Explain how "money in the bank" is good for wrestling

[ChrisHarvard01]

...

[Aguakate]

LOL

Dude, WHAT?!

[Juan]

Here we go...

[owenbrown]

Is this guy for real?

[Xero]

Brother.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hi Gertner.</font> :wave:

[El Fangel]

I have no idea whatsoever this guy is trying to talk about.

[VSG]

New new new new new world order...

[#1-norm-fan]

Every two child did, I will.

[ChrisHarvard01]

VSG is the only one to ruminate a rational thought so far.

But what the heck do I know; when you're nWo, you're nWo for life brother.

[Juan]

Oh, you have a gimmick. That's adorable

[Droford]

The Money in the Bank winner should just be able to take the belt away from the current champion at any point they wish. The hook to this stipulation is that they have to defend it immediately against the former champion in a match and if they lose the title back they're not allowed another title shot for 1 year.

[ChrisHarvard01]

It's not really a gimmick. More like a slogan. And I should tell you, I didn't come up with it ;)
but thanks for answering my question, Juan!

[ChrisHarvard01]

The Money in the Bank winner should just be able to take the belt away from the current champion at any point they wish. The hook to this stipulation is that they have to defend it immediately against the former champion in a match and if they lose the title back they're not allowed another title shot for 1 year.

thanks for your feedback. :y:

[Juan]

A wise man told me "don't argue with fools 'cause people from a distance can't tell who is who"

[owenbrown]

where's my banhammer at? I always lose the damn thing

[ChrisHarvard01]

Juan, this isn't a personal attack on you or anything. It will be ok! :)

[Juan]

Ok, well now I feel better

[Razzamajazz]

two indy shmucks didn't so bad

[ChrisHarvard01]

LoL Razza you're right.

[El Fangel]

I am this thread and chris benoit murdered his family.

[James Steele]

Who the fuck are you to question anything Triple H does? You are a human dried piece of shit stuck to the hair on a dog's ass and your opinion doesn't fucking matter to anyone but your blowup doll and pet rock.

[ChrisHarvard01]

...

[Ice Cream Bar]

I think it was initially a great idea. It was like a mini Royal Rumble and it added an element of surprise when it first started which was during a time of long title reigns and a feeling of no surprises (this is 2005-2007 which was not too far removed from the Attitude Era which was full of surprises). But over time they started doing the same thing and now its become repetitive and lost its charm.

[The MAC]

money in the sperm bank business.

[Cuzziebro]

I had a great response typed out but after re-reading the topic I can't be bothered playing along.

[Tom Guycott]

Here we go...

Is this guy for real?

Sadly, I read these back to back posts in Booker T's voice. Also added "Cole" somewhere in there.

[Providence Peep]

But what the heck do I know; when you're nWo, you're nWo for life brother.

Explain how ending all your posts like this is good for anyone who has to read it.

Did you know Kevin Nash tore his quad while he was walking to the ring last night? :shifty:

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Apparently Pope Benedict is NWO 4-Life.

[Steveviscious89]

Good grief guys can we actually have a thread that discusses something anymore? I can barely bring myself to post here anymore because every time I read a thread it's filled with moronic, trollish replies. What the heck happened to this place? And another thing, I'm sick to death of the IWC swinging from the indy guys' nutsacks. Here's reality...THEY AREN'T THAT GOOD!!! Both of your current champions in WWE look as though they can be broken in half by a decent size high school football player for gawd sakes.

To answer the OP's question, I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense either except for the fact that the champ just went through a match right then and may not have the strength to defend again. However, there should be a rematch clause absolutely.

[Providence Peep]

there should be a rematch clause absolutely.

Is a rematch clause like a Santa Clause?

http://dustysdemotivationals.yolasite.com/resources/demotiv_nash.jpg

I think this thread became a joke the moment the tread was started...
Because when you're nWo, you're nWo for life brother.

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[Corporate CockSnogger]

Blind leading the blind.

[CSL]

Good grief guys can we actually have a thread that discusses something anymore? I can barely bring myself to post here anymore because every time I read a thread it's filled with moronic, trollish replies. What the heck happened to this place?

The first post is pretty stupid and the guy is new. Cue Iginfest's previous post. But let's not pretend this is a new thing

[James Steele]

Good grief guys can we actually have a thread that discusses something anymore? I can barely bring myself to post here anymore because every time I read a thread it's filled with moronic, trollish replies. What the heck happened to this place? And another thing, I'm sick to death of the IWC swinging from the indy guys' nutsacks. Here's reality...THEY AREN'T THAT GOOD!!! Both of your current champions in WWE look as though they can be broken in half by a decent size high school football player for gawd sakes.

To answer the OP's question, I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense either except for the fact that the champ just went through a match right then and may not have the strength to defend again. However, there should be a rematch clause absolutely.

Then fucking leave you self-righteous mutant twat.

[Providence Peep]

You know TPWW is going downhill when Steveviscious89, who has posted here a whole
326 times, can barely bring himself to post here anymore. We should all be ashamed of
ourselves.

[Indifferent Clox]

Just how stevilicious is this Guy?

[Providence Peep]

Just how stevilicious is this Guy?

All I know about him is that he can barely bring himself to post here anymore because every time he reads a thread it's filled with moronic, trollish replies.

Oh, and in case anyone cares, he's sick to death of the IWC swinging from the indy guys' nutsacks.

[Captain of Fun]

Fuckin' muties

[dhellova guy]

Chris Harvard made my day. I was just going to drink my sorrows away, but this thread was enough to make me lose enough brain cells for one day. Thanks!

And WCW is dead. Deal with it.

[Hanso Amore]

FYI, Your 96 date for that match is horribly off. By several years.

Clash 16 was in 1991.

Marcus Bagwell and Too COld beat Roma and Wonderful in 1994. At Clash 26.

[Hanso Amore]

See, we can have "serious" posts here.

That said, OP is either a fucking sock or Mutie, either way he should be dispatched with extreme prejudice.

[Volare]

Burn him at the stake.

[Kane Knight]

See, we can have "serious" posts here.

That said, OP is either a fucking sock or Mutie, either way he should be dispatched with extreme prejudice.

Poe's law. It applies to wrestling freaks, too.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

BTW Too Cold Scorpio Paul Roma weren't employed by WCW in 1996. Roma was fired in 1995 for not putting over Alex Wright and Scorpio was released in 1994.

So you must be a fan of Marcus Bagwell because of:

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THE AMERICAN MALES!

\O/ /O\ \O/ /O\ \O/ /O\

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

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We gonna step!

[Kane Knight]

I remember watching Stone Cold fight Vince McMahon when I was young back in 1985.

[Steveviscious89]

So how many posts does it take for my whole rant to actually mean something? I've been reading stuff here a heck of a lot more than I've posted over the years. I don't know if the majority of posters here are just young and stupid or old and...stupid. Either way, there's no other way to describe it except to say that it is pathetic. You're not contributing to anything except the continuing idea that people who watch wrestling are retarded, which we all know isn't true. But if you came to this forum, it would be hard to make an argument against it. Maybe you could all quit being dickheads and actually make yourselves sound intelligent for once. As for me, I suppose I don't need to post here anymore. Sorry to anyone here who actually does provide real contributions.

[CSL]

a lot of people that watch wrestling are completely fucking retarded. That absolutely is true. TPWW is a pretty accurate representation.

[Gertner]

Wrestling is serious fucking business.

[Shisen Kopf]

Wrestling is serious fucking business.

that is too true. It is very very very very serious. But its not art. The only thing though, its RASSLIN' bro. RASSLIN!

[Gertner]

I miss the days when the RASSLIN was about the RASSLIN

[Shisen Kopf]

Rasslin was so cool, everyone had a dumb gimmick and the Shockmaster was the most electrifying rassler ever not the Rock. But now there are so many fartknockers who are WWE fans, with all the twitter crap and all that garbage. Give me cheatum the midget any day over Hornswoggle. Thats rasslin!

[Captain of Fun]

So how many posts does it take for my whole rant to actually mean something? I've been reading stuff here a heck of a lot more than I've posted over the years. I don't know if the majority of posters here are just young and stupid or old and...stupid. Either way, there's no other way to describe it except to say that it is pathetic. You're not contributing to anything except the continuing idea that people who watch wrestling are retarded, which we all know isn't true. But if you came to this forum, it would be hard to make an argument against it. Maybe you could all quit being dickheads and actually make yourselves sound intelligent for once. As for me, I suppose I don't need to post here anymore. Sorry to anyone here who actually does provide real contributions.


Jesus titties, calm down.

TPWW is about half serious wrestling discussion, and half screwing around.

Part of that means ripping into new guys who are clearly trying too hard, like our friend Mr. Harvard over there.

You should also keep in mind that it is all in good fun. You make too much of a fuss over it, like you seem to be doing, and you'll just paint a target on yourself.

[Shisen Kopf]

Mr. of fun is right you know. Sometimes not taking things seriously is serious business

[itsmeJD]

Serious talk is for Lara Emily and the Discussion forum! Sometimes I stumble in there by mistake when I'm trying to go to Casual....confuses the shit out of me until I realize where I am.

[Shisen Kopf]

Serious talk is for Lara Emily and the Discussion forum! Sometimes I stumble in there by mistake when I'm trying to go to Casual....confuses the shit out of me until I realize where I am.

his real name is Larry Emilio

[Gertner]

his real name is Larry Emilio

How people don't know Frankenstein's name is amazing to me.

[Shisen Kopf]

he choppy choppy, his pee pee!!

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that's pretty much how larry's surgery went down!

[itsmeJD]

It's not that I didn't know the correct name, but in the serious business that is pro rasslin, we call each other by our rasslin screen names! Plus, Larry is a horrible name reserved for child molesters..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Aside from getting the WCW references wr

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Aside from getting the WCW references wrong (Hogan pushed Wight off the building brooooo), he's not THAT wrong.

[itsmeJD]

Were you stuttering Supreme?

[Captain of Fun]

Supreme seems to be malfunctioning.

[Captain of Fun]

Aside from getting the WCW references wrong (Hogan pushed Wight off the building brooooo), he's not THAT wrong.

Except he never really bothered to go into detail as to why it's bad either.

Saying it's unacceptable, as if it were a real sport or something.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Surprised nobody made a concussion joke yet with the guy's screename being Chris Harvard.

[Kane Knight]

I miss the days when the RASSLIN was about the RASSLIN

I think you mean artistic combat.

Orrrr....

Serious talk is for Lara Emily and the Discussion forum! Sometimes I stumble in there by mistake when I'm trying to go to Casual....confuses the shit out of me until I realize where I am.

Lara Emily...Autistic combat.


Jesus titties, calm down.

TPWW is about half serious wrestling discussion, and half screwing around.

Part of that means ripping into new guys who are clearly trying too hard, like our friend Mr. Harvard over there.

You should also keep in mind that it is all in good fun. You make too much of a fuss over it, like you seem to be doing, and you'll just paint a target on yourself.

Never thought I'd see "Captain of Fun" being the one to break the fourth wall.

[Kane Knight]

Surprised nobody made a concussion joke yet with the guy's screename being Chris Harvard.

Because nobody remembers who Chris Nowinski even was.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Except he never really bothered to go into detail as to why it's bad either.

Saying it's unacceptable, as if it were a real sport or something.

That's true. You're so smart.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

that probably came off as condescending but it wasn't

[Kane Knight]

Maybe you should have used [not condescending] tags.

Or just #notcondescending.

[Providence Peep]

that is too true. It is very very very very serious. But its not art. The only thing though, its RASSLIN' bro. RASSLIN!

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[Providence Peep]

Wrestling is serious fucking business.

http://www.allwwewrestlers.com/Lance_Storm.jpg
DAMN RIGHT.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Great joke Providence Pete.

[Iop]

It lets u make a credible title win without doing any work to build up a guy to world title status

[dingdongyo]

money in the bank is fun. it's a swerve and a pop at the same time. these are things i enjoy.

