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Destor
01-30-2012, 01:10 AM
talking the outcome of the rumble obviously: are you pissed, sad, dissapointed, curious, excited, pleased? Destor wants to know.

SammyG
01-30-2012, 01:12 AM
Disappointed. Ultimately trolled.

Providence Peep
01-30-2012, 01:14 AM
SPOILER ALERT?

Destor
01-30-2012, 01:15 AM
i in no way spoiled anything

Sting Fan
01-30-2012, 01:16 AM
I don't mind it to much. I remember thinking the other night Shaemus seemed to be getting a limbo push, lots of wins but going nowhere. Now he has direction.

Jericho didn't need the win so I don't mind on that count but it is annoying his angle appears to have no payoff. Very disappointing in that respect.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-30-2012, 01:17 AM
curious

Destor
01-30-2012, 01:17 AM
I don't mind it to much. I remember thinking the other night Shaemus seemed to be getting a limbo push, lots of wins but going nowhere. Now he has direction.

Jericho didn't need the win so I don't mind on that count but it is annoying his angle appears to have no payoff. Very disappointing in that respect.
safe to say the story hasnt been told yet

Sting Fan
01-30-2012, 01:21 AM
Yeah just frustrating that he was so specific.

If it was just your average wrestler rant it wouldn't be so bad but on the back of a big return it seems a waste.

eazey
01-30-2012, 01:21 AM
I would say I am curious to see where they go with him. He didn't need the Rumble to be a contender for the title so no harm no foul. They just need to get to the point of "The End of the World "?

Destor
01-30-2012, 01:24 AM
Yeah just frustrating that he was so specific.

If it was just your average wrestler rant it wouldn't be so bad but on the back of a big return it seems a waste.i think thats the angle tho. the failure. he was SURE (like everyoen else) that the rumble was his...and he failed? so now what? should be very fun.

Dirk Ziggler
01-30-2012, 01:32 AM
You guys have to stop making excuses for Jericho. It's like you're in denial. This return is officially fucked. No matter what the message ends up being. It will have lost all if its momentum.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-30-2012, 01:35 AM
That's cool. Still gonna form my own opinion though.

Destor
01-30-2012, 01:37 AM
You guys have to stop making excuses for Jericho. It's like you're in denial. This return is officially fucked. No matter what the message ends up being. It will have lost all if its momentum.cool story bro

screech
01-30-2012, 01:38 AM
It's Jericho. I'm interested.

dronepool
01-30-2012, 01:41 AM
Disappointed but curious.

Supreme Olajuwon
01-30-2012, 01:44 AM
was trying to come up with a witty response to dronepool's post but the best I could come up with is "sigh-curious" and that's terrible

so I'm just gonna quit

Ruien
01-30-2012, 01:47 AM
Confused.

Droford
01-30-2012, 02:18 AM
Jericho pissed me off because of Tipsters. Can't believe I had Sheamus/Jericho final two and botched it backwards.

Im assuming we're getting Sheamus/Daniel Bryan at WM? If you had said this time last year that the WHC Match at WM 28 would be that I think people would have had you committed. As for Jericho, Im sure Jericho/Punk will happen, they just aren't going to make it so obvious.

Destor
01-30-2012, 02:40 AM
I expected a lot more anger, bravo.

CSL
01-30-2012, 03:33 AM
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Stop whining.....

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Juan
01-30-2012, 03:37 AM
lol

Mr. Nerfect
01-30-2012, 03:43 AM
Jericho really didn't need the win. I'd have accepted a Jericho victory, and think it would have propelled storylines ahead nicely -- but I think Jericho is smart enough to know he doesn't need to win a Royal Rumble to be main event. With no Shawn Michaels around anymore, Jericho instantly becomes the most solid all-round performer in professional wrestling. Bitching because Jericho didn't win this year is like bitching that HBK didn't win in 2007. Sort of.

I'm curious, because I have no clue where Jericho will go with this storyline (and that seems to be the intention). Sheamus could challenge either Daniel Bryan or CM Punk, but I'm not sure which match or feud I would rather see. I guess Bryan vs. Sheamus makes more sense, and would help Sheamus get to that next level as a main event babyface. With Sheamus as the winner, I guess they can also make a storyline out of the Royal Rumble "curse," with no Rumble winner successfully becoming World Champion at WrestleMania since The Undertaker did it in 2007.

So, I guess you could say I am definitely curious. I'm not completely blown away by anything just yet, though. It's more about where they go from here.

KaosDarksol
01-30-2012, 03:44 AM
I had a feeling we were going to see Seamus vs Bryan and I'm glad they pulled that nice swerve, but from reading the results the rumble seemed to lack it's usual excitement. Guess I'm gonna have to watch it for myself

RVDmark
01-30-2012, 08:16 AM
Looked forward to Jericho returning, then he returns but doesn't speak, so I look forward to him speaking. Then he finally speaks, and points that the rumble will be the end of the world as we know it, and.....nothing happens.

