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Supreme Olajuwon
11-04-2011, 12:09 PM
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Dolph Ziggler

VS.

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Wade Barrett

3 DAYS

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Guerrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon (44-21)</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option><option>#114. The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair (44-43)</option><option>#115. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Ron Simmons (33-25)</option><option>#116. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Juventud Guerrera (28-19)</option><option>#117. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. The Big Show (25-39)</option><option>#118. The Big Show vs. Sid (50-10)</option><option>#119. The Big Show vs. Lance Storm (18-48)</option><option>#120. Lance Storm vs. Meng (65-7)</option><option>#121. Lance Storm vs. John Cena (53-18)</option><option>#122. Lance Storm vs. Sting (23-50)</option><option>#123. Sting vs. The Ultimate Warrior (57-18)</option><option>#124. Sting vs. Dusty Rhodes (50-24)</option><option>#125. Sting vs. CM Punk (41-32)</option><option>#126. Sting vs. Randy Savage (27-50)</option><option>#127. Randy Savage vs. Jim Duggan (65-7)</option><option>#128. Randy Savage vs. AJ Styles (64-13)</option><option>#129. Randy Savage vs. Booker T (61-16)</option><option>#130. Randy Savage vs. Roddy Piper (55-27)</option><option>#131. Rick Martel vs. Tito Santana (35-29)</option><option>#132. Rick Martel vs. Shane Douglas (29-36)</option><option>#133. Shane Douglas vs. Rhino (35-38)</option><option>#134. Rhino vs. Jeff Jarrett (30-36)</option><option>#135. Jeff Jarrett vs. Mike Rotunda (30-38)</option><option>#136. Mike Rotunda vs. Chris Kanyon (44-24)</option><option>#137. Mike Rotunda vs. Barry Windham (38-17)</option><option>#138. Mike Rotunda vs. Scott Hall (11-63)</option><option>#139. Scott Hall vs. Goldberg (60-17)</option><option>#140. Scott Hall vs. Kevin Nash (47-31)</option><option>#141. Scott Hall vs. Brian Pillman (44-34)</option><option>#142. Scott Hall vs. Edge (26-64)</option><option>#143. Edge vs. Matt Hardy (71-12)</option><option>#144. Edge vs. Arn Anderson (38-34)</option><option>#145. Edge vs. Randy Orton (45-36)</option><option>#146. Edge vs. Triple H (29-47)</option><option>#147. Triple H vs. Batista (65-8)</option><option>#148. Triple H vs. Raven (54-25)</option><option>#149. Triple H vs. Ricky Steamboat (44-43)</option><option>#150. Triple H vs. Eddie Guerrero (43-56)</option><option>#151. Eddie Guerrero vs. Trish Stratus (58-12)</option><option>#152. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Great Muta (47-11)</option><option>#153. Eddie Guerrero vs. Curt Hennig (34-43)</option><option>#154. Curt Hennig vs. Jerry Lawler (63-9)</option><option>#155. Curt Hennig vs. Hulk Hogan (54-17)</option><option>#156. Curt Hennig vs. Christian (47-26)</option><option>#157. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (31-44)</option><option>#158. The Rock vs. Steve Blackman (54-22)</option><option>#159. The Rock vs. Vader (54-14)</option><option>#160. The Rock vs. Mick Foley (48-22)</option><option>#161. The Rock vs. Bret Hart (42-49)</option><option>#162. Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith (70-8)</option><option>#163. Bret Hart vs. Dean Malenko (52-16)</option><option>#164. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (47-18)</option><option>#165. Bret Hart vs. Ric Flair (53-32)</option><option>#166. Barry Darsow vs. Ed Leslie (45-13)</option><option>#167. Barry Darsow vs. Jacques Rougeau (17-38)</option><option>#168. Jacques Rougeau vs. Evan Bourne (18-49)</option><option>#169. Evan Bourne vs. Mr. Anderson (38-16)</option><option>#170. Evan Bourne vs. Bryan Danielson(10-50)</option><option>#171. Bryan Danielson vs. Billy Gunn (56-16)</option><option>#172. Bryan Danielson vs. The Miz (42-26)</option><option>#173. Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Benoit (27-40)</option><option>#174. Chris Benoit vs. Chavo Guerrero (53-8)</option><option>#175. Chris Benoit vs. Perry Saturn (48-13)</option><option>#176. Chris Benoit vs. Lance Storm (36-21)</option><option>#177. Chris Benoit vs. Ted Dibiase (41-34)</option><option>#178. TAKA Michinoku vs. Sho Funaki (51-9)</option><option>#179. TAKA Michinoku vs. Santino Marella (48-9)</option><option>#180. TAKA Michinoku vs. Rey Mysterio (23-41)</option><option>#181. Rey Mysterio vs. Gregory Helms (34-8)</option><option>#182. Rey Mysterio vs. Jeff Hardy (41-18)</option><option>#183. Rey Mysterio vs. Diamond Dallas Page (34-37)</option><option>#184. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Big Boss Man (49-5)</option><option>#185. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Yoshihiro Tajiri (34-18)</option><option>#186. Diamond Dallas Page vs. CM Punk (19-41)</option><option>#187. CM Punk vs. Terry Funk (35-18)</option><option>#188. CM Punk vs. Kane (40-13)</option><option>#189. CM Punk vs. Rob Van Dam (39-22)</option><option>#190. CM Punk vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (39-37)</option><option>#191. Ted DiBiase, Jr. vs. Cody Rhodes (23-36)</option><option>#192. Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust (10-51)</option><option>#193. Goldust vs. Shelton Benjamin (41-22)</option><option>#194. Goldust vs. Rick Rude (21-37)</option><option>#195. Rick Rude vs. Rick Martel (42-6)</option><option>#196. Rick Rude vs. The Big Show (30-15)</option><option>#197. Rick Rude vs. Jake Roberts (26-38)</option><option>#198. Jake Roberts vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield (50-16)</option><option>#199. Jake Roberts vs. Arn Anderson (39-31)</option><option>#200. Jake Roberts vs. Brian Pillman (34-20)</option><option>#201. Jake Roberts vs. Edge (42-28)</option><option>#202. Raven vs. Shane Douglas (45-6)</option><option>#203. Raven vs. R-Truth (39-6)</option><option>#204. Raven vs. Booker T (31-40)</option><option>#205. Booker T vs. Jerry Lawler (37-20)</option><option>#206. Booker T vs. Sheamus (51-11)</option><option>#207. Booker T vs. Christian (21-33)</option><option>#208. Christian vs. Jushin "Thunder" Liger</option><option>#209. Christian vs. Kevin Nash (30-24)</option><option>#210. Christian vs. Randy Orton (41-22)</option><option>#211. Christian vs. Eddie Guerrero (10-66)</option><option>#212. Eddie Guerrero vs. Andre the Giant (55-16)</option><option>#213. Eddie Guerrero vs. Hulk Hogan (47-29)</option><option>#214. Eddie Guerrero vs. Scott Hall (47-18)</option><option>#215. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Rock (28-40)</option><option>#216. The Rock vs. William Regal (39-17)</option><option>#217. The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar (47-13)</option><option>#218. The Rock vs. Sting (31-19)</option><option>#219. The Rock vs. Triple H (40-27)</option><option>#220. Ahmed Johnson vs. Ezekiel Jackson (41-11)</option><option>#221. Ahmed Johnson vs. The Godfather (6-44)</option><option>#222. The Godfather vs. D'Lo Brown (9-42)</option><option>#223. D'Lo Brown vs. Val Venis (29-20)</option><option>#224. D'Lo Brown vs. Mark Henry (36-23)</option><option>#225. D'Lo Brown vs. The Miz (10-46)</option><option>#226. The Miz vs. John Morrison (52-13)</option><option>#227. The Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler (39-49)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>"The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels</option><option>The Undertaker</option><option>"Macho Man" Randy Savage</option><option>Bret "Hitman" Hart</option><option>Chris Benoit</option><option>CM Punk</option><option>Jake "The Snake" Roberts</option><option>The Rock</option></select>

Better Wrestler All Time Records (http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=102087)

Innovator
11-04-2011, 12:27 PM
Dolph Ziggler. Tough but Dolph is the 2nd coming of Curt Hennig.

