Oficial Raw Hilo Para 10/17/11 - No Vivo Desde México

[Cool King]

I don't entirely trust Google Translate, but oh well.

Anyway, sup?

As always....

TPWW Chat: http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=109788

Also, please no spoilers, just incase some of us haven't read them. :)

[Xero]

I would have gone with a Montezuma's Revenge joke myself.

[Juan]

You've got the wrong word for thread there in Spanish.

Unless you meant this

http://www.ezyquilt.com/i/Accessories/000_1021_threads_poly_assorted.jpg

[Cool King]

Damn. :(

[bigslimjj]

Esta noche Triple H comienza su búsqueda para enterrar la verdad y The Miz.

lol. When i first wrote Miz in google translate...it put "La Senora".:lol:

[Nicky Fives]

VIVA MEHEECO!

[Xero]

¿Quién será enterrado esta noche?

[Aguakate]

We should just do the whole thread in Spanish...

...or maybe not.

[bigslimjj]

We should just do the whole thread in Spanish...

...or maybe not.Me encanta esa idea.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Probablemente voy a ver House MD en vez de WWE Monday Night Raw!

[bigslimjj]

¿Quién será enterrado esta noche?Google translate my first post and you will have your answer Cero

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Speak English or I'll assume you're all plotting terrorist attacks and ban you accordingly.

[Aguakate]

Probablemente voy a ver House MD en vez de WWE Monday Night Raw!

Estas loco!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's the American way.

[Aguakate]

Speak English or I'll assume you're all plotting terrorist attacks and ban you accordingly.

Latinos don't carry out any terrorist attacks. We just come into your country and take your jobs, especially those who nobody wants to do, but still...

[Cool King]

I really haven't seen a lot of Latinos in Britain.

[Aguakate]

I'm speaking to the Americans in here.

[bigslimjj]

Latinos don't carry out any terrorist attacks. We just come into your country and take your jobs, especially those who nobody wants to do, but still...Tomaron nuestros trabajos!

[Aguakate]

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[bigslimjj]

Sin cara means "Faceless" in spanish. Heel Sin cara is technicly the only "Faceless one"..get it?

[Innovator]

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That better be on RAW.

[RKO'em]

Now that it's almost 9, I regret reading the results. Oh well. Hope they don't add too much fake crowd reaction

[Providence Peep]

i haven't read any spoilers. Looking forward to watching this. (I think.)

[ClockShot]

Oh. So there is a thread tonight.

[blak23]

i feel this will be a a stinker

[Innovator]

lol Johnny Ace trying to heel on the crowd in English.

[Cool King]

Mexico gets the actual Raw set while the UK just gets a titantron, a flag, and a vehicle. :(

[blak23]

his promos are painful

[ClockShot]

I wanna hear how the crowd pops when Del Rio's music hits.

GET HIM OUT HERE ALREADY!

[Cool King]

Piped in cheers.

[Innovator]

I want to hear Ricardo's superrrrrrduperrrrrrrr ring intrrrrrrroduction

[ClockShot]

Crowd dies out and picks back up again.

Is this getting piped in?

[blak23]

wtf

[Blakeamus]

I shouldn't of read the spoilers...

[Jari]

Crowd dies out and picks back up again.

Is this getting piped in?
What do you think?

[Blakeamus]

wow! A 9 minute opening promo?

[blak23]

i like how they put twitters now

[Immortal Moose]

inspiring start...

[RKO'em]

Orton seemed to get the biggest pop ive heard for him in a while. Didn't seem piped in.

[Cool King]

Jesus, they're displaying the Twitter account name along with the name of the wrestler now.

Who was it on TPWW that said that they should do that, like they did back in the day with the wrestlers website addresses?

[blak23]

no twitter for sheamus

[Cool King]

Sheamus doesn't have a Twitter account. Good man.

[Blakeamus]

I like when they say stuff like that..."Has Mark Henry finally met his match." He took out Big Show...

[Providence Peep]

Sheamus doesn't have a Twitter account. Good man.

Perhaps he wouldn't know how to use it.
If that's the case, then it's not just the pasty white skin that he and I have in common.

