The Raw Thread 02/01/12: hasneyserectionbegins2012

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Actually the flashing lights on the jacket might swing in its favour. Damn, would be a tough choice if I could buy them.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

That was great. He didn't say Welcome to Raw is Jericho ohh noes. :D

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

WWERawGM John Laurinaitis
And to those wondering why Brodus didn't debut tonight, I have my reasons. He will debut next week, I promise. Why would I lie? #Raw

[Cool King]

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[BizarroKing]

William Regal William Regal @RealKingRegal

I'm on a horse!

Regal=New Old Spice man

WWERawGM John Laurinaitis
And to those wondering why Brodus didn't debut tonight, I have my reasons. He will debut next week, I promise. Why would I lie? #Raw

Brodus probably died a few weeks ago and they're trying everything they can to cover it up.

[Emperor Smeat]

Wouldn't be surprised if the debut was just part of a giant ruse by him phoning in all that excitement to make the crowd think he actually is a face even though the videos hinted more of a heelish character. Had a bunch of spots where he could have broken the ruse but kept it going to trick the crowd.

:rofl: at Brodus debut becoming the running gag for Raw now.

[Aguakate]

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[#1-norm-fan]

Would be even more hilarious if Jericho got so caught up in working the crowd, they got word to him that they were out of time for his segment and he just had to leave before the planned promo. lol

[#1-norm-fan]

And yeah, Brodus Clay is most certainly deceased.

[Aguakate]

Would be even more hilarious if Jericho got so caught up in working the crowd, they got word to him that they were out of time for his segment and he just had to leave before the planned promo. lol

Nah, it was fine as it happened.

[Wake Up Call]

Although his return made no sense, and didn't connect with the videos what so ever, Jericho is brilliant.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

the videos said end of the world, things will never be the same again. So, there are your connections.

[Lock Jaw]

Gonna come out next week and call them all hypocrites, sycophants, and parasites. In that order.

They hated him when he left, but now that he came back, all of a sudden everybody loved him and he could make them do whatever he wanted.

[CSL]

the bottom line on the whole thing really is simply the fact that everybody will tune in next week to see what he does next, where it's going, for answers basically. job done really

[Aguakate]

The videos were a little wacky only because it's probably true what was said, that they were making them "neutral" so they could use them for Undertaker if they didn't come to an agreement with Jericho.

[Mr. Pierre]

Pretty weird RAW, but I enjoyed it for the most part.

-It seems like they could be setting up for Bryan to be that really annoying heel. I think he'll cheat on SD to go over Show, or just get counted out. Nice match with Cody too.

-Jericho's return was awesome, and it was impressive how he kept the crowd going the entire time. Was hoping for a promo, but it was different and fun. I guess we'll have to wait next week.

-Punk/Ziggler was a good TV match. Obviously wasn't their best since they are planning a PPV match between the two, but it was good. The ending sucked though, especially how Ziggler and Vickie wanted the countout. Why? Do they not know the rules of a title match? Stupid, but regardless, it was a good match.

-Big Show seems to be another wrestler though who doesn't know the rules, as he seemed shocked that he was DQ'd after using a steel chair.

-The main event as a match was good, and put over Ryder nicely since he didn't tap to Swagger. But, that ending with Kane just felt so lame to me. "Ryder's being dragged into the abyss!" Just reeked of TNA.

-So yeah, good show, great to see Y2J back, but just had some strange things on it that stood out to me.

[Juan]

Glad they've finally toned down Michael Cole. I noticed it a bit last week, but tonight he actually put over Zack Ryder

[MoFo]

Really liked it (missed the main event tho)

Punk v Zigs was a solid match, digging the Miz/Truth stuff (didnt want them to split up in the 1st place though) and was so hyped for the Jericho reveal. Very well done with the 'earthquake' stuff and VP

Havent read the thread, but IMO it went a bit overboard on the crowd milking. Wish hed of said something. Thought the same about Taker/Trips last yr too.

[Blakeamus]

Wtf did the vids mean damnit

What does it mean? WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!

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[GD]

TPWW is crashing. I wonder why?

[Blakeamus]

Would be pretty shitty if Brodus Clay debuts and gets injured...

[Xero]

The promos were never supposed to obviously connect to Jericho. However, if you really think about it, they, at the very least, loosely link to Jericho and are pretty clear that it's going to be a "different" Jericho.

The segment itself was great. He had them like putty in his hands at first, then the crowd slowly started to turn. I'd love to see him continue this for a few weeks, where he plays an over the top face character but the crowd ultimately turns on him. It reminded me a lot of his WCW character where he was so into himself, only this time it's because he knows he has control of the fans (CONTROL, by the way, was the title of one of the videos - CONNECTION!) and is setting it as a ruse. Honestly, I wouldn't have had it any other way. Way better than the standard come back as a legit face, cut a sickeningly sweet promo then turn heel over the course of a few weeks after turning on someone to show that he never changed. And changes things up from him coming right back as heel Jericho.

As for the rest of RAW, I enjoyed it. It wasn't the best, but there was enough there that it felt like it had a good flow and there wasn't any absolute shit on the show outside of the Divas match. It definitely starts the set up for the Rumble and establishes Barrett as a contender for winning the Rumble.

[Blakeamus]

I like how Xero gets it. :y:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I wouldn't be entirely surprised if we don't see Jericho again for a few weeks...maybe not even til the Rumble or the night after.

Point being he'll get a huge cheer again upon his arrival at which point he can properly heel out on the microphone and explain himself.</font>

[Razzamajazz]

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[Supreme Olajuwon]

Guys, I'm excited as the rest of you that Jericho is back, but if the only way they explain the it begins videos is that they were just a swerve, then that's pretty lame. And don't tell me that it worked because it got people to turn in. That's not clever.

Like I said before, I'm reserving judgment on the whole return until we see where they go with it. I doubt they're gonna make concrete statements like "she told me to return" and then leave it at that without any followup. So let's seeeeeeeeeeeeee.

[Xero]

Oh I think there will be an explanation. But I don't think there will be literal connections, like the girl is Stephanie or something.

Going back to that post I found a week or two ago, this makes complete sense. The girl is Punk - Punk, who has become an uber face - and Jericho is coming back to reclaim what is his - his spotlight, his title. In essence, Jericho was mocking Punk for turning into what he has. He was showing him "how it's done".

Obviously that's just speculation, but the videos don't need a literal meaning to actually connect and make sense.

[Blakeamus]

The only thing I see that had anything to do with a "swerve" is him coming down and not talking on the mic. Which everybody expected him to do. The videos I'm sure will become clearer as the weeks go by. You know that they start turning shit up towards the Rumble and the Road to Wrestlemania.

[#1-norm-fan]

Watching the first half of Raw right now... I hate how Miz sold that chest beating from Sheamus. It bugged me.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh I think there will be an explanation. But I don't think there will be literal connections, like the girl is Stephanie or something.

Going back to that post I found a week or two ago, this makes complete sense. The girl is Punk - Punk, who has become an uber face - and Jericho is coming back to reclaim what is his - his spotlight, his title. In essence, Jericho was mocking Punk for turning into what he has. He was showing him "how it's done".

Obviously that's just speculation, but the videos don't need a literal meaning to actually connect and make sense.

That would be perfect.

[Blakeamus]

I find it funny that this happened right after CM Punk's segment with Johnny Ace.

[Xero]

Watching the first half of Raw right now... I hate how Miz sold that chest beating from Sheamus. It bugged me.

That looked stiff as fuck on Sheamus' part.

[Blakeamus]

Yeah those shots are lethal

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah, I read something connecting Punk to the girl. She was looking over the boys shoulder, reading what he was writing and such as a reference to Punk stealing Jericho's ideas. Then she chased him out of the school at one point.

[#1-norm-fan]

That looked stiff as fuck on Sheamus' part.

And he was fucking relentless. lol. It wasn't ending.

And Miz kinda fell on the mat and gave an "ow" reaction before running full speed over the barrier.

[owenbrown]

lol Jericho and TPWW's server

[Juan]

Jericho looks to be in great shape. Can't wait to see him in the ring again, regardless of whether or not the videos made any sense.

That reception he got was pretty amazing too, considering how awful today's crowds can be.

[Aguakate]

Chris Jericho proved tonight he's great. He had the crowd cheering wildly for him, and within minutes, he had them booing him. Very few people can do that.

The heat he's going to get next week (assuming he shows up next week, of course) is going to be crazy.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

ok what? there were like 6 people booing him

[Aguakate]

ok what? there were like 6 people booing him

If you can't see where Jericho's character is heading, your name must be Ray Charles.



Thank you

[#1-norm-fan]

ok what? there were like 6 people booing him

When he was standing at the end of the ramp and turned to head to the back, the boos were pretty loud.

[Aguakate]

When he was standing at the end of the ramp and turned to head to the back, the boos were pretty loud.

Of course they were.

It was like the crowd turned on him within minutes.

It was f'n brilliant.

[#1-norm-fan]

After watching Jericho again, I was thinking... it would be cool if they go with an exaggerated Rock gimmick. Where Jericho literally thinks he's so huge that all he has to do is show up and do the bare minimum. He doesn't even turn heel, he just stays clueless because his ego makes him believe he can just show up when he feels like it and play to the crowd, collect a paycheck and leave.

[Blakeamus]

#brilliant!

[Aguakate]

After watching Jericho again, I was thinking... it would be cool if they go with an exaggerated Rock gimmick. Where Jericho literally thinks he's so huge that all he has to do is show up and do the bare minimum. He doesn't even turn heel, he just stays clueless because his ego makes him believe he can just show up when he feels like it and play to the crowd, collect a paycheck and leave.

Oh shit, I would love if they actually did this.

And have him look all hyper and happy as he does it, too.

[GD]

Wouldn't it be awesome if Jericho kept on trolling on RAW until everybody got sick of him and then gradually turn heel?

[St. Jimmy]

this was the worst raw in over two months. that's savage because beside punk and Bryan (and ziggles) they have been dog feces.

[#1-norm-fan]

This was the best Raw I've seen in a ridiculously long time.

[Juan]

this was the worst raw in over two months. that's savage because beside punk and Bryan (and ziggles) they have been dog feces.

This post pretty much confirms Raw was a good show

[Aguakate]

This was definitely the best RAW of the year, in my humble opinion.

[St. Jimmy]

You're all insane.

[Juan]

This was definitely the best RAW of the year, in my humble opinion.

It was also the first lol

[Aguakate]

It was also the first lol

You brain surgeon, you.

[Blakeamus]

It was also the first lol

The first GREAT one indeed! :p

[GD]

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[#1-norm-fan]

And now here's Primo's titantron

[Aguakate]

...why?

[Juan]

You brain surgeon, you.

Why would you call it the best Raw of the year if there are no other Raw's to compare it too?

That would be like SammyG calling the first Twilight book the best one ever even tho he's never read the rest.

[Blakeamus]

sarcasm?

[Aguakate]

Why would you call it the best Raw of the year if there are no other Raw's to compare it too?


You nincompoop, why do you think I did so?

I know what day I live in.

[Juan]

Because you're an idiot who goes on message boards and pretends he has a wife and kids to try to be cool?

[Aguakate]

Because you're an idiot who goes on message boards and pretends he has a wife and kids to try to be cool?

And because you're an idiot who not only believes everything he reads, but is also affected by it.

[Juan]

You keep trying to burn me for "believing" what I read, but what you don't understand that making up a wife and kids on a message board because you "felt like it" is beyond pathetic.

[Aguakate]

You keep trying to burn me for "believing" what I read, but what you don't understand that making up a wife and kids on a message board because you "felt like it" is beyond pathetic.

You seem to forget we are all characters, if you will, and as such, "making up things" is allowed.

IDK what you're on about. And how you hammer on it on every single thread is what's actually pathetic.

[Blakeamus]

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[Juan]

After tonight's WWE RAW Supershow in Memphis, Kane came back from underneath the ring and fought with John Cena. Cena knocked him out of the ring and announced a Memphis Street Fight.

The dark main event saw Jerry Lawler defeat Michael Cole in the Street Fight. Cole tried to leave but Daniel Bryan came down and brought him back to Lawler. Lawler pulled Cole's pants off and beat him around the ring before hitting a piledriver and fist drop for the win.

[Blakeamus]

piledriver and fist drop? I thought I had read a Stunner and then the fist drop?

[Raven Reaper]

I don't care if the crowd didn't like Jericho trolling and leaving, I'll always be a Jerichoholic.. That was cool.

And btw the girl in the 2012 video, lots and lots of people are throwing Stephanie's name around as his new manager and sidekick. In the video, the boy says, "SHE holds the mystery of my rebirth and when I beckon HER, I'll return to claim what is mine."

[James Steele]

Maybe it is Chyna and he is going for his 54th Intercontinental Championship?

[Autobahn]

I was able to appreciate the return as a fan. Think about this stuff way too much and you forget why you liked wrestling in the first place.

[Shisen Kopf]

What the WWE should have done to really make this a super dooper troll of epic proportions is have Lenny Lane come down and act like he is Jericho. Do this for a few weeks and when the real Jericho returns he's wearing a mask. He says the fans don't deserve to see him then he leaves. Until 2013.

[Shisen Kopf]

You keep trying to burn me for "believing" what I read, but what you don't understand that making up a wife and kids on a message board because you "felt like it" is beyond pathetic.

For the first time in 2012 all I gotta say is.......

SERIOUS BUSINESS!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Watched the Jericho thing again. It's well done but I'm a grump at 3:30am and didn't get what I want.

[CSL]

...it's not the 27th of December 2011

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Miss any or all of last night's RAW (including Jericho's incredible return)? Here's a chance to catch what you missed:
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Incredible.

[XCaliber]

Best shoe of the year so far! :shifty:

[#1-norm-fan]

Loved his match with Cody but man, Daniel Bryan is looking black and dreadlocky these days.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

hahaha DAMN iNATOR

[DAMN iNATOR]

Miss any or all of last night's RAW (including Jericho's incredible return)? Here's a chance to catch what you missed:

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Fixed. Sorry for the earlier post. Somehow the results page for the search "RAW 1 2 12 FULL SHOW" ended up including the 12/26 episode. :$:$:$:$:$:$

[Emperor Smeat]

Well, we all know a gif of R-Truth's duck impression will surface in the very near future.

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[GD]

That was the highlight of RAW.