Someone explain the NWA, Jim Crockett Promotions, WCW, GCW, WWW & MSW

[Mr. JL]

So, I am looking up the National Wrestling Alliance along with Jim Crockett Promotions and am attempting to differentiate all the wrestling promotions between the two entities.

From what I can tell Jim Crockett Promotions became affiliated with the National Wrestling Alliance in 1952. So the NWA basically supplied the MAJOR stars to Jim Crockett Promotions from there on forward. But then Jim Crockett Promotions later on the the 70's and 80's opened up Georgia Championship Wrestling, Mid-South Wrestling, Mid-Atlantic Wrestling, Wide World Wrestling (later changed to World Wide Wrestling) and then World Championship Wrestling.

I guess they should be more accurately be described as Territory's but were these companies all under Jim Crockett Promotions banner? Like, would Georgian Championship Wrestling be Jim Crockett Promotion's WWE Raw brand and Mid-Atlantic Wrestling being Jim Crockett Promotion's WWE SmackDown! brand kind of deal?

Or do I have this all wrong and these were all seperate wrestling organizations just under the NWA umbrella, rolled together and clutterfucked?

Just need some clarification, or is the whole situation so confusing that no one can really 100% clarify.

[The MAC]

watch rise and fall of wcw on youtube. its explained there.

[Hanso Amore]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Wrestling_Alliance

[Mr. JL]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Wrestling_Alliance

See I have read that but then I'll read something else that contradicts stuff in this article.

[Mr. JL]

watch rise and fall of wcw on youtube. its explained there.

Good idea, thanks.

[Hanso Amore]

JCP was the company behind NWA-Mid Atlantic. They were a Territory in the NWA and swapped Talent much like all of the territories. They were by far the most successful and were able to sign the best stars. Typically the NWA champion, who would tour all of the territories, happened to be from JCP as they were top dog.

Eventually they bought out some other territories, crumlbed, and then sold to Ted Turner, who broke from the NWA and made WCW.

Im not sure what you dont understand. Feel free to clarify

[Hanso Amore]

Mid South, GCW, and the others you listed were not owned by JCP.

[Hanso Amore]

Mid South - Bill Watts

Georgia CHampionship Wrestling was Jim Barnett.

Eventually as some of these other territories folded and shit alot of their peeps ended up in Mid Atlantic.

You are also mistaking some of their show names, like World Wide Wrestling as a Brand or Territory when it was just the name of a syndicated show featuring Mid Atlantic Stars.

[dhellova guy]

Bill Watts changed Mid South to UWF, and then sold the company to JCP.

Georgia Championship Wrestling was bought out by WWF, who basically just wanted the time slot on TBS to show reruns of matches. They eventually sold the slot to JCP, who moved his opperations to Atlanta.

JCP's show on TBS was called "World Championship Wrestling". When Turner bought JCP, he changed the company name to World Championship Wrestling.

All of these organizations were territories in the NWA until 1993, when Turner and WCW left the NWA.

Hope this helps.

[Mr. JL]

Cool thanks.

I was just having problems because I was reading from multiple sites and each one of them would say something contradictatory to the other, so I was not sure which to trust.

But after watching the Rise and Fall of WCW and your guys' information has helped me filter out the erroneous information from the legitimate information.

[Rammsteinmad]

You do realise when DLVH or Seth82 see this thread, the essay they post will be so huge the internet will break.

[Mr. JL]

I have no idea who those two are.

[Vastardikai]

Something to mention to JL, many of the major wrestling promotions we know of today (excepting MAYBE the AWA) were a part of the NWA at one point. WWF was the New York affiliate under Vince McMahon Sr. ECW was part until the part that was publicized when Shane Douglas slammed down the belt. WCW and TNA are both kind of duh at this point.

[Vastardikai]

Side note: When Jim Crockett bought out the UWF (Mid-South), the promotion shit on most of the talent so badly that only two UWF-ers survived it and ended up doing anything of note in JCP/WCW : Jim Ross and Sting.

Of course, Sting was greener than grass when the purchase took place, but caught on with the fans. And a 45 minute match against Flair made him a legit draw. Ross was considered a 3rd tier announcer behind Tony Schiavone and Gordon Solie at the time (I shit you not, though anyone being ranked below Solie makes sense, though it made no sense why he was behind Tony EVER). Flair was the one who was behind him. So those of you who fawn over the epic calls JR has made over the years, thank Flair.

[DLVH84]

There were a couple UWF stars, including Sting, that I thought did very well for WCW all those years...

Brad Armstrong - The last holder of the original WCW World Light Heavyweight Championship...Always gave consistent matches, win or lose...Always willing to put over newer talent with no problem whatsoever...Released before the WWF buyout in 2001, while recovering from a knee injury caused by a backstage accident in 2000.

The Fantastics - 2-time NWA United States Tag Team Champions...Had amazing feuds with The Midnight Express, The Sheepherders, and The Varisty Club...Were forced to leave in 1989 by Kevin Sullivan.

[Vastardikai]

I forgot that Candyman/Badstreet/Arachniman/Fantasia was a UWF guy.

Fantastics were a bit before my time.

[DLVH84]

I forgot that Candyman/Badstreet/Arachniman/Fantasia was a UWF guy.

Fantastics were a bit before my time.

Yes, at the time Crockett bought UWF from Watts in 1987, he was one-half of the UWF World Tag Team Champions with Tim Horner as The Lightning Express.

[Hanso Amore]

Wasnt Terry Taylor with the UWF at that time?

[Hanso Amore]

And Dr Death?

[DLVH84]

Terry Taylor left after losing the UWF TV title to Nikita Koloff, and Dr. Death became inactive in NWA/WCW in 1989, due to his commitments with AJPW, in which he finally left after Starrcade '92.

[Mr. JL]

Wasn't Benoit in the UWF? Or was he from WCW and sent to go over the UWF guys? I recall seeing more than a couple of his matches being performed in a UWF ring with apron/mats that said UWF. And I am pretty sure he and Scorpio had a memorable match in UWF as well.

Also, I've read that the AWA territory was orgininally a NWA territory before they broke free and started the AWA.

[DLVH84]

No, Benoit and Scorpio was never part of the UWF. I think it was NWA Eastern Championship Wrestling you're referring to, before they became Extreme.

[Vastardikai]

Benoit was definitely a New Japan guy at the time.

Scorpio, I have no idea.

[DLVH84]

Benoit was definitely a New Japan guy at the time.

Scorpio, I have no idea.

Scorpio was splitting his time between ECW in America, NJPW in Japan, and CWA in Europe.