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Ol Dirty Dastard

11-15-2011, 10:40 AM

I find every "smart" fan at one point or another loves to talk shit about Big Sexy. I was one of those smart fans... then I looked back at my childhood, rewatched some stuff and I've changed my tune. Honestly, if you look back at the guys career, he is and was the effing man.

We'll discount his early WCW days because he was just getting his feet wet. But when he started as Diesel, I would say he was an awesome performer. It helped that he had Shawn Michaels as his homeboy, and Scott Hall and Bret Hart to work with initially but let's get serious... during that initial wicked badass heel run as Diesel, Nash was the man. His mannerisms were wicked in the ring, he was actually extremely mobile for a man his size (before the knees started acting up) and he had a general understanding of psychology from working with Michaels. Watch the tag match between the 2 dudes with attitude vs. Jannetty and Ramon, and you'll see what I'm saying. It's not like he blows the roof off the place with his work rate, but he knows how to perform and work the audience.

The reason he got the title was because of how well he was performing. His impending run was shit, because Vince stopped booking him as a badass, and made him Mr. Vanilla babyface, which doesn't work with a man his size. I saw Nash talk about this, and the man had a point. Who's going to take a champ of Nash's size seriously when he's pretty much selling for Damien Demento? It just doesn't work. Then obviously he changes back to the badass after the Hart match which was fucking phenomenal IMO, and it's not like Nash had nothing to do with it. if he was as hopeless as everyone tries to paint him, he woulda held back Hart, and he didn't. He understood what he should be doing in that match and played his part perfectly, and executed what was then his little tweener turn beautifully.

Then the rest of is WWF run was sick. He got over again as a nasty heel like he started as. Great matches with HBK and Taker and performing well all over the map. Had no problem putting guys who had earned it over in these days.

And then there was the nWo and at that point Nash didn't have to really be a good worker but just perform. He was all about making his own money at this point and by god he did a good job of it. The first 18 months of the nWo was flawless. After that he started getting old, and has only popped up when there have been chances to make money. I like him. Not always the best to watch, and sometimes he tries a little too hard to be cool but he's always got quite a presence about him, and I think he is hard done by. He is a definite representative of what my age group likes as a performer. Sex, Drugs and rock and roll, and he didn't take shit from anyone. A little selfish? sure. But in his position, I don't know if i'd want to have put Rey Misterio and Chris Jericho over myself.

And I have to admit, I get a kick seeing him back in the WWE. His angle is kind of dumb, but who between the ages of 23-30 is gonna say they don't mark out a little bit when they see the Jackknife, or hear him come out to the nWo theme?

So.... if you disagree, say your piece. If you agree, say your piece. WAR NASH

Iop

11-15-2011, 10:44 AM

I liked this Kevin Nash better

http://images.wikia.com/prowrestling/images/5/57/KNASH.jpg

He looks like an angry santa.

11-15-2011, 10:54 AM

Don't care baby.

Shisen Kopf

11-15-2011, 11:24 AM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3x13p8DsVQ0/S-ZEHKBNx4I/AAAAAAAABC0/1EY2v8qvGvo/s320/Poochie02.jpg

JimmyMess

11-15-2011, 11:30 AM

This angle is a bit weird, I agree.

I do also hope for a face-run Diesel style. Although that seems like it may never happen.

Corporate CockSnogger

11-15-2011, 11:35 AM

Love Nash. I rolled my eyes when Santino came out on Raw last night, but as soon as I heard the NWO theme it turned the entire segment around for me.

DLVH84

11-15-2011, 11:36 AM

I loved it when he beat up Santino.

weather vane

11-15-2011, 11:40 AM

I fucking LOVE Nash. I just wish the crowd was more into him... pisses me off.

Gertner

11-15-2011, 12:18 PM

LOVE Kevin Nash.

The Jayman

11-15-2011, 12:23 PM

LOVE Big Daddy Cool :shifty:

Londoner

11-15-2011, 12:29 PM

I fucking LOVE Nash. I just wish the crowd was more into him... pisses me off.

Only person that crowd cared about last night was the Rock.

kareru

11-15-2011, 12:35 PM

why isn't he using his Wolfpac theme?
Jimmy hart is with the WWE at the moment isn't he?

or is it teasing an nWo return?

http://pogant316.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/img_265_wwe-smackdown-2002-vince-mcmahon-introduces-nwo-promo.jpg?w=300&h=225

Ol Dirty Dastard

11-15-2011, 12:39 PM

It's funny, I have a buddy who's not a HUGE pro wrestling fan, but he understands somewhat the art form of the product and he often refers to Kevin Nash. lol I always joke about how Nash couldn't work and my buddy always makes the good point of "That's not what Nash was about" and it's true. It's funny that he can note this, and he's not a "smart" fan by any means. It's almost better that way, because he just has a purer understanding of psychology, without knowing what happens backstage.

