".

Jura
08-26-2011, 05:49 PM
Talented, but full of himself. Needs others with talent to have a good match.

Oh well
Why are u talking like you know the guy?

I like the original Sin Cara better for multiple reasons but if Hunico is gonna be Sin Cara permanently I think he should develop his own "Sin Cara" since he looks goofy trying to be Mistico's "Sin Cara".

Jura
08-26-2011, 06:10 PM
WE sources indicate that Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde, the original Sin Cara, was sent home from Tuesday’s SmackDown taping in Calgary, Alberta, Canada after meeting with company officials. He left the Scotiabank Saddledome before the event’s conclusion.

Company sources say developmental talent Jorge Arias (a/k/a Hunico) will exclusively portray the Sin Cara character going forward. WWE wants to maintain the character since its been very popular among kids and in merchandise sales.

Many employees expect Alvirde to part ways with the organization, but that is not 100% confirmed.

WWE re-shot a match between Sin Cara and Heath Slater at Tuesday’s taping since the initial bout featured numerous botched maneuvers. Aries portrayed Cara in both matches. Alvirde was dressed to compete, but management opted not to use him.

source: PWInsider.com

Hmmm

Rollermacka
08-26-2011, 06:19 PM
Aww, I thought this was gonna be the original Sin Cara comming back to wrestle "the imposter". Then they could bring in all the other guys we talked about playing Sin Caras. Skip Cara, Brodus Cara, Sin Knox, think of the awesome shenanigans

BizarroKing
08-26-2011, 06:21 PM
Wait so Hunico botched? I'm confused....lol then again he might have botched "better" than Mistico did.

Jura
08-26-2011, 06:22 PM
Sin Swoggle. Bret "The Sinman" Hart. Sinbreak Kid Shawn Michaels. Psycho Sin Vicious. Sin Bad Vader...oh wait.

BizarroKing
08-26-2011, 06:29 PM
Sinful H, Michael Cara, Stone Cara Sin Austin, etc.

Mr. C
08-26-2011, 06:33 PM
Disagree. Yes, to people like us, I'd guess some of us would have a bigger hardon for him because he's Mistico. But to the vast majority, he's a guy that does flippy spots in the ring, points and has a cool mask/attire. Hunico does it just as well, arguably better than Mistico in the WWE world.

He's just as over now as he was when he was Mistico. There is honestly no point to having Mistico under the Sin Cara mask if someone can do it better right now.

Is he "just another luchador"? I don't know, the Sin Cara character is over in the WWE world. Luchadors rarely get as over as he has in WWE. I can honestly only think of Rey. If he's this over and "just another luchador", they should probably invest in more "just another luchadors".

Who cares if Hunico does it better than Mistico or just as well? There are luchadors better than Rey Mysterio. Does that mean they should fire Mysterio, hire another guy, and call him "Rey Mysterio?" Mistico IS Sin Cara, plain and simple.

Hunico is good, but I don't think that's a reason to fire Mistico.

Evil Vito
08-26-2011, 06:38 PM
<font color=goldenrod>That is really interesting if Hunico was the one that botched. Guess we'll find out tonight.</font>

Xero
08-26-2011, 06:39 PM
Who cares if Hunico does it better than Mistico or just as well? There are luchadors better than Rey Mysterio. Does that mean they should fire Mysterio, hire another guy, and call him "Rey Mysterio?" Mistico IS Sin Cara, plain and simple.

Hunico is good, but I don't think that's a reason to fire Mistico.

No, I think the fact that Mistico comes in, clearly can't work the style yet (which, to be fair, falls heavily on WWE for not putting him in FCW), botches left and right and he fails a fucking wellness test are reasons enough that Mistico should be replaced. Maybe not fired, but definitely put down in FCW to work on his shit and get his act together.

Honestly, I can't even say he shouldn't be fired. Someone who's that high profile of a signing should not be failing wellness, period. Let alone within months of his debut. You're only basing it off the fact that he's Mistico, not the fact that, realistically, he's a borderline embarrassment for the company.

The character is hot enough that it warranted a replacement, and they could logistically do one, unlike 90% of the roster. Believe me, if, say, Randy Orton failed wellness or got injured and they could put someone else in the character, they more than likely would.