Talk about lackluster. I dont care that he didn't win you don't have to win a match to make something exciting happen during the match, but nothing exciting happened.

Sheamus winning :y:

Kane Knight
01-30-2012, 10:00 AM
i in no way spoiled anything

Now I know Chris Jericho was somehow involved in the Rumble! You BASTARD!

whiteyford
01-30-2012, 10:09 AM
Ruined tipsters for me but theres usually another twist at the Elimination Chamber PPV as well. Pretty much everyone was convinced Jericho was winning the Rumble,maybe it was just too obvious, and like a few other people have pointed out he didnt need the win. I dont believe it was a spur of the moment decision to have Sheamus win the Rumble over Jericho,so im curious where Jericho is going with this.

Skippord
01-30-2012, 10:11 AM
pleased, :heart: Sheamus

Innovator
01-30-2012, 10:18 AM
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OldSchoolFan
01-30-2012, 10:28 AM
I wonder if he was possibly alluding to Kharma return or something else that appears totally unrelated to him... The only reason I point out Kharma was the whole "she" thing from his vids.

Just in case people haven't seen the Rumble or read that part yet,unlikely but hey it could happen

Innovator
01-30-2012, 10:28 AM
There is no fucking need for spoiler tags on an event that happened yesterday. That is ridiculous.

OldSchoolFan
01-30-2012, 10:31 AM
I was just trying to be considerate of people who may have had to work or whatever and did not know about that part...

Innovator
01-30-2012, 10:34 AM
Then they shouldn't be in a wrestling forum.

OldSchoolFan
01-30-2012, 10:36 AM
Well I agree but I am trying to stay on peoples good side and be a good R-Truth... errr ummm OldSchoolFan I Mean

Kane Knight
01-30-2012, 10:59 AM
Wow. Complaining about someone not being a dick. Classy.

XL
01-30-2012, 11:00 AM
Nowhere near as outraged as a lot of people are about it. They can still do Punk v Jericho and it could start as easily as Punk interrupting Jericho and bragging about how he delivered (on his promise to retaine whilst Jericho failed. I know that messes with the Face/Heel dynamic but Punk is hardly a "normal" face.

Meanwhile, over on SmackDown I can see them building to a Fatal Fourway for the title at Mania. Don't me wrong, Sheamus vs Bryan will deliver in the ring, it's just not a "headline match". Add Barrett and Orton into the mix and you have a pretty sweet setup IMO.

All in all, let's see how it plays out. People bitched about TNA "pulling the rug" on Roode with the Bound For Glory result only for TNA to establish Roode AND Storm in the Main Event picture. We ask for long term planning, then bitchfit over one instance.

Innovator
01-30-2012, 11:27 AM
Wow. Complaining about someone not being a dick. Classy.

Not him specifically, just the act.

Dirk Ziggler
01-30-2012, 11:55 AM
Looked forward to Jericho returning, then he returns but doesn't speak, so I look forward to him speaking. Then he finally speaks, and points that the rumble will be the end of the world as we know it, and.....nothing happens.

Talk about lackluster. I dont care that he didn't win you don't have to win a match to make something exciting happen during the match, but nothing exciting happened.

Sheamus winning :y:

Exactly...could care less that Jericho didn't win. I like Sheamus. But the whole Jericho return has been a let down, week after week. I kept crossing my fingers and holding my breath only to be disappointed one final time. So who cares where it goes. Fucking get to the point so we can get some classic Jericho back on the mic.

As far as Sheamus goes. I hope to God Daniel Bryan looses the title at elimination chamber. How shitty of a match would that be? This Daniel Bryan title run became stale the very second that douche noodle won the title. Daniel Bryan is not WM headliner material.

MisterLee
01-30-2012, 12:53 PM
Jericho didn't lie. He showed up at Royal Rumble, didn't win, and you guys act like its the end of the world.

Kane Knight
01-30-2012, 12:54 PM
Not him specifically, just the act.

Oh, so you're complaining about the general act of not being a dick.

MisterLee
01-30-2012, 12:55 PM
Exactly...could care less that Jericho didn't win. I like Sheamus. But the whole Jericho return has been a let down, week after week. I kept crossing my fingers and holding my breath only to be disappointed one final time. So who cares where it goes. Fucking get to the point so we can get some classic Jericho back on the mic.

As far as Sheamus goes. I hope to God Daniel Bryan looses the title at elimination chamber. How shitty of a match would that be? This Daniel Bryan title run became stale the very second that douche noodle won the title. Daniel Bryan is not WM headliner material.

Yeah i hate Daniel Bryan...and not in a way that will make me want to watch that douche wrestle.

Innovator
01-30-2012, 12:56 PM
Oh, so you're complaining about the general act of not being a dick.

Leave your arguing to the discussion forum. There is a reason I don't go in there.

Innovator
01-30-2012, 12:58 PM
Anyways, you're a good oldskeulfan. Competent members to the forum are welcome.

