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Supreme Olajuwon
10-31-2011, 11:06 PM
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The Miz

VS.

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Dolph Ziggler

3 DAYS

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Guerrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon (44-21)</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option><option>#114. The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair (44-43)</option><option>#115. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Ron Simmons (33-25)</option><option>#116. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Juventud Guerrera (28-19)</option><option>#117. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. The Big Show (25-39)</option><option>#118. The Big Show vs. Sid (50-10)</option><option>#119. The Big Show vs. Lance Storm (18-48)</option><option>#120. Lance Storm vs. Meng (65-7)</option><option>#121. Lance Storm vs. John Cena (53-18)</option><option>#122. Lance Storm vs. Sting (23-50)</option><option>#123. Sting vs. The Ultimate Warrior (57-18)</option><option>#124. Sting vs. Dusty Rhodes (50-24)</option><option>#125. Sting vs. CM Punk (41-32)</option><option>#126. Sting vs. Randy Savage (27-50)</option><option>#127. Randy Savage vs. Jim Duggan (65-7)</option><option>#128. Randy Savage vs. AJ Styles (64-13)</option><option>#129. Randy Savage vs. Booker T (61-16)</option><option>#130. Randy Savage vs. Roddy Piper (55-27)</option><option>#131. Rick Martel vs. Tito Santana (35-29)</option><option>#132. Rick Martel vs. Shane Douglas (29-36)</option><option>#133. Shane Douglas vs. Rhino (35-38)</option><option>#134. Rhino vs. Jeff Jarrett (30-36)</option><option>#135. Jeff Jarrett vs. Mike Rotunda (30-38)</option><option>#136. Mike Rotunda vs. Chris Kanyon (44-24)</option><option>#137. Mike Rotunda vs. Barry Windham (38-17)</option><option>#138. Mike Rotunda vs. Scott Hall (11-63)</option><option>#139. Scott Hall vs. Goldberg (60-17)</option><option>#140. Scott Hall vs. Kevin Nash (47-31)</option><option>#141. Scott Hall vs. Brian Pillman (44-34)</option><option>#142. Scott Hall vs. Edge (26-64)</option><option>#143. Edge vs. Matt Hardy (71-12)</option><option>#144. Edge vs. Arn Anderson (38-34)</option><option>#145. Edge vs. Randy Orton (45-36)</option><option>#146. Edge vs. Triple H (29-47)</option><option>#147. Triple H vs. Batista (65-8)</option><option>#148. Triple H vs. Raven (54-25)</option><option>#149. Triple H vs. Ricky Steamboat (44-43)</option><option>#150. Triple H vs. Eddie Guerrero (43-56)</option><option>#151. Eddie Guerrero vs. Trish Stratus (58-12)</option><option>#152. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Great Muta (47-11)</option><option>#153. Eddie Guerrero vs. Curt Hennig (34-43)</option><option>#154. Curt Hennig vs. Jerry Lawler (63-9)</option><option>#155. Curt Hennig vs. Hulk Hogan (54-17)</option><option>#156. Curt Hennig vs. Christian (47-26)</option><option>#157. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (31-44)</option><option>#158. The Rock vs. Steve Blackman (54-22)</option><option>#159. The Rock vs. Vader (54-14)</option><option>#160. The Rock vs. Mick Foley (48-22)</option><option>#161. The Rock vs. Bret Hart (42-49)</option><option>#162. Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith (70-8)</option><option>#163. Bret Hart vs. Dean Malenko (52-16)</option><option>#164. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (47-18)</option><option>#165. Bret Hart vs. Ric Flair (53-32)</option><option>#166. Barry Darsow vs. Ed Leslie (45-13)</option><option>#167. Barry Darsow vs. Jacques Rougeau (17-38)</option><option>#168. Jacques Rougeau vs. Evan Bourne (18-49)</option><option>#169. Evan Bourne vs. Mr. Anderson (38-16)</option><option>#170. Evan Bourne vs. Bryan Danielson(10-50)</option><option>#171. Bryan Danielson vs. Billy Gunn (56-16)</option><option>#172. Bryan Danielson vs. The Miz (42-26)</option><option>#173. Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Benoit (27-40)</option><option>#174. Chris Benoit vs. Chavo Guerrero (53-8)</option><option>#175. Chris Benoit vs. Perry Saturn (48-13)</option><option>#176. Chris Benoit vs. Lance Storm (36-21)</option><option>#177. Chris Benoit vs. Ted Dibiase (41-34)</option><option>#178. TAKA Michinoku vs. Sho Funaki (51-9)</option><option>#179. TAKA Michinoku vs. Santino Marella (48-9)</option><option>#180. TAKA Michinoku vs. Rey Mysterio (23-41)</option><option>#181. Rey Mysterio vs. Gregory Helms (34-8)</option><option>#182. Rey Mysterio vs. Jeff Hardy (41-18)</option><option>#183. Rey Mysterio vs. Diamond Dallas Page (34-37)</option><option>#184. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Big Boss Man (49-5)</option><option>#185. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Yoshihiro Tajiri (34-18)</option><option>#186. Diamond Dallas Page vs. CM Punk (19-41)</option><option>#187. CM Punk vs. Terry Funk (35-18)</option><option>#188. CM Punk vs. Kane (40-13)</option><option>#189. CM Punk vs. Rob Van Dam (39-22)</option><option>#190. CM Punk vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (39-37)</option><option>#191. Ted DiBiase, Jr. vs. Cody Rhodes (23-36)</option><option>#192. Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust (10-51)</option><option>#193. Goldust vs. Shelton Benjamin (41-22)</option><option>#194. Goldust vs. Rick Rude (21-37)</option><option>#195. Rick Rude vs. Rick Martel (42-6)</option><option>#196. Rick Rude vs. The Big Show (30-15)</option><option>#197. Rick Rude vs. Jake Roberts (26-38)</option><option>#198. Jake Roberts vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield (50-16)</option><option>#199. Jake Roberts vs. Arn Anderson (39-31)</option><option>#200. Jake Roberts vs. Brian Pillman (34-20)</option><option>#201. Jake Roberts vs. Edge (42-28)</option><option>#202. Raven vs. Shane Douglas (45-6)</option><option>#203. Raven vs. R-Truth (39-6)</option><option>#204. Raven vs. Booker T (31-40)</option><option>#205. Booker T vs. Jerry Lawler (37-20)</option><option>#206. Booker T vs. Sheamus (51-11)</option><option>#207. Booker T vs. Christian (21-33)</option><option>#208. Christian vs. Jushin "Thunder" Liger</option><option>#209. Christian vs. Kevin Nash (30-24)</option><option>#210. Christian vs. Randy Orton (41-22)</option><option>#211. Christian vs. Eddie Guerrero (10-66)</option><option>#212. Eddie Guerrero vs. Andre the Giant (55-16)</option><option>#213. Eddie Guerrero vs. Hulk Hogan (47-29)</option><option>#214. Eddie Guerrero vs. Scott Hall (47-18)</option><option>#215. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Rock (28-40)</option><option>#216. The Rock vs. William Regal (39-17)</option><option>#217. The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar (47-13)</option><option>#218. The Rock vs. Sting (31-19)</option><option>#219. The Rock vs. Triple H (40-27)</option><option>#220. Ahmed Johnson vs. Ezekiel Jackson (41-11)</option><option>#221. Ahmed Johnson vs. The Godfather (6-44)</option><option>#222. The Godfather vs. D'Lo Brown (9-42)</option><option>#223. D'Lo Brown vs. Val Venis (29-20)</option><option>#224. D'Lo Brown vs. Mark Henry (36-23)</option><option>#225. D'Lo Brown vs. The Miz (10-46)</option><option>#226. The Miz vs. John Morrison (52-13)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>"The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels</option><option>The Undertaker</option><option>"Macho Man" Randy Savage</option><option>Bret "Hitman" Hart</option><option>Chris Benoit</option><option>CM Punk</option><option>Jake "The Snake" Roberts</option><option>The Rock</option></select>

