Cell Match at Mania

[Swiss Ultimate]

So as Mania approaches I've been thinking a little about Triple H facing Undertaker for the 3rd time in what could possibly be the last match for both men.

I'm going to speculate that HBK and Mick Foley are going to play into this somehow what with HBK defeating Taker in the first Hell in a Cell and Foley facing him in the most famous Cell match to date.

Any ideas on how the WWE will incorporate the two?

[Swish]

WHAT?

[Swiss Ultimate]

WHAT?

So as Mania approaches I've been thinking a little about Triple H facing Undertaker for the 3rd time in what could possibly be the last match for both men.

I'm going to speculate that HBK and Mick Foley are going to play into this somehow what with HBK defeating Taker in the first Hell in a Cell and Foley facing him in the most famous Cell match to date.

Any ideas on how the WWE will incorporate the two?

Thought I was pretty clear.

[Rammsteinmad]

I don't think either will be in the match. We all speculated a match with HBK as the referee (and this could still happen), but on top of Cena/Rock and Jericho/Punk, a Hell in a Cell match... with HBK as a referee? With the possibiility of a Money in the Bank match too... the crowd are gonna die halfway through this PPV.

[Jordan]

I am still holding out that HBK gets himself involved in the match somehow, hopefully as a ref and it's somehow revealed all the drama between HHH and HBK on Raw was just mind games to fuck with Taker, and get both HBK and HHH in the Cell to end The Undertaker.

Of course though, Taker wins and the sux it boyz RIP

[Jordan]

And leave Nash at home please.

[Mister Sinister]

And leave Nash at The Commentary Table..

[CSL]

I could see an HBK run-in for a huge nearfall, not so much Foley.

Also feels like this would be a pretty perfect "swansong" for Taker.

[Nicky Fives]

I'd only be interested in a surprise HBK run-in..... don't book him in HHH's corner.....

[Swiss Ultimate]

I don't think either will be in the match. We all speculated a match with HBK as the referee (and this could still happen), but on top of Cena/Rock and Jericho/Punk, a Hell in a Cell match... with HBK as a referee? With the possibiility of a Money in the Bank match too... the crowd are gonna die halfway through this PPV.

I was thinking more of promos with both men.

[Mr. JL]

I could see an HBK run-in for a huge nearfall.



I imagine if this happens it would be a pretty BIG moment.

[itsmeJD]

I could see an HBK run-in for a huge nearfall, not so much Foley.

Also feels like this would be a pretty perfect "swansong" for Taker.

I'd like to see HBK run in and Sweet Chin Music the fuck out of both of em for talking shit about him not getting the job done over the last 2 years of his career....crotch chop em both, leading to a 3 way dance at next years Wrestlemania.

[Nicky Fives]

I'd like to see HBK run in and Sweet Chin Music the fuck out of both of em for talking shit about him not getting the job done over the last 2 years of his career....crotch chop em both, leading to a 3 way dance at next years Wrestlemania.

I'd be a fan of that..... only Taker/HHH this year finished in a no contest, and HHH/Taker took turns calling out HBK and he doesn't show....they could even film a spot on HHH visiting HBK at his ranch, or wherever he hunts, subtly plugging his new show or whatever....

[Team Sheep]

All of Triple H and Undertaker's HIAC opponents from over the years (that are still alive) should show up on some Raw's in the run up to Mania. That would be epic. Except for Brock, they wouldn't waste his return on something like that.

[Theo Dious]

I'd like to submit that the Hell in a Cell match also be retired. It will never mean anything after this, especially with the lackluster HIAC matches that have gone on at its titular PPV.

[itsmeJD]

All of Triple H and Undertaker's HIAC opponents from over the years (that are still alive) should show up on some Raw's in the run up to Mania. That would be epic. Except for Brock, they wouldn't waste his return on something like that.

As far as Brock, his return comes after Taker gets his win....hit the ring after the match, and fucking decimate Taker....don't let him celebrate, nothing....just come in from the crowd and lay waste. This way, Taker gets his time off...Brock returns in a big way, and we begin a slow build to Taker's next opponent.

[Shisen Kopf]

They should bring in akeem to get revenge for rasslemania 15 when his tag team partner from the 80s got hanged. Unless he's dead then carry on.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I'd like to submit that the Hell in a Cell match also be retired. It will never mean anything after this, especially with the lackluster HIAC matches that have gone on at its titular PPV.
This is spot on.

I have a feeling this match is going to be bloody.

[Dukelorange]

I agree with this as well... there really isnt any new spots you can do... I guess they have to go back to using a regular match to tell a story.

[DLVH84]

increase the stakes even further...career vs. career as well.

[mike adamle]

Kinda wish this was gonna be the main event now. This feels a lot more important than Cena-Rock to me, although I guess it isn't

[Emperor Smeat]

I'd rather not see anyone else get involved although have a strong feeling the match is going to end in a draw of some sort. If anyone gets involved it could take away some of the luster for the potential final match in the streak's history.

Can't see them having the cell hanging off a canopy for most of the night considering the wind and/or rain could be an issue. Last time Mania was held in Miami, it slightly rained early into the MitB match.

[dablackguy]

I'd like to submit that the Hell in a Cell match also be retired. It will never mean anything after this, especially with the lackluster HIAC matches that have gone on at its titular PPV.

I go the other way on this. If this is the last match of one or both of their careers - why not have a winner but both men get carried out and put the cell match over as having "ended the careers of both HHH and the legendary Undertaker"

Both men have a big sendoff and the cell gets put over as this career ending structure again. Win/win?

[Mr. Pierre]

This match is going to steal the show, no doubt in my mind. It's going to be an extremely hard act to follow, if it doesn't close. Win or lose, I think this is Taker's last match. :(

[James Steele]

I can't wait because the sight of the massive hell in a cell in an open air stadium will be really cool looking. I'm so AMPED for WrestleMania XXVIII.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I wonder if they will use the super-big Cell they have for the last few PPVs. I hope they bring back the one for easier going on the top of the cell. Though outside that will be even more dangerous.

[Droford]

increase the stakes even further...career vs. career as well.
Taker gets to be a suit if he wins? Could you imagine him doing what HHH has been doing for the past 6 months?

[Aaronp43]

19-1 taker goes down in the cell but what good is the cell with no blood

[Swiss Ultimate]

There may be blood...it's Triple H and Taker after all.

[#1-norm-fan]

I thought about that. With Vince getting more lenient with the cursing and the "taboo words" I can see him letting some blood be shed in this one. Considering how long it's been since it's been allowed, it would be just add meaning to it.

[JKWJRMON]

Unfortunately I think the streak ends at 19. HHH is gonna thrown Taker off the cage, and through the cage and win.

[JKWJRMON]

Kinda wish this was gonna be the main event now. This feels a lot more important than Cena-Rock to me, although I guess it isn't

Good Point!!

[Swiss Ultimate]

This could easily be both men's last match. Don't know if they'll end the streak.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Unfortunately I think the streak ends at 19. HHH is gonna thrown Taker off the cage, and through the cage and win.

I highly doubt anybody will be going off or through the top of the cell.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Yeah, this is going to be more of a brutal psychological match as was the last one.

I am really looking forward to this one, kids.

[#1-norm-fan]

I can't see any way Triple H ends the streak. It serves no purpose. I know the history of "Triple H hogging the spotlight" but in the position he's in right now, there's just no way he uses the one chance to end the most illustrious streak in wrestling history to... put himself over in what could be his last match? Come on. No reason for it to happen whatsoever.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If this is The Undertaker's last match, I think it is perfect for him to lose to Triple H in it. The Undertaker's own pride led him to his own destruction. In the end, he was his own worst enemy. It won't be Triple H's last match, so it's not like it's completely wasted on the guy. The man who will be with the company forever gets another Hall of Fame achievement to add to his resume. Not really bad in a situation where it's the only way to do it.

But Shawn Michaels just had an interesting remark during a phone interview with WWE.com. When asked if Triple H beating The Undertaker would mean that he is better than Shawn, HBK apparently grew agitated and told the interviewer that he'll always be the greatest because of what he did and no one can deem him otherwise. I'm not going to lie: Shawn Michaels coming in and helping The Undertaker beat Triple H would be massively compelling for me. Triple H could want to get HBK in the ring, and HBK could be all "Nah, I'm retired, man." Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H at SummerSlam ten years after HBK's original return would be epic. Not even in a wrestling match -- call it a Street Fight, like their SummerSlam 2002 bout was.

Or even doing both: Triple H ends the streak, but he does it with HBK's help. Triple H is all "What the fuck?" and Shawn is now "You did it; but you did it because of me." Cue same storyline.

[James Steele]

If this is The Undertaker's last match, I think it is perfect for him to lose to Triple H in it. The Undertaker's own pride led him to his own destruction. In the end, he was his own worst enemy. It won't be Triple H's last match, so it's not like it's completely wasted on the guy. The man who will be with the company forever gets another Hall of Fame achievement to add to his resume. Not really bad in a situation where it's the only way to do it.

But Shawn Michaels just had an interesting remark during a phone interview with WWE.com. When asked if Triple H beating The Undertaker would mean that he is better than Shawn, HBK apparently grew agitated and told the interviewer that he'll always be the greatest because of what he did and no one can deem him otherwise. I'm not going to lie: Shawn Michaels coming in and helping The Undertaker beat Triple H would be massively compelling for me. Triple H could want to get HBK in the ring, and HBK could be all "Nah, I'm retired, man." Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H at SummerSlam ten years after HBK's original return would be epic. Not even in a wrestling match -- call it a Street Fight, like their SummerSlam 2002 bout was.

Or even doing both: Triple H ends the streak, but he does it with HBK's help. Triple H is all "What the fuck?" and Shawn is now "You did it; but you did it because of me." Cue same storyline.

I'd cum.

[#1-norm-fan]

If this is The Undertaker's last match, I think it is perfect for him to lose to Triple H in it. The Undertaker's own pride led him to his own destruction. In the end, he was his own worst enemy. It won't be Triple H's last match, so it's not like it's completely wasted on the guy. The man who will be with the company forever gets another Hall of Fame achievement to add to his resume. Not really bad in a situation where it's the only way to do it.


Do you really think being able to hype Triple H as the guy who ended Undertaker's streak when both men were at the end of their careers is worth ending the legacy of Taker's streak. It would mean nothing. The company being able to market "20-0" forever is a MUCH bigger deal.

And even then, if they waste the streak for another "hall of fame achievement" (as if he needs it) there can be no more talk of the possibility of another Taker match within the next 2 or 3 years to put over someone who is current. The streak is officially no longer marketable in any way. But the good news is... Triple H gets to use it to put himself over in the company that he will own soon...? I don't think Trips' ego is that big and I don't see why anyone else in the company would see it as a remotely decent idea.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I could see Triple H staying in for another 10-15 years honestly.

[#1-norm-fan]

He'll probably be there longer than that... lol

Not as a wrestler though.

[James Steele]

He'll probably be there longer than that... lol

Not as a wrestler though.

Said that about Hogan in 1992...

[Mooияakeя™]

WHAT?

Did you know that backwards, that spells...
?TAHW

[Mr. Nerfect]

Do you really think being able to hype Triple H as the guy who ended Undertaker's streak when both men were at the end of their careers is worth ending the legacy of Taker's streak. It would mean nothing. The company being able to market "20-0" forever is a MUCH bigger deal.

And even then, if they waste the streak for another "hall of fame achievement" (as if he needs it) there can be no more talk of the possibility of another Taker match within the next 2 or 3 years to put over someone who is current. The streak is officially no longer marketable in any way. But the good news is... Triple H gets to use it to put himself over in the company that he will own soon...? I don't think Trips' ego is that big and I don't see why anyone else in the company would see it as a remotely decent idea.

I ask this question:

What money can be made from keeping the streak intact?

Do I think Triple H is the absolute best choice to end it? No. In my opinion, regardless of what people think of the man, John Cena is the best choice to do it at WrestleMania NYNJ next year. Maybe Randy Orton could get something out of it, as well, especially if he's signed for as long as reports say. Sheamus is another option. But I see why Triple H is a reasonable choice:


He's going to be in the WWE forever
It fits the current story arc that has been going since 2008
It means that when Triple H wrestles that one match here or there, it means so much (especially if it's Hell in a Cell)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Imagine this SummerSlam card:

WWE Championship/World Heavyweight Championship - Unification Match
John Cena (WWE Champion) vs. Randy Orton (World Heavyweight Champion)

The Rock vs. CM Punk

Street Fight
Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H

Mask vs. Mask Match
Rey Mysterio vs. Sin Cara

Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Featuring the top talent not featured in other matches

Talk about a blockbuster PPV. In my dream world, after John Cena has unified the WWE and World Heavyweight Championships, Brock Lesnar would appear on the scene and level Cena with an F-5.