[blak23]

and now the squash

[Blakeamus]

BURIED...

[Jari]

Nice to see Morrison has taken on the crucial role that the Brooklyn Brawler used to perform so well.

[Providence Peep]

I can't wait for Morrison's contract to just expire. Pull the plug, already.

[Providence Peep]

Nice to see Morrison has taken on the crucial role that the Brooklyn Brawler used to perform so well.

The only difference is Brawler actually WON some matches.
Sure, it was against The Red Rooster, but that's still more than Morrison has done.

[Corndad]

Morrison got screwed by Melina and not the way Batista screwed her either.

[Jari]

Or Not So Foxy Knoxy...

[Providence Peep]

Morrison got screwed by Melina and not the way Batista screwed her either.

Maybe Morrison screwed Morrison?

[Blakeamus]

TNA's NEXT X-Division champion...

[Cool King]

I can't wait for Brodus Clay on Raw.

[ClockShot]

Bellas lookin' fiiiiiiiiiiiiine.

[blak23]

fuck was up with their faces

[Jari]

Just me or is it near impossible to hear Funk Man's voice, without a mic?

[Immortal Moose]

I was having trouble even when he did have a mic

[Blakeamus]

No aggressive Kelly Kelly on a war path tonight?

[chieflikeanindian]

I wonder if the crowd will say Que? after every sentence during a promo

[Immortal Moose]

That would probably make my night

edit: its a slow night

[Corndad]

It's Clobberin time!!

[Corndad]

lol Miz rapping Spanish

[Immortal Moose]

aww I was hoping for a spanish remix

[Cool King]

CM Punk is not impressed.

[blak23]

pendajo

[Blakeamus]

haha that smile/frown CM Punk

[Cool King]

We've only had two matches in the space of one hour. A 6-Man Tag Match and a Diva's Match, which was probably only five minutes long. :-\

[Providence Peep]

Cole looks ready to main event!

http://i45.tinypic.com/24v07ki.jpg

[Immortal Moose]

Edit: also LOL ^

i appreciate the half nelson pin

[blak23]

more luchadore type spots tonight

[Immortal Moose]

bow tie

[Cool King]

Cole talking about Twitter and watching Vengeance for free sounded like it was piped in. :-\

[Providence Peep]

Is anyone here other than me going to Survivor Series?

[Corndad]

Survivor Series is gonna be sick this year, I just have a feeling.

[Aguakate]

They're in Mexico, so, of course, Vicky comes out dressed as a Spanish dancer.

[Emperor Smeat]

Would be better if she screamed "Excuse Me" in Spanish.

[blak23]

Would be better if she screamed "Excuse Me" in Spanish.

totally agree

[Corndad]

Vickie doesn't need piped in heat.

[Aguakate]

She did, Meatball lol. It was the first thing she said, "Con Permiso".

Can't ask for much, though...Vicky doesn't speak Spanish very well.

[blak23]

titus O'Neil buried

[Cool King]

Titus O'Neil will never make it.

[Providence Peep]

Titus O'Neil will never make it.

Well, maybe if he'd stop trying to look like Percy Watson....

[Corndad]

Well that didn't take long lol

[blak23]

swagger squash

[Cool King]

Oh fuck off Mason Ryan.

[Corndad]

Mason walks funny

[blak23]

Mason Ryan has a strut

[Rollermacka]

Hmm, I just realized TNA has Robbie E teamed with Rob Terry and now WWE has Zach Ryder teamed with Mason Ryan. Coincidence?

[blak23]

Hmm, I just realized TNA has Robbie E teamed with Rob Terry and now WWE has Zach Ryder teamed with Mason Ryan. Coincidence?

yes

[blak23]

mason ryan using the thump

[Corndad]

Most Generic Rock Music Theme Ever.

[Cool King]

Mason Ryan seems to always be flailing his arms around for no reason.

[Aguakate]

I think these fans just boo the heels and cheers the faces, without really knowing what is being said.

