Sons of Anarchy Season 4

[MVP]

10 PM tonight :D

Who's watching?

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[Sonofanarchy]

duh....first torrent cause i'm in canada and don't want to ruin it on a shitty stream... that girl in that mess of a thread in the other forum likes all those shows(oz, sopranos, the shield, the wire and the other holy 10) so we're supposed to get her caught up first but I'm still going to watch it and pretend to watch it again for the first time with her.

I saw a preview in canada on the Super Chanel but I think it wasn't until Mid-September(so stupid, same thing with weeds, plays on a few week delay so everyone who knows how and likes the show gets a torrent)

[OldSchoolFan]

Sitting on pins and needles...well actually watching "NS" and the 4 bridging scenes on the BluRay

[MVP]

I just watched those as well for the first time. Really hope we learn more about John Teller's death in this season.

[OldSchoolFan]

Based on the scenes and part the 3 minute preview floating it looks to be HUGE part of this season...

[Sonofanarchy]

Was it Jemma who killed him or both or what?

[St. Jimmy]

This show sucks.

[OldSchoolFan]

Was it Jemma who killed him or both or what?

I am thinking Gemma and Clay and that Piney knows alot and could possibly have stopped it... from the previews and the postings by Sutter we may finally have these questions answered this year. So loved the premiere last night. The end killing spree was great... loved when Otto got revenge for Jax

[illmatic]

when was jax stabbed by the russians? Was that supposed to happen over the off season between 3-4? or did I miss something?

[OldSchoolFan]

Was on the season spanning things.. it happened in prison. Got him good too, they talk like he nearly died. The 4 clips are; that stabbing, A clip where Tara talks to Piney about John's death possibly not being an accident and Piney goes on a spiel about keeping the past dead for her, Jax and the children's safety; a cluip of Jax meeting Thomas for the 1st time; and a clip of a basketball game where the guys discuss the plans to get more money working with the russians, IRA, Niners, and Mayans

[The Destroyer]

Not going to read any of this topic (since they're still in the middle of showing Season 3 in the UK and I'm spoilerphobic), but just to say I absolutely love this show. Hope they don't wait as long to show Season 4 here.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Aye, only half way through season 3 at the mo.

[MVP]

In that case

I can't believe they took out that many Russians so soon. I think that may lay the tracks for something down the road, but it looks like this seasons is focusing on the Club itself and this drug deal that was previewed for next week.

[OldSchoolFan]

In that case

I can't believe they took out that many Russians so soon. I think that may lay the tracks for something down the road, but it looks like this seasons is focusing on the Club itself and this drug deal that was previewed for next week.


I am just hoping the whole J.T. situation is revealed... based on the bonus thing on the S3 set I feel that Piney not only knows what "really" happened and could possibly have stopped it but didn't which would make him giving Jax the transcript more of a I fucked up and let J.T. down now I am gonna try and get Jax out of the life.

[RoXer]

So they also killed the undercover FBI agent, right?

[Malfeitor]

I'm sure we will get a hell of a lot more information about John Teller in this season. They've done a good job building up the interest over the course of the show.

[Malfeitor]

This show sucks.

BLASPHEMY.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

So they also killed the undercover FBI agent, right?

Yes, pretty sure they showed him.

[Downunder]

Yes, pretty sure they showed him.

Yup he's dead

[Sonofanarchy]

That ADA...wonder whats with him...

[Hanso Amore]

This show shares alot of actors in common with lost and Deadwood.

This seasons addition is the ADA who was the Preacher opn Deadwood.

That blonde from Irelands (johns whore) was trixie on deadwood and was on Lost. Their female lawyer was Jane on deadwood and Juliets sister on lost.

Jimmy o Fallon was TMIB on lost and was a henchman on deadwood.

Charlie Utter = The Cancer ridden Sherriff.

I think im missing a few.

[Hanso Amore]

That was a slightly drunken psot so ignore the spelling and grammar

[MVP]

Sprague Grayden, the girl who played Donna in season one has been in a bunch of shows too. She played President Taylor's daughter in 24, the school teacher in Jericho during its short run, and she was the biker chick that Andy was trying to get with near the end of season three of Weeds.

[OldSchoolFan]

I am so excited for the debut of Trejo on this season this week... kinda interested in Hasselhoff playing on it too, plus heard with addition of Hasselhoff we will see Tom Arnold return... I have wondered how this show did not get a crap load of Emmy nods.

[Malfeitor]

As if shit wasn't hitting the fan before, I'm sure it'll just get more and more intense this season.

[Sonofanarchy]

I always thought Tom Arnold would return with hired mafia guys that back his porn opperation, Maybe not a huge deal on their own (low level assosiates) but with everything ells going on.

[OldSchoolFan]

Its a nice little side headache for the Sons to handle

[Skippord]

Bobby is looking more and more like Captain Lou Albano every episode

[OldSchoolFan]

So who thinks the JT death just got more ineresting? I been kind of thinking Unser was indirectly involved because the truck and his trucking business but now I think he had way more knowledge of the events. Kind of wondering if Clay even knows what REALLY happpenend

[Sonofanarchy]

I don't think he does, and why did that ADA guy remind me of CM Punk for some reason?

[Hanso Amore]

Clay knows. THey have hinted at it before. Gemma and him talking about "what really happened".

But now we see Unser is in the know.

I like how battle lines are getting drawn. I think we are going to see Bobby Elvis Piney and Tig splintering from Clay and Jax backing Clay for his out, which is going to make it tough on Opie. Side will be picked.

[Malfeitor]

Tig's departure has been a long time coming. Tig's definitely on the outside and looking in when it comes to Clay's circle.

I wonder how Bobby feels about Jax wanting out though.

[MVP]

Piney is stirring the pot now with the JT murder "mystery". Love Piney.

[ClockShot]

Kozik pretty much disappeared last night.

[OldSchoolFan]

Things are about to get NASTY!!! The club is going to have a very hard time bouncing back from this.

[Wolfpack423]

Bobby is looking more and more like Captain Lou Albano every episode

Haha he definitely is. I am a big fan of the Bobby Elvis character though. I wonder what will happen between him and Clay. I definitely see something big happening between them.

[MVP]

I'm liking the fact that Bobby is actually being given some substance this season, rather than being the middleman between Clay and Jax.

[Wolfpack423]

I'm liking the fact that Bobby is actually being given some substance this season, rather than being the middleman between Clay and Jax.

I agree with you. I like that Bobby has been given a better angle to his character and is voicing his opinion more. I think Clay is going to make him take a dirt nap though for it unfortunately, but at least Bobby knows what the right thing is.

[Hanso Amore]

Poor Otto.

HE sacrificed so much for the club and finds out that either his wife was cheating, or his club killed her, either way its not good.

[OldSchoolFan]

Poor Otto.

HE sacrificed so much for the club and finds out that either his wife was cheating, or his club killed her, either way its not good.

I told my wife when they killed her off the fact that she had been sleeping with Bobby would bite them in the ass... just figured after it was not mentioned for the whole last season it was not going to happen.

[ClockShot]

Hoff makes his debut tonight.

[OldSchoolFan]

Ok well... I think there is WAY more to the Clay/Gemma/John thing than has been revealed although what was revealed was HUGE!

[ClockShot]

Lies, lies, and more lies.

By the time the season is over, they're gonna have a damn mountain built.

[Hanso Amore]

So my thoughts....

Gemma thinks Clay killed John so they could be together.

Clay ACTUALLY did it for the GUNS.

Unser covered it up to help Gemma and because he thought it was going to be good for Charming.

CLAY SWERVED EVERYONE.

[Juan]

What are we on? Episode 4 barely? This is shaping up to be a great season

[Hanso Amore]

Holy Fuck. I hate Juice now. Chibs is onto him.

And Damn with this Tara Hit thing. Getting crazy good here lads.

With exception of Happy, EVERY single member has their own story going, first time in the series.

[Skippord]

wish Happy had his own story

or just murdered someone each episode

[Hanso Amore]

wish Happy had his own story

or just murdered someone each episode

I have really liked Happy since he first showed up. Not sure he was ever supposed to be a major player but he got bigger. Loved his reception of Jax after Jax's first kill "Henry Rollins"

Where is Kozik?

[Hanso Amore]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO JUICE

[RoXer]

I heard a branch snap and then an impact so we'll see

[MVP]

Where is Kozik?

Yeah seriously, I was hoping to see more of him this season.

[ClockShot]

Yeah......so.........how about last night?

[Hanso Amore]

Fuck me running, what an amazing episode.

[MVP]

Best episode of the season thus far. Maybe one of the best in the series.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I get the feeling this is going to reignite Opie's hatred of Clay. Even if Clay tries to blame the rival Cartel, it was still Clay's decision to get them into drugs. Between that, and Tara, I'm wondering if they're going to kill Clay within this season or the next.

[RoXer]

I dunno but I better get a fucking flashback episode soon here or I will be pissed

[Hanso Amore]

I think its about time that the Fat Prospect gets patched.

Dude was a prospect, they went in for 18 months and patched in Miles, and the dude is still there. He put a few rounds in someone this week, and he passed the tests when the coke went missing.

[ClockShot]

I get the feeling this is going to reignite Opie's hatred of Clay. Even if Clay tries to blame the rival Cartel, it was still Clay's decision to get them into drugs. Between that, and Tara, I'm wondering if they're going to kill Clay within this season or the next.

True, there are vibes going around that Clay should be killed off. But, anybody notice that he's killed off 3 of the First 9?

[MVP]

So how about that Clay guy?

[Skippord]

beat the fucking breaks off of Gemma

[OldSchoolFan]

Just watched last nights episode and...

Who puts th bullet in Clay's head and does Tara survive?

There is Jax-find out about hit

Opie-killed dad and wife

Unser-all this hell he getting stuck in middle of and nothing to lose

Tig-Gemma and find out all the shit

Gemma-duh lol

Tara-throw us all off

Other?

[Juan]

Can you translate that last post into English?

[OldSchoolFan]

Yeah, who is going to kill Clay with all the likely suspects...

[Hanso Amore]

Had this been renewed for next season? I feel like there is no way this wraps up that allows for another year.

[Hanso Amore]

Can you translate that last post into English?

Go figure, this comes from the Mexican....

[ClockShot]

Had this been renewed for next season? I feel like there is no way this wraps up that allows for another year.

Yup. Season 5 is a go. Posted that in the Fall TV thread somewhere I think.

[Hanso Amore]

NICE

[Dragon]

Can't believe Lem/Kozik got blown up again.

It seems like almost a certainty that Clay will be killed off. Gonna be interesting to see where they go next season if he is.

Kurt Sutter said in an interview he has a loose idea of where he wants to go with the show and that extends 7 seasons so there's obviously some plan for seasons after Clay (if he does get killed off).

[MVP]

Yeah, who is going to kill Clay with all the likely suspects...

Even before I saw this week's episode, my money is on Opie.

[Dragon]

I think it has to be Jax that does it. The story between Jax and Clay has been a main topic since the first episode.

Even though Opie has probably the most reasons to do it at the moment, I think ultimately Jax does it.

[Hanso Amore]

I think Opie is going to try, and get killed doing so...

[OldSchoolFan]

Yup. Season 5 is a go. Posted that in the Fall TV thread somewhere I think.

plus they got an extra episode this year so 14 as opposed to the normal 13

[OldSchoolFan]

I think Opie is going to try, and get killed doing so...

I will be pissed!!!

[Juan]

Really didn't think Clay's death would come that abruptly.

[Hanso Amore]

Really didn't think Clay's death would come that abruptly.

No kidding. WOW.

[OldSchoolFan]

soo tempted to click the spoiler right now... had church event so had to DVR the episode... watching the minute I get off work... just tell me-was this episode as epic as it has been in recent weeks?

[RP]

Yah, Opie kills Clay

[RoXer]

He's been shot twice in the chest. He may not be dead. He may be bleedingout/dying. Enough time to save him or get some dying words out next episode.

[RoXer]

AND WHERE THE FUCK IS MY FLASHBACK EPISODE?

[OldSchoolFan]

Looks to be at least a series of flashbacks in the upcoming episode based on the preview... I am still trying to figure Potter out and want to know what we are missing that is in those letters...

[Hanso Amore]

What do you mean what we are missing? Its been spelled out pretty clearly what is in those letters.

John Teller knew Clay and Gemma were hooking up, he didnt like the direction the club was going in, and planned on stopping it, he feared for his life, and then died.

[OldSchoolFan]

I just thing there is more that is possibly deeper... Not sure why but I feel something is "missing" like I wonder if there was more of a double cross that Gemma knew about due to Clay appearing to want to keep her from reading the letters...

[RoXer]

There is absolutely more to be revealed, that's why there needs to be a flashback episode

[OldSchoolFan]

Yeah, with Kurt Sutter running things you KNOW there is going to be a serious WTF swerve... like all this stuff with Juice and Otto, how in the hell are they gonna get by this one??? The end of last season shows that we can never really know what is going to happen.

[Sixx]

What day of the week does this show air?

I got into it and want to see the new episode already.

[ClockShot]

Tuesdays.

[OldSchoolFan]

So I now think Opie did not finish the job... based on the fact that they have a poll on the SOA FB page asking if we think he is dead...

[Hanso Amore]

I think there is no doubt he is dead if you watch the Preview for this week and hear people "talking" about it.

[Sixx]

Dunno. I hope he succeeded.

It was so unexpected for me, the way he just capped him, in spite of Jax pointing at him.

Totally marked out.

[Sixx]

I honestly wouldn't want to see a whole season of Peggy Bundy monologues sitting by Clay's bed while he's in a coma.

[Malfeitor]

Dunno. I hope he succeeded.

It was so unexpected for me, the way he just capped him, in spite of Jax pointing at him.

Totally marked out.

Same here. Definitely unexpected. I was just like "Holy shit!"

What a great cliffhanger.

[OldSchoolFan]

Well this is it... all the possibilities for tonight, although the most obvious is hinted at by tonight's "theme song" but still I feel epicness awaits...

[Hanso Amore]

What is the theme?

[OldSchoolFan]

"House of The Rising Sun", a few of the websites selling the Season 1-4 soundtrack have "(Season 4 Finale Theme Song)" written beside it.

[ClockShot]

Was doing a little reading on tvguide.com last week and all they let out about the finale is

"Tara's actions will remind you of Gemma more than ever. Potter will surprisingly go above and beyond to help SAMCRO. And by the season's end, someone new is holding the gavel while someone else is conspicuously absent from the chapel."

[OldSchoolFan]

God I can not wait moreso now... but after tonight the LONG down period starts lol

[Malfeitor]

Really excited for tonight. I've been watching Breaking Bad inbetween Sons episodes to keep myself busy.

[OldSchoolFan]

WOW just WOW!!! So much left open... so much change, loved this episode!

[Juan]

Kinda thought there would be a big twist at the end like last season

[Juan]

and now the wait begins.........

[Juan]

I guess you can argue that Romeo and Luis being CIA was a twist

[RP]

I thought the last ep was fantastic. Very well done.

[Juan]

I liked it too, just wasn't what I was expecting

[ClockShot]

Amazing episode last night. I got Justified to hold me over now.

I gotta say, the club took a big hit in the body count this season. Kozik, Piney, and Miles are gone. Bobby's in Jail for who knows how long.

I wanna see Sutter go after a name offseason to bring aboard full time to make up for the loss. Not someone of superstar caliber, but one we all recognize and could agree would do awesome on the show.

[OldSchoolFan]

Kinda old news but it appears Sutter going to get all 7 seasons he wanted... 6 is garunteed 7th is thought to be all but locked up...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sons-of-anarchy-renewed-kurt-sutter-fx-287031

[Tazz Dan]

I sat down over 5 days and watched all 4 seasons for the first time. Fucking wow. Can't wait for Season 5 to start, will Clay get killed, will Xero get patched, and Tara is turning into a mean bitch, where will she go from here?

[RP]

Amazing episode last night. I got Justified to hold me over now.

I gotta say, the club took a big hit in the body count this season. Kozik, Piney, and Miles are gone. Bobby's in Jail for who knows how long.

I wanna see Sutter go after a name offseason to bring aboard full time to make up for the loss. Not someone of superstar caliber, but one we all recognize and could agree would do awesome on the show.

Brendan Fraisor

[Skippord]

does Jimmy Smits count?

[Skippord]

also the "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT" guy from Lost?

[RP]

I watched the first episode of Lost and I swear within two minutes. ” WAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLTTTTTTTT ! ”

[Malfeitor]

Will he kill Tara and Gemma in the same fashion that he killed Libby and Ana Lucia?