Nash kind of reminds me of Paulie from Goodfellas, "Paulie moved slow, but that's cuz Paulie didn't have to move for anybody". He also seems like a guy you can have a brew or two with.

teamXtremist

11-15-2011, 01:59 PM

lol nash is old washed up and will probably bust another quad.Just another old washed up never was trying to steal the spotlight

Aguakate

11-15-2011, 02:02 PM

I fucking LOVE Nash. I just wish the crowd was more into him... pisses me off.

This.

WWE just has to push him against the top guys, like Punk, Cena, Del Rio...

Corporate CockSnogger

11-15-2011, 02:03 PM

I did get a bit worried for his quads last night when he quite agilely hopped down from the apron to the floor.

Aguakate

11-15-2011, 02:07 PM

Kevin Nash can still go. And, at times, last night when he was doing his promo with Santino, he did remind me of his WCW days.

WWE should give him a big push. Today's fans will certainly learn to like (or hate) Kevin Nash.

Lock Jaw

11-15-2011, 02:09 PM

He is getting quite the epic beard going on.

Y2Ant

11-15-2011, 02:22 PM

I only really cared about him when he was Super Shredder.

RiX1024

11-15-2011, 02:24 PM

I like Nash but the one thing I really dread is his and Triple H's blowoff match...will be horrible.

Aguakate

11-15-2011, 02:28 PM

Triple H and Nash will do just fine

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Aguakate

11-15-2011, 02:32 PM

RiX1024

11-15-2011, 02:38 PM

That Jackknife was well epic.

Aguakate

11-15-2011, 02:43 PM

jskinnyg

11-15-2011, 03:59 PM

Ol Dirty Dastard

11-15-2011, 04:20 PM

lol Nash is mad washed up but yet he's still the man. lol even tho some of his work is meh, I still will always get a kick out of him. It's called stage presence, and he commands it, no matter how slow he moves.

teamXtremist

11-15-2011, 04:34 PM

Majunior

11-15-2011, 04:36 PM

Nash was at his best (and I use that term loosely) as Diesel. Personally, I've never really been a fan of big guys. Andre the Giant, sure, but most of the others never intrigued me. Also, not a fan of guys who get over solely on charisma.

So yeah, can't say I ever really appreciated Nash's in-ring or on-air stuff. He'd be an excellent backstage person, a mentor, because he does get a lot of things... psychology for one, and he generally has a very sound outlook on the business. I see a wealth of knowledge, and kudos for that.

I just don't want him on my TV.
("Click, click, click...")

Gertner

11-15-2011, 04:42 PM

Eeeeeeeasy there smark.

Jari

11-15-2011, 05:31 PM

There is just about every reason why Nash is someone I shouldn't like but I'm really glad to see him back in the WWE. There is just something naturally entertaining about the guy and I'm really intrigued to see where they go with the angle between him and HHH - later on surely leading to something with Punk.

tjmidnight420

11-15-2011, 05:35 PM

Remember when they called him Big Sexy the giant killer after the original botched powerbomb? Good times. Love the guy.

Malfeitor

11-15-2011, 06:14 PM

lol nash is old washed up and will probably bust another quad.Just another old washed up never was trying to steal the spotlight

You shut your filthy, whorish mouth.

Nash is the fucking man.

Jari

11-15-2011, 06:37 PM

You shut your filthy, whorish mouth.

Nash is the fucking man.
A bitter Hardy Boy fan by the looks of thing tbf.

Aguakate

11-15-2011, 06:38 PM

Remember when they called him Big Sexy the giant killer after the original botched powerbomb? Good times. Love the guy.

I find it weird that Punk never called him "Big Sexy" when they were cutting promos.

JimmyMess

11-15-2011, 06:41 PM

They killed a lot of the Mojo with the music-less entrances earlier.

and the nWo music doesn't really fit because he's not selling this program in that style.

All they need is that Diesel engine start up and the crowd will respond.

Steveviscious89

11-15-2011, 09:22 PM

Well...when you think about what things a wrestler really needs to be a legit top guy, Kevin Nash had all those things. He has the look, he has the charisma, the mic skills, good character, and while his matches have never been particularly fast paced, they served their purpose well.

Mr. C

11-15-2011, 09:36 PM

I’m guessing Kevin Nash vs. Triple-H is being saved for the Royal Rumble.

Lock Jaw

11-15-2011, 10:24 PM

Being saved for 2013.

#BROKEN Hasney

11-16-2011, 12:44 AM

Nash V HHH is what ends the world next year.

Ol Dirty Dastard

11-16-2011, 12:45 AM

LOL Yeah Big Sexy the Giant Killer was roflcopter worthy.

ZosoMetalManiac

11-16-2011, 03:55 AM

Just another old washed up never was trying to steal the spotlight

Never was? :rofl:

Anyway, Nash is awesome. He always entertained me, and that's all anyone can ask for in a wrestler. Really cool dude too.