The Money in the Bank winner should just be able to take the belt away from the current champion at any point they wish. The hook to this stipulation is that they have to defend it immediately against the former champion in a match and if they lose the title back they're not allowed another title shot for 1 year.

this is the same thing it is now. you just want to call the other guy the champion before the match. and the one year thing is unnecessary. did i miss a joke or something?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It lets u make a credible title win without doing any work to build up a guy to world title status

Without doing any work? They had to book him in the ladder match and have him win it. That's work for Daniel Bryan and the faith WWE showed in him. Smackdown only gets one briefcase. Now both briefcases have been cashed in there is no "what if he cashes in" moments until next July.

They have been building Daniel Bryan around the World title before this anyways. He competed for the World Heavyweight Championship on Smackdown two weeks ago.

[Captain of Fun]

Yeah, saying it's lazy on creative's part isn't really accurate, because it's not like winning MITB makes that person a main eventer.

Jack Swagger, anybody?

They still have to build the person up to the win, as well as afterwords. Something they didn't do with the Swag, and that's why a lot of people forget he was ever champ.

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, saying it's lazy on creative's part isn't really accurate, because it's not like winning MITB makes that person a main eventer.

Jack Swagger, anybody?

They still have to build the person up to the win, as well as afterwords. Something they didn't do with the Swag, and that's why a lot of people forget he was ever champ.

Kind of makes a persuasive argument that it is lazy, since creative thought they could do that (and did that) without anything.

Saying it's not lazy because if they do other stuff it can work is kind of ridiculous.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Yeah but they knew they had TWO more Money In the Bank's that year already set up. So they thought they'd take a bit of a risk on it. Hell they didn't even plan on having Money in the Bank at WrestleMania that year until a few weeks before.

[Kane Knight]

Yeah but they knew they had TWO more Money In the Bank's that year already set up. So they thought they'd take a bit of a risk on it. Hell they didn't even plan on having Money in the Bank at WrestleMania that year until a few weeks before.

You're trying to backdoor justify things. I will not stand for these backdoor shenanigans.

[Kane Knight]

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[dexnall]

this is to the mark who started this thread, how the hell can you call your self a fan, at first yes show couldnt wrestle, e.b. saw a hugh man to throw at hogan to get buyrates but his dedication to learn the art of the big man is only matches by "in my opinion" Andre, Bam Bam Bigalow, and honestly kevin nash. Mark Henry as well i can say has erned his one title reign in a decade and a half. i think u sir are a high spot monkey that watches sports entertainment instead of pro wrestling.

To answer the MITB ?, it serves as a built in swerve because in most cases u are somewhat suprised at the time they are cashed in. again my opinion.

[Providence Peep]

this is to the mark who started this thread, how the hell can you call your self a fan, at first yes show couldnt wrestle, e.b. saw a hugh man to throw at hogan to get buyrates but his dedication to learn the art of the big man is only matches by "in my opinion" Andre, Bam Bam Bigalow, and honestly kevin nash. Mark Henry as well i can say has erned his one title reign in a decade and a half. i think u sir are a high spot monkey that watches sports entertainment instead of pro wrestling.

To answer the MITB ?, it serves as a built in swerve because in most cases u are somewhat suprised at the time they are cashed in. again my opinion.

WHAT?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Yes, Kane I was trying to use logic to explain things. I see where I went wrong now. :shifty:

[Providence Peep]

I remember watching Stone Cold fight Vince McMahon when I was young back in 1985.

Yeah, but do you remember the birth of Hulkamania when Hulk Hogan beat The Iron Sheik for the WWF Championship at Madison Square Garden in 1996?

[dexnall]

u heard me lol

[Providence Peep]

u heard me lol

But you were typing gibberish and I have no idea what you wrote.

[Ice Cream Bar]

Money in the bank is gay as fuck now. It makes the champ even LESS credible than not winning the title at all

[Ice Cream Bar]

It's better to never be WWE or World Champion than to win it with MITB

[Kane Knight]

this is to the mark who started this thread, how the hell can you call your self a fan, at first yes show couldnt wrestle, e.b. saw a hugh man to throw at hogan to get buyrates but his dedication to learn the art of the big man is only matches by "in my opinion" Andre, Bam Bam Bigalow, and honestly kevin nash. Mark Henry as well i can say has erned his one title reign in a decade and a half. i think u sir are a high spot monkey that watches sports entertainment instead of pro wrestling.

To answer the MITB ?, it serves as a built in swerve because in most cases u are somewhat suprised at the time they are cashed in. again my opinion.

That's right, show him his post was retarded by making an even more retarded one!

Yes, Kane I was trying to use logic to explain things. I see where I went wrong now. :shifty:

Using logic that completely undercuts the whole reason it was up for discussion in the first place, really. Kinda a Pyrrhic victory, really.

You're also using more assumption than actual logic. There's using logic to come to a conclusion, and there's distorting it to justify why it's okay that your husband beats you.

Yeah, but do you remember the birth of Hulkamania when Hulk Hogan beat The Iron Sheik for the WWF Championship at Madison Square Garden in 1996?

I wasn't born yet. :'(

u heard me lol

Well, yes. We heard some petulant child screaming at the internet via flailing his hands at the keyboard. Words even came out. Sometimes.

[Gertner]

The level of posters on this site has never been worse.

[Kane Knight]

The level of posters on this site has never been worse.

It's been going downhill since the internet got popular.

[Volare]

Does that mean a stoner's mentality is now higher than the new generation of posters?

[tjmidnight420]

Does that mean a stoner's mentality is now higher than the new generation of posters?

By and large, yes. Nothing wrong with that though V.

[Aguakate]

I'm not going to lie, I mark out like a bitch when a MITB winner cashes in and wins either of the two World Titles.

Some more than others (Alberto Del Rio, Miz), but still.

[Providence Peep]

http://me.khpop.com/sites/default/files/images/galleries/3798/wrestlinggonewrong.jpg

Explain how this is good for wrestling.

[Aguakate]

http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a97229_g139_10-smell.jpg

Explain how this is good for wrestling.


Well, a red "x" is NEVER good or wrestling...or anything else.

[ChrisHarvard01]

Money in the bank is gay as fuck now. It makes the champ even LESS credible than not winning the title at all


:y:

[ChrisHarvard01]

Good grief guys can we actually have a thread that discusses something anymore? I can barely bring myself to post here anymore because every time I read a thread it's filled with moronic, trollish replies. What the heck happened to this place? And another thing, I'm sick to death of the IWC swinging from the indy guys' nutsacks. Here's reality...THEY AREN'T THAT GOOD!!! Both of your current champions in WWE look as though they can be broken in half by a decent size high school football player for gawd sakes.

To answer the OP's question, I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense either except for the fact that the champ just went through a match right then and may not have the strength to defend again. However, there should be a rematch clause absolutely.



I know you TPWW guys have earned your stripes here on the forums; here on the internet.



Steve Viscious has less than 500 posts, how dare that asshole post here at TPWW.




The QUALITY OF POSTING HAS GONE WAY DOWN OVER THE YEARS. JUST LOOK IN THIS THREAD, IF ONLY STEVE COULD POST LIKE THESE OTHER GUYS. :p




But he's absolutely correct in stating this whole place is full of trolls that can't have an intelligent conversation. Rip me for saying I'm nWo for life, they didn't even have that big of impact on wrestling-- DX..... HHH revolutionized wrestling, not the nWo :lol:


but it's all fun! Wrestling is fun. I'm cool with the Christopher Nowinski jokes, too. It's all in good fun, but I'd like to get a few superior responses compared to the worthless trolls, here. I don't know what some of your guy's problem is. I asked a question: explain how money in the bank is good for wrestling? and most of you had some really lame fukking comments such as, "WCW is dead, get over it", "Burn him at the stake', and "Wrestling is serious business". God, you guys are assholes!




My business here was to discuss how PIN THE CHAMPION AFTER the match is good for wrestling. :roll:


Thanks for the few quality answers I got from some of you guys :y:

[Anybody Thrilla]

Can you explain how it's bad for wrestling?

[Providence Peep]

My business here was to discuss how PIN THE CHAMPION AFTER the match is good for wrestling. :roll:

And to let us know that when you're nWo, you're nWo for life, brother. :nono:
Now, explain how you doing THIS is good for wrestling.

[ChrisHarvard01]

@ anybody thrilla, My first reaction to money in the bank whore shit is it's a bail out for the creative team. We all love a good swerve, but if it takes a wrestler pinning a champion after a ONE FALL match concludes to do so... well, we have got to get a better creative team and a better brand of wrestling. I've been thinking "totally non-stop" on this one... :)

[Anybody Thrilla]

Well usually the briefcase is cashed in after the champion has been substantially compromised. You don't ever see the champ win a squash match and then get cashed in on. Regardless, it creates some nice surprise moments, and any time I'm actually surprised by a wrestling show, I think it's a good thing.

[Providence Peep]

Well, a red "x" is NEVER good or wrestling...or anything else.

FIXED. I think.

[Blakeamus]

@ anybody thrilla, My first reaction to money in the bank whore shit is it's a bail out for the creative team. We all love a good swerve, but if it takes a wrestler pinning a champion after a ONE FALL match concludes to do so... well, we have got to get a better creative team and a better brand of wrestling. I've been thinking "totally non-stop" on this one... :)

Were you a fan of the WWE Hardcore title, 24/7 rule?

[Kane Knight]

Does that mean a stoner's mentality is now higher than the new generation of posters?

Now? Most new posters have IQs so low you can't test them, you have to dig for them.

You'd have to be smoking the entire crop of the continent to bramage your dain that much.

http://me.khpop.com/sites/default/files/images/galleries/3798/wrestlinggonewrong.jpg

Explain how this is good for wrestling.


Homosexuals have a lot of disposable income?

[tjmidnight420]

I know you TPWW guys have earned your stripes here on the forums; here on the internet.

Ass cunt bitchface tl;dr.

Thanks for the few quality answers I got from some of you guys :y:

I hate to say it but Cpt. Fun was right. You're only getting trolled because you're a freakin idiot. Stevevicious hasn't been around that long and probably gets the same reaction. Ice Cream Bar is a moron. To break it down into easy to understand information: You're all viewed as trolls. This is because of the stupid shit you say. When you make a post, or a thread, you get trolled. This is because everyone here knows the thread was made with the intent of trolling. Which is exactly why you are so pissed off you're getting trolled.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

And to let us know that when you're nWo, you're nWo for life, brother. :nono:
Now, explain how you doing THIS is good for wrestling.

Peep, you can probably stop segregating yourself from the new posters some time soon. You've been here longer and posted more frequently, yet it seems as though you're still unable to grasp basic social skills.

[Captain of Fun]

@ anybody thrilla, My first reaction to money in the bank whore shit is it's a bail out for the creative team. We all love a good swerve, but if it takes a wrestler pinning a champion after a ONE FALL match concludes to do so... well, we have got to get a better creative team and a better brand of wrestling. I've been thinking "totally non-stop" on this one... :)


This doesn't make sense. It would if the only time there is ever a swerve in WWE, is when MITB is cashed in, but that's not the case.

You still aren't addressing why it's bad creatively. You just keep repeating that it IS bad.

[Captain of Fun]

Kind of makes a persuasive argument that it is lazy, since creative thought they could do that (and did that) without anything.

Saying it's not lazy because if they do other stuff it can work is kind of ridiculous.

I'm talking about the execution of MITB, not necessarily the concept. To this Harvard fellow's credit, yes, the creative team did get lazy with swagger, and just hand him the belt. But that was an isolated incident, and creative seems to have learned their lesson, as they've built up Bryan a lot better. Maybe not as well as they have previous winners, but we all know that Bryan's early cash in was due to Henry's sudden injury.

He was already feuding with Henry anyway, so while it wasn't perfect, I feel he was built up enough.

[Captain of Fun]

So I suppose you could make the argument that the core concept is lazy, but it's irrelevant really.

[Providence Peep]

Peep, you can probably stop segregating yourself from the new posters some time soon. You've been here longer and posted more frequently, yet it seems as though you're still unable to grasp basic social skills.

The difference between me and some of the other people here is that I realize I'm socially inept. It isn't by choice, but it is what it is - both here and IRL. Not much I can do about it.

