Top 50 Wrestlers of 2011

[JimmyMess]

This, from the main page:

For the eighteenth year, Power Slam magazine presents The PS 50, which ranks the 50 best-performing wrestlers in the industry. Rankings in The PS 50 are basted on grapplers’ in-ring showings over a 12-month period (December 1, 2010 through November 30, 2011).

1. Hiroshi Tanahashi
2. Randy Orton
3. Davey Richards
4. Prince Devitt
5. Shingo Takagi
6. Christian
7. Kurt Angle
8. C.M. Punk
9. Kota Ibush
10. Takashi Sugiura
11. KENTA
12. Go Shiozaki
13. PAC
14. Akira Tozawa
15. Hirooki Goto
16. Eddie Edwards
17. BxB Hulk
18. Tetsuya Naito
19. AJ Styles
20. Shinsuke Nakamura
21. Masaaki Mochizuki
22. Bobby Roode
23. Rey Mysterio
24. Kenny Omega
25. Sheamus
26. Antonio Cesaro
27. CIMA
28. Katsuhiko Nakajima
29. Masato Yoshino
30. Chris Hero
31. Dragon Kid
32. Jay Briscoe
33. Ricochet
34. Mark Briscoe
35. Kevin Steen
36. Yuji Nagata
37. James Storm
38. Dolph Ziggler
39. Daniel Bryan
40. El Generico
41. Alberto Del Rio
42. Ryusuke Taguchi
43. Austin Aries
44. Jeff Jarrett
45. Kofi Kingston
46. Bully Ray
47. Christopher Daniels
48. The Miz
49. John Morrison
50. Kenny King

What do you guys think of the list? Note, only 3 of the top 10 come from WWE. Do you agree with this list? Anybody you feel was left off, or who shouldn't be placed in this grouping?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Never heard of most of them.

[CSL]

Power Slam can suck a big fat penis nowadays, Fin Martin is a fucking idiot. These lists and the mag itself were alright 5-6 years ago.

[JimmyMess]

Never heard of most of them.

That is the first thing that came to my mind.

[Xero]

Dave Mercy :(

[Aguakate]

Alberto Del Rio #41 out of 50.

Fucking bullshit.

[BizarroKing]

hey anyone else notice someone not on that list? We truly can't see him. And that's the best early xmas gift of all so far.

[XCaliber]

WTF Miz at 48 REALLY?!? :mad:

[Xero]

hey anyone else notice someone not on that list? We truly can't see him. And that's the best early xmas gift of all so far.

Orton being #2 kind of negates that, though.

Seriously though, Cena does belong on this list, don't care who else is on there. And for that reason alone this is ridiculous.

[CSL]

hey anyone else notice someone not on that list? We truly can't see him. And that's the best early xmas gift of all so far.

Fin Martin hates Cena, cries about him in like every single issue. The magazine is pretty much a mutie handbook nowadays.

[Xero]

I assume he blows Orton like a $2 whore?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't know most of the Japanese guys, but Dolph Ziggler's placement makes me feel that this list sucks dickholes. He should at least be top five. Also, where the fuck is Cody Rhodes? Also, why the fuck is Bully Ray on there?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Actually, I kinda like Bully Ray, but NOT ON A LIST LIKE THIS. :mad:

[Next Big Thing]

Any "best wrestlers" list that has Jeff Jarrett, Bully Ray and the Miz while excluding Cena is a ridiculous joke. This seems like blatant Cena hate.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Based on in-ring showings, huh? How do you even quantify that?

[Xero]

Based on in-ring showings, huh? How do you even quantify that?

Writer: These are guys from my favorite matches of the year.

[Aguakate]

Writer: These are guys from my favorite matches of the year.

Writer: These are the guys I like, it's my magazine, I'll do what I want.

[CSL]

they're big on/bang up to date/cover a lot of puro so the Japs always do well and deservedly so. They've just gotten really whiny over the last few years though/completely miss the point of so much/developed love for MOVEZ/hold pro wrestling to the same standards as an HBO show etc, like I say mutie type stuff.

[CSL]

an aggregate type list of all the previous PS 50's, shows they were pretty accurate for the most part (it's fucked up looking because the WKYYWWKKWKWKABBBWKKWKW editor gimmick is being a bit of a prick and telling me the good/proper looking version won't post)

# Name Country 1 2 3 Other placings Total First appearance Last appearance Federation
1 Shawn Michaels USA 3 1 2 4 10 1994 2008 WWE
2 Kurt Angle USA 3 3 0 5 10 1994 2005 WWE TNA
3 Chris Benoit Canada 2 1 1 5 9 1999 2008 WWE WCW NJPW
4 Stone Cold Steve Austin USA 2 0 0 1 3 1998 2001 WWE WCW
5 Kenta Kobashi Japan 1 2 1 6 10 1994 2005 AJPW
6 A.J. Styles USA 1 0 1 4 6 2003 2008 TNA
7 Mitsuharu Misawa Japan 1 0 0 9 10 1994 2005 AJPW
8 Triple H USA 1 0 0 9 10 1995 2008 WWE WCW
9 Edge Canada 1 0 0 8 9 1999 2007 WWE
10 Bret Hart Canada 1 0 0 5 6 1994 1999 WWE WCW
11 Keiji Mutoh Japan 0 2 0 6 8 1994 2008 NJPW AJPW WCW
12 Kenta Japan 0 1 2 3 6 2003 2008 NOAH
13 Nigel McGuinness England 0 1 1 1 3 2006 2008 ROH
14 Jushin Liger Japan 0 1 0 10 11 1994 2005 NJPW
15 Koji Kanemoto Japan 0 1 0 9 10 1995 2005 NJPW
16 Yuji Nagata Japan 0 1 0 10 11 1994 2005 NJPW WCW
17 Bryan Danielson USA 0 1 0 5 6 2003 2008 ROH
18 Toshiaki Kawada Japan 0 0 1 9 10 1994 2005 AJPW
19 Eddie Guerrero USA 0 0 1 8 9 1994 2005 WWE WCW NJPW
20 Dean Malenko USA 0 0 1 5 6 1995 2000 WWE WCW
21 Mick Foley USA 0 0 1 5 6 1994 2004 WWE WCW TNA
22 Samoa Joe USA 0 0 1 5 6 2003 2008 TNA ROH
23 The Rock USA 0 0 1 4 5 1999 2002 WWE
24 Low Ki USA 0 0 1 4 5 2001 2005 TNA NJPW

[CSL]

I assume he blows Orton like a $2 whore?

no idea, I only read other peoples copies nowadays/haven't read it for months

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't even mean to take anything away from the Japanese guys that I've never seen wrestle, but there's no way Jeff Jarrett had a better in-ring year than Cody Rhodes, no matter what kind of formula they use.

[Aguakate]

Just think, according to these people, Randy Orton is #1 in the US.

I don't think that's accurate.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Just think, according to these people, Randy Orton is #1 in the US.

I don't think that's accurate.

There's at least an argument there, though...not to be made by me, but there's one there.

[CSL]

Randy Orton has a pretty good claim for #1 on the planet

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't remember any bad Randy Orton matches this past year, and he even wrestled Mark Henry a few times. He even had what I would call a four star showing with Drew McIntyre on Raw with no build up whatsoever.

[CSL]

now it almost seems like I'm sticking up for them.

Fuck Power Slam and Randy Orton is outstanding basically.

[Aguakate]

I don't remember any bad Randy Orton matches this past year, and he even wrestled Mark Henry a few times. He even had what I would call a four star showing with Drew McIntyre on Raw with no build up whatsoever.

Yeah but CM Punk, John Cena and Alberto Del Rio all had multiple awesome matches in between all three of them.

Granted, it was all basically done in the second half of the year, but...

[Lock Jaw]

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BOW DOWN TO HIROSHI TANAHASHI.... BEST IN THE WOOOOOORLD!!

[CSL]

he's very very good, can't really compare puro guys to WWE/TV style guys tho

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yeah but CM Punk, John Cena and Alberto Del Rio all had multiple awesome matches in between all three of them.

Granted, it was all basically done in the second half of the year, but...

Like I said, there's an argument to be made, short of a formula to actually calculate match quality per individual involved...which is pretty impossible. I like all those guys too, and I do think this list is full of ball hairs and snot, but Orton MIGHT be the best in the US still.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I wonder if DLVH85 would like to offer some insight to this list whenever he gets done jerking off to it.

[Aguakate]

Like I said, there's an argument to be made, short of a formula to actually calculate match quality per individual involved...which is pretty impossible. I like all those guys too, and I do think this list is full of ball hairs and snot, but Orton MIGHT be the best in the US still.

I still don't understand the "formula" used here. The should just say "These are the best guys according to me, and if you disagree, suck my dick".

Instead of talking about some system they use.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Right. I'd at least like to see the formula.

[Xero]

They should use this formula:

Average length of their matches * Number of matches + (Average number of moves preformed in their matches - Amount of botches) - Amount of time using rest holds / the combined length of their promo time

[Anybody Thrilla]

They should use this formula:

Average length of their matches * Number of matches + (Average number of moves preformed in their matches - Amount of botches) - Amount of time using rest holds / the combined length of their promo time

If match length is being multiplied and promo time is being subtracted, the list would be all Japanese.

[Xero]

Promo time is replaced with average amount of chops used in the match for Japanese wrestlers.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Now we're talking.

[Lock Jaw]

Amount of SUPERKICKS

[Xero]

That's for the indies.

[Rammsteinmad]

The #1 wrestler of 2011 is a guy nobody's heard of. Great list. :y:

[Nicky Fives]

I have heard of 6 of the Top 20......

[Juan]

I don't believe you. There are like 12 WWE guys alone on the list, plus guys like Kurt Angle, Jeff Jarrett and AJ Styles who I'm sure you've heard of

[Aguakate]

I don't believe you. There are like 12 WWE guys alone on the list, plus guys like Kurt Angle, Jeff Jarrett and AJ Styles who I'm sure you've heard of

Maybe he's heard of 6 of the guys, and knows the other 14?

[Juan]

Maybe

[Lock Jaw]

He's talking about the top 20 only. Of which there are only 5 WWE/TNA guys.

Unless he edited it afterward to say "of the top 20"

[Aguakate]

He's talking about the top 20 only. Of which there are only 5 WWE/TNA guys.

Unless he edited it afterward to say "of the top 20"

True dat. The list is composed of 50, not 20. FML.

[Juan]

Shit. This is all your fault Aguakate.

[Aguakate]

LOL mine? You were the one who was like "Kurt Angle's on here, so is AJ Styles and Jeff Jarrett".

[Indifferent Clox]

More bought tickets to see Hiroshina tanashi than anybody in the top ten save number 2

[Indifferent Clox]

Oh and number 8.

[Aguakate]

More bought tickets to see Hiroshina tanashi than anybody in the top ten save number 2

I'm sure alot of people bought tickets to see Yu Darvish, but I wouldn't say he's better than Justin Verlander, you know?

[Indifferent Clox]

Japanese wrestling is actually respected by the Japanese audience.

[CSL]

what does that have to do with anything?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

This is like when Arcade Fire won the Grammies.

[Shisen Kopf]

Was that list created by dvhl or whatever his name is?

[Rammsteinmad]

A DLVH joke has already been made in this thread. :p

[weather vane]

Kenny Omega should be number one.

[MoFo]

Ya, wat CSL said basically.

Havent read it for years now, cuz the editor is the extreme opposite of what Gertner is here, just bums indy wrestling and slags off WWE & TNA.

[Gertner]

Who cares about those stupid Rice Headed Japs?

[Shisen Kopf]

Not me you know that. Best Jap rassler was Yokozuna and he wasn't even a real Jap. So in conclusion, Japan rassle sucks and they should stop