RiX1024
11-04-2011, 12:54 PM
Toughie, My vote goes to Mr. Ziggler.

Gertner
11-04-2011, 12:58 PM
Ziggler shouldn't have beaten the Miz, but he gets the nod here over Barrett, who is solid as well.

Nicky Fives
11-04-2011, 01:01 PM
Both are the future of the business..... as much as Ziggler is better in the ring, Barrett is better on the mic..... both are great, but Barrett gets my vote by the narrowest of margins....

jskinnyg
11-04-2011, 01:15 PM
Both are the future of the business..... as much as Ziggler is better in the ring, Barrett is better on the mic..... both are great, but Barrett gets my vote by the narrowest of margins....

Normally I would agree with what Nicky says here, but I am actually leaning towards the Zigg this time...

Innovator
11-04-2011, 01:25 PM
Ziggler on Z True LI Story shows he has some ridiculous mic skills

Rock Bottom
11-04-2011, 01:35 PM
Zigg. But I have always liked Barrett.

KaosDarksol
11-04-2011, 02:19 PM
Barrett... Too bad ziggler will win this one

#BROKEN Hasney
11-04-2011, 02:23 PM
Wade for sure, but I can totally understand anyone voting for Ziggler.

screech
11-04-2011, 02:26 PM
Wade for sure, but I can totally understand anyone voting for Ziggler.

Hasney conveyed my point better than I did.

VSG
11-04-2011, 02:29 PM
Wade Bah-utt

Anybody Thrilla
11-04-2011, 02:44 PM
I like this current era match ups. Easier to compare.

Harder to decide, though. I'm voting Ziggler to the HOF, though. Sorry Wade. I love you.

Aguakate
11-04-2011, 02:53 PM
Crazy, but I truly believe Wade Barrett's best main eventing days are behind him...

...Dolph Ziggler hasn't even reached his peak yet, he's on his way there.

Wolfpack423
11-04-2011, 03:43 PM
I voted for Dolph, just because I think he is one of the most solid competitors today. I like his music better too. Wade Barrett is excellent in the ring and on the mic no doubt, and I like that he is slowly getting built up again, but I just think Ziggler is better overall. I would like to see Ziggler move up the card. Have Ryder win the US title and then Ziggler can become one of the perennial front-runners that could win the Royal Rumble and be around the World Title scene early next year. I know he was around the World Title at the beginning of this year, but I think it will be more believable in 2012 as he has built himself up really well. His mic skills are improving well as well. Also, from last poll, Miz has gorwn on me and has been getting better in the ring recently. He's good on the mic (don't think he is one of the best), but definitely one of the better guys on the roster today in that department. Still don't like R-Truth though. Haven't liked him since 2000.

Emperor Smeat
11-04-2011, 03:52 PM
Ziggler.

Both can put on good matches and provide good promos but Ziggler was able to show he can succeed without always requiring Vickie Guerrero for a match or promo.

Barrett is slowly regaining his momentum from the Nexus days but Ziggler is much closer to potential main event status due to his rise mimicking what was done with The Miz 1-2 years earlier.

Ermaximus
11-04-2011, 04:32 PM
Let's all be ready for Lara posting that TPWW is holding Wade Barrett down.

Rammsteinmad
11-04-2011, 07:05 PM
Love both of these guys, but I went with Barrett since I knew Ziggler would win this round and it wouldn't matter anyway. Barrett did something last year that not many people have been able to do, he was instantly thrust from being a nobody to spending half of 2010 feuding with the #1 guy in the company, and he delivered.

Sure, we all hated how the whole Nexus thing turned out in the end, but Barrett none-the-less rose to the occasion and made us all believe this guy was a contender.

