Official Bound for Glory 2011 Thread - Biggest TNA PPV of the year, no thread a half hour prior

[Xero]

Sup?

Chat: http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=109788

[VSG]

Seriously thought the last part of the title was spanish.

[VSG]

no thread hablo por favor :'(

[The Show Off]

Mexican America vs. Ink, Inc already.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

"Expect a night of run-ins"

[owenbrown]

So is Sting gonna lay down for Hogan to hand him the TNA World title tonight?

[Droford]

I really dont feel like searching for a stream for this..ugh

[FearedSanctity]

If only there was some sort of group that shared streams...

[Droford]

full metal mayhem sounds like RVD vs Jerry Lynn in a Rock Band contest or something

[Droford]

If RVD's hairline recedes anymore he might as well go bald

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

full metal mayhem sounds like RVD vs Jerry Lynn in a Rock Band contest or something

:lol:

BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS

it's kind of like a hardcore match actually

[Mr. JL]

The match was like 10 minutes long with a fair amount of miscues and sloppyness. I was hoping for more.

[Mr. JL]

This 3 way makes TNA's ring look pathetic-ly tiny.

[Droford]

lol @ the dead end sign..not a plant at all..nope..

[Droford]

also, I think Anderson with his hair dyed sort of looks like JBL

[Mr. JL]

also, I think Anderson with his hair dyed sort of looks like JBL

Maybe its just my choppy stream but I thought he looks more like Test.

[Droford]

anderson missed the kenton..haha

[Mr. JL]

anderson missed the kenton..haha

He looks like a tard everytime I see him do that move.

[Droford]

the Ref is Bischoff's son? I wonder how Eugene feels about this

[blak23]

not a lot of activity here

[Mr. JL]

Maybe that is what Bischoff meant when he said.. this could get ugly

[Droford]

Velvet Sky is Curry Girl

[Mr. JL]

Velvet's entrance is the only thing that saved this match.

[blak23]

that seemed a random win

[Mr. JL]

and my stream is done so I am too.

[Nicky Fives]

I'm on my sixth stream tonight..... not cool..... a pretty sub-par card from what I've managed to see..... AJ /Daniels can save it though.....

[Mr. JL]

found another.. im back

funny moment in styles daniels i quit match

[Mr. JL]

Never thot i'd see a wrech and a screw driver in this match.

[Droford]

literal philadelphia screwjob

[Nicky Fives]

7th stream.....

[blak23]

match isnt impressing me

[Mr. JL]

literal philadelphia screwjob

:lol:

[Mr. JL]

It's like they are trying NOT to wrestle in this match.

[VSG]

Anything noteworthy so far?

[Nicky Fives]

The ring seems much smaller......

[Mr. JL]

Daniels saying he's going to murder Styles. Someone call 911

[Nicky Fives]

TNA's stock will plummet tomorrow morning a la Vince blowing himself up.....:shifty:

[Droford]

worst i quit match ever

[Mr. JL]

LOL... AJ grabs a screwdriver and Daniels says he quits and runs to the back. Pathetic booking

[blak23]

are you fucking serious

[Nicky Fives]

I thought Vince Russo wasn't head booker anymore?

[blak23]

all that hype for this?

[blak23]

that saved it a bit

[Nicky Fives]

Angels Wings should have been off the stage, not just on it..... I am very unimpressed.....Philly crowd won't take much more of this shit.....

[Mr. JL]

Oh YAY Jarrett music. Just what this pay per view needs.. Jeff Jarrett

[Nicky Fives]

Is the crowd gonna pop for Jeff Hardy or not?

[Mr. JL]

Is the crowd gonna pop for Jeff Hardy or not?

If he is going to beat up Jarrett then he might get a POP

[Nicky Fives]

Hardy doesn't even deserve to be on the show.....

[Mr. JL]

Are they actually playing up his jail stint? His new shirt has his mug shot

[blak23]

match if the night

[Nicky Fives]

the crowd doesn;t really seem to care all that much.....

[blak23]

where is immortal?

[Nicky Fives]

ROFL...... D-LO! D-LO! D-LO!

[Mr. JL]

LOL D'Lo Brown gets the POP of the night so far from the Philly crowd

[blak23]

D'lo brown get the pop of the night

[blak23]

LOL D'Lo Brown gets the POP of the night so far from the Philly crowd

beat me to it

[Droford]

it says something that durring the hardy/jarrett confrontation, the crowd was chanting for D-Lo Brown

[glanville6]

God help me...can someone rep me a link? Thank you

[Nicky Fives]

I'm surprised Hogan is in the main event.....

[Droford]

time for Hogan/Sting! yeah

[blak23]

the hype videos are awesome tho

[Droford]

predicting Dixie Carter heel turn on Sting and then she blows Hogan in the middle of the ring after for saving her company or some mess

[Mr. JL]

At least it is not the main event. I recall Hogan doing an interview where he said he would not be taking a bumb in his fight... so this could be interesting for the wrong reasons

[Nicky Fives]

The crowd will either love this "match," or shit all over it..... there will be no middle ground.....

[blak23]

why not just fire sting

[Mr. JL]

Taz and Tenay hyping the Hogan/Sting match as the biggest in TNA's history. Thats a good way to hype Angle vs Roode for the TNA World Title

[blak23]

The crowd will either love this "match," or shit all over it..... there will be no middle ground.....

let the shit fly

[blak23]

why is he playing to the crowd if he is the heel

[Nicky Fives]

lol at Dixie getting hit in the face with the sign.....

[blak23]

sting reminds me of punk

[VSG]

Such a shitty stream :'(

[blak23]

what the fuck

[Nicky Fives]

The Atlas Security guy with the mullet behind Dixie wiped out hardcore on James Storm's spilled beer at ringside at the house show I went to last weekend.....

[VSG]

Thanks, fellas!

[Mr. JL]

Such a shitty stream :'(

check yo reppppppp

[Nicky Fives]

I'm sensing a surprise run-in on behalf of The Stinger..... no idea who it could be.....

[blak23]

sting busted open

[Mr. JL]

HOGAN bumped

[Mr. JL]

thats two bumps now

[Nicky Fives]

HOGAN bumped

[Mr. JL]

three

[glanville6]

The young guy gets the W

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Wow... That was brutal. Although my favorite part was Hogan turning for the scorpion death lock before Sting.

[Nicky Fives]

looks like Abyss is making the save.....

[Nicky Fives]

WTF?

[Mr. JL]

HOGAN FACE TURN NOW?? WHAT?????

[blak23]

or not

[Droford]

personal foul..Overuse of the heel/face turn...15 yard penalty, repeat 3rd down!

[Nicky Fives]

only in TNA......

[What Would Kevin Do?]

What... the... fuck? Granted, I haven't been paying too much attention to this feud, but I'm pretty sure even if I had been, this would make no fucking sense.

What the fuck is this?

[blak23]

this makes no sense

[Nicky Fives]

at least the crowd likes it.....

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Not only does it make no sense, it's fucking insane. Now they're posing together? HuH? Nothing about this makes a goddamn ounce of sense.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

at least the crowd likes it.....

What the hell does that say about them?

[Mr. JL]

Wow, that made NO SENSE.

Angle versus Roode

Lets hope for something positive out of this PPV

[blak23]

What the hell does that say about them?

lmao

[Nicky Fives]

What the hell does that say about them?

not much..... it's better to get a reaction for something the writers planned then one where an Agent comes out to break up a brawl.....

[Nicky Fives]

apparently, Roode is a Canadian douche.....

[Mr. JL]

Not only does it make no sense, it's fucking insane. Now they're posing together? HuH? Nothing about this makes a goddamn ounce of sense.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

My brain hurts. I'm going to bed.

[DInsaneOne]

LOL at hogan and sting ripping off star wars. sting trying to do his best luke skywalker impression and hogan doing a darth vader and showing there is some good in him still.

not bad, it maybe would have made more sense if sting did some promos telling hulk there was still some good in him? havent watched impact recently so not sure if that was done or not.

[Nicky Fives]

They really are giving Roode all of Chris Benoit's moves, aren't they?

[Mr. JL]

Roode with a Buff Bagwell Blockbuster

[Mr. JL]

Roode with Chris Benoit's Crippler Crossface

[Nicky Fives]

I like Roode as much as the next guy, but he will never touch the chemistry with Angle that Benoit had.....

[blak23]

good match so far

[Mr. JL]

Roode with Mr. Perfect's Perfect Plex

[Mr. JL]

Roode with Austin's Stone Cold STunner!!

[Steveviscious89]

Roode with Mr. Perfect's Perfect Plex

Please tell me you are kidding about this and are not really giving him crap for using those moves....

[Xero]

So is Roode just using every finisher ever in this match? #notwatching

[Nicky Fives]

10 minutes for a finish MAX

[blak23]

meh

[Droford]

lol...REALLY? REALLY? REALLY?

[Steveviscious89]

So is Roode just using every finisher ever in this match? #notwatching

No...I think he's just trying to create a match that isn't full of worthless punches and kicks that don't look real and rest holds.

[Mr. JL]

WOW.. Roode's arm under the rope and ref counts three and thats TNA's biggest ppv of the year folks!

[Nicky Fives]

shenanigans!

[Steveviscious89]

The match should restart...

[Mr. JL]

Please tell me you are kidding about this and are not really giving him crap for using those moves....

Don't worry, I'm just kidding around.

[St. Jimmy]

AHAHAHAHAH That ending was priceless.

[Steveviscious89]

Don't worry, I'm just kidding around.

Understood....just checkin..

[Mr. JL]

But yikes.

TNA needs to go out of business.

That SUCKED!

[DInsaneOne]

wow, utter crap, was angle legit injured? cuz i saw the ref throw up the X sign after he pinned roode?

perhaps they called an audible to finish match early?

[Droford]

Roode gets a rematch at whatever the next ppv is.

but that was still really lame

[St. Jimmy]

YANKEES WIN.

[Steveviscious89]

I haven't been watching, but I seem to get the idea that they don't protect the integrity of their PPV's.

[Mr. JL]

Roode gets a rematch at whatever the next ppv is.

but that was still really lame

Who in their right mind would buy another TNA pay per view after that atrocity?:|

[St. Jimmy]

lolololololololololololol i love TNA.

[owenbrown]

can we ban TNA from ever being talked about on TPWW ever again? or make me an admin to ban TNA from TPWW

[Blakeamus]

With Angle injured getting in to the match, they should of put the strap on Roode...

[owenbrown]

Who in their right mind would buy another TNA pay per view after that atrocity?:|

who in their right fucking mind buys TNA pay per views anyway?

[Steveviscious89]

With Angle injured getting in to the match, they should of put the strap on Roode...

Kind of like they never should have put the strap on Jeff Hardy?....management is not farsighted enough for that unfortunately.

[DInsaneOne]

I think in the AJ/Daniels match and the Hogan/Sting match they tried to go for more psychological effect with the fans i.e. screwdriver in turnbuckle, and sting begging for hogan to save him.

Good Idea but to me it didnt play out very well, crowd reaction wasnt what it was supposed to be, IMO

[St. Jimmy]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23500000/What-the-fuck-random-23594698-400-344.gif

MFW TNA BOOKING.

[DInsaneOne]

With Angle injured getting in to the match, they should of put the strap on Roode...

which would be the obvious thing to do. From the look of Bobby's face maybe the match was not supposed to end this way? after ref put up X sign, he went to bobby and spoke to him.

[Droford]

Who in their right mind would buy another TNA pay per view after that atrocity?:|

no one buys them to start with

[Mr. JL]

who in their right fucking mind buys TNA pay per views anyway?

True

[Blakeamus]

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[CSL]

ahahaha, just watching the ending from the Hogan/Sting match, pretty hilarious when Hogan started building to the turn in the corner while Sting was getting twatted and the crowd were eating it up, you lot take this stuff far too seriously. Daft booking or not (dunno, haven't really been following the storyline) Hogan still controls a crowd like nobody else, one animated look at the crowd at the right time gets 10 times the reaction an AJ Styles match gets

[Mr. JL]

Honestly, I think they were just looking for SOMETHING to cheer and be happy for so their night was not a complete waste. "This is retarded, but we'll take it" kind of deal.

[St. Jimmy]

ahahaha, just watching the ending from the Hogan/Sting match, pretty hilarious when Hogan started building to the turn in the corner while Sting was getting twatted and the crowd were eating it up, you lot take this stuff far too seriously. Daft booking or not (dunno, haven't really been following the storyline) Hogan still controls a crowd like nobody else, one animated look at the crowd at the right time gets 10 times the reaction an AJ Styles match gets

No one was talking about the Hogan/Sting match. Roode/Angle was proper fucked.

[FourFifty]

Read the results after drinking- it makes more sense.

[CSL]

No one was talking about the Hogan/Sting match. Roode/Angle was proper fucked.

I take it you mean nobody outside of pages 2 and 3?

[FourFifty]

I could have seen BFG, but I watched Cheers instead.

[BigCrippyZ]

I could have watched BFG too, but Comcast suggested that watching video of my father fucking my mother would be more entertaining, make more sense and have a better finish, so I did that instead. Looks like I made the right decision.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm totally cool with Kurt Angle retaining the TNA World Title if it means that he defends it against AJ Styles or Austin Aries. Give me Aries vs. Angle with both titles on the line at Turning Point, and I might actually be interested.

[Waylander]

You know, when Russo was fired as head booker I seriously considered watching TNA again. I assumed that gone would be the pointless swerves, gone would be the stupid match finishes. But nope, judging by this PPV they're as prominent as ever. I don't think I'll ever watch anything from this company again, because the problem isn't one man, they seem to have a full team of 'Russos'.

[taker707]

The ppv was just alright. I truly thought and hoped Bobby would win . We all knew sting would win. The hogan turn was an ok suprise . Loved Lynn/RVD Styles/Daniels good match horrible ending. It was kinda neat watching it in a theater . First PPV I have payed for in I dont know how many years . It was worth the 15 bucks and free tshirt to me

[KIRA]

Dear TNA,
To be honest every thing outside of the main two matches was pretty fun to watch especially the first two matches it slowly spiraled from there but the nose dive came during the later matches. Your company hasnt figured out that Their biggest PPV of the year is supposed to end Feuds not have more run ins and swerves that make it just end up looking like a glorified episode of their weekly shows.


PS Daniels acting sucks I'm not expecting an Oscar prefomance from wrestlers
but Ive seen Middle school productions with more convincing villain motive rants.

Love, KIRA

[Rammsteinmad]

To the people who can't make sense of the Hogan/Sting ending: it makes perfect sense!!!