Haze

11-16-2011, 12:23 PM

Gotta give it up to the big man, Nash has been the goods for a long time.

Can't help but notice that somewhere between TNA and his WWE return, his mic skills took a bit of a dive.

Aguakate

11-16-2011, 12:55 PM

Gotta give it up to the big man, Nash has been the goods for a long time.

Can't help but notice that somewhere between TNA and his WWE return, his mic skills took a bit of a dive.

I don't think that's accurate. I think it's just that WWE hasn't let Nash be Nash. If they let him go out there and do his thing, it will flow like it always has.

Emperor Smeat

11-16-2011, 12:59 PM

He did have a lackluster title reign in the WWF and wasn't that great in the ring but easily made up for it with great promo skills and charisma especially in WCW.

The Jacknife is still one of my favorite finishers and tied with the Awesome Bomb for best version of the powerbomb.

I liked him the most during his Outsiders and nWo Wolf-Pac phase but didn't care much for his time in TNA besides the time he pulled out the upside down chart showing he was the highest money making champion ever in WWF history.

JimmyMess

11-16-2011, 01:06 PM

358 day championship reign, longest from then until 2006.

Not bad.

Aguakate

11-16-2011, 01:08 PM

He DID come a long way...

LOL

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Blakeamus

11-16-2011, 01:12 PM

Yes...he DID come a long way....

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/188/336/OZlol_display_image.jpg?1270189874

Aguakate

11-16-2011, 01:13 PM

Kevin Nash is THE SHIT!

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screech

11-16-2011, 01:15 PM

Oz was awesome.

Blakeamus

11-16-2011, 01:30 PM

They need to add that as an alternate costume on the video game.

teamXtremist

11-16-2011, 08:08 PM

You shut your filthy, whorish mouth.

Nash is the fucking man.

IN 1993

teamXtremist

11-16-2011, 08:09 PM

A bitter Hardy Boy fan by the looks of thing tbf.

BUTT HURT MUCH >!>!

Triple Naitch

11-16-2011, 08:16 PM

Nash is probably my favorite big man ever.

Corporate CockSnogger

11-16-2011, 08:17 PM

Personally I hope he unifies the titles.

Corporate CockSnogger

11-16-2011, 08:17 PM

And I don't just mean the WWE's heavyweight titles, I mean every title in the world.

MoFo

11-16-2011, 10:14 PM

He should be Diesel and not Nash

Diesel at the Rumble was so fucking cool.

Now he just looks like my burnout alcoholic uncle.

Ol Dirty Dastard

11-17-2011, 03:35 PM

yeah it'd be way bosser if he was diesel, but oh well :p

Malfeitor

11-17-2011, 06:29 PM

I marked hard when Nash beat Goldberg at Starrcade. Not going to lie.

Ol Dirty Dastard

11-17-2011, 06:52 PM

Also fuckin love Snake eyessssssSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :cool:

Jordan

11-18-2011, 11:14 AM

Big D will always be a favorite of mine and I will always worry about his brittle legs. However if Trips plays the match smart and in his preperation studies attacks centered around knees and hammies, I think we could see the Bitter Giant fall prey to The Game. Nash in his preperation should watch older matches of Triple H especially those with The Dead Man because of the size similarity, if he studies well and wraps his knees tight I'd say we could have a surprise victory on our hands.

If I were big Kev I'd stop by the trainer room before my match to ensure the best wrapping one can get, for a match with the COO.

Jordan

11-18-2011, 11:18 AM

Also I still don't understand what got into Nash to the point of attempting murder on Triple Han is it really cause he wanted a job at WWE so bad?

Ol Dirty Dastard

11-19-2011, 03:06 AM

hehe these posts remind me of artist_thinker

Theo Dious

11-19-2011, 07:45 AM

Also I still don't understand what got into Nash to the point of attempting murder on Triple Han is it really cause he wanted a job at WWE so bad?

HHH was supposed to be his friend!

Seriously, I think there's still something else coming with this.

tjmidnight420

11-19-2011, 08:31 AM

I hope so, it's seeming pretty pointless right about now.

Aguakate

11-19-2011, 10:13 AM

You've gotta think HBK will show up at some point during this rivalry, so...it'll be ok.

BAH GAWD! TRIPLE H WITH SHAWN MICHAELS IN HIS CORNER AGAINST KEVIN NASH WITH SEAN WALTMAN IN HIS!

WHAT A SLOBBERKNOCKER!

Jordan

11-19-2011, 10:18 AM

I wonder if the outsiders will make a return "wolfpac is back cauzin mass destruction DON'T TURN YOUR BACK ON THE WOLFPACK (you might end up in a body bag)

Aguakate

11-19-2011, 10:20 AM

I wonder if the outsiders will make a return "wolfpac is back cauzin mass destruction DON'T TURN YOUR BACK ON THE WOLFPACK (you might end up in a body bag)

It'd be awesome if they went literal with this, and Undertaker joined the Wolfpac :shifty: