View Full Version : So it finally happened..*RAW Spoiler*
Droford
08-29-2011, 09:08 PM
RIP WWE Brand Extension 3/18/02-8/29/11
After all the talk about how they should end it and all, it finally happened..and it went out with more of a whimper/afterthought than I expected. HHH is just sort of like "Hey, Im letting smackdown guys be on RAW now..and now lets bring out Kevin Nash to nWo music!!"..
sort of like the whole Annonymous GM angle..
loopydate
08-29-2011, 09:11 PM
Wow. I think somebody might actually murder you for spoiling that. Like legitimately drive to your house and stab you until you're dead.
Tazz Dan
08-29-2011, 09:17 PM
Yeah wtf dude.
Tazz Dan
08-29-2011, 09:20 PM
Don't know if this is actually a spoiler, haven't seen the show. But still.....
Droford
08-29-2011, 09:20 PM
oh boo hoo..with how they treated it I wouldnt consider it a huge spoiler..
and now when you read the thread you have no idea what I was originally talking about..it looks like the WWE is DEAD or something lol
Krimzon7
08-29-2011, 09:22 PM
Bout fucking time
Aguakate
08-29-2011, 09:35 PM
Wow. I think somebody might actually murder you for spoiling that. Like legitimately drive to your house and stab you until you're dead.
LOL...the guy put RAW SPOILER...
...Whoever came in and read it, did it KNOWING it was a RAW SPOILER...
...so...no harm done.
DLVH84
08-29-2011, 09:36 PM
Now let's unify the WWE and World titles.
loopydate
08-29-2011, 09:37 PM
He changed the title. It was originally "RIP Brand Extension" with the date it started, hyphen, today's date.
#1-norm-fan
08-29-2011, 09:39 PM
I haven't seen Raw yet being on the west coast and all. But this doesn't sound like the END of the brand split. Just them letting SD guys wrestle on Raw to get more exposure. Like they did with ECW/SD back in the day. I don't particularly like the idea. I'm just saying, this doesn't sound THAT earth shattering.
Aguakate
08-29-2011, 09:39 PM
...Well, then...KILL HIM.
BizarroKing
08-29-2011, 09:40 PM
So how many tims will this topic be edited?
Mr. JL
08-29-2011, 09:42 PM
Sounds too good to be true.
Aguakate
08-29-2011, 09:44 PM
It's just temporary, I'd say...I don't think it's THE END.
Shisen Kopf
08-29-2011, 10:39 PM
Big up to droford. It's not a spoiler, its on right now. People in other countries? Who cares
St. Jimmy
08-29-2011, 11:18 PM
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BOUT FUCKIN' TIME.
When you hover the cursor next to the title the spoiler shows up :'(
Theo Dious
08-29-2011, 11:21 PM
Umm... this isn't the first time the brand split has seriously been blurred. Around the time WWECW started up there was very little distinction among brands. It happens from time to time. They'll tighten it up again when they feel like it, and there is going to be no title unification any time soon.
Shisen Kopf
08-29-2011, 11:21 PM
The show is over in the Eastern USA so it's not a spoiler for anyone who matters
Tedious with the inside scoop
Droford
08-29-2011, 11:38 PM
Umm... this isn't the first time the brand split has seriously been blurred. Around the time WWECW started up there was very little distinction among brands. It happens from time to time. They'll tighten it up again when they feel like it, and there is going to be no title unification any time soon.
Id be willing to say that they'll have the belts (World/WWE and US/IC) unified by the end of the year.
http://i2.listal.com/image/productsus/1000/B00005RIYI/movies/wwe-vengeance-2001.jpg
Its no coincidence they're bringing back that PPV in October.
Lock Jaw
08-29-2011, 11:55 PM
Yeah, if everybody is gonna be on both shows now, there really is no point in having two world titles.
Droford
08-30-2011, 12:03 AM
I figure they'll do it just like they did back in 2001
Probably Orton vs Henry and Cena vs Punk?
MARK HENRY FOR NEW UNDISPUTED CHAMPION!
jkman61494
08-30-2011, 12:36 AM
Yeah, if everybody is gonna be on both shows now, there really is no point in having two world titles.
More marketability having so many guys have a belt.
Logan
08-30-2011, 12:39 AM
I'm hardly surprised that the brand extension is supposedly "dead" now (though I guess itll have to be somehow confirmed on SD just to make it complete).
To me the brand extension/split "died" years ago. For a few years after it happened, I thought it worked pretty well, by having the undercard on fairly regularly (which I thought was the entire point); but then that changed (when it happened specifically, no idea), and they went back to their classic method of having most of their top and some mid card people on, and shelving the rest.
Mr. C
08-30-2011, 01:19 AM
The only bad thing about this is that the point of the brand split is to give more wrestlers more time on air. Hope it's only temporary.
The Pope
08-30-2011, 01:25 AM
Id be willing to say that they'll have the belts (World/WWE and US/IC) unified by the end of the year.
http://i2.listal.com/image/productsus/1000/B00005RIYI/movies/wwe-vengeance-2001.jpg
Its no coincidence they're bringing back that PPV in October.
Look at all that talent. :y: :yes:
This discussion definately couldn't have happened in the still active Raw Thread. :roll:
Id be willing to say that they'll have the belts (World/WWE and US/IC) unified by the end of the year.
http://i2.listal.com/image/productsus/1000/B00005RIYI/movies/wwe-vengeance-2001.jpg
Its no coincidence they're bringing back that PPV in October.
As a matter of fact, Vengeance evolved into Night of Champions. Remember Vengeance: Night of Champions 2007 when John Cena pinned Mick Foley?
The MAC
08-30-2011, 04:04 AM
NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THE MAIN THING ABOUT POSSIBILITY OF THE NWO REFORMING!
http://www.miserableretailslave.com/Hollywood%20Hogan.jpg
will be back in WWE!
Aguakate
08-30-2011, 04:06 AM
Nah.
One can only hope Scott Hall will somehow be involved...maybe this will give him an incentive to stay clean and sober.
Rammsteinmad
08-30-2011, 04:43 AM
I'm probably in the minority, but I hope the brand split stays. So many stars are gonna suddenly lose a lot of air time if they reunite the brands.
Cool King
08-30-2011, 07:44 AM
As a matter of fact, Vengeance evolved into Night of Champions. Remember Vengeance: Night of Champions 2007 when John Cena pinned Mick Foley?
Yeah, because that's what everyone remembers Vengeance: Night of Champions for. :lol:
Cool King
08-30-2011, 07:46 AM
http://www.thesuperficial.com/2007/06/27/chris-benoit-messages.jpg
Autobahn
08-30-2011, 07:48 AM
I'm probably in the minority, but I hope the brand split stays. So many stars are gonna suddenly lose a lot of air time if they reunite the brands.
Agree. Plus (and i may be wrong) it would mean wrestlers would be working more shows and more demands on their body. Unless they work around this somehow?
El Fangel
08-30-2011, 07:48 AM
I came in here expecting a "Cena lost"
Though I am happy for this news.
El Fangel
08-30-2011, 07:53 AM
I haven't watched wrestling in a while. If they had a show on Mon, Wed, Fri (I think they do) at two hours a piece and have PPV at 4 hours it would work.
No. That would be overkill.
Innovator
08-30-2011, 09:31 AM
You want the writers to pump out 6 hours of new TV each week, with an additonal 2 every 3-4 weeks? The writing is redundant as it is now.
"Haven't watched in a while" = redundant opinion.
Innovator
08-30-2011, 09:35 AM
Listen, I haven't watched in a while, BUT it suxors!
El Fangel
08-30-2011, 10:18 AM
I have attempted to watch wrestling several times now. Each time, Cena shows up and I switch the channel.
Perhaps Ill try again soon.
Innovator
08-30-2011, 10:21 AM
Cena has been tolerable lately as long as he doesn't go into the "poopy" jokes.
XCaliber
08-30-2011, 11:12 AM
Highly doubt the brand split is going to end I think this is just a test too see how the ratings do and unless they go up significantly enough it ainčt happening cuz having 2 shows touring creates more revenue for them.
Droford
08-30-2011, 11:45 AM
You want the writers to pump out 6 hours of new TV each week, with an additonal 2 every 3-4 weeks? The writing is redundant as it is now.
arent nxt and superstars, albeit on the internet, essentially the extra 2 hours a week?
Highly doubt the brand split is going to end I think this is just a test too see how the ratings do and unless they go up significantly enough it ainčt happening cuz having 2 shows touring creates more revenue for them.
One thing I figured is that WWE used to run SD house shows on Mondays, but obviously they either will have to stop that or run them with limited talent which would decrease interest a ton.
Innovator
08-30-2011, 11:47 AM
ok so make it 8 hours then.
Mr. C
08-30-2011, 01:51 PM
From what I understand, SmackDown guys will be on RAW while RAW will remain solely on RAW, so the guys in trouble are those like Drew McIntyre and Primo, but I don’t think it’s the end. It means we’ll see more talent drift over to RAW to compete every so often, but I don’t think it means CM Punk and John Cena are going to be on SmackDown, for example.
I don’t think it’s the end of the brand split for 2 reasons:
1. The commentary kept referring to people from shows: Jack Swagger from RAW, Sheamus from SmackDown, etc.
2. Triple-H said foreseeable future. These super shows will end at some point. This will go on for a month or two.
I don’t think it’s as long term as people think it is. This is more of a gimmick for some ratings that the show desperately needs (ex: guest host).
I have attempted to watch wrestling several times now. Each time, Cena shows up and I switch the channel.
Perhaps Ill try again soon.
Yet you're an advocate for ending the split? You realise that would mean Cena on EVERY broadcast, right?
El Fangel
08-30-2011, 02:19 PM
Yet you're an advocate for ending the split? You realise that would mean Cena on EVERY broadcast, right?
I just want things the way they were when I enjoyed wrestling. :(
Droford
08-30-2011, 03:23 PM
I think Theodore R Long gets the boot tonight. Either HHH puts Steph in charge or he just runs everything.
Emperor Smeat
08-30-2011, 05:02 PM
I actually like the brand split because of how many more wrestlers benefited from the split and even when Raw was just about Triple H in the beginning or Cena now, Smackdown had something different for their main events or focus.
Most likely this is just for the short term either because the Fall sweeps are coming soon or to at least keep people from just ignoring the show once Monday Night Football returns.
parkmania
08-30-2011, 05:21 PM
My $.02:
The "Raw Super Show" will continue through the NFL season, then will end. WWE knows they lose viewers during MNF and are trying this to hold on to as many as possible.
EDIT: Grrr... Had to deal with customers and didn't hit the submit post button in time.
Theo Dious
08-31-2011, 12:48 AM
I'm speechless that so many people miss the marketing here.
The stated reason for this is that there is little interest in the Smackdown brand.
To counter that, you mix both brands for a while to garner further interest.
When this is perceived as having been achieved, you ratchet up the split again, so that people who have been hooked on certain wrestlers have no choice but to watch Smackdown to see them.
Why is this so hard to understand?
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