For You Kris P.: Vitor Belfort vs. Cung Le UFC 139 (now ft. extra Hendo) [Archive]

Mr. C

09-10-2011, 05:31 PM

This fight makes no sense for Belfort. Cung Le isn’t going to move him up in the rankings. With that said, Belfort is going to destroy Cung Le. He’ll feel him out for a minute and a half then swarm him. This won’t even be a contest. Whoever doesn’t think so is crazy.

alvarado52

09-10-2011, 08:14 PM

I always thought Le was all hype by Strikeforce

Kris P Lettus

09-10-2011, 10:33 PM

He told me he wanted to retire.. I guess acting isn't panning out for him..

CSL

09-19-2011, 08:05 PM

This is going to be Kris P's favourite card ever, Hendo vs. Shogun has just been confirmed for it

Strikeforce light-heavyweight champion Dan Henderson has opted to return to the UFC ranks following his last Strikeforce win over Fedor Emelianenko. He has likely vacated his title to pursue UFC gold.

Set to spoil his return to the Octagon is former UFC light-heavyweight champion Mauricio “Shogun” Rua.

UFC 139 is set to take place on November 19th at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, California. With the original heavyweight title fight headliner between champ Cain Velasquez and Junior Santos moving from UFC 139 to UFC on FOX 1 the organization is likely looking for a replacement main event. The Henderson vs. Rua fight is a likely replacement for the slot.

Rua just took out Forrest Griffin in the UFC Rio co-main event; it was his first appearance and victory since losing his title to Jon Jones.

Henderson returns off the heels of his heavyweight victory over Fedor Emelianenko under the Strikeforce banner. At 41-years old Henderson was able to capture the Strikeforce crown with a punishing knockout victory over Rafael Feijao this past March at Strikeforce Columbus.

Both fighters will be looking to advance to title contention with a victory.

MoFo

09-20-2011, 10:26 AM

Why didnt they just milk the unification thing while Overeem, Hendo and Diaz were still champs.......hate to see SF die like this...

Next Big Thing

09-20-2011, 10:44 AM

Business if you think about it. Strikeforce has a contract with Showtime so if Zuffa started unifying titles and folding 3 of the 5 weight classes into the UFC Showtime could probably sue for breach of contract. By bleeding them dry of all the talented/exciting fighters, Showtime can't complain since the divisions themselves are still in tact and the contract is between them and Strikeforce not them and Strikeforce fighters.

Funky Fly

09-20-2011, 01:12 PM

Why didnt they just milk the unification thing while Overeem, Hendo and Diaz were still champs.......hate to see SF die like this...

That's what happens when you let the equivalent of a retarded chimp run your organization. As soon as Strikeforce's contract is up, they're gonna end up folding. Guys like Overeem and Shields wouldn't be vacating titles to jump ship if they weren't aware of it. Better to jump ship and lock in bigger pay days than wait till the only competition the UFC really has folds and get low balled.

Next Big Thing

09-20-2011, 01:51 PM

There is no competition. Zuffa owns the UFC and Strikeforce, which means they own the contracts of Strikeforce fighters so it's not really jumping ship to go from one organization to another since Zuffa owns the guy and will make money off him either way and he doesn't really have any leverage for negotiation. If Dana wants you in the UFC, you'll be in the UFC. If he doesn't want you in the UFC, not only will you not be in the UFC, you won't be in Strikeforce either (unless you're Paul Daley and you already signed a contract so there isn't shit Dana can do but huff and puff).

Reavant

09-20-2011, 03:39 PM

theyre doing it to phase out showtime

SuperSlim

09-21-2011, 04:20 PM

Last week, Cung Le was scheduled to fight Vitor Belfort in the de facto UFC 139 main event. Earlier this week, the UFC officially brought back Dan Henderson into the promotion, slotting him in the top slot of UFC 139 against Mauricio Rua. Now Dana White tweets that Le-Belfort is off:

Vitor is injured and out of San Jose fight. Now Cung Le will fight Wandy!

The interesting thing here is that by replacing Belfort with a man lower on the middleweight totem pole, the UFC has, in my eyes, put together a better fight. Le was overmatched against Belfort, and a fight with Wanderlei is much more competitive for him. It's also a good test for Wanderlei. A repeat of his fight against Chris Leben is further evidence that the UFC should play the Chuck Liddell card on him.

Le is 6-1 in his MMA career, with all of his fights taking place in San Jose for Strikeforce. He last fought in June of 2010, knocking out Scott Smith in a rematch.

Wanderlei Silva lost his last fight to Chris Leben by knockout. He is 2-4 since he signed with the UFC in 2007.

So yeah... Belfort is out... Wandy is in. Now what to think of the fight?

Mr. C

09-21-2011, 04:22 PM

Oh, boy. Wanderlei is getting knocked out again.

Guarantee you Belfort didn’t want to fight Le because it was a lose-lose for him. He just posted on Twitter that he’ll be ready to fight in December. :shifty:

Doubt he fights at 140, which already has Big Nog/Mir II and Lil Nog/Ortiz. Possibly 141, which is headlined by Overeem/Lesnar. I don't really see Hendricks/Fitch co-headlining, so throw Belfort/Okami as the co-main event on the card, along with a couple of fights like McGee/Herman and Volkmann/Tavares, and you've got a solid card.

SuperSlim

09-21-2011, 04:50 PM

I think Wandy will take a different approach than the Leben fight so he could probably come out with a win in this one.

CSL

09-21-2011, 07:06 PM

Guarantee you Belfort didn’t want to fight Le

bollocks

CSL

09-21-2011, 09:47 PM

Hendo/Shogun confirmed as #1 contenders match

Crimson

09-21-2011, 11:51 PM

Love that fight

Kris P Lettus

09-25-2011, 10:31 AM

WAR HENDO

:love:

Kris P Lettus

11-01-2011, 10:47 PM

Kris P Lettus

11-05-2011, 09:05 PM

Martin Kampman vs Rick Story
Faber vs Bowles
Bonnar vs Kingsbury

I'm def gonna get this one..

Also, as much as I love Shogun, I think he'll be missing some teeth after this one..

:love: HENDO

Also, I really hope Cung Le looks good (which he will) and finishes Wandy.. He'll set himself up for a run at 185 in the UFC and possibly end Wandy's career.. Two birds, one stone..

Next Big Thing

11-06-2011, 03:38 PM

I dunno Kris P... I like Cung Le a lot, but the Axe Murderer isn't Scott Smith or Frank Shamrock. Fighting Wandy is a huge step up in competition even though he isn't that good anymore. I think Wandy is going to tear through him and hopefully retire with a win.

Kris P Lettus

11-06-2011, 03:52 PM

Wandy is 2-6 in the past 5 years.. Those 2 wins were against Bisping and Jardine.. Not really like he's the cream of the crop right now.. Out of the 6 losses, 4 of them were by KO/TKO..

In that same time, Cung Le is 7-1..

This is not the Wandy of old.. I mean sure, he could def win and will always have a punchers chance but so does Cung Le..

Next Big Thing

11-06-2011, 04:00 PM

True true. But look who he's lost to compared to the guys Cung Le has beaten. Bisping and Jardine are much tougher opponents than the guys Cung Le has beaten and Wandy's losses are to Hall of Famers and guys who are tough as hell.

Next Big Thing

11-06-2011, 04:01 PM

Either way I'm excited for this card.

Kris P Lettus

11-06-2011, 04:02 PM

Me too..

I'll def be getting this one..

Jura

11-18-2011, 04:57 PM

Tomorrow night.

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Mr. JL

11-19-2011, 03:28 PM

Anyone know if Hendo - Shogun is 5 rounds?

Funky Fly

11-19-2011, 03:32 PM

If it's the main event, it should be. They wont need that kinda time though. Get the feeling that unless Hendo catches him early, Shogun's gonna drop him with striking.

Mr. JL

11-19-2011, 03:42 PM

I can see this fight going a lot like the Fedor - Hendo fight with Shogun pushing forward and unleashing shots with Hendo eating them only to deliver a H Bomb.

Mr. JL

11-19-2011, 03:46 PM

But yeah totally agree that this won't go a full five rounds but I cringe everytime I see a 3 round main event fight.

Funky Fly

11-19-2011, 05:19 PM

I can see this fight going a lot like the Fedor - Hendo fight with Shogun pushing forward and unleashing shots with Hendo eating them only to deliver a H Bomb.

Shogun isn't going to just step into your offence though. He'll cut off your strengths and play his game Ask Machida. And it's not like he doesn't hit hard either. Ask Rampage (who Shogun beat back when Rampage still gave a shit about training for fights). And if it goes to the ground, I can't see Hendo being able to beat Shogun (who is actually better on the ground than standing, as terrifying as that is).

SuperSlim

11-19-2011, 10:06 PM

Is there a stream for this anywhere?

Mr. C

11-20-2011, 01:05 AM

If Rumble gets hurt sometime before 142, they must do Vitor vs. Wanderlei II in Rio. If not, they should still do it next year.

Crimson

11-20-2011, 01:46 AM

Great main event...Hendo is a beast at 41 still

11-20-2011, 04:15 AM

That fight was probably the greatest fight I've ever seen.

MoFo

11-20-2011, 10:58 AM

That fight was probably the greatest fight I've ever seen.

The whole card was the best theyve ever done, IMO...

We get it for free here in UK bt I still feel obliged to give them $50 for it

What warrior Shogun is after that second rd....and Hendo was out on his feet in the 4th lol spine tingly stuff

Gonna watch this again and again....brilliant

Innovator

11-20-2011, 10:59 AM

That was amazing.

Next Big Thing

11-20-2011, 11:04 AM

Sick fight! I thought it was a draw, but I have no complaints about Hendo winning either.

11-20-2011, 11:49 AM

Hendo went zombie mode in the fourth

Stickman

11-20-2011, 12:40 PM

In for vids...

Ol Dirty Dastard

11-20-2011, 03:08 PM

Ridiculous heart and skill by both guys. To have a fresher guy in the fifth mount you, and stay alive til the end of the round is just ridiculous. To be able to withstand being H-bombed like 5 times flush to the chin is also just ridiculous. It's what you want from any fight. It was a high level Griffin v Bonnar. Any "sloppiness" was because of the work rate and power they put forth.

Also, good to see my boy Kampmann come in with the victory, lol apparently the one bit of scoring for Story was actually an error on the judges part and Kampmann got the UD. It was obvious he won the fight so even with poor judging I thought it was strange that he only got the split. He's a top fighter at 170 and he got so retardedly robbed against Sanchez that it burns me to this day.

Good effort by Cung Le, I expected him to get blitzed way quicker. Nice to see some vintage Axe murderer at the end. Great fight.

Urijah and Bowles are both beasts. Urijah's just better. Great effort from both guys.

Well done Stephan Bonnar.

The Mask

11-20-2011, 05:53 PM

i thought hendo was playing possum in the fourth. like okay he got rocked but when he was stumbling back arms down and then fired off the quickest right i'd seen the entire fight, i dunno. then again it looked like he was playing possum the entire last 2 rounds.

SuperSlim

11-21-2011, 12:01 PM

This card was beyond unbelievable. This was the best card I've seen thus far this year... only being rivaled by UFC Brazil.

Mr. JL

11-21-2011, 11:11 PM

Finally got around to watching the PPV and HOLY SHIT Shogun - Hendo was AMAZING!

That is what you call a 5 Round War!

MoFo

11-21-2011, 11:25 PM

Cung Le was paid $350k......what the fuck

Funky Fly

11-22-2011, 03:06 AM

He's a movie star, remember?

He's a "name" even if he's not the best around by far.

The Mask

11-22-2011, 04:31 PM

still kind of crazy since rampage made 250k for his title shot apparently, plus FOTN bonus. especially since i don't think cung le has actually been in anything worth a shit.

Funky Fly

11-23-2011, 07:49 AM

They're probably stuck paying whatever they bought out his contract for.

Next Big Thing

11-23-2011, 09:40 AM

They didn't buy his contract out. They negotiated with him to come to the UFC. Definitely got the payday because he's a "movie star."

Ol Dirty Dastard

11-23-2011, 09:59 AM

I think he's like a legend in San Jose though, from what I've gathered. So maybe he had an effect on the live gate? :S

Kris P Lettus

11-24-2011, 06:07 PM

WAR Hendo

Shogun is a beast though taking all that punishment and still being able to control the 4th and 5th..

You could def tell that Le had ring rust, but he def did enough in the first round to get another fight in the UFC..

Next Big Thing

11-24-2011, 06:39 PM

Kris P Lettus

11-25-2011, 08:00 AM

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Kris P Lettus

11-25-2011, 08:03 AM

He's almost 40 though and I don't see anyone in the upper echelons of 185 who wouldn't beat him cleanly whether in the stand up or on the ground. I think Rich Franklin might be the only "big name" that he would have a chance of beating in an exciting fashion with his style.

He told me he wanted to retire over a year ago.. But so did Hendo..

I can see them giving him a fight with someone like Akyama or Leban or someone on a Fight Night card..