Kane Knight
01-30-2012, 01:02 PM
Leave your arguing to the discussion forum. There is a reason I don't go in there.

Leave your arguing out of the wrestling forum if you don't want arguing here. Don't be a damn hypocrite. There wouldn't be any content here if you weren't bitching about someone daring to show some minor consideration to others.

Kane Knight
01-30-2012, 01:03 PM
Jericho didn't lie. He showed up at Royal Rumble, didn't win, and you guys act like its the end of the world.

And I feel fine. :D

MoFo
01-30-2012, 01:04 PM
safe to say the story hasnt been told yet


Thats the whole point in why its disappointing.

He said "at the rumble its gonna be the end of the world", and nothing happened.

I dont care that he didnt win, prefer Sheamus tbh, but no payoff is very poor.

I'll gladly be over it if all is revealed tonight, tho.

Innovator
01-30-2012, 01:04 PM
Leave your arguing out of the wrestling forum if you don't want arguing here. Don't be a damn hypocrite. There wouldn't be any content here if you weren't bitching about someone daring to show some minor consideration to others.

He was showing consideration yes, but cmon. Spoilers for Smackdown are ok, but if you don't want to get spoiled for the Rumble don't come into a forum at day later. It's common sense. That was my standing.

Also, learn what a hypocrite is. Jackass/asshole would've worked better.

Innovator
01-30-2012, 01:06 PM
BACK ON TOPIC.

I liked the Sheamus win because it was a surprise. I'll be interested to see how they get to Punk/Jericho, but they'll probably use the chamber.

MisterLee
01-30-2012, 01:55 PM
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Aikido
01-30-2012, 02:02 PM
Alright, check it out, monday, jericho said "At the Royal rumble, the world as you know it ends" alright now, jericho lost the rumble as we all saw, and if you remember his return/promo vids, at the end of the video the words "prophetless" appeared, now making a statement of that propportion and than it not coming true, makes you a "false prophet" hence we are now "prophetless", i dont think the videos are telling us why he returned, i think each video tells you what he WILL be doing as time unfolds, i think the videos will lead all the way up to WM until they've all ben fulfilled, remember Jericho is a fucking genious, he re-invents himself everytime.......

MisterLee
01-30-2012, 02:06 PM
Alright, check it out, monday, jericho said "At the Royal rumble, the world as you know it ends" alright now, jericho lost the rumble as we all saw, and if you remember his return/promo vids, at the end of the video the words "prophetless" appeared, now making a statement of that propportion and than it not coming true, makes you a "false prophet" hence we are now "prophetless", i dont think the videos are telling us why he returned, i think each video tells you what he WILL be doing as time unfolds, i think the videos will lead all the way up to WM until they've all ben fulfilled, remember Jericho is a fucking genious, he re-invents himself everytime.......

I can dig it.

Xero
01-30-2012, 02:10 PM
Like I said in the Rumble thread, I like Sheamus winning because it opens Jericho's storyline up and doesn't give them the cop-out of "Jericho is Rumble winner, he faces CM Punk". It'll be more natural I think.

Sheamus could use it more, anyway, especially after a month or so of squashing Jinder Mahal.

Rammsteinmad
01-30-2012, 02:15 PM
I'm disappointed about it, but Sheamus winning was a nice twist. As soon as it came down to Jericho and Sheamus I was so sure Jericho would be winning. And to be fair, it's not like Sheamus hasn't earned it.

Aikido
01-30-2012, 02:17 PM
I'm disappointed about it, but Sheamus winning was a nice twist. As soon as it came down to Jericho and Sheamus I was so sure Jericho would be winning. And to be fair, it's not like Sheamus hasn't earned it.


Agreed, Sheamus us a work horse

Hanso Amore
01-30-2012, 02:18 PM
Im tired of the "Jericho didnt need the win".

What does that even mean? He is a big star before and after? OK. So Orton, HHH, Taker, Cena didnt need the win either, it just made sense for the storyline.

Here is the thing the PRO Jericho crowd in this case dont seem to get. No one is complaining he "didnt win". They are upset as There was build to absolutely nothing. But then many people just disregard it as "people upset their guy didnt win".

Jerichos return was a major angle. All leading to last night, with no payoff. Sure, things could be great from here on out, but that doesn't mean people cant be disappointed to this point.

Its less that Jericho didnt win, and more that his storyline is muddled, directionless and hasnt produced much in a month plus.

Xero
01-30-2012, 02:22 PM
It wasn't leading to last night, though. It's leading to WrestleMania.

I'll swing more to your side if we don't see some movement in the next month, but this is a slow build. It's not *BAM MAIN EVENT*. I like that it's going to take more than a month to see exactly where it's going. And that's a big thing wrestling has been missing, longer builds that, in the end, mean a lot.

Hanso Amore
01-30-2012, 02:25 PM
It wasn't leading to last night, though. It's leading to WrestleMania.