[Skippord]

I'll bully whomever I want, fuck you WWE

[sptaz]

Wow, this ought to be great - JR is such a great athlete :naughty:

[Providence Peep]

Remember this guy?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51lWbXW4aEL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

:lol:

[sptaz]

Nice lid

[Providence Peep]

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[Corndad]

Primetime Wrestling should be on WWE Network every day it exists

[Supreme Olajuwon]

and Michael Cole's push gets fed to the Cena machine :roll:

#buried

[sptaz]

Cole gets put in a Hole

[Providence Peep]

and Michael Cole's push gets fed to the Cena machine :roll:

There's only one person who can stop him.

http://www.johncena4u.com/wp-content/uploads/867/NK0130347.jpg

[Supreme Olajuwon]

if only Cena sold that good in the ring :roll:

#nosellcena

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I didn't know Cena could even count to 10. I didn't think he could go any higher than five. :roll:

#fivemovesofdeath

[Aguakate]

Since when do the "Faces" beat up on the "Heels" leading up to a PPV Title Match?

It used to be the other way around...the heels would beat up on the face, which would make the fans buy the PPV in order to see the face get revenge. Wrestling 101.

Perhaps that's one of the reasons for the low PPV buys. Wrestling has gotten away from what brought it to the dance in the first place.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh wait, he probably learned how to count to 10 during the last 850 last man standing matches he was in this year. :roll:

#sameoldshit

[Corndad]

Maybe Cena got the upper hand tonight cause he's not getting his 100th reign on Sunday. They can't possibly change the title again... can they?

[Aguakate]

Maybe Cena got the upper hand tonight cause he's not getting his 100th reign on Sunday. They can't possibly change the title again... can they?

It's JOHN CENA we're talking about. Of course he can win it again.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Maybe Cena got the upper hand tonight cause he's not getting his 100th reign on Sunday. They can't possibly change the title again... can they?

Of course they can. WWE doesn't care about making the titles mean anything. :roll:

#titlesareworthless

[Juan]

Since when do the "Faces" beat up on the "Heels" leading up to a PPV Title Match?

It used to be the other way around...

No it didn't.

I've seen both faces and heels get the upper hand before a PPV

[Supreme Olajuwon]

When will WWE learn that you don't make your titles valuable by having the biggest name in wrestling constantly obsess about being champion? That's just stupid. :roll:

#idiotbooking

[Providence Peep]

It's JOHN CENA we're talking about. Of course he can win it again.

John Cena can do ANYTHING

http://www.johncena4u.com/wp-content/uploads/1184/John-Cena-john-cena-1585903-356-477.jpg

:shifty:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He can do anything except put somebody else over. :roll:

#whobooksthisshit

[TheChairman]

Thank god for DVR. I was able to fast forward all the shit, which was pretty much the whole show.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I wish WWE would actually cater to real fans instead of little kids with 5 minute attention spans. :roll:

#fucklittlejimmy

[Blakeamus]

Maybe Cena got the upper hand tonight cause he's not getting his 100th reign on Sunday. They can't possibly change the title again... can they?

They are done with the Mexico Tour...so highly likely.

[Blakeamus]

Thank god for DVR. I was able to fast forward all the shit, which was pretty much the whole show.

Since you fast foward all the shit, which was pretty much the whole show...then you wouldn't have known if it was actual shit.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Just throwing this out there, but maybe they had Del Rio win the Rumble, have a title match at Wrestlemania and close out Summerslam as champion for reasons other than planning for this tour to Mexico.

[Blakeamus]

Just a hunch Supreme.

[Providence Peep]

Just throwing this out there, but maybe they had Del Rio win the Rumble, have a title match at Wrestlemania and close out Summerslam as champion for reasons other than planning for this tour to Mexico.

But that still doesn't explain this photo

http://www.johncena4u.com/wp-content/uploads/1188/cenations-baby-he-is-mine-john-cena-16600495-358-450.jpg

[Supreme Olajuwon]

it sure doesnt

[Lock Jaw]

Seriously can't see how Cena isn't winning on Sunday now with that stipulation.

The only possible ending where Del Rio wins is one where he somehow ties Cena to the ground. Probably with some help.