[Ice Cream Bar]

Well, a red "x" is NEVER good or wrestling...or anything else.

Get a new computer you faggot I can see the pic fine and its 100% accurate. Keep that gay china man wrestling in the orient or in ROH not the big leagues

[Ice Cream Bar]

Were you a fan of the WWE Hardcore title, 24/7 rule?

That was a joke jobber title not something that has to do with the top belt in the industry

[Ice Cream Bar]

Can you explain how it's bad for wrestling?

I may be exaggerating in saying that it's WORSE to be champion via MITB than to never win at all but it's definitely not a good thing. Winning with the MITB initially was fine because first of all it made sense with Edge's gimmick. He was GOOD but he was also a cheap opportunist cunt that made him even BETTER. And the way Edge did it made the most sense. It seemed smart when he did it. But then RVD actually cashed in for a match and won. This made future winners look like pussy faggots. And now everyone does it. They just wait until a champion is down and then get a cheap victory. This completely makes me feel like MITB winners could not win it on their own. They suck. They are shitty mid carders who win a spot fest match and then cheap ass their way to winning. It hurts their credibility when their title runs suck too.

JOHN CENA WWE TOP STAR also mentioned this in his Del Rio feud. He totally pointed out how MITB is BULLSHIT.

And one last thing:

MITB can still work the way it is used if a heel does it.
dANIEL bRYAN is a babyface who is praised for his wrestling ability and then he goes and cashes in his cheap ass MITB BS on ANOTHER BABYFACE....AFTER HE HIMSELF SAID HE WOULD NOT UNTIL WRESTLEMANIA and wins it?


He has no credibility and he is a perfect represenation of 95% of the stupid IWC that is nothing but dumbass socially awkward faggot white kids in their early 20s in their moms basement who also like star wars and post dumb shit on 4chan

[ChrisHarvard01]

[QUOTE=tjmidnight420;3708623 You're only getting trolled because you're a freakin idiot. Stevevicious hasn't been around that long and probably gets the same reaction. Ice Cream Bar is a moron. Which is exactly why you are so pissed off you're getting trolled.[/QUOTE]


Well, that "moron" Ice Cream Bar has contributed something to this thread, unlike the troll that TJ and some of you are. You say I deserve to be "trolled" because I asked a significant question of how money in the bank is good for wrestling.



like I said, hammer me for being nWo for life. The nWo didn't even make that big of contribution in wrestling. (((Not like HHH. :lol: you fukkin WWE marks)))
The nWo might as well not exist. :rofl: You guys are such pretentious prics LoL.





Sorry TJ, but Ice Cream Bar contributed to this topic. If only people were wrestling expert veterans like you! Wow are you sure HE is the "moron"? It seems to me that you've proven to be a clueless internet tough guy :)




Please quote my post and put "bitch ass cunt" or whatever it is you do, LMAO.



TJ, you are a worthless slob. When you get done explainig to me how money in the bank is good for wrestling, explain how much you want to fukk HHH; you're a joke. :rofl:

[JimmyMess]

Yeah Ice Cream man... why are you getting mad on the internet?

There's so much to HAVE FUN WITH!

[tjmidnight420]

TJ, you are a worthless slob. When you get done explainig to me how money in the bank is good for wrestling, explain how much you want to fukk HHH; you're a joke. :rofl:

See it's like this boy. Money in the Bank is a tool for creative to change the world title picture as they see fit. Granted, they usually take the easy way out; if you can't see the possibilities for the whole scenario from a booking standpoint I don't have to make you look like a fool because you already do.

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

See it's like this boy. Money in the Bank is a tool for creative to change the world title picture as they see fit. Granted, they usually take the easy way out; if you can't see the possibilities for the whole scenario from a booking standpoint I don't have to make you look like a fool because you already do.

but it damages the credibility of the champion these days and it is also damaging the credibility of the world championships by giving every last average joe a title reign

[Aguakate]

Money in the Bank IN NO WAY "damages" the credibility of the Champion.

Short title reigns DO damage the credibility of the Champion.

[tjmidnight420]

but it damages the credibility of the champion these days and it is also damaging the credibility of the world championships by giving every last average joe a title reign

That's all in the way it's booked, not the gimmick itself.

[ChrisHarvard01]

See it's like this boy. Money in the Bank is a tool for creative to change the world title picture as they see fit. Granted, they usually take the easy way out; if you can't see the possibilities for the whole scenario from a booking standpoint I don't have to make you look like a fool because you already do.


I shouldn't have to press you to create a rational thought. I knew you'd come around though.


I appreciate your input as long as it's not a cheap shot, HHH cock sucking input like you've done earlier. I get it-- HHH is the best thing in wrestling... EVER :eek:



As far as the creative team being given "a way to change the world title picture", I will say again-- If it takes money in the bank to swerve us in wrestling we need to think totally non-stop about the direction in WWE wrestling.


You say "a way", I say "a bail out" for the creative team to serve up horse shit. Not any worse than Russo's horse shit but horse shit none the less.


Something about a title changing hands after a one fall match seems wrong to me. Maybe I am just old school. But you guys have been watching way longer than me :y:

[Captain of Fun]

What is wrong about it?

[Indifferent Clox]

I think the mitb match makes the morbid poverty special and gives them.a good long lasting story that always has you guessing. Its just a prop for storytelling. Some mitb runs are executed excellently, others not as much. I don't think its the concept that's flawed though.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Bunch of HHH cock sucking faggots in this thread.

[tjmidnight420]

I appreciate your input as long as it's not a cheap shot, HHH cock sucking input like you've done earlier. I get it-- HHH is the best thing in wrestling... EVER :eek:


You're confusing me with James Steele dumbass.

[DrA]

It's a neat concept that the WWE has beaten to death just like everything else.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

CM Punk might have never gotten over without it. So, it's automatically the best thing ever.

[FourFifty]

Hey guys, long time follower of wrestling. I've been a fan since I was a kid in 1996 when Marcus Bagwell & Too Cold Scorpio beat Roma and Orndorff at Clash of the Champions 16. I'm only 25 but hell, that was 1996 so I figure I've been watching long enough to say-- in what sector is it appropriate for a world champion to be pinned AFTER winning the the title??


