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Supreme Olajuwon
12-13-2011, 04:50 PM
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Curt Hennig

VS.

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Ric Flair

3 DAYS

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Guerrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon (44-21)</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option><option>#114. The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair (44-43)</option><option>#115. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Ron Simmons (33-25)</option><option>#116. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Juventud Guerrera (28-19)</option><option>#117. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. The Big Show (25-39)</option><option>#118. The Big Show vs. Sid (50-10)</option><option>#119. The Big Show vs. Lance Storm (18-48)</option><option>#120. Lance Storm vs. Meng (65-7)</option><option>#121. Lance Storm vs. John Cena (53-18)</option><option>#122. Lance Storm vs. Sting (23-50)</option><option>#123. Sting vs. The Ultimate Warrior (57-18)</option><option>#124. Sting vs. Dusty Rhodes (50-24)</option><option>#125. Sting vs. CM Punk (41-32)</option><option>#126. Sting vs. Randy Savage (27-50)</option><option>#127. Randy Savage vs. Jim Duggan (65-7)</option><option>#128. Randy Savage vs. AJ Styles (64-13)</option><option>#129. Randy Savage vs. Booker T (61-16)</option><option>#130. Randy Savage vs. Roddy Piper (55-27)</option><option>#131. Rick Martel vs. Tito Santana (35-29)</option><option>#132. Rick Martel vs. Shane Douglas (29-36)</option><option>#133. Shane Douglas vs. Rhino (35-38)</option><option>#134. Rhino vs. Jeff Jarrett (30-36)</option><option>#135. Jeff Jarrett vs. Mike Rotunda (30-38)</option><option>#136. Mike Rotunda vs. Chris Kanyon (44-24)</option><option>#137. Mike Rotunda vs. Barry Windham (38-17)</option><option>#138. Mike Rotunda vs. Scott Hall (11-63)</option><option>#139. Scott Hall vs. Goldberg (60-17)</option><option>#140. Scott Hall vs. Kevin Nash (47-31)</option><option>#141. Scott Hall vs. Brian Pillman (44-34)</option><option>#142. Scott Hall vs. Edge (26-64)</option><option>#143. Edge vs. Matt Hardy (71-12)</option><option>#144. Edge vs. Arn Anderson (38-34)</option><option>#145. Edge vs. Randy Orton (45-36)</option><option>#146. Edge vs. Triple H (29-47)</option><option>#147. Triple H vs. Batista (65-8)</option><option>#148. Triple H vs. Raven (54-25)</option><option>#149. Triple H vs. Ricky Steamboat (44-43)</option><option>#150. Triple H vs. Eddie Guerrero (43-56)</option><option>#151. Eddie Guerrero vs. Trish Stratus (58-12)</option><option>#152. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Great Muta (47-11)</option><option>#153. Eddie Guerrero vs. Curt Hennig (34-43)</option><option>#154. Curt Hennig vs. Jerry Lawler (63-9)</option><option>#155. Curt Hennig vs. Hulk Hogan (54-17)</option><option>#156. Curt Hennig vs. Christian (47-26)</option><option>#157. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (31-44)</option><option>#158. The Rock vs. Steve Blackman (54-22)</option><option>#159. The Rock vs. Vader (54-14)</option><option>#160. The Rock vs. Mick Foley (48-22)</option><option>#161. The Rock vs. Bret Hart (42-49)</option><option>#162. Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith (70-8)</option><option>#163. Bret Hart vs. Dean Malenko (52-16)</option><option>#164. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (47-18)</option><option>#165. Bret Hart vs. Ric Flair (53-32)</option><option>#166. Barry Darsow vs. Ed Leslie (45-13)</option><option>#167. Barry Darsow vs. Jacques Rougeau (17-38)</option><option>#168. Jacques Rougeau vs. Evan Bourne (18-49)</option><option>#169. Evan Bourne vs. Mr. Anderson (38-16)</option><option>#170. Evan Bourne vs. Bryan Danielson(10-50)</option><option>#171. Bryan Danielson vs. Billy Gunn (56-16)</option><option>#172. Bryan Danielson vs. The Miz (42-26)</option><option>#173. Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Benoit (27-40)</option><option>#174. Chris Benoit vs. Chavo Guerrero (53-8)</option><option>#175. Chris Benoit vs. Perry Saturn (48-13)</option><option>#176. Chris Benoit vs. Lance Storm (36-21)</option><option>#177. Chris Benoit vs. Ted Dibiase (41-34)</option><option>#178. TAKA Michinoku vs. Sho Funaki (51-9)</option><option>#179. TAKA Michinoku vs. Santino Marella (48-9)</option><option>#180. TAKA Michinoku vs. Rey Mysterio (23-41)</option><option>#181. Rey Mysterio vs. Gregory Helms (34-8)</option><option>#182. Rey Mysterio vs. Jeff Hardy (41-18)</option><option>#183. Rey Mysterio vs. Diamond Dallas Page (34-37)</option><option>#184. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Big Boss Man (49-5)</option><option>#185. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Yoshihiro Tajiri (34-18)</option><option>#186. Diamond Dallas Page vs. CM Punk (19-41)</option><option>#187. CM Punk vs. Terry Funk (35-18)</option><option>#188. CM Punk vs. Kane (40-13)</option><option>#189. CM Punk vs. Rob Van Dam (39-22)</option><option>#190. CM Punk vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (39-37)</option><option>#191. Ted DiBiase, Jr. vs. Cody Rhodes (23-36)</option><option>#192. Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust (10-51)</option><option>#193. Goldust vs. Shelton Benjamin (41-22)</option><option>#194. Goldust vs. Rick Rude (21-37)</option><option>#195. Rick Rude vs. Rick Martel (42-6)</option><option>#196. Rick Rude vs. The Big Show (30-15)</option><option>#197. Rick Rude vs. Jake Roberts (26-38)</option><option>#198. Jake Roberts vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield (50-16)</option><option>#199. Jake Roberts vs. Arn Anderson (39-31)</option><option>#200. Jake Roberts vs. Brian Pillman (34-20)</option><option>#201. Jake Roberts vs. Edge (42-28)</option><option>#202. Raven vs. Shane Douglas (45-6)</option><option>#203. Raven vs. R-Truth (39-6)</option><option>#204. Raven vs. Booker T (31-40)</option><option>#205. Booker T vs. Jerry Lawler (37-20)</option><option>#206. Booker T vs. Sheamus (51-11)</option><option>#207. Booker T vs. Christian (21-33)</option><option>#208. Christian vs. Jushin "Thunder" Liger</option><option>#209. Christian vs. Kevin Nash (30-24)</option><option>#210. Christian vs. Randy Orton (41-22)</option><option>#211. Christian vs. Eddie Guerrero (10-66)</option><option>#212. Eddie Guerrero vs. Andre the Giant (55-16)</option><option>#213. Eddie Guerrero vs. Hulk Hogan (47-29)</option><option>#214. Eddie Guerrero vs. Scott Hall (47-18)</option><option>#215. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Rock (28-40)</option><option>#216. The Rock vs. William Regal (39-17)</option><option>#217. The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar (47-13)</option><option>#218. The Rock vs. Sting (31-19)</option><option>#219. The Rock vs. Triple H (40-27)</option><option>#220. Ahmed Johnson vs. Ezekiel Jackson (41-11)</option><option>#221. Ahmed Johnson vs. The Godfather (6-44)</option><option>#222. The Godfather vs. D'Lo Brown (9-42)</option><option>#223. D'Lo Brown vs. Val Venis (29-20)</option><option>#224. D'Lo Brown vs. Mark Henry (36-23)</option><option>#225. D'Lo Brown vs. The Miz (10-46)</option><option>#226. The Miz vs. John Morrison (52-13)</option><option>#227. The Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler (39-49)</option><option>#228. Dolph Ziggler vs. Wade Barrett (42-21)</option><option>#229. Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena (38-31)</option><option>#230. Dolph Ziggler vs. Lance Storm (38-37)</option><option>#231. Dolph Ziggler vs. Curt Hennig (18-55)</option><option>#233. Curt Hennig vs. Zack Ryder (62-8)</option><option>#234. Curt Hennig vs. Vader (45-14)</option><option>#234. Curt Hennig vs. Owen Hart (38-22)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>"The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels</option><option>The Undertaker</option><option>"Macho Man" Randy Savage</option><option>Bret "Hitman" Hart</option><option>Chris Benoit</option><option>CM Punk</option><option>Jake "The Snake" Roberts</option><option>The Rock</option></select>

Better Wrestler All Time Records (http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=102087)

Corporate CockSnogger
12-13-2011, 04:51 PM
Hennig

Supreme Olajuwon
12-13-2011, 04:51 PM
**Special Bobby "The Brain" Heenan Edition**

Nark Order
12-13-2011, 05:02 PM
Ric Flair due to "come the fuck on" reasons.

Seth82
12-13-2011, 05:05 PM
Ric Flair due to "come the fuck on" reasons.

Ruien
12-13-2011, 05:31 PM
Ric Flair due to "come the fuck on" reasons.

KaosDarksol
12-13-2011, 06:05 PM
Henning flair may have gotten the vote if he stopped wrestling years ago

Nicky Fives
12-13-2011, 06:17 PM
Hennig, Flair may have gotten the vote if he stopped wrestling years ago

El Fangel
12-13-2011, 06:19 PM
Hennig, solely because its not even fair.

St. Jimmy
12-13-2011, 06:21 PM
Hennig is fantastic, but there is no one in their prime who could touch The Naitch.

Gertner
12-13-2011, 06:23 PM
Flair. What the fuck is wrong with youe people!!!

Juan
12-13-2011, 06:40 PM
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

VSG
12-13-2011, 06:40 PM
The curse of the HOF round strikes... again! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

RiX1024
12-13-2011, 07:12 PM
I know Ric Flair is a legend but Hennig has much better ability than Flair so my vote goes to Hennig.

Corporate CockSnogger
12-13-2011, 07:32 PM
Flair bored/bores me like 70% of the time.

whiteyford
12-13-2011, 08:24 PM
I agree with the scouser,was always more interested in who Flair was facing than Flair himself.

Rammsteinmad
12-13-2011, 08:37 PM
Flair is a legend and I respect what he's done, but same as Iginfest and Whiteyford, most of the time I wasn't interested in him, and usually more in his opponent.

Kane Knight
12-13-2011, 08:51 PM
It was actually a tough choice.

Then I remembered the last decade of Flair's work.

Oh, Ric, why didn't you pull a Curt Cobain?

LewisTheTruest
12-13-2011, 10:14 PM
Ric Plane Crash Flair!

Aguakate
12-13-2011, 11:22 PM
Curt Hennig.

Theo Dious
12-13-2011, 11:25 PM
Never been a moment in my life as a wrestling fan that I would rather see Flair than Perfect on my TV.

Gertner
12-13-2011, 11:50 PM
This is ridiculous. There's a reason why Hennig was never a World Champ (AWA doesn't count)

Supreme Olajuwon
12-14-2011, 12:58 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0-Ls7bG1BZU/TX2kG4nD3aI/AAAAAAAAYWk/5WAmHrx56NU/s1600/Bonus%2BPack%2B4.jpg

BizarroKing
12-14-2011, 01:00 AM
Again Hennig but only by a tiny amount.

MVP
12-14-2011, 01:05 AM
Hennig could do anything Flair could have and more. #boldstatement

Lock Jaw
12-14-2011, 01:49 AM
Ric Flair is The Man.

4 knuckles up
12-14-2011, 02:13 AM
Hennig.

Flair pissed on his legacy by out staying his welcome in the ring. Seeing Flair post 2001 was just fucking terrible. Just why he didn't go into commentary, booking, or any sort of non-wrestling on screen personality is beyond me.

FourFifty
12-14-2011, 04:40 AM
Ric Flair due to "come the fuck on" reasons.

FourFifty
12-14-2011, 04:42 AM
Hennig.

Flair pissed on his legacy by out staying his welcome in the ring. Seeing Flair post 2001 was just fucking terrible. Just why he didn't go into commentary, booking, or any sort of non-wrestling on screen personality is beyond me.

Hate to say this but Henning never had a chance to piss on his legacy. It's like saying Nirvana is better than Led Zeplin.

FourFifty
12-14-2011, 04:45 AM
Can I get the kliq to back me up on this? Flair > Henning.

Juan
12-14-2011, 04:45 AM
Curt Hennig

Curt Henning

Skippord
12-14-2011, 08:45 AM
Hennig, by a lot

Skippord
12-14-2011, 08:45 AM
Am I the only person on Earth who can't do the midair gum swat?

GD
12-14-2011, 08:46 AM
Mr. Perfect all the way!

tjmidnight420
12-14-2011, 09:13 AM
Perfect.

Rock Bottom
12-14-2011, 10:19 AM
Kurt HENNIG wins

Anybody Thrilla
12-14-2011, 11:40 AM
All of Flair's past-his-welcome stay was made worth it at Wrestlemania 24.

Blue Demon
12-14-2011, 11:49 AM
Hennig...while I enjoyed some of Flairs work, Hennig could out wrestle Flair and could make a broom stick look good, while Flair was too much of a routine man.

Anybody Thrilla
12-14-2011, 11:53 AM
Please don't trick yourself into thinking that Flair wasn't in some great matches.

This feels so weird to be defending him, as I'm not the biggest Flair fan. Still, I know he should win this.

XCaliber
12-14-2011, 12:40 PM
Hennig for sure Flair was as overrated as they come.

Blue Demon
12-14-2011, 12:44 PM
Please don't trick yourself into thinking that Flair wasn't in some great matches.

This feels so weird to be defending him, as I'm not the biggest Flair fan. Still, I know he should win this.

I'm not saying that Flair wasn't in some good matches....they're just almost all exactly the same.

Gertner
12-14-2011, 01:25 PM
Who did Hennig ever "make"?

When was Hennig ever a top tier guy besides in the late80's with Hogan, but their program didn't draw.

Hennig post Mr. Perfect run in WCW was meh.

Flair is probably the greatest heel in wrestling history. He outdrew Hennig massively, was a better wrestler, singlehandedly kept WCW in business, won just about every title created except for the OCW title which is why he still wrestles, and was 10x better on the mic. You people are fucking retarded.

Lock Jaw
12-14-2011, 01:32 PM
Also, even though he is old and way past his prime, I would still rather watch Ric Flair than half of the current guys in the WWE/TNA.

jskinnyg
12-14-2011, 01:45 PM
I know Ric Flair is a legend but Hennig has much better ability than Flair so my vote goes to Hennig.

Wrong... No one touches the Naitch simply because his heyday way 15 years longer than anyone else in the business... Sadly his TNA stint is a necessary joke...

CSL
12-14-2011, 01:46 PM
Hennig for sure Flair was as overrated as they come.

c'mon son

Innovator
12-14-2011, 01:49 PM
The fact that Hennig is leading does not BRING A TEAR TO MY EYE.

Flair is top 3 all-time. Hennig isn't. This is ricockulous.

Supreme Olajuwon
12-14-2011, 01:49 PM
Seeing the same arguments that we saw during Eddie Guerrero vs Scott Hall.

Let's keep in mind folks, that while a guy may ruin his legacy by actin a fool later in life, he's still better off than the guy who's DEAD.