How many times over the years have people been thrown into the main event unprepared? How many 'monsters' debuted attacking big stars, only to show they can't actually wrestle, or talk... or do anything? After NXT, Barrett debuted on Raw attacking John Cena, and for the rest of 2010 we accepted him as a legit threat to the WWE. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anyone else who had done that.

Dolph Ziggler is awesome too, though. And clearly either man deserves to win this.

XCaliber
11-04-2011, 07:12 PM
This is a tough one one but i'd have to go with Barrett he's probably one of the few brawlers I have ever liked in the business and he's absolute gold whenever he is on the mic.

Lock Jaw
11-04-2011, 07:17 PM
Ziggler should not have beaten Miz, but I say he beats out Barrett. If they let Barrett keep any sort of steam/momentum from the Nexus angle, he would have easily won.

Also, WTF is up with Dolph's torso? Seriously freaking me out. Torso bulge.

Rammsteinmad
11-04-2011, 07:18 PM
He's still in much better shape than you. :p

Lock Jaw
11-04-2011, 07:31 PM
No doubt. But my torso doesn't have oddly shaped bulges.

Rammsteinmad
11-04-2011, 07:36 PM
My torso is an oddly shaped bulge. :(

Lock Jaw
11-04-2011, 07:45 PM
I am skinny fat.

VSG
11-04-2011, 08:09 PM
I can believe that.

ddpBANG
11-05-2011, 01:47 AM
I'm really starting to like Barrett, but I already really like Ziggles.

Aguakate
11-05-2011, 02:05 AM
No doubt. But my torso doesn't have oddly shaped bulges.

They're called Obliques.

Dude just probably does a lot of "core work".

Skippord
11-05-2011, 03:04 AM
Barrett, cause I'm assuming Ziggler will win by a lot and I love Barrett

Xerzes
11-05-2011, 05:38 AM
Both have a lot of potential. Ziggler's got the advantage of having been on TV for a good bit longer, and occasionally had the chance to show off.

Aguakate
11-05-2011, 02:40 PM
Ziggler's got the advantage of actually having CHARISMA.

Barrett is dull as fuck.

tjmidnight420
11-05-2011, 03:49 PM
Zig Zag. Barrett has done nothing to make me care for his character.

#BROKEN Hasney
11-05-2011, 06:30 PM
Ziggler's got the advantage of actually having CHARISMA.

Barrett is dull as fuck.

You wouldn't know charisma if it snuck up behind you, talked you into bed and it came on your face.

What Would Kevin Do?
11-06-2011, 01:39 AM
#Heel

El Fangel
11-06-2011, 02:39 AM
Wade for sure, but I can totally understand anyone voting for Ziggler.

Juan
11-06-2011, 02:53 AM
Ziggler's got the advantage of actually having CHARISMA.

Barrett is dull as fuck.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

screech
11-06-2011, 10:08 AM
Ziggler's got the advantage of actually having CHARISMA.

Barrett is dull as fuck.

You are a moron.

The Gold Standard
11-06-2011, 07:47 PM
Ziggler shouldn't have beaten the Miz, but he gets the nod here over Barrett, who is solid as well.

This 100%

Aguakate
11-07-2011, 01:05 AM
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

You are a moron.

BRB I'm wrong, and a moron, because I have my own opinion.

BRB I've gotta give in to peer pressure like other people here and agree with everybody.

Supreme Olajuwon
11-07-2011, 01:08 AM
hurry back!

#BROKEN Hasney
11-07-2011, 09:47 AM
I'm not quite sure why he had to leave on either of those things.

BRB I'm totally amazing.

Ermaximus
11-07-2011, 12:10 PM
Screech needs a ratings boost. He's easily breaking away from the pack!

screech
11-07-2011, 05:25 PM
BRB I'm wrong, and a moron, because I have my own opinion.

BRB I've gotta give in to peer pressure like other people here and agree with everybody.

You passing your opinion as fact makes you a moron. Barrett has charisma, lots of it in fact, so you are also wrong.

Don't know what you're on about with peer pressure since you voted with the majority, but okay.