Oh, Hi, I'm FourFifty. I've been a fan since you were your dad's Kool-Aid Man Fantasy. Anyways, with your views on Money In The Bank, you're kinda way out there. I bet you line your hats with tinfoil to prevent Big Brother from stealing your brainwaves.

MITB is one of the best things that can happen. It has been a reason to get new blood and fresh faces in the title scene. Hell, it can even get old blood back in the title scene. Look at Edge and CM Punk who were MITB winners. Look at RVD, who should have been in the title scene on his own awesomeness. He got in there because of MITB. Kane got a nice push because of MITB. And hey, who can forgot The Miz teasing his cashing in MITB. And Jack Swagger... Well ya can't win 'em all, point goes to Team You.

Does it have to be a 34728945 man ladder match? No. Does it make the match better? Not all the time. But still, the match itself serves as a great symbol of the winner climbing the ladder to the main event.

So just enjoy it, and remember when you think you've been around the block, you'll find someone who has been around the city.

[Aguakate]

To be honest, I kinda smirked when I read "Hey guys, long time follower of wrestling".

Then, "I've been a fan since I was a kid in 1996" .

[James Steele]

http://blog.zap2it.com/kate_ohare/WWE_TripleH.jpg

[Kane Knight]

To be honest, I kinda smirked when I read "Hey guys, long time follower of wrestling".

Then, "I've been a fan since I was a kid in 1996" .

To be fair, 15 years is a long time.

Especially since it's the majority of the lifespan of the majority of posters here.

[ChrisHarvard01]

@ Stelle, wtf man! That bum?

[FourFifty]

....is this twitter?

[ChrisHarvard01]

No way four fifty I just don't have the time.....

[FourFifty]

I'm just going to call you Thornton Melon.

[Aguakate]

To be fair, 15 years is a long time.

Especially since it's the majority of the lifespan of the majority of posters here.

I've been watching American wrestling since 1994, and I would never call myself a "longtime follower", especially since I missed so much in the 80's.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Except for Owen/Bret I don't see much to have gotten hooked into in 1994. 17 years is a long time watching wrestling. It might not be as long as others have been watching (around WM4 for me), but it's still a longtime. Though I call bullshit on 1996 because it means he only started watching wrestling because of the New World Order. Fuck that shit.

Like I said before there is nothing stopping you watching the 80s stuff on the internet or wherever. It's not like just because you missed it the first time that you can't go back. It's alot better than the stuff on today at any rate. It's going to be great going back to watch it all over again if the WWE Network gets on my cable box.

[crusnik]

I haven't posted much on this site but however I have been watching wresltling for a long time ,probably longer than anyone else here..lol. As for MITB i agree with some others .It was good for edge cause that his thing,being opportunistic,but i agree where it really kinda doesn't make the guy who cashes it in credible.take Daniel bryan for instance,I mean i like the guy and i think he is a great wrestler,kind of reminds me of Bob Backlund in that plain just wrestles no gimmicks type, but i would have rather seen him beat show straight up then doing it that way.the WWE (and TNA for that manner) should go back to having longer reigns .Look at it this way,the best way to really be credible is knocking off the champ who had the belt for like 6 months to a year then knocking off a guy who won it by beating someone when then just finshed defending the belt after 20 minutes or so.If they let the guy keep the belt for a long time, i bet they'll get more better ratings .Well that's my opinion anyway ,thanks.

[MoFo]

It serves the same purpose as King of the Ring did, but is more of a spectacle.

I dont see how thats bad in any way.

[Aguakate]

Except for Owen/Bret I don't see much to have gotten hooked into in 1994.


I moved to the United States in 1994, and the first time I watched wrestling w/ my uncle, and saw Razor Ramon, I was hooked ('cause he was "latino").

[Anybody Thrilla]

Just for fun, as brought to you by onlineworldofwrestling.com:

1994 WWF ROSTER

FACES
Lex Luger
Bret Hart
Undertaker
Razor Ramon
Randy Savage
1-2-3 Kid
British Bulldog
Doink
Adam Bomb
Sparky Plugg
Marty Jannetty
Earthquake
Rick Steiner
Scott Steiner
Billy Gunn
Bart Gunn
Mabel
Mo
Fatu
Samu
Sionne
Cousin Luke
Cousin Butch
Virgil

HEELS
Yokozuna
Owen Hart
Diesel
Shawn Michaels
Bob Backlund
Jerry Lawler
Jeff Jarrett
Crush
Jim Niedhart
Bastion Booger
Kwang
Jacques
Pierre
Tom Pritchard
Jimmy Del Ray
Timothy Well.
Steven Dunn
Bam Bam Bigelow
King Kong Bundy
Irwin R. Shiester
Tatanka

TAG TEAMS
Quebecers
Steiner Brothers
Smoking Gunns
Men on a Mission
Headshrinkers
Heavenly Bodies
Bushwhackers
Well Dunn

WOMEN
Alundra Blaze
Bull Nakano
Leilani Kai
Luna Vachon

MANAGERS
Ted DiBiase
Jim Cornette
Paul Bearer
Mr. Fuji
Johnny Polo
Harvey Wippleman
Lou Albano
Afa
Oscar.
Dink

[Aguakate]

1994 was a fairly good year for Wrestling.

The Royal Rumble ended on a tie, with Bret Hart and Lex Luger going on to WrestleMania. The Razor/HBK Ladder Match. Owen Hart won the King of the Ring, thereby becoming "The King of Harts". HBK superkicked Diesel a couple of times, eventually leading to Diesel becoming turning face and winning the WWF Championship in about 8 seconds.

And a lot more stuff. It was a good year to become a fan.

[Kane Knight]

I've been watching American wrestling since 1994, and I would never call myself a "longtime follower", especially since I missed so much in the 80's.

Just because you're a dumbass who has set up arbitrary restrictions doesn't mean everyone has to be.

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

1994 was a fairly good year for Wrestling.