I'll swing more to your side if we don't see some movement in the next month, but this is a slow build. It's not *BAM MAIN EVENT*. I like that it's going to take more than a month to see exactly where it's going. And that's a big thing wrestling has been missing, longer builds that, in the end, mean a lot.

Oh shit, thanks for pointing this out. I totally must have missed that bit about how all his Vignettes talked about the end of the world as we know it...and then he came out last week and said that "AT WRESTLEMANIA (Not the Royal Rumble) would be the end of the world as we know it.".

Yeah, totally wasnt built to the Rumble. You are absolutely basing the idea it was made to build to WM on NO facts, and just your own hunches.

Hanso Amore
01-30-2012, 02:26 PM
This "long Build" is totally fabricated within the minds of Jericho Fans. There HAS BEEN ZERO build to this point, especially to Mania. Could that change? Sure. But stop dropping that phrase like it is at all real.

Juan
01-30-2012, 02:28 PM
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Blakeamus
01-30-2012, 02:29 PM
Would anyone of you rather Cena win and be in the scenerio of choosing between a WWE title match or Rock? :shifty:

Nowhere Man
01-30-2012, 02:35 PM
Wait, how did that become part of the argument?

Jordan
01-30-2012, 02:36 PM
Jericho losing is going to make him a much better heel, Hanso chill out. You're being a big baby because you don't have all the answers yet so you'll have to watch Raw to get them. Don't you think that is the point?

Also at the moment it doesn't seem likely you'll get Punk vs Jericho at Mania. I think we may get Punk/Triple H from where the story is at the moment and perhaps Jericho/Taker.

I could see Taker picking Jericho because of their mutual respect for one and other.

Blakeamus
01-30-2012, 02:36 PM
Oh shit, thanks for pointing this out. I totally must have missed that bit about how all his Vignettes talked about the end of the world as we know it...and then he came out last week and said that "AT WRESTLEMANIA (Not the Royal Rumble) would be the end of the world as we know it.".

Yeah, totally wasnt built to the Rumble. You are absolutely basing the idea it was made to build to WM on NO facts, and just your own hunches.

Just a hunch, but Jericho was doing what everyone else was blabbering about. He came out and made his claim that he has entered the rumble and was going to win it. Santino had a freakin crystal ball that showed him winning the rumble! All that build up with disappointing results! Also bummed that Foley didn't win after the build of him entering the rumble and having his kids watch him in the WM title match. What a shame!

Hanso Amore
01-30-2012, 02:37 PM
Would anyone of you rather Cena win and be in the scenerio of choosing between a WWE title match or Rock? :shifty:

Are you snacking on Paint chips?

Hanso Amore
01-30-2012, 02:39 PM
Just a hunch, but Jericho was doing what everyone else was blabbering about. He came out and made his claim that he has entered the rumble and was going to win it. Santino had a freakin crystal ball that showed him winning the rumble! All that build up with disappointing results! Also bummed that Foley didn't win after the build of him entering the rumble and having his kids watch him in the WM title match. What a shame!

Yes. Totally the same thing.

Im not sure why I am even responding. This is clearly just a garbage response. You are just trying to find ways to suckle at the "JERICHO CAN DO NO WRONG" teet.

Blakeamus
01-30-2012, 02:40 PM
Are you snacking on Paint chips?

It was sarcasm.

Hanso Amore
01-30-2012, 02:42 PM
Jericho losing is going to make him a much better heel, Hanso chill out. You're being a big baby because you don't have all the answers yet so you'll have to watch Raw to get them. Don't you think that is the point?

Also at the moment it doesn't seem likely you'll get Punk vs Jericho at Mania. I think we may get Punk/Triple H from where the story is at the moment and perhaps Jericho/Taker.

I could see Taker picking Jericho because of their mutual respect for one and other.

There is no answers, because there is no "Questions". Why are you making stuff up. The Answer is that jericho's return to this point has been garbage, and has lost any steam it had. Nothing has made any sense, and has no direction.

You Jericho Nuts are the 1 percent of the WWE audience. You are making up your own ideas, and treating them like fact. The other 99 percent have seen the actual results, and dont care anymore.

Blakeamus
01-30-2012, 02:45 PM
Yes. Totally the same thing.

Im not sure why I am even responding. This is clearly just a garbage response. You are just trying to find ways to suckle at the "JERICHO CAN DO NO WRONG" teet.

I would of rather Jericho win it, but keeping it wide open and what will happen next with him would be more interesting. Not going at you with the "Jericho can do no wrong," just think that you might be reading into it a little too much. Chill.

Jordan
01-30-2012, 02:47 PM
There is no answers, because there is no "Questions". Why are you making stuff up. The Answer is that jericho's return to this point has been garbage, and has lost any steam it had. Nothing has made any sense, and has no direction.

You Jericho Nuts are the 1 percent of the WWE audience. You are making up your own ideas, and treating them like fact. The other 99 percent have seen the actual results, and dont care anymore.

I'm not a Jericho nut. I'm also smart enough to see that his whole new "conception" is to work the marks. I don't think it's a disaster at all so far, and I think it's perfect that he didn't win the Rumble, much less predictable.

Hanso Amore
01-30-2012, 02:49 PM
I would of rather Jericho win it, but keeping it wide open and what will happen next with him would be more interesting. Not going at you with the "Jericho can do no wrong," just think that you might be reading into it a little too much. Chill.

Right. Im not saying it cant get good. But to act like people who are currently disappointed are Whining or should calm down is the problem. The current story has been a let down, not a single person can deny it with "Well lets see where it goes". Tonight Jericho could blow all of our minds.

Doesnt meant the last month wasnt shit.

Blakeamus
01-30-2012, 02:49 PM
I'm not a Jericho nut. I'm also smart enough to see that his whole new "conception" is to work the marks. I don't think it's a disaster at all so far, and I think it's perfect that he didn't win the Rumble, much less predictable.

Exactly.

Jordan
01-30-2012, 02:50 PM
Right. Im not saying it cant get good. But to act like people who are currently disappointed are Whining or should calm down is the problem. The current story has been a let down, not a single person can deny it with "Well lets see where it goes". Tonight Jericho could blow all of our minds.

Doesnt meant the last month wasnt shit.

I see your point but I've been entertained by it so it's not shit to me, I haven't been disappointed, more surprised and intrigued.

Blakeamus
01-30-2012, 02:51 PM
You have a right to complain Hanso, but the majority feels that this build hasn't been garbage.

Hanso Amore
01-30-2012, 02:52 PM
I'm not a Jericho nut. I'm also smart enough to see that his whole new "conception" is to work the marks. I don't think it's a disaster at all so far, and I think it's perfect that he didn't win the Rumble, much less predictable.

Once again, completely making up your own take. NEW CONCEPTIONS! Based on what? That is the part that makes me scratch my head.

From the night of the return people have been loving this NEW HEEL JERICHO (who is anything but a heel at this point) and how he is SHIFTING PARADIGMS and BLAZING NEW TRAILs or whatever buzz words you want to use.

Based on NOTHING. Blind Faith in "Jericho".

Remember his last "return"? He was jobbing to JBL a month in. It is all speculation that he is doing anything special, or building to anything at this point.

Blakeamus
01-30-2012, 02:52 PM
JERICHO CAN DO NO WRONG

Hanso Amore
01-30-2012, 02:53 PM
I see your point but I've been entertained by it so it's not shit to me, I haven't been disappointed, more surprised and intrigued.

Thats Fine and Dandy. Good for you. I am not saying you cant enjoy this, or shouldnt have. Hasnt ever been the case.

Hanso Amore
01-30-2012, 02:54 PM
JERICHO CAN DO NO WRONG

Legit lol'ed here. :rofl: You got me.

Blakeamus
01-30-2012, 02:55 PM
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Blakeamus
01-30-2012, 02:55 PM
Legit lol'ed here. :rofl: You got me.

Just trying to lighten up the mood in here...

MisterLee
01-30-2012, 03:26 PM
The reason WWE officials decided on having Sheamus win the 2012 WWE Royal Rumble match was to throw a curve ball at numerous fans who were expecting Chris Jericho to win. The line Michael Cole used on commentary in which he asked what title Sheamus would challenge for at WrestleMania 28 was designed to make fans believe the storylines were just shaken up big time.

It should also be noted that WWE officials are high on the way Sheamus presents himself backstage and in public. They’ve had plans to push him hard for the past year or so.

Sincerely,
Ryan Clark

CSL
01-30-2012, 03:29 PM
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CSL
01-30-2012, 03:32 PM
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MisterLee
01-30-2012, 03:32 PM
(copied word for word from elsewhere)

Exactly. LOL

XL
01-30-2012, 03:48 PM
Jericho didn't lie. He showed up at Royal Rumble, didn't win, and you guys act like its the end of the world.
That's why people are complaining, because it WASN'T the end of the world (as ye know it).

Wait, how did that become part of the argument?

Originally Posted by TPWW front page
There was a creative plan in place for the WWE Royal Rumble pay-per-view that would have seen John Cena enter, win the match and earn a title shot at WrestleMania 28. As the storyline would have gone, Cena would have been forced to choose between a WWE Title match or a match against The Rock at WrestleMania 28. Obviously that didn’t happen.

That's how.

Destor
01-30-2012, 04:14 PM
I was just trying to be considerate of people who may have had to work or whatever and did not know about that part...
again, nothing was spoiled and if you couldnt figure out that the answers to my question would have spoilers then you're retarded and deserve to be spoiled.

Destor
01-30-2012, 04:15 PM
Thats the whole point in why its disappointing.

He said "at the rumble its gonna be the end of the world", and nothing happened.

I dont care that he didnt win, prefer Sheamus tbh, but no payoff is very poor.

I'll gladly be over it if all is revealed tonight, tho.
the pay off was always going to be at mania for this whether he won or not.

Destor
01-30-2012, 04:17 PM
Im tired of the "Jericho didnt need the win".

What does that even mean? He is a big star before and after? OK. So Orton, HHH, Taker, Cena didnt need the win either, it just made sense for the storyline.

Here is the thing the PRO Jericho crowd in this case dont seem to get. No one is complaining he "didnt win". They are upset as There was build to absolutely nothing. But then many people just disregard it as "people upset their guy didnt win".

Jerichos return was a major angle. All leading to last night, with no payoff. Sure, things could be great from here on out, but that doesn't mean people cant be disappointed to this point.

Its less that Jericho didnt win, and more that his storyline is muddled, directionless and hasnt produced much in a month plus.the best part of this argument is you're spoiled by kayfabe being too predictable.

Destor
01-30-2012, 04:21 PM
Jericho winning wasnt the angle. its called a swerve. stay calm hanso.

Tazz Dan
01-30-2012, 04:26 PM
I think by Jericho not winning, It's the end of the world as Hasno knows it.

I can't see why he's pissed about it, he really got what he wanted.

James Steele
01-30-2012, 04:39 PM
Hanso...just quit bitching.

Swiss Ultimate
01-30-2012, 04:41 PM
So "the end of the world as we know it" didn't mean that Abyss was debuting at Rumble?

Captain of Fun
01-30-2012, 05:01 PM
No one even knows for sure what he meant when he said it. Ever think it might have been just a typical "I'm gonna win the runble" throw away comment, just in a more cryptic style, fitting his new character?

MisterLee
01-30-2012, 05:10 PM
Maybe..I'm sure there's a deeper meaning to it all.

Hanso Amore
01-30-2012, 05:27 PM
I would just love for Jericho to come out tonight and start a program with the Miz or some crap, and not Punk. Would be so satisfying.

Destor
01-30-2012, 05:28 PM
I would just love for Jericho to come out tonight and start a program with the Miz or some crap, and not Punk. Would be so satisfying.
I'd watch it :y:

Destor
01-30-2012, 05:29 PM
either we bitch because everything is too predictable or we bitch because we didnt get what we want. fun times.

DLVH84
01-30-2012, 05:37 PM
Jericho is very smart. He knows what buttons to push. Hopefully, it's him vs. Undertaker at WrestleMania this year.

Graveler
01-30-2012, 06:12 PM
No one even knows for sure what he meant when he said it. Ever think it might have been just a typical "I'm gonna win the runble" throw away comment, just in a more cryptic style, fitting his new character?

Looking at what he said again , I feel like with the promos and "the end of the world" is moving through a heel turn in regards to die hard fans. You know, people who think its the end of the world because their "prophet" didn't win a match over someone who use it. Something like that. After all, he never said anything about winning and going to Wrestlemania. I'll watch RAW tonight so I can have a more well rounded opinion of whether his return failed.

As for what I think, I'm glad that Sheamus won although I'm not crazy about him v. Bryan at Wrestlemania.

RGWhat316
01-30-2012, 07:04 PM
My problem isnt so much with Jericho not winning, but just not a big fan of Sheamus and the fact that he won with zero build-up. I trust that Jericho knows what he is doing and long-term booking, I just dont trust the writing crew and last nights winner was the perfect example of that.

Destor
01-30-2012, 07:06 PM
My problem isnt so much with Jericho not winning, but just not a big fan of Sheamus and the fact that he won with zero build-up. I trust that Jericho knows what he is doing and long-term booking, I just dont trust the writing crew and last nights winner was the perfect example of that.
by "zero build up" do you mean "hasnt lost a match in 3 months?"

Aikido
01-30-2012, 07:08 PM
by "zero build up" do you mean "hasnt lost a match in 3 months?"
he lost a tables match to barrett 2 weeks ago

Destor
01-30-2012, 07:15 PM
ok so thats one then

Aikido
01-30-2012, 07:17 PM
ok so thats one then
yea i honestly think thats it too, i thought something was up last night, when he came out, first thing i said was, sheamus has a new outfit, wonder what thats all about

Destor
01-30-2012, 07:20 PM
alls im saying is standing on a pedistal and saying "this is what we're doing" isnt the only way to push a guy.

Attitude99
01-30-2012, 07:26 PM
Sheamus winning, i really like that. Jericho doesn't needed that win. He's Already a Main Eventer, Rumble Win or not. Get over jerichodick.

RGWhat316
01-30-2012, 10:04 PM
by "zero build up" do you mean "hasnt lost a match in 3 months?"

Maybe not zero build up, but more hasnt done much relevant in the last couple of months. A feud with Jinder Mahal? Doesnt sound like someone who is about to be pushed for a title match. I would have accepted Cody winning the Rumble moreso than Sheamus.

Destor
01-30-2012, 11:26 PM
laughing at hanso right now

Hanso Amore
01-31-2012, 12:31 AM
laughing at hanso right now

Go ahead. First Interesting thing that has happened. But still nothing has "made sense".

END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT

Randomly attack champ.

Way to live up.

I stand by my statements.

Next week will be make or break.

Destor
01-31-2012, 12:33 AM
Go ahead. First Interesting thing that has happened. But still nothing has "made sense".

END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT

Randomly attack champ.

Way to live up.

I stand by my statements.

Next week will be make or break.
you're talking about it an awful lot, hard to say it's "the first interesting thing that has happend." at this point you've commited to hating it so i'll stop trolling you.

Captain of Fun
01-31-2012, 04:11 AM
Again. Slow build. Still a while before wrestlemania.

Why are people so impatient?

Fuck it. wrestlemania is too far away. Let's just have Rock vs Cena on superstars this week.

Jordan
01-31-2012, 04:21 AM
Go ahead. First Interesting thing that has happened. But still nothing has "made sense".

END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT

Randomly attack champ.

Way to live up.

I stand by my statements.

Next week will be make or break.

I am not usually impressed with a random attack to start a feud so I'm in the same boat as you here. Plus he stopped a fantastic match.

Destor
01-31-2012, 04:29 AM
I am not usually impressed with a random attack to start a feud so I'm in the same boat as you here. Plus he stopped a fantastic match.
you always have the heel interrupt a match the poeple are crazy into, thats what gets the heat...

Jordan
01-31-2012, 04:31 AM
Yeah it worked on me :(

Mr. Nerfect
01-31-2012, 05:13 AM
Yeah, cannot believe most of the anti-Sheamus and "Jericho should have won" arguments here. The thing is, we won't know until WrestleMania how this Jericho stuff goes -- but Jericho did not need to win the Royal Rumble. Winning it takes Sheamus to the next level, however. It builds up Sheamus, which is what people are talking about. For Sheamus, his dominant streak combined with his Rumble win are what is going to make him a top attraction at WrestleMania this year -- and he'll possibly be kicking the annoying head off Daniel Bryan (in kayfabe). I have a feeling that waters will get murky through Elimination Chamber, however. I can see Randy Orton and Wade Barrett ending up in the World Title picture.

The thing is, if Jericho's character needed the victory, I'm sure the WWE would have given Jericho's character the victory. Jericho obviously doesn't need the Rumble, and we'll see that in coming weeks. Somehow not winning the Rumble will become his "thing" -- a trigger that really pushes Jericho and reveals what his true motivations are.

But the way he's done it has also helped Sheamus become a top-tier babyface officially. Good work, Jericho. :y:

BigCrippyZ
01-31-2012, 06:08 AM
I have no problem with Sheamus winning the Rumble over Jericho, or anyone else for that matter. I think Sheamus is great and has a lot of potential and great future ahead. My issue is how they've handled Jericho's return and new gimmick so far.

At first he came back and was over the top babyface who refused/couldn't bring himself to speak. We get a few weeks of basically the exact same segment(s). Okay it started to get old but I could tolerate it, hoping we would get some kind of answer soon at the Rumble.

Then he finally speaks and I'm paraphrasing, but he implies that essentially "all will be revealed at the Royal Rumble and you will all be shocked!" Awesome! Finally a pay off, or at least a continuation of the storyline and gimmick. Something!

Come time for the Rumble and what happens with Jericho? NOTHING! He makes it to the final two, gets eliminated by Sheamus and then nothing. No promo, no explanation, no pay off, no continuation, no post match attack, no reveal of master plan, just nothing.

Now I'm not saying they won't eventually turn this into something good and I won't end up enjoying it, but at this point I really don't care. In fact, after watching the Rumble, I didn't even watch Raw. I don't doubt that Jericho vs Punk would be a great match, but at this point Jericho has given me nothing to care about but promises and disappointment.

There are lots of guys that can have great matches, so why should I want to see these two guys feud? Why is Jericho back? Why is he going after Punk now? Why didn't he just come back his first night on Raw and just attack Punk then? I understand that I could be forced to eat my own words eventually, and I really hope I am wrong right now.

After Jericho made his "end of the world" statement about the Rumble, outside of the Punk/Ziggler match, the only other reason I bought the Rumble was to see what was going to happen with Jericho. Needless to say, I was really disappointed. To me, you don't just promise a paying customer something and then not deliver.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-31-2012, 09:42 AM
I didn't want Jericho to win the Rumble as I thought it would be pretty obvious that he would after speaking on Raw. What I was hoping is that it would be a side-story during the Rumble.

I get that it could be leading to something else, but don't say "at the Rumble" and then have nothing occur. Cryptic stuff is fine with a longer-term payoff (although I'm still gutted we never found out what The Nexus' bigger picture was), but don't suggest that something about your angle will occur at a PPV and not do anything with it.

Even taking a couple of minutes off the final 2 matchup and have Jericho destroy Sheamus with a chair, grab a mic and say that winning the Rumble was only one option to bring about the end of the world. Would have added extra intrigue to the angle with a little payoff.

Hanso Amore
01-31-2012, 10:50 AM
The only slow build I see on TV that makes any sense is the slow Daniel Bryan Heel Turn. THat has been done well.

Jericho should take note.

Hanso Amore
01-31-2012, 11:16 AM
I didn't want Jericho to win the Rumble as I thought it would be pretty obvious that he would after speaking on Raw. What I was hoping is that it would be a side-story during the Rumble.

I get that it could be leading to something else, but don't say "at the Rumble" and then have nothing occur. Cryptic stuff is fine with a longer-term payoff (although I'm still gutted we never found out what The Nexus' bigger picture was), but don't suggest that something about your angle will occur at a PPV and not do anything with it.

Even taking a couple of minutes off the final 2 matchup and have Jericho destroy Sheamus with a chair, grab a mic and say that winning the Rumble was only one option to bring about the end of the world. Would have added extra intrigue to the angle with a little payoff.

OMG HASNEY CALM DOWN STOP WHINING BE PATIENT.

Seriously though, this is what I have been saying. Something needed to happen. ANYTHING. Even a tease. But nothing went down, which is what was disappointing. Win or lose, at least acknowledge the build up. Plant the seeds.

Hanso Amore
01-31-2012, 11:17 AM
I have no problem with Sheamus winning the Rumble over Jericho, or anyone else for that matter. I think Sheamus is great and has a lot of potential and great future ahead. My issue is how they've handled Jericho's return and new gimmick so far.

At first he came back and was over the top babyface who refused/couldn't bring himself to speak. We get a few weeks of basically the exact same segment(s). Okay it started to get old but I could tolerate it, hoping we would get some kind of answer soon at the Rumble.

Then he finally speaks and I'm paraphrasing, but he implies that essentially "all will be revealed at the Royal Rumble and you will all be shocked!" Awesome! Finally a pay off, or at least a continuation of the storyline and gimmick. Something!

Come time for the Rumble and what happens with Jericho? NOTHING! He makes it to the final two, gets eliminated by Sheamus and then nothing. No promo, no explanation, no pay off, no continuation, no post match attack, no reveal of master plan, just nothing.

Now I'm not saying they won't eventually turn this into something good and I won't end up enjoying it, but at this point I really don't care. In fact, after watching the Rumble, I didn't even watch Raw. I don't doubt that Jericho vs Punk would be a great match, but at this point Jericho has given me nothing to care about but promises and disappointment.

There are lots of guys that can have great matches, so why should I want to see these two guys feud? Why is Jericho back? Why is he going after Punk now? Why didn't he just come back his first night on Raw and just attack Punk then? I understand that I could be forced to eat my own words eventually, and I really hope I am wrong right now.

After Jericho made his "end of the world" statement about the Rumble, outside of the Punk/Ziggler match, the only other reason I bought the Rumble was to see what was going to happen with Jericho. Needless to say, I was really disappointed. To me, you don't just promise a paying customer something and then not deliver.

Good Post.

MoFo
01-31-2012, 01:38 PM
Hasney, Hanso and BigCrippyZ get it.

:y:

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-31-2012, 04:13 PM
I think he was just saying he was going to be in the rumble.

Ol Dirty Dastard
01-31-2012, 04:14 PM
And was "confident" (kayfabe-wise) that he'd win.

Swish
01-31-2012, 06:08 PM
When Jericho stated "At the rumble, it would be the end of the world". I was pumped up and excited for something amazing to happen. But I then started to realize he was just trolling. In all honesty it is a good thing Jericho never won it.

I am disappointed but glad at the same time.

Destor
01-31-2012, 06:12 PM
facts are hanso and the like are pissed they got worked and cant let it go.

#BROKEN Hasney
01-31-2012, 06:23 PM
Not really. It was a dull PPV and needed something to lift it and that would have done it. They needed that creative spark that they found from MITB on to HIAC. Some decent side-stories in the Rumble match would have done it and Jericho could have easily been the catalyst for it with the whole end of the world thing.

Didn't have to be that though. Cena could have embraced the hate and just ran down during the match and cleared some of the field as an example.

I think it's the issue with the Elimination Chamber PPV being where it is. They don't want to build to anything serious as 12 top-level guys are going to be involved in the title matches anyway (and that's not a dig at the "Elimination PPV" as Mr. Excitement put it, probably enjoyed it more than the Rumble since it's inception).

RVDmark
01-31-2012, 06:32 PM
To me, you don't just promise a paying customer something and then not deliver.

:y:

Damndirty
01-31-2012, 06:40 PM
I prefer Sheamus and Daniels over one more Daniels vs. Show, or Show vs. Mark Henry, or Henry vs. Bryan. Hopefully, the triple threat cage match brought closure to that... but it is Smackdown, where the same match will happen again and again for the next two or three weeks. Since when did booking five more rematches back to back = trying to keep people interested? It's almost as bad as contract signings!