There is no way in hell Hogan is going to job to someone and leave looking weak, so what does he do? Screw storylines and logic, he turns on his own stable and beats the crap out of them all! Yes, a broken, crippled 60-year-old who has just had a match, got the upper hand on five men, some in their primes.

And so instead of being about Sting FINALLY getting a win and Dixie getting her company back, it's still about Hogan.

13 years later, and Sting still hasn't gotten his legit 'moment' over Hogan. :foc:

[Rammsteinmad]

Other than that, the PPV was pretty crap. It started off well, with Aries and Kendrick having a nice match. Should have ended with that Sliced Bread off the turnbuckle which Aries sold beautifully, but whatever, still a good match.

After that things just got kinda boring. None of the matches were really able to maintain my interest for more than a few minutes. The RVD/Lynn match was okay, but was full of botches, and the Styles/Daniels match, which SHOULD have been great, ended up sucking.

Same for the main event, I was pretty pumped for that match, but as the match got underway I just kinda lost interest.

However, on a positive note, TNA 'on camera' looked fantastic tonight. I've said this before about the company, but I love their production right now. The neon lights, and flying camera angles, plus the way all the audience fill up one side really makes the company look like the #2 company that it is. Of course, there is the slight hiccup or two (especially during Kendricks entrance) when they show the empty side of the arena, and it is EMPTY. Still, it comes off great on camera.

[loopydate]

Who in their right mind would buy another TNA pay per view after that atrocity?:|

Could have said the same thing after Victory Road. TNA has a unique talent for punishing loyal fans for spending their money. WWE does it too, don't get me wrong, but there's usually SOMETHING coming out of their PPVs that make you want to watch the next TV show.

[St. Jimmy]

Hogan/Sting was fine. That was the absolute BEST anyone involved could do. That match was good. Angle/Roode was a complete clusterfuck of immense measure. TNA took another pretty okay PPV, and pet the pooch all night only at the last minute to fuck it in the ass as hard as possible.

[Blakeamus]

To the people who can't make sense of the Hogan/Sting ending: it makes perfect sense!!!

There is no way in hell Hogan is going to job to someone and leave looking weak, so what does he do? Screw storylines and logic, he turns on his own stable and beats the crap out of them all! Yes, a broken, crippled 60-year-old who has just had a match, got the upper hand on five men, some in their primes.

And so instead of being about Sting FINALLY getting a win and Dixie getting her company back, it's still about Hogan.

13 years later, and Sting still hasn't gotten his legit 'moment' over Hogan. :foc:

Yeah, the crowd seemed to be booing Sting right when Hogan gave him the shoulder tackle and hulked up in the beginning on their match. Sting was supposed to be the "hero" right? Crowd booed him through out. I thought the crowds in Philly were smarted than that? And another thing, I actually believe Hogan didn't want Roode to win because having Roode win the title would of got the crowd popping as much as Hogan's "turn" on Immortal and steal his thunder, brother!

[CSL]

smarter than what? cheering for the biggest name in professional wrestling history?

[Blakeamus]

Hogan/Sting was fine. That was the absolute BEST anyone involved could do. That match was good. Angle/Roode was a complete clusterfuck of immense measure. TNA took another pretty okay PPV, and pet the pooch all night only at the last minute to fuck it in the ass as hard as possible.

I think Angle/Roode was pretty decent until the finish...loved how he would get Angle back to the crossfaces.

[Blakeamus]

smarter than what? popping for the biggest name in wrestling history?

I know his status in this business, but why boo Sting?

[CSL]

why boo The Rock mane? why boo anybody that goes against Hogan? It's because it's Hogan, nobody except a few tarts on the internet actually want to boo him nowadays

[Blakeamus]

Yeah I see what you mean. Hogan BURIES wrestlers crowd cheers.

[bigslimjj]

why boo The Rock mane? why boo anybody that goes against Hogan? It's because it's Hogan, nobody except a few tarts on the internet actually want to boo him nowadaysHe's an old washed up fuck that ONLY cares about getting himself over. Fuck Hulk Hogan. After the comments he made about Styles no showing the fan interaction due to a family death,and then not giving roode the belt shows what type of man he is(Not much of one)and how out of touch he really is with what wrestling fans want. Anyone that still supports him is a few grapes shy of a fruit salad.

[Blakeamus]

But for what Sting has done in his career, you would think it's ridiculous for them to boo the man.

[CSL]

He's an old washed up fuck that ONLY cares about getting himself over. Fuck Hulk Hogan. After the comments he made about Styles no showing the fan interaction due to a family death,and then not giving roode the belt shows what type of man he is(Not much of one)and how out of touch he really is with what wrestling fans want. Anyone that still supports him is a few grapes shy of a fruit salad.

aforementioned tart on the internet

and Roode not getting the belt was obviously down to Hogan

[CSL]

lol after a quick Google search, I see your post is based on an internet report

As we continue to get more information that is coming out from this past weekends Bound For Glory events, PWInsider is reporting that Bobby Roode was scheduled to win the world title from Kurt Angle.

Hogan lobbied to have Angle go over Roode because he felt that Roode wasn't ready for a run with the title as he doesn't feel the time is right for Roode to be the top guy.

In addition to Hogan's opinions on Roode, there was a lot of a banter as reported on Twitter between Hogan and AJ Styles. According to reports, there was a lot of resentment towards Hogan from the long time company employees as Hogan criticized Styles on Twitter after Styles missed Saturdays fan interaction event due to a death in his family.

yeah, that's all definitely true. Fucking hell

[bigslimjj]

per the front page it did come down to him,actually. I go with what I'm told. I mean come on,the man is now wrestling with tha little people either for the payday alone,or to keep his name out there.

[Blakeamus]

fruit salad, yummy yummy

[CSL]

per the front page it did come down to him,actually.

You are an idiot.

[CSL]

god could you imagine the state of the wrestling world if all the bollocks written on the internet that these muppets take hook, line and sinker was true? I wonder how many world titles Eminem would have won by now?

[Blakeamus]

If it ain't reported by TMZ, damnit, I won't believe it!

[bigslimjj]

Cause these days TNA wreslting fans wanna see an old fart wrestle instead of KAZ,Abyss,Storm,Eric Young, or others that can actually still go.:nono:

[bigslimjj]

You are an idiot.Your Mom's an idiot,and she loves my sweet tarts.

[CSL]

brilliant

[CSL]

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ahahaha. What does that even mean? Is the 21st century indisputedly the century where it's a fact that Hogan is the anti-christ and everybody hates him? Do you feel I've somehow gone back in time whilst making Hulk Hogan posts?

[Blakeamus]

I'd say that TNA was better without Hogan's involvement.

[Blakeamus]

better off

[bigslimjj]

No I feel that you wanna bust out your cute little red and yellow shirt,take your vitamins and help that bleach blonde moron ruin another wrestling company. Cause that's what he's done since he got to TNA.

[Xero]

What CSL is saying about Hogan is true.

Except Hogan isn't a draw and isn't drawing people in on a permanent basis (and this can be backed up with ratings), and thus, no matter how great he is, no matter how much he can control a crowd, if he can't pull in any numbers, he's useless to a company like TNA.

[Blakeamus]

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ahahaha. What does that even mean? Is the 21st century indisputedly the century where it's a fact that Hogan is the anti-christ and everybody hates him? Do you feel I've somehow gone back in time whilst making Hulk Hogan posts?


Haha he neg rep you for that? He rep me for the "fruit salad, yummy yummy" line from the Wiggles...haha BURIED!

[CSL]

I'd say that TNA was better without Hogan's involvement.

I'd say they're pretty much exactly the same, the product is no better/as directionless as ever only they have more "names" now. I'd say people mostly shit on Hogan's involvement because TNA and Hogan promoted his and Bischoff's arrival as being something huge that was going to take the company to the next level when that was simply never going to be the case with everything else around them production and direction wise. That and TNA fans are fucking retarded, beaten only by the real hardcore ROH/indy fans.

[bigslimjj]

What CSL is saying about Hogan is true.

Except Hogan isn't a draw and isn't drawing people in on a permanent basis (and this can be backed up with ratings), and thus, no matter how great he is, no matter how much he can control a crowd, if he can't pull in any numbers, he's useless to a company like TNA.A waste of cash,time,and effort.

[Blakeamus]

What CSL is saying about Hogan is true.

Except Hogan isn't a draw and isn't drawing people in on a permanent basis (and this can be backed up with ratings), and thus, no matter how great he is, no matter how much he can control a crowd, if he can't pull in any numbers, he's useless to a company like TNA.

That is what I said awhile ago. The two years he's been there, I have not seen anything go into the right direction for the company...

[CSL]

No I feel that you wanna bust out your cute little red and yellow shirt,take your vitamins and help that bleach blonde moron ruin another wrestling company. Cause that's what he's done since he got to TNA.

good god. Are you 12? And what other companies did he ruin exactly? And after you've ridiculously typed WCW, please inform us all as to how exactly he ruined them as opposed to making a throwaway comment that simply follows the internet checklist for reasons why Hogan is the devil.

[Blakeamus]

I'd say they're pretty much exactly the same, the product is no better/as directionless as ever only they have more "names" now. I'd say people mostly shit on Hogan's involvement because TNA and Hogan promoted his and Bischoff's arrival as being something huge that was going to take the company to the next level when that was simply never going to be the case with everything else around them production and direction wise. That and TNA fans are fucking retarded, beaten only by the real hardcore ROH/indy fans.

Yeah, I had expected the arrival to bring them to the next level. But it didn't.

[bigslimjj]

good god. Are you 12? And what other companies did he ruin exactly? And after you've typed WCW, please inform us all as to how exactly he ruined them as opposed to simply following the internet checklist for reasons why Hogan is the devil.Well booking your own matches always works out for everyone doesn't it? Hogan's not the devil,he's a guy that can't let it go. He has deminished his leagacy and as much as he had done for the buisness..he's hurting it now. The problem is that him and the old Hulk Hogan fans that can't let it die. if Hulk sees a glimmer of light shining on him he thinks it's a solar flare.

[Blakeamus]

I thought at one time, Hogan was the cause of the downfall of WCW because that was what everybody said in the IWC. But it really wasn't. Watch the Rise and Fall of WCW, it will enlighten you bigslimjj.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

per the front page

If you've read it on this websites front page, assume the opposite is true. Seriously.

[Blakeamus]

HOGAN = Enquinsu ocha!!!

[CSL]

Well booking your own matches always works out for everyone doesn't it? Hogan's not the devil,he's a guy that can't let it go. He has deminished his leagacy and as much as he had done for the buisness..he's hurting it now. The problem is that him and the old Hulk Hogan fans that can't let it die. if Hulk sees a glimmer of light shining on him he thinks it's a solar flare.

he didn't book his own matches, he was offered creative control as an incentive to get him to sign in the first place. There's a difference. He was supposed to turn around and say 'no, it's okay'? And I always enjoy this notion of "destroying a legacy" that gets banded around about guys like Hogan and Flair. Something else that only ever gets mentioned by certain types on the internet. And who exactly did that Hogan/Sting match last night hurt? And that last bit about "old Hulk Hogan fans" might be the stupidest thing you've written so far.

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Clearly that pop at around 15 minutes was just old Hogan fans and not actually every fucker in the building creating the loudest reaction of the entire show. Seriously, get a fucking clue and an opinion of your own.

[VSG]

I remember that Bigslimjj guy. Got a few DAMN iNATOResque neg reps from him a while back.

[CSL]

sounds about right

[bigslimjj]

What do you think creative control means? Hence the word "Control". He controlled every aspect of his character along with Bischoff. That means booking your own matches. And this is MY OWN GOD DAMN OPINION.. I was a huge TNA fan before he got there. When he was brought in they literally changed everything about the brand. Ring,name,colors,talent etc. It didnt work.And as much as people such as yourself shit on the TNA brand, I'm surprised that you defend him and that horrible match.One pop does not a good match make.

[bigslimjj]

I thought at one time, Hogan was the cause of the downfall of WCW because that was what everybody said in the IWC. But it really wasn't. Watch the Rise and Fall of WCW, it will enlighten you bigslimjj.

I own it, and he was more responsible then most. Finger poke of doom,Bash at the beach vs. Jarrett,Sting vs. Hogan-Halloween havoc,Hogan vs Warrior etc.

[Blakeamus]

You got to give Hogan credit for taking bumps though BROTHER!

[CSL]

What do you think creative control means? Hence the word "Control". He controlled every aspect of his character along with Bischoff. That means booking your own matches. And this is MY OWN GOD DAMN OPINION.. I was a huge TNA fan before he got there. When he was brought in they literally changed everything about the brand. Ring,name,colors,talent etc. It didnt work.And as much as people such as yourself shit on the TNA brand, I'm surprised that you defend him and that horrible match.One pop does not a good match make.

creative control means you can refuse to do things and have a leg to stand on whilst doing it. And yes, control over your character. Everything else was still booked for and around him, he just had the right to say no. Whos fault is that? Do you think Hogan came in and and one day said "yeah, let's use the Power Slam logo as the new TNA logo" or "yeah, let's go with IMPACT WRESTLING" and so forth? And you seem to think I've stated that Hogan/Sting was Cena/Punk from MITB or something. And I take back part of what I said in the last post, the last sentence if this post is the stupidest thing you've written in this thread.

[CSL]

I own it, and he was more responsible then most. Finger poke of doom,Bash at the beach vs. Jarrett,Sting vs. Hogan-Halloween havoc,Hogan vs Warrior etc.

Yeah, those things didn't kill WCW.

[Blakeamus]

The company, WCW, as a whole was shit. Hogan played a part in politics with various others, but he wasn't more responsible for their demise.

[bigslimjj]

Yeah, those things didn't kill WCW.Well they damn sure got the ball rolling. Wasn't it hogans idea to combine the n.W.o. and in the same breath kill Goldbergs push? The dvd sure shows the clip of those incidents when the chapter starts about the downfall of the company.

[Blakeamus]

Hogan jobbed to Goldberg and gave Goldberg his first WCW Heavyweight title. I thought it was Kevin Nash's "creative control" that killed the Goldberg winning streak push?

[bigslimjj]

Hogan jobbed to Goldberg and gave Goldberg his first WCW Heavyweight title. I thought it was Kevin Nash's "creative control" that killed the Goldberg winning streak push?No Not at Starrcade.On the dvd they talk about how they beat down Berg after they rejoined the n.W.o. together,and that left no one to feud with and that killed the angle and any interest. I had always heard that because Hogan thought the wolfpac was more over, he wanted to be a part of it,and that cause the angle. I believe yes, Nash was booking.

[CSL]

Well they damn sure got the ball rolling. Wasn't it hogans idea to combine the n.W.o. and in the same breath kill Goldbergs push? The dvd sure shows the clip of those incidents when the chapter starts about the downfall of the company.

No, horrible mismanagement, throwing money around and leaving Bischoff pretty much alone to run all of that and then trying to fix it by having Russo and Ferrara come in and try and recreate the WWF got the ball rolling but even from there they could and probably would have recovered seeing how they were getting their shit together at the end. Jamie Kellner and Time Warner put the nail in the coffin/made the company worthless to anybody but Vince. That's pretty much the be all and end all. But forget all that, definitely Hogan's fault.

[CSL]

No Not at Starrcade.On the dvd they talk about how they beat down Berg after they rejoined the n.W.o. together,and that left no one to feud with and that killed the angle and any interest. I had always heard that because Hogan thought the wolfpac was more over, he wanted to be a part of it,and that cause the angle. Of which I believe yes Nash was booking.

"I had always heard". I wonder where you "had always heard" and just how reliable that information was.

[bigslimjj]

My major point is that they brought him in to help the company and it seems to me like he has helped himself. I don't think his name recognition is enough anymore,and he should realize that.

[Blakeamus]

Nash was booking.

Indeed. It wasn't Hogan.

[CSL]

My major point is that they brought him in to help the company and it seems to me like he has helped himself. I don't think his name recognition is enough anymore,and he should realize that.

Of course. "Don't give me that pay cheque, I've decided I don't like money anymore". A completely logical and realistic point right there.

[bigslimjj]

"I had always heard". I wonder where you "had always heard" and just how reliable that information was.The same place you read about wrestling news dingleberry. Do you have a guy on the inside of the buisness or something? cause most people on here get their news on the web. Unless you get the old paper dirt sheets in the mail.

[bigslimjj]

Of course. "Don't give me that pay cheque, I've decided I don't like money anymore". A completely logical and realistic point right there.That money wasn't for his ego. he said it was to help the company when he got there. Maybe he tried, but his ideas didnt work. Possibly because ALL the major angles were based around him

[CSL]

The same place you read about wrestling news dingleberry. Do you have a guy on the inside of the buisness or something? cause most people on here get their news on the web. Unless you get the old paper dirt sheets in the mail.

well the "having a guy on the inside" is definitely closer than reading bollocks on the internet

That money wasn't for his ego. he said it was to help the company when he got there.

you really are quite naive

[bigslimjj]

well the "having a guy on the inside" is definitely closer than reading bollocks on the internet



you really are quite naiveYes I was naive thinking that Huckster would come in and help add to the decentness that was TNA at the time. Not perfect,but it was certainly better and at least different from the other product, at the time.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The first rule of journalism always used to be name your sources to hold them accountable. Unfortunately, modern journalism has gone to shit anyway so it's not just a wrestling news problem, but if you believe everything you read with no source attached even in a respected newspaper and spout it like it is definitely what happened, you're an idiot.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The ghost lf Chris Kanyon was spotted sucking off half the TNA roster backstage at Bound for Glory. One insider was quoted as saying "Gosh, he really knows how to work the shaft".

[bigslimjj]

The ghost lf Chris Kanyon was spotted sucking off half the TNA roster backstage at Bound for Glory. One insider was quoted as saying "Gosh, he really knows how to work the shaft".You'll never see that footage on Ghost Hunters.

[VSG]

Modest to the top
Modest at the top
straight to the top and then keep headin up
stars shine for why we shouln'd give a fuck
about what is real
and how real is still the only way to feel the pain it sometimes deals
in a way that survives the struggles we face
in this life there's alot of time can't erase
showcase the skills you were givin at birth
live your life here for what it's worth
show off the style you perfect in life
show all the way to make it right
make it to the top of mt. profession
rule it until you feel theres nothin more for you to do
or say none of you better get in my way
comin down if u do you'll be back on level ground
modest to the top
modest at the top
still modest past top

[VSG]

Another me is what there will never be
Another life like this you'll never see
Another me is what there will never be
Another life like this you'll never see
Another day is all I think about
Equal we are when time runs out
Another memory I seem to be
In a life long game of monopoly
Another direct line I want to bend
Another form of disease I want to end
I want to end

Another day is all I think about
Equal we are when time runs out
Another memory I seem to be
In a life long game of monopoly
Thank you heavenly
For my health and history
If there comes a time
In which I die before i wake
I know my soul you will take care of
And guide through
Leaving earth to meet you
Another me is what there will never be
Another life like this you'll never see
Another day is all I think about
Equal we are when time runs out
Another memory I seem to be
In a life long game of monopoly
Another direct line I want to bend
Another form of disease I want to end
Sicknesses Armageddon
I've prepared your eulogy
Wiz I'm not
Our father who chills in heaven
I worship you and your creation
Thank you heavenly
For my health and history
If there comes a time
In which I die before I wake
I know my soul you will take care of
And guide through
Leaving earth to meet you
Another series is what I want to play
Another problem I don't need today
Another choice is what I want to choose
Equal we are when time will lose
Another plant is what I want to grow
Another way is how I want to go
Another direct side I want to sin
Another form of disease I want to end
I want to end
Death I want to die
Another smile is what I want to see
Another change in ways of history
Another now is what I need today
Equal we are in time are we
Another line is what I need to write
Another sound is what I need tonight
Another life is what I cannot lie
Another case of death I want to die
Death I want to die
Another me is what there will never be
Another life like this you'll never see
Another day is all I think about
Equal we are when time runs out
Death I want to die
Another form of disease I want to end
I want to end

[bigslimjj]

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[XL]

The first rule of journalism always used to be name your sources to hold them accountable. Unfortunately, modern journalism has gone to shit anyway so it's not just a wrestling news problem, but if you believe everything you read with no source attached even in a respected newspaper and spout it like it is definitely what happened, you're an idiot.
Would it be equally as idiotic to say it definately didn't happen?

[Mr. Nerfect]

What CSL is saying about Hogan is true.

Except Hogan isn't a draw and isn't drawing people in on a permanent basis (and this can be backed up with ratings), and thus, no matter how great he is, no matter how much he can control a crowd, if he can't pull in any numbers, he's useless to a company like TNA.

Bingo. This is what it ultimately comes down to. TNA has grown very little. You can say they are exactly the same but with "names," but if those names aren't making you any more money than you already were, but are costing money? That's a bad thing.

[Rammsteinmad]

Basically Hogan is in this for himself. Nothing wrong with that, people like to make money, and I probably wouldn't say no to it either. But Bound For Glory, TNA's 'Wrestlemania' basically ended up being a huge ego-handjob for Hogan. Not a good move business-wise for the company. I'm sure the 2000 people in attendence enjoyed the nostalgia of Hogan 'Hulking-Up', but as a product and a wrestling company, Hogan never really helped TNA after his first week in the company, and BFG was the icing on the cake, I doubt the 'millions' watching at home didn't enjoy it as much.

And of course, Hogan saying how the show was great etc afterwards. :roll:

[Mr. JL]

Basically Hogan is in this for himself. Nothing wrong with that, people like to make money, and I probably wouldn't say no to it either. But Bound For Glory, TNA's 'Wrestlemania' basically ended up being a huge ego-handjob for Hogan. Not a good move business-wise for the company. I'm sure the 2000 people in attendence enjoyed the nostalgia of Hogan 'Hulking-Up', but as a product and a wrestling company, Hogan never really helped TNA after his first week in the company, and BFG was the icing on the cake, I doubt the 'millions' watching at home didn't enjoy it as much.

And of course, Hogan saying how the show was great etc afterwards. :roll:

:y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Don't worry, guys -- Jeff Hardy will take the company to the next level. In his reliable hands, TNA will have a media icon to do talk show appearances and truly represent what TNA is all about.

[LewisTheTruest]

Read like 3 pages of this before I decided there are fuck all current wrestling fans on TPWW outiside of WWE. I mean ppl that care about whats going on in the ring besides all else. Yes there were some awesome matches but anything else that lacked in match credibility were directly related to the storyline. ZOMG a Hogan face turn?.. That had nothing to do with the fact he just signed a new contract and reached the pinnacle of an oldschool rivalary relived?? AA v Kendrick was pure awesome ala oldschool WCW cruisers. RVD v Lynn was a throwback to their ECW days with extra violence. The end of the I quit match sucked but was still a decent watch between bells. If you read the headlines of this very site you'd know Hogan said Roode wasn't ready so they went with a controverial style win but the match was still good.

Commence rape

[James Steele]

God, you are such a fucking twat.

[CSL]

lol

[VSG]

lol

[XL]

What is he even trying to say? I'm not fluent in stupid, can someone translate?

[Rammsteinmad]

Read like 3 pages of this before I decided there are fuck all current wrestling fans on TPWW outiside of WWE. I mean ppl that care about whats going on in the ring besides all else. Yes there were some awesome matches but anything else that lacked in match credibility were directly related to the storyline. ZOMG a Hogan face turn?.. That had nothing to do with the fact he just signed a new contract and reached the pinnacle of an oldschool rivalary relived?? AA v Kendrick was pure awesome ala oldschool WCW cruisers. RVD v Lynn was a throwback to their ECW days with extra violence. The end of the I quit match sucked but was still a decent watch between bells. If you read the headlines of this very site you'd know Hogan said Roode wasn't ready so they went with a controverial style win but the match was still good.

Commence rape

Doesn't the fact that some of us watched the PPV prove that we 'like' TNA?

RVD/Lynns old-school nod was full of botches.

Daniels/Styles had a rubbish ending.

Sting/Hogan had Hogan in it aka. not putting people over clean and proper.

Roode/Angle was ok, but with a rubbish ending.

Aries/Kendrick was good. I'll admit I liked this match.

The Knock-Outs match was a Knock-Outs match

The PPV as a whole was awful. On paper it could have been good, but unfortunately it got TNA'd.

[Blakeamus]

RVD v Lynn was a throwback to their ECW days with extra botches.

Fixed.