Emperor Smeat
12-14-2011, 02:04 PM
Flair

VSG
12-14-2011, 02:05 PM
Flair is probably the greatest heel in wrestling history. He outdrew Hennig massively, was a better wrestler, singlehandedly kept WCW in business, won just about every title created except for the OCW title which is why he still wrestles

:rofl:

Kane Knight
12-14-2011, 05:02 PM
Seeing the same arguments that we saw during Eddie Guerrero vs Scott Hall.

Let's keep in mind folks, that while a guy may ruin his legacy by actin a fool later in life, he's still better off than the guy who's DEAD.

It's better to burn out than to fade away.

Though I take your point. If there's ever a "more alive" wrestler, I'm totally gonna vote for Flair over Kert Hemming.

Gertner
12-14-2011, 05:03 PM
Flair is better at living than Curt.

Kane Knight
12-14-2011, 05:04 PM
And actually, that's pretty much the only thing Hall has over Eddie. Not being dead.

Aguakate
12-14-2011, 09:39 PM
In terms of charisma, on the mic, and gimmick, they're pretty much equal, to be honest.

And when we go to actual wrestling ability, and it's not even close...Hennig blows Flair away.

VSG
12-14-2011, 10:06 PM
In terms of charisma, on the mic, and gimmick, they're pretty much equal, to be honest.

:rofl:

Aguakate
12-14-2011, 10:13 PM
Don't laugh. It's true.

VSG
12-14-2011, 10:15 PM
You are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to my smiley.

Gertner
12-14-2011, 10:25 PM
Hennig isn't in Flair's league.

Kane Knight
12-14-2011, 10:29 PM
Hennig isn't in Flair's league.

Hennig blows Flair away.

Wake Up Call
12-14-2011, 11:13 PM
Flair, hands down.

To say Perfect was better than Flair is crazy, oh wait, Rick is in TNA, and we all know what you people think of TNA

Gertner
12-14-2011, 11:19 PM
So was Hennig, and TNA is horseshit.

James Steele
12-14-2011, 11:29 PM
This is fucking ridiculous. Ric Flair is better than Triple H for fucks sake.

Lock Jaw
12-14-2011, 11:35 PM
I don't get the argument that "Ric Flair shat on his legacy".

How does him overstaying past his prime have any effect on your enjoyment of his previous works? Of all the entertainment you got from him?


It's like... I dunno.... saying that just because the new Star Wars Trilogy was shit, that it makes the Original Star Wars Trilogy shit too.

Theo Dious
12-15-2011, 12:50 AM
You know this brings up something that's nagged me for a while; why does there seem to be no love for the Flair/Perfect career-ending match on Raw? I seem to recall that match being pretty damn sweet yet I never see it given any props. The finish with Perfect whipping out the surprise Perfect-Plex and Bobby Heenan going apeshit was fantastic.

Juan
12-15-2011, 12:54 AM
That match is on the Raw 15th Anniversary DVD. It's awesome

Theo Dious
12-15-2011, 01:21 AM
That match is on the Raw 15th Anniversary DVD. It's awesome

Great, now I have to buy that. :mad:

Why isn't it on Perfect's DVD, or either of Flair's???

Theo Dious
12-15-2011, 01:24 AM
LOL Just found it on YouTube. Great quality. Vince McMahon is shilling for the Sci-Fi channel. :rofl:

Aguakate
12-15-2011, 01:39 AM
You know this brings up something that's nagged me for a while; why does there seem to be no love for the Flair/Perfect career-ending match on Raw? I seem to recall that match being pretty damn sweet yet I never see it given any props. The finish with Perfect whipping out the surprise Perfect-Plex and Bobby Heenan going apeshit was fantastic.

The Bret Hart/Mr Perfect match at Summerslam was awesome, too.

4 knuckles up
12-15-2011, 03:03 AM
I don't get the argument that "Ric Flair shat on his legacy".

How does him overstaying past his prime have any effect on your enjoyment of his previous works? Of all the entertainment you got from him?


It's like... I dunno.... saying that just because the new Star Wars Trilogy was shit, that it makes the Original Star Wars Trilogy shit too.

I get your point, but at the same time, when I compare any two wrestlers for something like this- I have to weigh up their good points and bad points.

To use your Star Wars analogy, it would be like saying the whole franchise was amazing, but ignoring the new trilogy and shitty spin-offs...

Theo Dious
12-15-2011, 03:05 AM
The Bret Hart/Mr Perfect match at Summerslam was awesome, too.

Maybe I'm overexposed to it for owning FIVE DVDS that it appears on (Count them: the actual SummerSlam DVD, Bret's DVD, the Hart Family DVD, the IC Title DVD, and Perfect's DVD, and there's probably more!) but that match doesn't do much for me. It was definitely a great match, but to me Bret had many better matches; Bret vs Davey in Wembley, Bret vs Piper at WM8, and Bret vs Owen at WMX all spring to mind.) Granted, it may have been due to Pefect being banged up that it wasn't more than it could have been, but my favorite part of that match has always been this exchange:

Monsoon: Concerned look on the face of Stu and Helen Hart as they watch.
Heenan: You know why they're concerned? They snuck in! They scared the usher will find them!

Ok not really my favorite, and it was a great match, but it's definitely a bit overpublished.

#BROKEN Hasney
12-15-2011, 03:26 AM
3 Gertner accounts have voted for Flair and Hennig is still 3 in front.

Gertner
12-15-2011, 09:16 AM
3 Gertner accounts have voted for Flair and Hennig is still 3 in front.

Somebody must have hacked into my accounts and did this!

Kane Knight
12-15-2011, 09:17 AM
I don't get the argument that "Ric Flair shat on his legacy".

How does him overstaying past his prime have any effect on your enjoyment of his previous works? Of all the entertainment you got from him?


It's like... I dunno.... saying that just because the new Star Wars Trilogy was shit, that it makes the Original Star Wars Trilogy shit too.

Aaaand if you're evaluating the whole series, you have to look at both.

Similarly, the Indiana Jones series takes a hit from Crystal Skull, and depending on who you are Temple of Doom. Nobody would claim these series were flawless by ignoring the clunkers.

You may have spent years being entertained by Star Wars, but if you were to call the series as a whole brilliant, you'd probably be laughed at by anyone with any ability to reason.

Which is why the same really should hold true for Flair. And why your logic falls flat. I know Gertie's just playing his gimmick, but you actually seemed to put a kernel of thought into it.

Is Jurassic Park a movie that stands the test of time and remains excellent? Yes. Is the Jurassic Park franchise? Fuck no.

Apply the same critical standards to Flair and....

Lock Jaw
12-15-2011, 12:46 PM
And I will still vote for him over Hennig.

Gertner
12-15-2011, 12:52 PM
Hennig wasn't very good or relevant after he left the WWF

Kane Knight
12-15-2011, 01:03 PM
Hennig wasn't very good or relevant after he left the WWF

You just hate him because he's underground.

...I feel dirty.

Gertner
12-15-2011, 01:08 PM
No way man! I was a fan before he was even famous! But now he's just trendy and sold out!

Innovator
12-15-2011, 01:32 PM
HE WAS AWESOME IN THE AWA WHEN HE WENT TO WWF HE WAS TOO WATERED DOWN AND DIDN'T COMPLETE HIS MOVESET AND HIS WORKRATE DROPPED.

Gertner
12-15-2011, 01:39 PM
His match with Greg Gagne was 6 stars! Waaaaaay better than the "sports entertainment" crap that we are force fed today!

KIRA
12-15-2011, 03:21 PM
Ive only just really gotten to see Mr.Perfects work and I love it Flair is entertaining and all but hes such a shell and a prime example of what not to do

at his age he should be in wrestling cause he loves it not because he has to pay off his next ex wife.

I say Hennig

Ermaximus
12-15-2011, 03:29 PM
What the fuck?

Aguakate
12-15-2011, 04:05 PM
Hennig wasn't very good or relevant after he left the WWF

He wasn't all that bad in WCW. He was US Champion and I don't know what else.

Also:

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Anybody Thrilla
12-15-2011, 06:28 PM
Hennig was completely underwhelming in WCW. We don't really want to compare his tenure there to Ric Flair's, do we?

Theo Dious
12-16-2011, 12:14 AM
He wasn't all that bad in WCW. He was US Champion and I don't know what else.

He was a Horseman at some point wasn't he?

Supreme Olajuwon
12-16-2011, 12:41 AM
Ya, he was part of a really heartful promo by Arn Anderson where Arn gave Hennig his spot in the Horsemen. Then Hennig joined the nWo at Fall Brawl.

Supreme Olajuwon
12-16-2011, 12:45 AM
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Juan
12-16-2011, 12:57 AM
Not my dog, Spot

SlickyTrickyDamon
12-16-2011, 01:46 AM
I like not having every match be the same old shit. So, here is your winner MR. PERFECT! If Flair wasn't the big fish in the little pond for so long he wouldn't have been as over. It was the right place and the right time.

weather vane
12-16-2011, 01:50 AM
awful voting here

Seth82
12-16-2011, 02:08 AM
it's pathetic that Hennig is winning this

Flair could fucking wrestle a broom and have a great match

you guys need to watch Flair during his prime in the 80s

He made Steamboat and Sting

Lock Jaw
12-16-2011, 02:16 AM
Another classic "be ashamed of TPWW" moment brought to you by "Better Wrestler".


HOW DARE 44 PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAN ME. :mad: :foc:

Juan
12-16-2011, 03:03 AM
I like not having every match be the same old shit.

This is the lamest excuse.

Show me a wrestler who doesn't do the same moves every time he wrestles

Kane Knight
12-16-2011, 10:30 AM
it's pathetic that Hennig is winning this

Flair could fucking wrestle a broom and have a great match

you guys need to watch Flair during his prime in the 80s

He made Steamboat and Sting


HOW DARE 44 PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAN ME. :mad: :foc:

BodySlam
12-16-2011, 11:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOm4WYu6tqg&feature=related

Nark Order
12-16-2011, 12:10 PM
This is NOT Ric Flair vs Curt Hennig, btw. This is Ric Flair vs Dead Curt Hennig. If both were alive or if both were deceased, there is no possible way Curt Hennig would go over Ric Flair. Come the fuck on.

Kane Knight
12-16-2011, 12:24 PM
QQ

Nark Order
12-16-2011, 12:40 PM
Can you make it anymore obvious that you are a fat troll?

Iop
12-16-2011, 01:14 PM
Curt Henning wins because his hair looks like a dish of pasta!

Anybody Thrilla
12-16-2011, 03:25 PM
Curt Henning wins because his hair looks like a dish of pasta!

Sadly, this reasoning makes just as much sense as a lot of other reasoning in this thread.

I know this is all opinion based, and we're all entitled to our own. I love Curt Hennig's work. That said, some of you are dumb as fuck. Just saying.

Anybody Thrilla
12-16-2011, 03:27 PM
How dare Ric Flair still be wrestling to this day?!?!?! He should have died from drugs like Mr. Perfect!

whiteyford
12-16-2011, 03:38 PM
Wasnt it a heart attack? :shifty:

Innovator
12-16-2011, 03:41 PM
Remember people, Perfect was fired from WWE again because they saw he was going to fuck up Brock Lesnar's career.

Anybody Thrilla
12-16-2011, 03:57 PM
On February 10, 2003, Hennig was found dead in a Florida hotel room. He was 44 years old. The Hillsborough County Medical Examiner's Office declared acute cocaine intoxication to be the cause of his death.[27] His father said that steroids and painkillers also contributed to his death.

Anybody Thrilla
12-16-2011, 03:58 PM
I guess that's a LITTLE better than STILL FUCKING WRESTLING.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to come down on Mr. Perfect for the way he went out, but for people to hold Flair STILL WRESTLING against him and ignoring the other side of it is flat out ridiculous.

Kane Knight
12-16-2011, 04:36 PM
How dare Ric Flair still be wrestling to this day?!?!?! He should have died from drugs like Mr. Perfect!

Now, now, nobody's asking him to OD.

A car wreck would have been fine. :p

Anybody Thrilla
12-16-2011, 04:38 PM
He tried plane crash, but I guess he wussed out at the last minute.

MoFo
12-16-2011, 04:38 PM
Perfect was boring, Flair doing mad promos was better..

Show me anything Hennig did that was funnier than Flair in the musical chairs segment on teh Raw 15th anniversary DVD

Graveler
12-16-2011, 04:53 PM
Perfect was boring, Flair doing mad promos was better..

Show me anything Hennig did that was funnier than Flair in the musical chairs segment on teh Raw 15th anniversary DVD

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xwcPBTsvS00" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ric Flair knows how to treat a lady

Anybody Thrilla
12-16-2011, 04:58 PM
:heart::heart::heart:

Love that segment

Kane Knight
12-16-2011, 04:59 PM
He tried plane crash, but I guess he wussed out at the last minute.

See? That's why Hamming's the man. No backing out on his death.

XCaliber
12-17-2011, 12:40 AM
It's official TPWW is not Flair country. :p

Juan
12-17-2011, 12:42 AM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xwcPBTsvS00" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ric Flair knows how to treat a lady

Easily one of the worst moments in WWE imo. Cringe-worthy city

SlickyTrickyDamon
12-17-2011, 06:22 AM
It saddens me that people are more upset with Perfect beating Flair than Perfect beating Owen. Owen Hart is a much better athlete and performer than Flair was. All Flair did better was talk.

Perfect's ability to talk along with his skills in the ring made him just as good as Flair was. Flair was just pushed harder than Perfect was nothing more. Perfect was in the WWF with way too much other talent around. Flair was the big man on campus and alligned himself with the only people close to him skill wise except for Sting and Dusty. He then killed Lex Luger's push in 1988/1989 and then left the company rather than putting him over in 1991. Not saying Lex was that good but he deserved a run as champion way before he did as a babyface.

Juan
12-17-2011, 06:24 AM
lol

Supreme Olajuwon
12-17-2011, 09:27 AM
Lex Luger is like the worst ever.

Aguakate
12-17-2011, 03:24 PM
A car wreck would have been fine. :p

Oddly enough, nowadays Ric Flair IS a car wreck.

Anybody Thrilla
12-17-2011, 07:56 PM
Lex Luger fucking blew. Shut up, Damon.

Theo Dious
12-17-2011, 09:10 PM
This is NOT Ric Flair vs Curt Hennig, btw.

Horseshit. Flair has been dead to TPWW for years.

SlickyTrickyDamon
12-18-2011, 07:19 AM
Lex Luger fucking blew. Shut up, Damon.

He was over as fuck.

Kane Knight
12-18-2011, 02:50 PM
Oddly enough, nowadays Ric Flair IS a car wreck.

Yeah, but you can't hold that against him!

Nicky Fives
12-19-2011, 08:05 PM
This is NOT Ric Flair vs Curt Hennig, btw. This is Ric Flair vs Dead Curt Hennig. If both were alive or if both were deceased, there is no possible way Curt Hennig would go over Ric Flair. Come the fuck on.

If Hennig were alive and still tarnishing his legacy by competing while having man breasts, I would tend to agree.....

Kane Knight
12-19-2011, 10:55 PM
If Hennig were alive and still tarnishing his legacy by competing while having man breasts, I would tend to agree.....

Or if both of them were dead, because you know the Naitch is gonna go out surrounded by blow and hookers.

Kane Knight
12-19-2011, 10:55 PM
I mean, not many wrestlers can compete with that.

Holy shit, I just got a "please try again in 0 seconds" message. :wtf:

Ice Cream Bar
12-20-2011, 09:58 AM
My nigga Henigga