Better Wrestler All Time Records (http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=102087)

XCaliber
10-31-2011, 11:10 PM
I voted for the one who doesn't job to Zack Ryder on a weekly basis. :D

Lock Jaw
10-31-2011, 11:35 PM
Dolph Ziggler is pretty much where The Miz was two years ago. US Champ and on a major roll.

The Miz has solidified himself as a bonafide star, so he gets my vote.

I love both on the mic. I love both's charisma. Dolph better in the ring... but Miz has just done more and accomplished more. Entertained me more. Puts him over the top slightly.

Also, the picture of Dolph above is creeping me out a bit with his bulging torso.

weather vane
11-01-2011, 12:14 AM
Dolph is so mint

Rock Bottom
11-01-2011, 12:50 AM
Ziggler. This is a good match-up. Basically only boils down to in-ring skill, they're both charismatic, although Miz has an edge on the mic.

SlickyTrickyDamon
11-01-2011, 02:51 AM
It's gotta be the Miz. We aren't voting on potiental we are voting on what has happened. #realtalk.

Seth82
11-01-2011, 03:17 AM
Dolph Ziggler

KaosDarksol
11-01-2011, 03:53 AM
The miz easily because he is... Awesome!!!

RiX1024
11-01-2011, 06:38 AM
Tough call, but The Miz gets the win.

Nicky Fives
11-01-2011, 06:52 AM
Miz..... My answer could be different in a years time.....

jskinnyg
11-01-2011, 09:20 AM
For now it is the Miz... But I see Dolph rising up... Finally...