The Royal Rumble ended on a tie, with Bret Hart and Lex Luger going on to WrestleMania. The Razor/HBK Ladder Match. Owen Hart won the King of the Ring, thereby becoming "The King of Harts". HBK superkicked Diesel a couple of times, eventually leading to Diesel becoming turning face and winning the WWF Championship in about 8 seconds.

And a lot more stuff. It was a good year to become a fan.

That all sounds like shit except Razor/HBK. lol 8 second match for the title gr8 year

[Anybody Thrilla]

The eight second match happened at a house show, to be fair.

Also, if you call Bret/Owen at Wrestlemania X "shit", I'm going to have to ask for you to be banned forever.

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

No that match was great but 94 was pretty awful overall

[Anybody Thrilla]

I blame Lex Luger.

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

Same

[CSL]

but he's your heeeeeee-rrrrooooooooooo :(

[Anybody Thrilla]

He did have a pretty sweet bus, and I DID mark out when he "hip tossed" Yokozuna...but still.

[Anybody Thrilla]

You know what year was amazing? 1992.

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

1992 was the last awesome year until like 1997 in my honest opinion.

for WWF that is. WCW was awesome in 96

[CSL]

92 will forever be brilliant because it had the greatest promo of all time

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[Anybody Thrilla]

The Ultimate Maniacs...what a fucking team.

[Aguakate]

No that match was great but 94 was pretty awful overall

LOL "94 was pretty awful overall".

:nono:

[SEXUAL VANILLA]

You think CM Punk is being held back. Of course you will like 1994.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

LOL "94 was pretty awful overall".

:nono:

Yeah, it was. WCW was more interesting to me in 94 and that was before they got Hogan.

[Gertner]

1994 was probably the worst year for wrestling in the past 30 years: the year Bret Hart became the biggest star in the WWF. Yuck.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

1994 WWF ROSTER

FACES
Lex Luger Shit
Bret Hart Great
Undertaker (Gone from competition Jan-August)
Razor Ramon Awesome.
Randy Savage Announcer wrestled like once.
1-2-3 Kid - Wasn't very good.
British Bulldog Rejoined in September, but used just as a "hart family member" role.
Doink- Shit.
Adam Bomb- Shit.
Sparky Plugg- Shit.
Marty Jannetty- 1993 was his year, not 1994.
Earthquake - Did nothing at all and then released to WCW.
Rick Steiner Didnt do much in 1994
Scott Steiner: same as his brother.
Billy Gunn- lol
Bart Gunn lol
Mabel - Whomp there it is was played out 2 years before this.
Mo - Same.
Fatu- Pretty Sweet guy
Samu - Yeah, but they fired him for Barbarian.
Sionne - Never fit with Fatu.
Cousin Luke - lol
Cousin Butch- lol
Virgil- Superstars jobber.

HEELS
Yokozuna- Pretty fucking sweet.
Owen Hart - Same thing.
Diesel.- Yeah he was pretty good.
Shawn Michaels - Great.
Bob Backlund - awesome.
Jerry Lawler - sweet.
Jeff Jarrett- sucked.
Crush - blew.
Jim Niedhart - boring attache to owen.
Bastion Booger -wrestlecrap.
Kwang - Savio Vega sucked then too.
Jacques- awesome/
Pierre; not as awesome as jacques rougeau.
Tom Pritchard- did nothing after jobbing summerslam 1993.
Jimmy Del Ray; Same.
Timothy Well.-jobber
Steven Dunn- jobber
Bam Bam Bigelow: great.
King Kong Bundy: pretty rundown at this point.
Irwin R. Shiester; never clicked again after splitting with ted dibiase.
Tatanka: sucked.

TAG TEAMS
Quebecers: great tag team.
Steiner Brothers did nothing in WWF in 1994.
Smoking Gunns: they sucked.
Men on a Mission they sucked.
Headshrinkers: changing team members killed this team.
Heavenly Bodies: Only plus was James E. Cornette.
Bushwhackers: Yay whoa hongi Sucked.
Well Dunn: blew.

WOMEN
Alundra Blaze: No.
Bull Nakano Yes.
Leilani Kai: is this 1994 or 1984?
Luna Vachon: didn't wrestle in 1994 that much but great as bam bam manager.


MANAGERS
Ted DiBiase: great.
Jim Cornette great
Paul Bearer wasn't around cause taker wasnt around.
Mr. Fuji: very tail end of his career as a manager had to have cornette be yoko's real manager.
Johnny Polo: Never really clicked.
Harvey Wippleman: Adam bomb sucked so he sucked in 1994.
Lou Albano: Good until they changed the members of the headshrinkers.
Afa: same.
Oscar. shitty.
Dink worst thing ever.

[Shisen Kopf]

this is to the mark who started this thread, how the hell can you call your self a fan, at first yes show couldnt wrestle, e.b. saw a hugh man to throw at hogan to get buyrates but his dedication to learn the art of the big man is only matches by "in my opinion" Andre, Bam Bam Bigalow, and honestly kevin nash. Mark Henry as well i can say has erned his one title reign in a decade and a half. i think u sir are a high spot monkey that watches sports entertainment instead of pro wrestling.

To answer the MITB ?, it serves as a built in swerve because in most cases u are somewhat suprised at the time they are cashed in. again my opinion.

Very good points mr person. My question to you is what Hugh man does you think has erned other title opportunities? Ern Anderson back in the day I'm sure

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Hugh man

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[XL]

Wrestling is an industry built on "moments",

Hogan slamming Andre at WM3, any number of specific guys winning The Big One (thinking HBK @ WM12, Benoit @ WM20, etc), The Montreal Screwjob, Lesnar/Show (and Henry/Show) imploding the ring, Punk winning the belt in Chicago and "leaving", etc, etc.

MitB creates a "moment" when the briefcase is cashed in. Even a tease gets a big reaction from the live crowd.

That said, I can't help but feel that winning your first World Title via cash-in, as is the case most of the time, doesn't exactly lend itself to creating a credible champion. That has to come with booking both before and after cashing in.

Swagger was let down by having no build going into his MitB win, he had been doing nothing or jobbing right the way up to Mania, then he's MitB winner, a week later he's World Heavyweight Champion. How can the "mark" audience buy him as a credible champion.

That said, MitB can be used to great effect. Look at Edge, his whole "Ultimate Opportunist" gimmick came from cashing in MitB (twice) and Punk cashing in on Hardy started a heel turn and a great character.

As with everything in wrestling it's all in the execution of the booking.

[RP]

they should call it Cheap Win In A Cheap Breifcase.

CWIACB match

[RP]

Is there Money in a bank somewhere? Do they make a wire transfer after they win? Isn't it just a title shot on a rope?

[RP]

If they really wanted to be creative, they could have someone break into the title holders house and pin them.

[bigslimjj]

I think having someone cash in and lose can push them into the soptlight just as easy as them winning. It's the perfect reason for a heel turn and would have fit Bryan nicely IMO. But it can still be done with the likes of Kofi, Ryder later on once the shine wears off, Alex Riley,Zeke or others. Right now everyone thinks it's an automatic new champion. Another idea is to incorporate the other titles into the mix at the MITB PPV. Maybe not in the same type of ladder matches but other stuff like an 8 man elimination singles match with the winner getting the shot. Or a multiple person cage match where the first person to escape gets a shot at the IC belt or something. Then you could spread out the cash ins and have more big pops when the surprise happens.

[XL]

Or dilute the impact of each cash in?

Two is more than enough.

[Kane Knight]

Is there Money in a bank somewhere? Do they make a wire transfer after they win? Isn't it just a title shot on a rope?

Fact: The original Money in the Bank was actually going to involve six wrestlers trying to break into a vault. Due to miscommunication, Shelton Benjamin was shot in a rehearsal and they had to change the plans at the last minute.

So they were all "fuck it, let's do a ladder match."

[ChrisHarvard01]

If they really wanted to be creative, they could have someone break into the title holders house and pin them.

THAT would be good for wrestling.


It's all about the "swerve".


And swerves are really tough for a creative team.


We should give the WWE a break! :lol: There's nothing better than a twenty second match for the world championship! :rofl:

[Juan]

I'm certain that if the champion hadn't just been in a match and then put into a compromising position, the match would be longer than 20 seconds.

[ChrisHarvard01]

Exactly Juan. That is a whole lot of my point.


Some people have hammered me in this thread saying I have explained why it's not GOOD for wrestling but not specified why Money in the Bank is BAD for wrestling.



I'm certain that if the champion hadn't just been in a match and then put into a compromising position, the match would be longer than 20 seconds.



BOOM. Exactly my thoughts.

[ChrisHarvard01]

Just because you're a dumbass who has set up arbitrary restrictions doesn't mean everyone has to be.

aguakate, Kane Knight just OWNED you! LMAO :rofl:


Man, you're such a pric. 1994... OH GOD! Everyone salute the mighty aguakate :rofl: the master of international and US wrestling! :eek:


aguakate settle down. With our help, we'll teach you how to be polite in american and canadian society ;)

[Aguakate]

aguakate, Kane Knight just OWNED you! LMAO :rofl:


Man, you're such a pric. 1994... OH GOD! Everyone salute the mighty aguakate :rofl: the master of international and US wrestling! :eek:


aguakate settle down. With our help, we'll teach you how to be polite in american and canadian society ;)

...'the fuck's wrong with you?

[ChrisHarvard01]

...'the fuck's wrong with you?





HHHHHMMMMMM........



To be honest, I kinda smirked when I read "Hey guys, long time follower of wrestling".




Then again, "I've been a fan since I was a kid in 1996".



What's wrong with me is you're a fukking douche bag, and I'm calling you on it.




Kane Knight buried you for it because you throw stones.




I've been watching American wrestling since 1994, and I would never call myself a "longtime follower", especially since I missed so much in the 80's.





You could have contributed but instead you were a fukking pric talking about how I am not a "long time follower" because I've only been watching for 15 years. Well pal, I hate to tell you but....








To be fair, 15 years is a long time.

Especially since it's the majority of the lifespan of the majority of posters here.







aguakate, Kane Knight has 134 THOUSAND posts over you wow I'm starting to think he knows wrestling. What do you think, guys?


OMG. Send out some fireworks, aguakate just got owned twice in one thread. What a jerk :rofl:

[Aguakate]

Oh, ok.

I gotta stop throwing stones.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Hey STD, can you name 10 people who you feel are at least "pretty sweet" in today's environment, in which we are all still fans?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I said it wasn't good enough to become a fan in it. If you're already a fan it's easier to stick with it.

CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler, Vickie Guerrero, Zack Ryder, John Cena, Wade Barrett, Randy Orton (when he's heel), Kane, Mark Henry and Daniel Bryan.

Plus you got Tyler Black, Dean Ambrose and Claudio waiting in the wings. Things are looking up for the WWE right now.

1994 was a downtime except for WM10. It was the start of the downturn that nearly killed the company when WCW took over.

[Captain of Fun]

It's not good for dragons, that's for sure.

[CSL]

Dragon Dragon > MITB

[ChrisHarvard01]

this is to the mark who started this thread, how the hell can you call your self a fan, at first yes show couldnt wrestle, e.b. saw a hugh man to throw at hogan to get buyrates but his dedication to learn the art of the big man is only matches by "in my opinion" Andre, Bam Bam Bigalow, and honestly kevin nash.

LoL oh yeah, I am such a WCW "mark" :D

Based on your comments, you're saying Paul Wight CAN wrestle and is mediocre/good at it.

Do posters here actually believe this?

[Swish]

This friend had me in laughter!!!!!.....

I have nothing wrong with Money in the Bank, it's good for wrestling because
it's a stipulation match.. Just like TLC and a typical Ladder Match :).

Nuff

[Kane Knight]

Oh, ok.

I gotta stop throwing stones.

Or at least stop feeding obvious trolls.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I guess "it takes one to know one" goes right over Aguakate's non-married head.

[Kane Knight]

I guess "it takes one to know one" goes right over Aguakate's non-married head.
Pretty sure most things go over agua kite's head.

[ChrisHarvard01]

Or at least stop feeding obvious trolls.

Do you speak of me as a troll? I troll my own thread, demanding answers? :drool:


Thanks for your input, anyways :y: