Jim Ross drops a pipe-bomb

[Mr. Nerfect]

When asked on his Twitter about whether or not he thinks Dolph Ziggler or Cody Rhodes will be a World Champion in 2012, Jim Ross replied with "If not, they both should quit."

Care to discuss?

[Theo Dious]

Is it me or has JR been kind of a twat lately?

[Aguakate]

Because of this, Jim Ross will be invited to appear at an upcoming RAW, and be humiliated somehow (yet again).

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Jim Ross hits the nail on the head so many times, he oughta go into carpentry.

#TurribleJoke

[Mr. Nerfect]

Apparently JR said the same thing to Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart in the 90's. Not sure if that's true or not.

[Xero]

Ziggler I think is ready, but Cody has a little bit more to go. Ziggler in 2012, Cody in 2013.

[Aguakate]

Ziggler I think is ready, but Cody has a little bit more to go. Ziggler in 2012, Cody in 2013.

I firmly believe that Ziggler will win the MITB in 2012.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ziggler was ready yesterday. Technically he's already been a World Champion, though.

[Aguakate]

Jim Ross comes across somewhat as a bitter old man, but he usually is right in what he says.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

How the fuck does Jim Ross come across as a bitter old man?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Jim Ross gets shit on and humiliated repeatedly on national television, and still comes back for more.

[Aguakate]

How the fuck does Jim Ross come across as a bitter old man?

On twitter, and on the Q&A's he does on his website. Read some of 'em.

[Xero]

I don't think he comes off as bitter as much as he comes off as disappointed with the product.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I have read them. He sounds like a guy who knows a shit ton about wrestling who gives an honest answer to a lot of stupid questions.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

bioshock326 Asks:


Hey,J.R. how can you take all the humiliation by Michael Cole.


J.R.'s Answer:

It's a show...Cole is playing a villain. I don't take it seriously at all.



BOOOOOOO, JR IS SUCH A CONDESCENDING ASSHOLE

[Juan]

On twitter, and on the Q&A's he does on his website. Read some of 'em.

That's probably because his inbox gets flooded with stupid questions like who the new Kane is

[Supreme Olajuwon]

lou Asks:


Is the Stacy Keibler - George Clooney relationship an orchestrated storyline by Vince in order to get WWE in hollywood over?


J.R.'s Answer:

Uh, no. Stacy is long finished with the wrestling business.


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO JR IS SUCH AN ASSHOLE

[Mr. Nerfect]

I have read them. He sounds like a guy who knows a shit ton about wrestling who gives an honest answer to a lot of stupid questions.

Agreed. The dude seems happy with the hand life has dealt him. Can't see how that is bitter.

[Cool King]

lou Asks:


Is the Stacy Keibler - George Clooney relationship an orchestrated storyline by Vince in order to get WWE in hollywood over?


J.R.'s Answer:

Uh, no. Stacy is long finished with the wrestling business.


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO JR IS SUCH AN ASSHOLE


Wow, I just had to check to see if that was a real question, as a part of me thought that maybe you just made that up as an example of a stupid question.

But Jesus Christ someone actually asked that.

[Aguakate]

Wow, I just had to check to see if that was a real question, as a part of me thought that maybe you just made that up as an example of a stupid question.

But Jesus Christ someone actually asked that.

LOL ditto. I thought he made it up.

I guess "bitter" wasn't the best word to indicate what I was trying to say. I meant "rude", somewhere along those lines.

But you can see why he is like that.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The real question should be is JR helping swerve us on this whole Clooney angle?

[Aguakate]

He's clearly in on it.

[Kane Knight]

Is this supposed to be controversial or something?

[Dirk Ziggler]

Ziggler I think is ready, but Cody has a little bit more to go. Ziggler in 2012, Cody in 2013.

If Daniel Bryan is ready, Cody Rhodes is ready.

[Emperor Smeat]

If both stay on the same brand and stay as a heel, Cody Rhodes has the better shot of becoming a world champion in 2012 and doing it before Ziggler.

Raw seems a bit too packed in heels for the WWE title level right now, especially with Kane's return as a heel. Rhodes is arguably the #2 heel after Henry on Smackdown.

Although I wouldn't be as shocked if Ziggler won the Rumble or MitB case.

[chrisat928]

I love when people call wrestlers and other wrestling personalities assholes and such in this age.

When there are so many fucking idiots on the internet who do this kind of shit to people they supposedly like and look up too, it's no wonder these guys act like this.

[Tom Guycott]

Ziggler I think is ready, but Cody has a little bit more to go. Ziggler in 2012, Cody in 2013.

I disagree. Both should get the shot sooner than later. Yes, DZ is on fire right now, but I think waiting too long on Cody (who by the way, everyone thought he and DiBiase would be in each other's place by now ever since Cody turned on Baldcore Holly.*) would have the same detriment as they had with someone like Christian. Especially true if they wait a whole 'nother freakin' year to elevate him.





*Don't deny it, people. I'm in that boat too. I saw the spark when he started the Dashing gimmick, but before that... yeah. Bland.

[Mr. Pierre]

WWE should set up a babyface chase for one of their World titles going into Mania, and I think it'll be with Punk. I could see him losing the championship to Ziggler at the Rumble and being the challenger.

[FourFifty]

This is far form a pipe bomb. I'm sure many fans feel the same way about Ziggler getting a legit run. Maybe Cody needs some more polish, but he's still damn good, great even.

[Aguakate]

Maybe JR is beginning to prepare us for another heel run, where he'll also bring back Fake Razor and Fake Diesel.

[Autobahn]

JR needs to turn into a badass, no nonsense submission machine.

[Droford]

The real question should be is JR helping swerve us on this whole Clooney angle?

George Clooney - annonymous RAW GM

WWE is obviously however waiting for Jennifer Hudson to do something important again so they can run out nOugat with her to get some rub from it.

[Droford]

JR needs to turn into a badass, no nonsense submission machine.

You'll tap out to..MY ASS.

Beat me if you can, survive if MY ASS lets you.

[Droford]

Oh, and I will say that Cody Rhodes will NOT be a WORLD/WWE Champion in 2012. Dolph, maybe..

[Nicky Fives]

Cody needs to last 30+ minutes at Royal Rumble.....

[Xero]

If Daniel Bryan is ready, Cody Rhodes is ready.

Bryan isn't ready.

I disagree. Both should get the shot sooner than later. Yes, DZ is on fire right now, but I think waiting too long on Cody (who by the way, everyone thought he and DiBiase would be in each other's place by now ever since Cody turned on Baldcore Holly.*) would have the same detriment as they had with someone like Christian. Especially true if they wait a whole 'nother freakin' year to elevate him.


I just don't feel Cody's main event material just yet. He's still coming into his own and is being built nicely. Most guys shouldn't have the trigger pulled until they're well established. That's something people now have seemed to forgot. If someone gets hot and doesn't get the title people just assume that WWE is shitting on them and "wasting an opportunity". Don't get me wrong, I believe they've waited way too long on some guys, but Cody is no where near that point and could use more build.

There's nothing wrong with waiting a while if it's built up well. I'd been saying that Dolph shouldn't get it until 2013 even, but I think he's stepped up to that next level. It can happen with Cody, but I don't have a problem with waiting on it and would prefer it at this point.

Plus waiting on it spreads out the ascent of stars, which at this point is fine. It'd be a different story if this were two years ago, but WWE has enough fresh blood in the main event that they don't have to rush a lot of pushes right now.

[DaveBrawl]

Maybe JR is beginning to prepare us for another heel run, where he'll also bring back Fake Razor and Fake Diesel.

How about FakeLaser?

[RiX1024]

I can see Dolph be champion again next year, not quite sure about Cody.

[erickman]

Ziggler I think is ready, but Cody has a little bit more to go. Ziggler in 2012, Cody in 2013.

i don't know cody had good wrestlers giving him the rub last 2 years 1st ray now booker an if his brother goldust can get him over till wrestlemania i say after that give him the belt.

[Aguakate]

JR needs to turn into a badass, no nonsense submission machine.

You'll tap out to..MY ASS.

Beat me if you can, survive if MY ASS lets you.

This needs to happen.

SOON.

[MoFo]

Thank fuck hes off commentary, the guy flat out sucked for the last 10 yrs.

Amazing how much shit Cole gets when hes 500x the announcer.

[Anybody Thrilla]

i don't know cody had good wrestlers giving him the rub last 2 years 1st ray now booker an if his brother goldust can get him over till wrestlemania i say after that give him the belt.

Good wrestler or not, Goldust hardly seems like the final obstacle to the main event for anyone.

[Shadrick]

Thank fuck hes off commentary, the guy flat out sucked for the last 10 yrs.

Amazing how much shit Cole gets when hes 500x the announcer.

not sure if serious....

[barelypure]

i don't know cody had good wrestlers giving him the rub last 2 years 1st ray now booker an if his brother goldust can get him over till wrestlemania i say after that give him the belt.

half brother Golddust. Different moms. Yeah, Dusty cheated but that's a different topic.

[BigCrippyZ]

I just don't feel Cody's main event material just yet. He's still coming into his own and is being built nicely. Most guys shouldn't have the trigger pulled until they're well established. That's something people now have seemed to forgot. If someone gets hot and doesn't get the title people just assume that WWE is shitting on them and "wasting an opportunity". Don't get me wrong, I believe they've waited way too long on some guys, but Cody is no where near that point and could use more build.

There's nothing wrong with waiting a while if it's built up well. I'd been saying that Dolph shouldn't get it until 2013 even, but I think he's stepped up to that next level. It can happen with Cody, but I don't have a problem with waiting on it and would prefer it at this point.

Plus waiting on it spreads out the ascent of stars, which at this point is fine. It'd be a different story if this were two years ago, but WWE has enough fresh blood in the main event that they don't have to rush a lot of pushes right now.

I agree. Look back at Jericho's basically 2 year WWF title build. People were going bat shit crazy for him and wanting him to get a WWF title shot in early 2000 (although some of it was due to the great heel work of HHH) and they teased the hell out of it off and on through 2000, even unofficially giving him the title of RAW and then taking it away via reverse decision. They mainly involved him in other feuds/storylines and title hunts though through 2000-01, until finally giving him the title over Austin and Rock in December 2001. Now that's how you build a new world champion.

[Anybody Thrilla]

half brother Golddust. Different moms. Yeah, Dusty cheated but that's a different topic.

I would love to know why you thought this was a relevant post.

[erickman]

Good wrestler or not, Goldust hardly seems like the final obstacle to the main event for anyone.

well goldust fueded with shamus in wwecw just before shamus went to raw with his big push

[Anybody Thrilla]

well goldust fueded with shamus in wwecw just before shamus went to raw with his big push

His final obstacle was John Cena, though. He wasn't a main eventer after beating Goldust. Only 17 people even remember that feud.

[Aguakate]

If Goldust picked up his gimmick circa 1995, when he first came in and had that feud with Razor Ramon, where he was all weird and almost homoerotic, he could easily become a main eventer and Champion, even in 2012.

Imagine him sending "love letters" to Randy Orton, John Cena or CM Punk, trying to psych them out.

[Anybody Thrilla]

If Goldust picked up his gimmick circa 1995, when he first came in and had that feud with Razor Ramon, where he was all weird and almost homoerotic, he could easily become a main eventer and Champion, even in 2012.

Imagine him sending "love letters" to Randy Orton, John Cena or CM Punk, trying to psych them out.

I wouldn't mind that, but that doesn't change his current position whatsoever.

[Aguakate]

I wouldn't mind that, but that doesn't change his current position whatsoever.

Well, his injured right now, I think. And he's working behind the scenes with the Divas.

[Anybody Thrilla]

So the fuck what?

[Aguakate]

So you don't like his current position because he's injured?

I'm sure he doesn't like it either, guy.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I never said I didn't like his current position. All I was originally saying is that a feud with Goldust would not be Cody's final obstacle to the main event. Have you read anything in this thread, like, at all?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I understand that he's talented and he COULD be relevant still, given the right circumstances...but he's fucking not. He's just not. OK?

[Aguakate]

Well, right now he's not.

HE'S INJURED.

[Anybody Thrilla]

So that's a "no, I have not read anything in this thread". Check.

[Aguakate]

Me cago en na'. Este no entiende lo que yo estoy diciendo, carajo. Hay que joderse.


:nono:

[Anybody Thrilla]

Thanks for showing me what it's like to have no clue what I'm reading.

[Kane Knight]

Me cago en na'. Este no entiende lo que yo estoy diciendo, carajo. Hay que joderse.


:nono:

Oddly enough, your posts don't lose anyting for not being in English. Actually, I think you improved some there.

[starfox8500]

I never said I didn't like his current position. All I was originally saying is that a feud with Goldust would not be Cody's final obstacle to the main event. Have you read anything in this thread, like, at all?

You know who does like his current position?

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/constantino4.jpg

[Theo Dious]

Maybe JR is beginning to prepare us for another heel run, where he'll also bring back Fake Razor and Fake Diesel.

I'd rather he bring out Fake Benoit and Fake Gurrerro. RATINGS.

[Theo Dious]

If Goldust picked up his gimmick circa 1995, when he first came in and had that feud with Razor Ramon, where he was all weird and almost homoerotic

...ALMOST homoerotic? What the hell show were you watching?

[Tom Guycott]

Maybe JR is beginning to prepare us for another heel run, where he'll also bring back Fake Razor and Fake Diesel.

To be relevant to the topic at hand: If you'd agree to make it a Fake Dolph and a Fake Cody, I say book this!!!1!

[Vastardikai]

...ALMOST homoerotic? What the hell show were you watching?

Almost homoerotic sounds like wrestling in general.

[XL]

Maybe JR is beginning to prepare us for another heel run, where he'll also bring back Fake Razor and Fake Diesel.
JR should have an over-the-top, overzealous footbal coach style gimmick. Pair him with Alex Riley and/or Swagger. Should make a nice gimmick for the tag division.

Well, right now he's not.

HE'S INJURED.
And before he was injured he was a Main Eventer, right?

TBF, I think a Cody/Goldust fued could be $$$ if they made it extremely personal with Cody taking his (half) brother out of the game entirely.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The story would be what carried a Cody/Goldust feud. That Cody would be willing to permanently destroy his older brother to immortalise his legacy defines his character as willing to do anything to be a World Champion and future Hall of Famer. Also, Goldust is over. He has been nowhere near the main event recently, but he's definitely over.

If the WWE holds a King of the Ring next year, then I think either Dolph or Cody would be perfect choices to win it.