Gertner
11-01-2011, 10:56 AM
Wow, extremely tough. I'm voting for the Miz, because the Miz has more charisma

Nicky Fives
11-01-2011, 01:33 PM
For now it is the Miz... But I see Dolph rising up... Finally...

for sure.....

What Would Kevin Do?
11-01-2011, 03:16 PM
It's gotta be the Miz. We aren't voting on potiental we are voting on what has happened. #realtalk.

Yeah, but like it's already been said, give Dolph a year or two.

And I really hope he starts using #Heel on tv more. It's just a badass way to end a promo.

Emperor Smeat
11-01-2011, 03:33 PM
Tough matchup but the Miz at least for now.

Ziggler's run and gradual rise is very similar to when the Miz started his rise with the US reign last year. Wouldn't be surprised if he eventually matched Miz's success post-US reign but for now the Miz benefits more by having the main event experience and WWE championship reign.

SuperSlim
11-01-2011, 10:38 PM
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7917/img0106og.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/530/img0106og.jpg/)

He's listening to all the people that approve of him.

Rock Bottom
11-01-2011, 10:54 PM
Not surprised how close this is. Making me wanna see a Miz/Ziggler match.

ddpBANG
11-01-2011, 10:59 PM
The Mizanin

The Gold Standard
11-02-2011, 12:18 AM
How can anyone think Dolph is better than The Miz? Would anyone trust Dolph vs The Rock in his return match? I know I wouldn't.

Juan
11-02-2011, 12:54 AM
The-MIZ-HANDSOME

Rock Bottom
11-02-2011, 01:21 PM
How can anyone think Dolph is better than The Miz? Would anyone trust Dolph vs The Rock in his return match? I know I wouldn't.

Uh, yeah?

Anybody Thrilla
11-02-2011, 04:05 PM
Uh, yeah?

I would too. What are you even saying, Gold Standard?

This is difficult. Two of my absolute favorites at the moment. Ziggler has the edge in-ring, but The Miz has gotten pretty damn good in the ring as well. The Miz has the edge on the mic, but Ziggler is getting much better on the mic too. Might have to think about this for a bit.

The Gold Standard
11-02-2011, 06:59 PM
I am saying that it is proof that Miz is better because there are very few people that can be trusted to be in a match with The Rock in his return.

The Gold Standard
11-02-2011, 07:00 PM
To me if The Miz doesn't win this it is a crime.

Supreme Olajuwon
11-02-2011, 07:01 PM
Your opinion is not proof. Nobody's opinion is proof of anything.

Supreme Olajuwon
11-02-2011, 07:04 PM
The last time the Rock returned to the ring he wrestled against Batista. Does that mean Batista is a great wrestler?

#BROKEN Hasney
11-02-2011, 07:12 PM
There is now no point putting current wrestlers against the following people as they are the greatest being allowed to wrestle a match with THE ROCK.

#1 John Cena
#2 The Miz
#3 R-Truth
#4 The Hurricane

The Gold Standard
11-02-2011, 09:36 PM
I am saying it is trust. Trust comes from ability. I believe The Miz has more ability than Ziggler. Give Ziggler a year or 2 and I would have picked him.

Pintint
11-02-2011, 09:37 PM
Hard choice here. I picked Dolph but just barely...Miz is amazing as a character, but I like Dolph better in the ring and he has a really good character as well. The in ring advantage tilted the scale for Ziggler in my case.

Rock Bottom
11-02-2011, 10:33 PM
Whoa, Dolph with a solid comeback from earlier today.

Rollermacka
11-02-2011, 10:46 PM
There is now no point putting current wrestlers against the following people as they are the greatest being allowed to wrestle a match with THE ROCK.

#1 LA Park
#2 The Miz
#3 R-Truth
#4 The Hurricane

:yes:

Kapoutman
11-03-2011, 12:06 AM
I love the way Dolph bumps off everything.

#BROKEN Hasney
11-03-2011, 02:42 AM
Whoa, Dolph with a solid comeback from earlier today.

The hernia he has in the picture has magical powers.

Swiss Ultimate
11-03-2011, 02:08 PM
Miz, obviously. Guy made it big against the odds. You have to respect that.

Rollermacka
11-03-2011, 05:00 PM
I really thought Miz would walk though this one but wow...


I guess there's a lot of Ziggers in this forum :p

#BROKEN Hasney
11-03-2011, 05:25 PM
It's his hypnotic hernia in the picture used that got him the win.

Anybody Thrilla
11-04-2011, 03:06 AM
I was going to vote Miz with the voting swing, but I'm not upset about a Ziggler win. Might just keep voting for Ziggler now.

Supreme Olajuwon
11-04-2011, 11:02 AM
88 votes god damn