And you really can't do it with Rey. There are too many variables (the fact that he promos, his size, his tats) that prevent someone from playing Rey. Again, if they could, I really think they would.

Mr. C
08-26-2011, 07:07 PM
No, I think the fact that Mistico comes in, clearly can't work the style yet (which, to be fair, falls heavily on WWE for not putting him in FCW), botches left and right and he fails a fucking wellness test are reasons enough that Mistico should be replaced. Maybe not fired, but definitely put down in FCW to work on his shit and get his act together.

Honestly, I can't even say he shouldn't be fired. Someone who's that high profile of a signing should not be failing wellness, period. Let alone within months of his debut. You're only basing it off the fact that he's Mistico, not the fact that, realistically, he's a borderline embarrassment for the company.

The character is hot enough that it warranted a replacement, and they could logistically do one, unlike 90% of the roster. Believe me, if, say, Randy Orton failed wellness or got injured and they could put someone else in the character, they more than likely would.

And you really can't do it with Rey. There are too many variables (the fact that he promos, his size, his tats) that prevent someone from playing Rey. Again, if they could, I really think they would.

They brought Sin Cara in as Mistico and promoted how big of a superstar he is. Being played by someone else diminishes the character. When he first came to WWE, they had a press conference and everything where they acknowledged that he used to be called Mistico, and he came out in a Mistico mask which he took off to reveal the new Sin Cara mask underneath, so yeah, it looks kinda crap if they drop him after that if someone else is going to carry on the gimmick.

Wishbone
08-26-2011, 07:43 PM
Honestly I'm happy about this from the reports I've read Mistico was a bit to high and mighty for his own good and didn't seem like he really appreciated the fact the he was being pushed to the freakin' moon. Not to mention Hunico did a great job and honestly I enjoyed his matches more than Mistico's. In the end I say it's a good decision as it saves money, puts a guy who isn't constantly screwing up under the mask, and avoids more embarassment for WWE. And to those who are saying that you can't replace him cause he IS Sin Cara and bringing up that WWE already made such a big deal about him being Mistico look at it from a casual fan's perspective most if not all of them have probably forgotten that Mistico is Cara is they ever even cared to begin with.

Mr. C
08-26-2011, 07:51 PM
Assuming the WWE can manage to acquire the rights to the Mistico name from CMLL, here’s how I’d book an angle between the imposter and original:

On an episode of SmackDown in October, “Sin Cara” wins a match against Ted DiBiase. As his music plays, Theodore Long shows up on stage and waits until the music stops. Long says that something very interesting just happened and tells us he was backstage when he received a call from none other than… Sin Cara. Long says that it turns out Sin Cara has actually been out of action since Money In The Bank and whoever is in the ring has been pretending to be Sin Cara and is an imposter. Long tells the imposter that he can’t fire him because he isn’t under contract, but he isn’t going to have him escorted from the building either. Long instead offers the imposter a match at Vengeance in a couple of weeks with the real Sin Cara, who feels his identity is now ruined upon learning of this and thus will be returning under his original ringname. Long goes on to announce that at Vengeance, it will be the Sin Cara in the ring vs. the original Sin Cara… Mistico.

At Vengeance, Sin Cara’s music plays as the imposter shows up wearing the blue and gold attire. Sin Cara’s music plays again, only this time we’re introduced to Mistico (by Tony Chimmel), who appears wearing the same gold and white attire from Money In The Bank. Eventually, it’s Mistico who scores the win and starts wearing gold and white from now on.

From here, you can go in a few different directions. It would seem more likey for the WWE to take the imposter off TV, as we’ve seen in the past (Fake Kane, Fake Undertaker, etc.), but they could debut Hunico as a heel - by either continuing this angle and revealing him as Fake Sin Cara or establishing him as a brand new character - for Mistico to feud with. Either way would work.

Droford
08-26-2011, 08:08 PM
WWE has finally created the first immortal wrestler..they can just keep changing the guy under the mask every so often and keep Sin Cara wrestling forever.

Ultra Mantis
08-26-2011, 08:12 PM
Maybe now that Hunico is Sin Cara they will have Primo be Hunico and Mistico can take over as Primo.

VSG
08-26-2011, 08:14 PM
WWE has finally created the first immortal wrestler..they can just keep changing the guy under the mask every so often and keep Sin Cara wrestling forever.

Suicide in TNA?

Xero
08-26-2011, 08:15 PM
Also, Doink the Clown.

Ultra Mantis
08-26-2011, 08:16 PM
From Hunico's wikipedia page
Born to Mexican immigrant parents in El Paso, Texas, Arias began wrestling in Burges High School where he was an accomplished state champion multiple times.[7] He then embarked onto a professional career, as he managed to continue working for his family's funeral home and Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua, Mexico in the early 2000s under the ring name "Mistico". This masked ring persona may or may not have preceded the debut of Místico in Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre (CMLL) around the same time period, but CMLL won the legal rights to the name "Místico" some time in 2005, forcing the Juarez version to change his name to "Mystico" or "Mistico de Juarez".[8

The plot thickens.

Droford
08-26-2011, 08:18 PM
Also, Doink the Clown.

Im talking about keeping the same "character" active over long term continuously...

VSG
08-26-2011, 08:23 PM
Suicide in TNA?

Triple Naitch
08-26-2011, 08:28 PM
You should consider it.

Disco Apocalypse
08-26-2011, 09:05 PM
Assuming the WWE can manage to acquire the rights to the Mistico name from CMLL, here’s how I’d book an angle between the imposter and original:

On an episode of SmackDown in October, “Sin Cara” wins a match against Ted DiBiase. As his music plays, Theodore Long shows up on stage and waits until the music stops. Long says that something very interesting just happened and tells us he was backstage when he received a call from none other than… Sin Cara. Long says that it turns out Sin Cara has actually been out of action since Money In The Bank and whoever is in the ring has been pretending to be Sin Cara and is an imposter. Long tells the imposter that he can’t fire him because he isn’t under contract, but he isn’t going to have him escorted from the building either. Long instead offers the imposter a match at Vengeance in a couple of weeks with the real Sin Cara, who feels his identity is now ruined upon learning of this and thus will be returning under his original ringname. Long goes on to announce that at Vengeance, it will be the Sin Cara in the ring vs. the original Sin Cara… Mistico.

At Vengeance, Sin Cara’s music plays as the imposter shows up wearing the blue and gold attire. Sin Cara’s music plays again, only this time we’re introduced to Mistico (by Tony Chimmel), who appears wearing the same gold and white attire from Money In The Bank. Eventually, it’s Mistico who scores the win and starts wearing gold and white from now on.

From here, you can go in a few different directions. It would seem more likey for the WWE to take the imposter off TV, as we’ve seen in the past (Fake Kane, Fake Undertaker, etc.), but they could debut Hunico as a heel - by either continuing this angle and revealing him as Fake Sin Cara or establishing him as a brand new character - for Mistico to feud with. Either way would work.

Add a third Sin Cara into the mix, who turns out to be Dean Malenko, and I'm sold...

Lock Jaw
08-26-2011, 09:14 PM
Need a Sin Cara Stable.

Jura
08-26-2011, 10:00 PM
Sinexus

Lock Jaw
08-26-2011, 10:05 PM
Sin Corre-a

Autobahn
08-26-2011, 10:07 PM
The voice of Bugs Bunny in the 1960s was a different person to the one who did it in Space Jam.

If its good enough for Warner Bros, its good enough for WWE.

Cool King
08-26-2011, 10:08 PM
Sin Corre-a

"Voy a ser tu fin de los días!"

Cool King
08-26-2011, 10:11 PM
The voice of Bugs Bunny in the 1960s was a different person to the one who did it in Space Jam.

If its good enough for Warner Bros, its good enough for WWE.

Yeah, that's because Mel Blanc was dead.

Místico isn't dead.

Corporate CockSnogger
08-26-2011, 10:27 PM
http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/theunknownguy36/Power%20Rangers/gif-1.gif

St. Jimmy
08-26-2011, 10:34 PM
I prefer Hunico.

XCaliber
08-26-2011, 10:49 PM
He really should have spent some time in FCW like Del Rio did.

This they could have him paired up with Epico and have them subbing one another.

Lock Jaw
08-26-2011, 11:15 PM
Why do all the Mexicans need names that end with an "o"?

Mister Sinister
08-26-2011, 11:19 PM
Because every mexican word ends in O

Taco
Burrito
Mexico
Danny Trejo

GD
08-26-2011, 11:47 PM
Ju<strike>a</strike>no

Captain of Fun
08-27-2011, 12:51 AM
I love how people watch a few 3 minute matches and determine that hunico is better than sin cara just from that.

I've seen incognito, and I've seen mistico, and mistico is better by miles. Incognito just had the advantage of being brought in the proper way.

Yes sin cara brought some of this on himself with the wellness violation, but they've invested too much into this character to just hand it off to someone who will do it half as good as mistico potentially could.

I would put him in fcw for a while as someone said.

And all these rumors about him "thinking too highly of himself" are just typical dirtsheet crap. You can't know for sure that it's true so it shouldn't even enter the arguement.

Rollermacka
08-27-2011, 04:11 AM
Why do all the Mexicans need names that end with an "o"?

Juventud Guerrara
Psicosis
Konnan
La Parka
Ciclope
Damian 666
Silver King
El Dandy


... Maybe its a WWE thing :-\

Sonofanarchy
08-27-2011, 06:10 AM
have a few of them(they have atleast 1 more dude in FCW whos lucha, use primo too) go take a brutal bump shit kicking every week or even twice a week, huge bump fest and somehow come out the winner as an upset after almost being crippled every week. act as if its the same guy who seems to be either really tuff or super-human

so John Cena but more bumps and just a comeback, no shitty back and fourth hogan formula offence

Captain of Fun
08-27-2011, 06:21 AM
What?

FourFifty
08-27-2011, 12:00 PM
I like the idea of Sin Cara, but if it's the first, second, third, fifth, seventh, etc Sin Cara, he needs to spend some time in FCW to learn the WWE style. You can hire a race car driver to drive a big rig cross country, but without the training he needs for that style of driving he's going to suck at his job.

Logan
08-27-2011, 12:41 PM
I agree with everyone that it's disheartening that Mistico ended up where he has ended up, but after seeing Hunico, I prefer him as Cara. I DO hope that the cara v cara match happens at some point... could be interesting.

XCaliber
08-27-2011, 02:02 PM
As much as I prefer Hunico I'm gonna miss that Toprope C4 that Mistico did.

XL
08-27-2011, 02:19 PM
All I need to know is...does Hunico speak some-a that there American?

parkmania
08-27-2011, 02:20 PM
All I need to know is...does Hunico speak some-a that there American?

I think you mean Americanese.

Juan
08-27-2011, 02:23 PM
He was born in Texas

Xero
08-27-2011, 02:30 PM
That doesn't mean he speaks English...

Juan
08-27-2011, 02:44 PM
Odds are he does tho

Lock Jaw
08-27-2011, 08:55 PM
Should have multiple Sin Caras at the same time. Like Villanos.

St. Jimmy
08-27-2011, 08:58 PM
He was born in Texas

So was Steele. :P

Aguakate
08-28-2011, 12:45 AM
That doesn't mean he speaks English...

...That probably means he speaks more English than Spanish, actually.

Captain of Fun
08-28-2011, 02:02 AM
Should have multiple Sin Caras at the same time. Like Villanos.

They should just have Villanos.

Lock Jaw
08-28-2011, 10:21 AM
Better idea.

Swiss Ultimate
08-30-2011, 03:44 AM
I think it's kind of cool that they gave this kind of treatment to a light-weight. You don't do this for someone you're expecting to top off at the mid-card. Too bad he didn't pan out.

My buddy Shiima told me that dude was a bit of a prick anyways.

Captain of Fun
08-30-2011, 03:50 AM
Who?

Mr. C
09-03-2011, 03:13 AM
Tuesday night on SmackDown, Sin Cara blasted Daniel Bryan with a kick to the head following his victory over the former United States Champion. This was done because creative was told that the original Sin Cara, Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde aka Mistico, is returning to feud with his imposter.

If Mistico is to return as the true Sin Cara, the most logical choice of color for him is white. There are two reasons why: 1. That was the same color he wore at Money In The Bank. Have him come back as he left. 2. In Mexico, Mistico wore primarily white. Having Sin Cara wear white is to show that he’s Mistico.

Jura
09-03-2011, 03:35 AM
If they do plan on Mistico coming back and feuding with Hunico I hope it starts out like this: "Sin Cara" comes out and puts on a match with ____ and the music hits. A minute later another Sin Cara appears at the top of the ramp and everyone is confused. Then the real Sin Cara runs down to attack Hunico. Sin Cara gets the upper hand and takes the fake Sin Cara's mask off revealing a different mask. The story behind it is Hunico attacked Sin Cara and has been taking his place but now that Sin Cara is "well" again he's come to take out the impostor.
I was half joking when I made that Sin Cara vs impostor idea because I didn't really think it would happen but now that it's coming true I hope it's as good as it was in my head.

XL
09-03-2011, 03:39 AM
When did you "make" this idea, Jura?

Jura
09-03-2011, 03:41 AM
August 10.

Jura
09-03-2011, 03:43 AM
Sounds like the Sin Cara vs impostor was already stated from reading what I typed though.

XL
09-03-2011, 03:43 AM
And where did this happen?

XL
09-03-2011, 03:46 AM
I only ask cos I suggested the angle August 11th and hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere else. Or at least I did't think it had been. Maybe I jacked your idea. :-\

Jura
09-03-2011, 04:01 AM
I think I found it:

This one's easy!

They'll bring back the original Sin Cara for an "Evil Twin" angle. He'll come out and poit at the new Sin Cara in an accusatory way and the audience will be expectd to fill in the blanks.

I made my post after I read this:

Masters Comments on Punk, Latest on Hunico as Sin Cara, Vince and Laurinaitis
By Marc Middleton
Aug 9, 2011 - 8:48:08 AM

- Chris Masters wrote the following on Twitter last night after CM Punk brought up his release on RAW: "CM Punk telling it like it is tonight."

Regarding his release from WWE, Masters wrote the following on Sunday and teased TNA: "After a day of digesting,I must say WWE wasn't doing anything with me.So its probably best I go make my IMpact somewhere else."

- Vince McMahon reportedly does not want John Laurinaitis to have a speaking role on WWE TV anymore as he feels Laurinaitis can't cut a good promo.

- The latest word on the Sin Cara character is that it indeed will be FCW star Hunico wrestling under the mask at tonight's SmackDown tapings. The original Sin Cara will return once his suspension is over and a feud with Hunico may end up happening on WWE TV.

Partial source: F4Wonline.com
They didn't say anything about a Sin Cara vs impostor story-line but it was probably in the works ever since he got suspended.

Juan
09-03-2011, 06:34 AM
Really glad they gave Mistico another chance. Hopefully this feud can put him over the hump.

bigslimjj
09-04-2011, 03:34 PM
Also, Doink the Clown.they had like 18 Moondogs over the years in Memphis wrestling,according to King Jerry's book,lol

Innovator
09-14-2011, 09:13 AM
SPOILERRRRRRRRRRRR



Sin Cara took on Daniel Bryan and lost by DQ when he went nuts on Bryan. This lead to the original Sin Cara coming out and them glaring at each other. It's Cara vs. Cara on Smackdown.

PorkSoda
09-14-2011, 11:02 AM
Whoever portrays Sin Cara should be careful about that senton/Lionsault finisher. I watched him perform that and I thought about that wrestler, can't think of his name, who did something similar in Japan and fell straight onto his head in the ring.

Blue Demon
09-14-2011, 11:47 AM
DUN DUN DUN

http://www.wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1316008055

whiteyford
09-14-2011, 12:09 PM
Whoever portrays Sin Cara should be careful about that senton/Lionsault finisher. I watched him perform that and I thought about that wrestler, can't think of his name, who did something similar in Japan and fell straight onto his head in the ring.

Hayabusa?

MaxPower
09-14-2011, 12:10 PM
Whoever portrays Sin Cara should be careful about that senton/Lionsault finisher. I watched him perform that and I thought about that wrestler, can't think of his name, who did something similar in Japan and fell straight onto his head in the ring.

Hayabusa did that, it ended his career

BizarroKing
09-14-2011, 12:10 PM
So the question is, will they keep the better Sin Cara or the not as good one?

Also Sascha: OMG! It's....it's.....a blank file! THE HORROR!

Blue Demon
09-14-2011, 12:23 PM
So the question is, will they keep the better Sin Cara or the not as good one?

Also Sascha: OMG! It's....it's.....a blank file! THE HORROR!

Dunno why it didn't work...there's a link to the pic now.

VSG
09-14-2011, 12:50 PM
http://www.wrestleview.com/images/sincarasmackdown.jpg

Here.

Lock Jaw
09-14-2011, 01:44 PM
I'm seeing double here!

Four Sin Caras!

Sonofanarchy
09-14-2011, 02:00 PM
I'm seeing double here!

Four Sin Caras!

me too.... 4 Sin Cara's...

Captain of Fun
09-14-2011, 02:07 PM
So the question is, will they keep the better Sin Cara or the not as good one?

Also Sascha: OMG! It's....it's.....a blank file! THE HORROR!

I hope by "good one" you mean mistico, because I'm tired of explaining this, and I'm sure Juan is too.

#BROKEN Hasney
09-14-2011, 02:26 PM
I hope by "good one" you mean mistico, because I'm tired of explaining this, and I'm sure Juan is too.

Surely that's subjective though.

Corporate CockSnogger
09-14-2011, 03:10 PM
I'm seeing double here!

Four Sin Caras!

me too.... 4 Sin Cara's...

Great joke Sonofanarchy!!!

BizarroKing
09-14-2011, 03:21 PM
I hope by "good one" you mean mistico, because I'm tired of explaining this, and I'm sure Juan is too.

Well, storyline wise Mistico is the good on, but wrestling wise, I meant Hunico the heel...but I have a feeling Mistico is gonna be the one staying.

MoFo
09-14-2011, 03:41 PM
They could of just released that bum who kept botching and kept the FCW guy and everything would of been sweet.

Now Hunico is gonna be blamed for the shitty matches between the two and binned off while Mistico gets a mega push innit.

Ultra Mantis
09-14-2011, 04:02 PM
Don't think either guy will get released, after a couple of months of feuding Hunico will see the error of his ways and they will form a Sin Cara tag team and win the titles within two weeks.

BizarroKing
09-14-2011, 04:04 PM
Don't think either guy will get released, after a couple of months of feuding Hunico will see the error of his ways and they will form a Sin Cara tag team and win the titles within two weeks.

So in other words....they'll be.....DOS CARAS!

Rammsteinmad
09-14-2011, 04:47 PM
Kinda feel likes it's too early for the whole imposter thing. WWE has been great lately, so I have faith this'll be a good feud to set up 'the real' Sin Cara nice and good. But just kinda feel 'meh' about the imposter angle right now.

I'm sure it'll lead to some fantastic matches though.

Mr. C
09-14-2011, 05:38 PM
Evil Cara should start wearing black and red.

VSG
09-14-2011, 06:57 PM
This now means nearly everyone on the active roster is in some sort of a storyline.

Aguakate
09-14-2011, 07:00 PM
...I just want to point out that I said this was going to happen WAY before it even started up as a rumor...

...you know...don't hate, congratulate.

Captain of Fun
09-14-2011, 07:14 PM
They could of just released that bum who kept botching and kept the FCW guy and everything would of been sweet.

Now Hunico is gonna be blamed for the shitty matches between the two and binned off while Mistico gets a mega push innit.


The FCW guy who botched an entire match so bad that they had to redo the whole thing?

parkmania
09-15-2011, 02:06 PM
So in other words....they'll be.....DOS CARAS!

DUN DUN DUUUUUNNNNNNNNN!

Corporate CockSnogger
09-15-2011, 02:10 PM
I don't really cara bout this storyline much.

Chavo Classic
09-15-2011, 02:41 PM
This now means nearly everyone on the active roster is in some sort of a storyline.

I had noticed that. This is something we haven't seen since the Vince Russo days of writing - and not the terrible Vince Russo of WCW or TNA, but the good days when he had the filter of Vince and the other writers. Criticise Russo as much as you want, but back then he had everyone in the mid card up doing something.... and it was entertaining.

I like where the (cliche alert) tag division seems to be going with Air Boom, The World's Most Boring Tag team feuding with Lawler, while Miz & Truth are putting together some awesome promos.

Mr. C
09-15-2011, 03:42 PM
http://pwpix.net/superstars/m/mistico/gallery/photoscans/1/gallery1/010g.jpg

Aguakate
09-16-2011, 12:46 AM
http://pwpix.net/superstars/m/mistico/gallery/photoscans/1/gallery1/010g.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2vm5zk7.gif