Dead or Alive 5 [Archive]

Drakul

09-14-2011, 01:10 PM

Kalyx triaD

09-14-2011, 01:21 PM

I like the new visuals. Hope the environmental enhancements don't slow things down.

Funky Fly

09-15-2011, 02:43 AM

Seems fucking cool. I'll always prefer the frantic counter battles of DOA 1 tho.

Drakul

03-05-2012, 02:06 PM

Kalyx triaD

03-05-2012, 02:40 PM

Motherfucker, wonder who else from VF will crossover. The fighting systems are similar enough for a full blown versus title.

Not digging the cinematic cuts during stage gimmick events, utterly unneeded.

Love the new graphics engine, none of that 'doll fighter' thing from before.

#BROKEN Hasney

03-05-2012, 02:47 PM

Awesome.

I tell you what would really make me mark though, some Fighting Vipers characters. Throw Candy in there fo sheezy.

DAMN iNATOR

03-05-2012, 02:59 PM

LOL, just picked up and played DOA4 for the first time on 360 like a couple weeks ago. But yeah, when I saw it was made in 2005, I figured they couldn't wait much longer for a sequel. Glad to see it's finally been announced and worked on a bit, looks good so far.

Drakul

03-16-2012, 01:00 PM

Kalyx triaD

03-16-2012, 01:36 PM

They can do without the camera cuts before the stage interaction but otherwise the game looks pretty wild.

Drakul

03-23-2012, 07:21 AM

Rumoured roster list:

Pai
Sarah
Akira
Mila
Rig
Bayman
Hitomi
Christie
Brad
Lisa
Eliot
Ayane
Lei Fang
Hayate
Kokoro
Bass
Leon
Helena
Gen Fu
Kasumi
Hayabusa
Jann Lee
Tina
Zack
Alpha-152

I'm not sure I know who everyone is on that list as I've only played DOA 1,2 & 4. So are any of these characters new or from other DOA games?

Kalyx triaD

03-23-2012, 11:10 AM

There's fucking three Virtua Fighters in there.

Mila and Rig are new.

Vietnamese Crippler

03-25-2012, 10:01 PM

Akira was confirmed awhile ago, but the other two VF people are interesting.

Drakul

05-25-2012, 04:05 AM

Drakul

05-25-2012, 04:11 AM

Since the departure of Tomonobu Itagaki back in 2008, Team Ninja has attempted to shake its reputation as nothing but a stylish, sex-crazed gore factory. It attempted to give Ninja Gaiden's Ryu Hayabusa a softer side, for one. Only two months ago, Team Ninja head Yosuke Hayashi said Dead or Alive 5 will rise beyond "sex and violence," instead pursing "a direction that contains emotional experiences that can move players."

Now, in an interview with Famitsu, Hayashi has now revealed that Dead or Alive 5's voluptuous vixens will feature costume-specific breast physics. Furthermore, each costume will have varying levels of transparency. It sounds like a contradiction to Hayashi's previous statements ... that is, of course, until you realize that "move" is a very ambiguous term.

I've also heard something about costumes getting wet from sweat and falling into rivers. They become more transparant as your outfit gets wetter.

Fignuts

05-25-2012, 04:43 AM

lol christ

Kalyx triaD

05-25-2012, 08:58 AM

Funky Fly

05-25-2012, 02:55 PM

Actually the new models and designs are way less sexualized than DOA4, breasts actually should move differently between outfits, and clothes getting wet during a fight is actually a cool effect for a reportedly grittier fighting game.

I don't see contradiction at all. But this is internetz.

Trying to move away from stylish and sex-crazed by talking about how costumes get transparent when wet and how boob physics change with costumes, yeah. No details on game engine changes, story direction or roster confirmations.

Kalyx triaD

05-25-2012, 07:54 PM

Engine looks unchanged from the demo vids I seen. That doesn't bother me too much. Story lol. I think there's a leaked roster around somewhere. Reveals somemore Virtua Fighter characters if its true.

Kalyx triaD

06-05-2012, 02:36 PM

Emperor Smeat

06-25-2012, 05:48 PM

Pre-order goodies and the stuff in the collector's edition were revealed recently by Tecmo.

Only Gamestop and Amazon will have pre-order extras.
* GameStop — “DOA Angels Pack” for Kasumi, Leifang, and Hitomi
* Amazon — “DOA Devils Pack” for Christie, Tina, and Ayane

Collector's edition will be about $79.99 and includes both pre-order swimsuit packs.
* Premium swimsuits for all playable female characters
* Art book
* CD soundtrack
* DOA5 cast poster
* High-quality embossed metal case
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/dead-or-alive-5-collectors-edition-includes-bikinis-pre-order-bonuses-detailed/

Kalyx triaD

06-27-2012, 12:53 AM

Meet Rig, who confirms the leaked list:

http://images.plurk.com/56c6b9110688e979492b4847d54c2ab2.jpg

Kalyx triaD

06-28-2012, 01:26 AM

Rig in action against Christie and Bass:

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Fignuts

06-28-2012, 01:48 PM

Oh, hey there Hwoarang.

Kalyx triaD

06-28-2012, 02:10 PM

Juri. Kim.

Kalyx triaD

07-19-2012, 12:43 PM

DAMN iNATOR

07-21-2012, 01:25 PM

"Tag Team Action", eh? :naughty:

Kalyx triaD

08-08-2012, 02:15 PM

Drakul

08-09-2012, 09:40 AM

Helena sounds like Michelle from 'Allo 'Allo.

Emperor Smeat

08-29-2012, 05:04 PM

A brand new character named Mila was supposedly leaked recently.

http://d1vr6n66ssr06c.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/zWtfs.jpg
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/dead-or-alive-5-leaked-photos-show-new-character-mila/

Kalyx triaD

08-29-2012, 05:47 PM

Boxer maybe?

Drakul

08-30-2012, 07:02 AM

The girl on the right (is that Mila?) looks like a female Heinz from Kensei. If she is German and/or a pitfighter, she'll be an obvious rip-off, in my opinion.
http://ks353422.kimsufi.com/databasepsx/images/screens/U/K/SLUS-00600/ss6.jpg

Kalyx triaD

08-30-2012, 07:22 AM

Fighting games do that. A lot.

Drakul

08-30-2012, 07:30 AM

I know. Akira and Ryu, for example look similar with their outfits. It's no big deal if Mila just looks a bit like Heinz. If she turns out to be a pit fighter, that's when I'd get suspicious and think someone at Team Ninja had been looking to failed games for "inspiration".

Incidently, Kensei is a pretty cool PS1 3D fighter. I prefered it to Tekken, myself. Worth giving it a spin if you come across it. It's not big budget so there are no endings and, in all honesty, almost all secret characters are just clones of other characters but it's still fun, I feel.
It has a lot of counters and reversals etc.

Kalyx triaD

08-30-2012, 07:57 AM

Never got to play that game.

Drakul

09-02-2012, 03:18 PM

Just preordered the Limited Edition. It's not out until the 28th of this month, here, so I could always cancel it. Hopefully I wont have to, though.

So, anyone else getting the game at launch?

I could have sworn there was some kind of character editor in the game but I can't find any mention of it.

Drakul

09-02-2012, 04:42 PM

It's not really an editor but you seem to be able to add accessories like glasses:
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ukCv1jQJUT0?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Kalyx triaD

09-02-2012, 06:01 PM

Won't be getting this at launch, I wouldn't pay full price for a DOA game.

Drakul

09-04-2012, 04:06 AM

I've enjoyed most of the DOA games I played. I had DOA 1,2 and 4. 1 was fun, 2 was fantastic and I had gotten really good at that. 4 was a let down for me, maybe because I picked it up years too late and had played better fighters that had been released since.

I'm hoping 5 will be as enjoyable as 2 was.

Drakul

09-04-2012, 04:08 AM

Not the best example of the game but, still.
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Kalyx triaD

09-04-2012, 12:11 PM

I played them all. Was really deep into part 3 and 4. DOA2 was my first. Love the tag mode with four players.

Drakul

09-04-2012, 12:22 PM

I only missed out on 3 because I never had an Xbox. I remember trying to get the multitap to work for the PS2 but I can't recall if I did. I don't think I did because I'd remember playing four players.
I do remember my friends being impressed that I could do Hayabusas ninja driver thing. I could knock them into them air, jump up to grab them and even add the spin on the final part of the move. Not sure what it is with me and spinning slam moves.

I was hoping some of the guys here would be getting DOA5 at launch or not long after so I could take part in the four player tag matches and, hopefully, those group/stable fights with one character after another.

Kalyx triaD

09-04-2012, 01:38 PM

I'll see to it a character in Versus Arts has a spinning piledriver thing as a nod to you.

Drakul

09-04-2012, 02:39 PM

Cool. Is that just an idea or is that something you and your group have actually started to work on? Like XNA style or something.

Fignuts

09-04-2012, 02:52 PM

My first was DOA 4. Enjoyed it, but the cpu was infuriating at times. Like it had rubberband logic, where after it started to get close to losing a round, it would just counter everything.

Enjoyed going through and unlocking all the characters and costumes though.

Drakul

09-04-2012, 03:04 PM

I think I got to the end boss and only beat her once or twice before moving on to another game.

If anyone doesn't know, DOA5 wont have any DLC characters. Given that the LE comes with swimsuit DLC and there are preorder bonuses of Bunnygirl and Devil DLC outfits, I think we'll get a ton of outfits as DLC. My bet says they'll include school girl, leather, "naughty santa" and other "sexy/fetish" styles on top of general skimpiness.

Kalyx triaD

09-04-2012, 03:59 PM

Cool. Is that just an idea or is that something you and your group have actually started to work on? Like XNA style or something.

For now it's a detailed system doc waiting for the day our indy game section gets to work. I'm rewriting the system page to add some new elements regarding the arts system, but the characters are locked in terms of name, story, and moveset theme. Durango is a retired pro-wrestler turned high school gym coach who brings in pro-wrestling themed weapons as hard-light chi attacks (glowing chair, glowing table, etc). A spinning drop move will likely go to him. May go as far as calling it the Dracula Drop.

Tengu in DOA2 is the closest a boss character has gotten me to openly crying.

Fignuts

09-04-2012, 04:05 PM

You don't play many SNK fighters, do you?

Drakul

09-04-2012, 04:10 PM

For now it's a detailed system doc waiting for the day our indy game section gets to work. I'm rewriting the system page to add some new elements regarding the arts system, but the characters are locked in terms of name, story, and moveset theme. Durango is a retired pro-wrestler turned high school gym coach who brings in pro-wrestling themed weapons as hard-light chi attacks (glowing chair, glowing table, etc). A spinning drop move will likely go to him. May go as far as calling it the Dracula Drop.

Sounds like a cool character but I'm not sure about the glowing chair etc. I'm getting images of Wrestlemania the arcade game when the Undertaker would pull tombstones out of thin air.
Are you recording speech for characters or using stock grunts etc?

Tengu in DOA2 is the closest a boss character has gotten me to openly crying.

I think this says a lot for the differences in our playstyle. Tengu was a breeze for me. The most frustrating fighting game boss for me was Seth all the way back when I first got SFIV and tried to beat arcade as Dan. I don't get upset, I just get angry. Was almost popping a vain holding back the frustration. I was pretty awful at the game when I first got it.

Kalyx triaD

09-04-2012, 05:29 PM

Sounds like a cool character but I'm not sure about the glowing chair etc. I'm getting images of Wrestlemania the arcade game when the Undertaker would pull tombstones out of thin air.
Are you recording speech for characters or using stock grunts etc?

Having them be chi based actually makes a sort of wacky sense rather than actual chairs and stuff coming out. Then again he's the 'comedic one' so that can work in a way.

I would like vocals but perhaps in a sequel. We are bottom tier on budget!

I think this says a lot for the differences in our playstyle. Tengu was a breeze for me. The most frustrating fighting game boss for me was Seth all the way back when I first got SFIV and tried to beat arcade as Dan. I don't get upset, I just get angry. Was almost popping a vain holding back the frustration. I was pretty awful at the game when I first got it.

Seth was bitch, yes!

I never played SNK arcade modes on anything but easy, unless I need to unlock a character that needs arcade beaten on a higher setting. I don't remember being so frustrated, though.

Fignuts

09-05-2012, 01:15 AM

Having them be chi based actually makes a sort of wacky sense rather than actual chairs and stuff coming out. Then again he's the 'comedic one' so that can work in a way.

I would like vocals but perhaps in a sequel. We are bottom tier on budget!

Seth was bitch, yes!

I never played SNK arcade modes on anything but easy, unless I need to unlock a character that needs arcade beaten on a higher setting. I don't remember being so frustrated, though.

Ever fight Igniz in KOF 01'?

Kalyx triaD

09-05-2012, 02:23 AM

Don't think so. Or remember.

Fignuts

09-05-2012, 04:51 AM

Don't.

Fignuts

09-05-2012, 04:52 AM

EVER

Kalyx triaD

09-05-2012, 04:56 AM

Gotta YouTube that action.

Fignuts

09-05-2012, 08:14 AM

Fignuts

09-05-2012, 08:15 AM

and so on

Kalyx triaD

09-05-2012, 02:31 PM

He's like a MUGEN character in an actual game.

Kalyx triaD

09-11-2012, 02:48 PM

Kalyx triaD

09-12-2012, 03:32 PM

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2012/09/12_doa5paichan01.jpg

VF's Pai joins the game, confirming the leaked roster list some dick revealed months ago. She will be the last guest fighter. After Sarah, Pai was my second main in the VF series, cementing even further how DOA5 completely replaces VF5 for me.

Drakul

09-12-2012, 03:59 PM

Milas moves actually do look a lot like Hienz's moves. She's Hienz with boobs, not that she's a bad character because of it.

I never got into VF so the guest characters don't mean as much to me as it did when Tekken popped up in SF or Marvel fighting Capcom.

Kalyx triaD

09-12-2012, 04:57 PM

I was deep into VF2 and then VF4 (completely missed VF3). It's okay... I just never connected with the overall system and the kind of gameplay it rewards (despite pretty good moveset concepts). I always likened DOA as 'VF but fun' due to their very similar play style, and with VF guest characters in DOA5 I get a pretty good deal here. I'll be on DOA5 eventually, always liked the tag mode.

I really like Mila and Rig, and the cutscenes are shockingly impressive for their first go at English VAs. DOA is one of those especially Japanese series so I didn't expect that.

Drakul

12-26-2012, 05:48 AM

Anyon got DOA5? I got it for Christmas. I'm liking it so far. It reminds me of DOA2, which was my favourite. DOA4 felt too different for some reason but 5, I was able to pick up and play right away as if I hadn't stopped playing 2.

Drakul

12-26-2012, 05:49 AM

Loading times are weird, though. Moving from the main menu to the control select screen takes something like 10 seconds.

Also, taunting is disabled by default and you need to use custom controls to access it.

Kalyx triaD

12-26-2012, 06:33 AM

I'd like to play DOA5. Haven't played DOA for years, but I wouldn't get it full price. Love the 4ply tag mode, that makes the game for me.

Drakul

12-26-2012, 07:22 AM

I'm not sure what the game cost because it was a gift from my brother. I intended to buy the LE on release before I realised I couldn't afford it so I'd say full price is fair enough.

I timed how long it takes the gamne to load. I pressed A to return to the main menu. It took it 27 seconds to load up the main menu. Seems a bit much.

Kalyx triaD

12-26-2012, 07:37 AM

That's strange. I tend to install fighting games now since I rather not wait any longer than I have to between matches.

Drakul

12-26-2012, 08:23 AM

That IS with it installed.:|

Kalyx triaD

12-26-2012, 08:46 AM

Oh boy.

Drakul

12-27-2012, 11:32 AM

I feel I should update this loading thing. Getting from the main menu to character select takes a while to load and then first fight (in Arcade for example) takes some time to load but then the rest of the fights load up almost right away. Just 2 seconds to save, right after the victory pose and onto the next fight. No loading screen or blackness.

Oddly, you can't jump straight back to the main menu afterwards. If you finish Arcade or Survival etc, it shows you the scoreboard and tells you to press A to go to the menu. I press A, nothing. I press A again, nothing. I bash A repeatedly, still nothing. I wait about 20 seconds and then press A and it goes to the menu. No idea why.

I'm liking the game alot. The environmental hazards etc are cool and some are pretty far fetched. I had family over last night and managed to get my aunt to have a match with me. She seemed a bit lost with all the explosions etc but had a good time. She was on of the recieving end of one of the more far fetched environmental hazards I've seen so far. Fighting in a combat zone, I knocked her into a bunch of sandbags and a giant tanks randomly burst through the wall, smashing into her character.

Never knew DOA5 had "finishers" or "Power Blows" as they call them. When your health is at 50% or lower, you can charge up a certain move that unleashes a combo or something. Apparantly, these allow you to aim where to send your opponent into environmental hazards (it launches them straight across the stage) but I've not seen any evidence of how to do that.

Also played a few rounds with my 70 year old grandmother. Is it a good thing or a bad thing when a 70 year old can pull off 6 hit combos the first time she picks up the controller?

Just for the record, I wasn't just playing versus the elderly. Fought my brother etc a few times too.

Edit: Story mode isn't kidding when it says "Story" 5 minutes of cutscene, fight, 3 minutes of cutscenes, fight etc. Not complaining because the cutscenes are entertaining and well done.

Kalyx triaD

12-27-2012, 01:41 PM

The super move things are new to the series. It's been added to sell the idea of it being 'Fighting Entertainment'.

Many DOA combos are pretty easy, the game's system is streamlined in general. Gets you to the metagame faster.

I was surprised to see the story be the quality it is.

Drakul

12-27-2012, 02:01 PM

I noticed "Fighting Entertainment" popping up on the box and in the stage select. I thought, with it being the name of the wrestling arena, it was some kind of WWE Sports Entertainment thing.

Bass has the Rock Bottom as a move. They've just renamed it Bass Bottom.

Kalyx triaD

12-27-2012, 02:06 PM

Drakul

12-27-2012, 03:53 PM

Bass Bottom pretty much looks exactly like this one and can be alternated from left handed to right, depending on which side of you is closer to the opponent:
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Bass also does the Scott Steiner style Muscle Pump and Kiss. The sort of mechanical raising of one arm and then kissing his bicep. Also, Bass has a taunt that does actual damage (I figured out how to taunt btw, some characters have multiple) .

I've thought a few stages looked like they were referencing something else but that may just be me. Hot Zone (a middle east war zone) looks like a modern FPS stage. Another stage reminds me so much of Big Shell from MGS2. The music and even the stage itself, right down to the seagulls everywhere.
As I said, I thought the "Fighting Entertainment" stage was some kind of Japanese redesign of WWE/TNA.

I'm not sure if it was in DOA3 or 4 but there are running grabs now. Tina does a Shining Wizard, for example.

Also, some character outfits change the characters name. For example, Bass has an outfit that has him as a wrestling persona. Tights, vest, mask and cape and he's renamed "Mr. Strong".

Liking some of the things in the stages. Just fighting on top of a hotel and throw my opponent into the neon sign. The sign circuits and falls forward. Right on to the elevated train tracks. A second lader and entire train hit the sign, derailed and flew passed us, ploughing into the wall right next to us.

Drakul

12-27-2012, 04:00 PM

That's actually fucking awesome.

I like the idea of 'Fighting Entertainment', it shows that a developer is comfortable with a less hardcore fighting system and just celebrating themselves. I consider Midway's Injustice pretty much that. One could make an argument that the DBZ and Naruto were pretty much this before the term was coined.

I think it's a safe bet that it's not trying to be hardcore. It's a lot of fun with the only issue being the loading. The game itself is playable on a simple level but it could just as easily be very fast and technical if the players were skilled enough.
I don't think many fighters can do that. They seem to be one or the other. Capcom have tried to make it work for both with this whole easy input thing but that doesn't quite work.

I like the way the game is light hearted but not in a "joke" kind of way, if that makes sense.

Kalyx triaD

12-27-2012, 11:05 PM

I get it. I enjoy the DOA series, I just can't be arsed to buy it full price. Once it's here there will lots of tag matches and shit talking. I like a game where more people can play.

Drakul

12-28-2012, 02:27 AM

The game doesn't have that Team Gauntlet mode that was in DOA2. Hoping that's DLC.

Kalyx triaD

12-28-2012, 02:33 AM

Unlikely, that was a specific mode and we are dealing with a slightly different dev team here.

Drakul

12-28-2012, 03:00 AM

I don't see why not. It's exactly the same as survival but two players. It would hardly break budget or push the programmers skills to the limit.

Kalyx triaD

12-28-2012, 03:20 AM

Sometimes it isn't budget or time, just what they feel should be in the feature set. Something I just came to accept overall.

Drakul

12-31-2012, 02:56 AM

Finished the story mode. It was pretty cool, actually. I was surprised by how even the AI was. With Capcom doing what they did with guys like Seth in Arcade mode and with the way the boss in DOA4 behaved, I was expecting there to be a point that it was more frustrating than fun but it never happened.

Also, found out Bass has another WWE move and they didn't even bother to rename it. He has a throw combo called F5 and it actually is the F5.

Blacked it out incase anyone would rather play as or against him on their own and discover it. You never know.