[Lock Jaw]

Also, still can't believe that Zack Ryder has gone from getting squashed to squashing former World Champions. :shifty:

[Juan]

So you think it'd be more likely for Del Rio to retain against Cena in a regular one on one match?

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah. He would only have to keep him down for 3. Which is not an easy feat... but definitely way more accomplishable than a 10 count.

[owenbrown]

Seriously can't see how Cena isn't winning on Sunday now with that stipulation.

The only possible ending where Del Rio wins is one where he somehow ties Cena to the ground. Probably with some help.


The entire WWE locker room, Justin Roberts, the timekeeper, the English AND Spanish announce teams, and the cameramen and the refs could Krazy Glue Cena to the mat and he could STILL somehow win

[Juan]

Yeah. He would only have to keep him down for 3. Which is not an easy feat... but definitely way more accomplishable than a 10 count.

Even tho Del Rio can use weapons and outside interference, which he can't do in a regular match?

[Corndad]

I somehow think Miz/Truth will be involved and cost Cena again. Del Rio keeps the title and Cena loses with that stipulation. Gets Del Rio in with the Survivor Series I think they are setting up with Cena/HHH/Punk/Rock/Random Face all on one team vs Del Rio/Miz/Truth/Random Heel 1/ Random Heel 2

[Juan]

I really don't think Punk is gonna be on the Cena/Rock team, because CM Punk has been scheduled to feud with Del Rio for a few weeks now

[Juan]

Which is why odds are that Del Rio retains at Vengeance

[bigslimjj]

But that still doesn't explain this photo

http://www.johncena4u.com/wp-content/uploads/1188/cenations-baby-he-is-mine-john-cena-16600495-358-450.jpgThat pic is a little "coom si coom sa" as The Rock would say.

#fruitypebblesbirdshoulders

[el bobbo]

Maybe we'll get another "Passion of the Cena" match like he had against The Miz over the summer. He will overcome the odds, even death.

[Juan]

It just doesn't make sense to put the WWE Champion in a multi-man tag match at a big PPV like SS.

I may be wrong, but I doubt it.

[GD]

How can HHH have immigration problems?

[Juan]

Because they were in Mexico?

[GD]

I was comparing it to the traditional meaning of immigration.

[Juan]

You don't have to literally migrate to another country to have immigration problems

[GD]

I understand.

[GD]

Visa problems?

[Juan]

That would be my guess, but I wouldn't put too much thought into it

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Whatever it was, it made Otunga take a thoughtful sip out of his travel mug that's for sure.

[DaVe]

That crowd seemed pretty boisterous. And I'm not talking about the piped-in stuff. Legitimately huge pops relative to a regular Raw crowd.

[GD]

Whatever it was, it made Otunga take a thoughtful sip out of his travel mug that's for sure.

It was the defining moment for that episode of RAW.

[Malfeitor]

Supreme's mock Twitter posts were the best thing about this thread.

Good day, sirs.

[Volare]

#PullingaTNAandrippingoffSupreme'smocktwitterposts

[MIZantine Empire]

Also, still can't believe that Zack Ryder has gone from getting squashed to squashing former World Champions. :shifty:
i love zack ryder, but i wouldnt look to far into this, remember back a lil bit ago when santino won in a squash over sheamus?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I somehow think Miz/Truth will be involved and cost Cena again. Del Rio keeps the title and Cena loses with that stipulation. Gets Del Rio in with the Survivor Series I think they are setting up with Cena/HHH/Punk/Rock/Random Face all on one team vs Del Rio/Miz/Truth/Random Heel 1/ Random Heel 2

This really makes the most sense. Cena and Rock are confirmed partners at Survivor Series, and it'd play off their stuff earlier in the year if The Miz was in there, and he's been running buddies with R-Truth. I wonder if they'll try and get some other "huge matches" on the card, though.

Triple H and CM Punk could both be in Team Cena, for example, or they could do Triple H vs. CM Punk II (this time...it's not personal) and have their spots filled by guys from SmackDown! like Orton and Sheamus, since brands don't matter anymore.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

John Cena, The Rock, Air Boom Vs. R-Truth, Miz, Swagger, Dolph.

Maybe they throw in Zack Ryder (Mason Ryan maybe) and another heel.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just something to throw out there, though -- why would Cena choose a Last Man Standing Match? Yeah, Cena usually wins them (has he ever lost one?), but wouldn't an "I Quit" Match work better? Cena never gives up, and his opponents never do. It's the same No DQ environment, only Cena's got even more control.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He lost to Edge when Big Show chokeslammed him through the spotlight thing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

John Cena, The Rock, Air Boom Vs. R-Truth, Miz, Swagger, Dolph.

Maybe they throw in Zack Ryder and another heel.

The idea of Zack Ryder interacting with John Cena and The Rock is making me smile. I'm not calling for a Ryder main event push, by the way. Just saying that it'd be harmless fun. Especially if Ryder wins the US Title, and they could throw in Rhodes and have a Champion vs. Champion aspect. If that were the case, you could have Randy Orton join Team Cena, which would make marks jizz and would add to the dynamic of having Ryder around these bad-ass faces. That leaves one guy, and you could have it be Mason Ryan. He seems to have a mini-feud with Ziggler & Swagger going.

The heel team would then be The Miz, R-Truth, Cody Rhodes, Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger. This leaves CM Punk open to challenge for the WWE Title, Kane ready to return and face Mark Henry once Big Show is knocked back, and a second Survivor Series Match featuring mostly SmackDown! dudes:

Sheamus, Big Show, Sin Cara & Air Boom vs. Christian, Wade Barrett, Presumably Unmasked Heel Sin Cara, Curt Hawkins & Tyler Reks

And then you could also have Daniel Bryan, with Shawn Michaels in his corner, against Tyson Kidd, with Bret Hart in his. Yeah, that seems very unlikely -- but maybe the WWE would do something like this to promote their new DVD?

Throw in a random Divas Match, and you've got a pretty fucking stacked card.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yes, I know that is very unrealistic. I don't care.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They always mix in midcard (or lower CM Punk/Mike Knox) feuds into their Survivor Series matches. So, it is perfectly reasonable that Zack would be on the team.

[Blakeamus]

Just something to throw out there, though -- why would Cena choose a Last Man Standing Match? Yeah, Cena usually wins them (has he ever lost one?), but wouldn't an "I Quit" Match work better? Cena never gives up, and his opponents never do. It's the same No DQ environment, only Cena's got even more control.

He already competed in an "I Quit" match with the Miz this year. Apparently they have those stips cycled to Cena matches.

[Juan]

Why do people keep ignoring the fact that Punk is supposed to feud with Del Rio so him being on Team Rock/Cena is highly unlikely?

[Juan]

Sources report that WWE's Vengeance pay-per-view will be the event where John Cena finally breaks away from the WWE Title picture. Cena will be facing Alberto Del Rio in a Last Man Standing Match for Del Rio's WWE Title.

This would indicate that Del Rio is retaining the title. After Vengeance, Cena will begin the build for Survivor Series and further his feud with The Rock. Del Rio is scheduled to go into a feud with CM Punk.

Source: PWInsider

[XL]

What will they do with the loose alliance of Christian, Rhodes, Ziggler, Swagger and Otunga, seems like a Survivor Series team right there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why do people keep ignoring the fact that Punk is supposed to feud with Del Rio so him being on Team Rock/Cena is highly unlikely?

Because it's also likely that Del Rio will be included in the match against Cena and The Rock, and thus any problems Punk has with Del Rio could lead to, or come out of, that match?

That being said, I'm starting to think the babyface team will look like John Cena, The Rock, Triple H, Mason Ryan & Zack Ryder, with CM Punk challenging Alberto Del Rio elsewhere on the card. And I could see them letting Punk win there.

[Juan]

On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is it that Del Rio will be included in the match against Cena/Rock?

[Mr. Nerfect]

On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is it that Del Rio will be included in the match against Cena/Rock?

Probably about a 7. I'd say it's very likely that the WWE would want their WWE Champion interacting with The Rock.