[Swiss Ultimate]

The only problem I have with any of this speculation, is that by looking at the story itself between Taker and Triple H it makes a lot of sense for him to win.

Undertaker wants to lose. Why else is he picking a fight with the man who nearly beat him?

[#1-norm-fan]

Said that about Hogan in 1992...

Hogan didn't have ownership of the biggest wrestling company in the world waiting for him though.

[#1-norm-fan]

I ask this question:

What money can be made from keeping the streak intact?

Do I think Triple H is the absolute best choice to end it? No. In my opinion, regardless of what people think of the man, John Cena is the best choice to do it at WrestleMania NYNJ next year. Maybe Randy Orton could get something out of it, as well, especially if he's signed for as long as reports say. Sheamus is another option. But I see why Triple H is a reasonable choice:


He's going to be in the WWE forever
It fits the current story arc that has been going since 2008
It means that when Triple H wrestles that one match here or there, it means so much (especially if it's Hell in a Cell)


That doesn't speak to the question of "Wouldn't Triple H want to at least have the option open of putting someone like Cena or Punk over by ending Taker's streak since they are people who will be the face of what will soon be his company?"

Money can be made from keeping the streak in tact via 20-0 merch, DVDs, the fact that there can be speculation and the option of "Will Taker come back for one more WrestleMania match?" That talk ends completely if the streak ends. And all to give a rub to a guy who will barely be wrestling and will one day own a company full of active wrestlers that could have gotten the rub of a lifetime but didn't because the guy who now spends his time signing paychecks got it? It giving a little more credibility to Trips' future matches (However many more there might be) is just not remotely worth it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hogan didn't have ownership of the biggest wrestling company in the world waiting for him though.

If anything, this is more of a reason that Triple H is a good choice. In ten years, Triple H is still going to be appearing in the WWE trying to generate money for the company where he can.

That doesn't speak to the question of "Wouldn't Triple H want to at least have the option open of putting someone like Cena or Punk over by ending Taker's streak since they are people who will be the face of what will soon be his company?"

Money can be made from keeping the streak in tact via 20-0 merch, DVDs, the fact that there can be speculation and the option of "Will Taker come back for one more WrestleMania match?" That talk ends completely if the streak ends. And all to give a rub to a guy who will barely be wrestling and will one day own a company full of active wrestlers that could have gotten the rub of a lifetime but didn't because the guy who now spends his time signing paychecks got it? It giving a little more credibility to Trips' future matches (However many more there might be) is just not remotely worth it.

Of course Triple H would love for a Punk or a Cena to do it. But if this is The Undertaker's last match that's not really feasible, is it?

Money will be made from Undertaker DVDs anyway. With the streak ending it also gives closure to the DVD set. 20 WrestleMania matches featuring The Undertaker -- some classic, some not so classic -- on one DVD. Yeah, that'll sell.

Also, The Undertaker doesn't have to retire even if he loses the streak. 19-1 is still a damn fucking good record, isn't it? Taker could come back and say that he wants that 20th Mania win, and his loss can actually add drama to that.

[#1-norm-fan]

It wouldn't really. Taker coming back to wrestle at WM with a 19-1 record isn't really all that dramatic.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yes, it is. Imagine if he returned and Chris Jericho gave him shit. Perfect.

[KaraBoo]

I always wanted to see a Cell match at Wrestlemania.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope they scrap the Hell in a Cell PPV concept.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yes, it is. Imagine if he returned and Chris Jericho gave him shit. Perfect.

Meh. Jericho vs Taker might be cool since it hasn't been done really and they could probably put on a great match.

It would just be brought down though after the constant drama of "Is the streak going to end?" at WrestleMania. The bar for Taker matches has been set ridiculously high by it. 19-1 is... whatever.

[Mr. C]

Kinda wish this was gonna be the main event now. This feels a lot more important than Cena-Rock to me, although I guess it isn't.

I hate the fact that Cena-Rock is being billed as the biggest match ever. I think Hell In A Cell, Shawn Michaels as guest referee, and The Undertaker’s streak is the recipe for the biggest match.

[#1-norm-fan]

Taker-HHH is definitely not the top draw on the card over Cena-Rock. It has to have second billing. Not exactly a bad problem to have though. Having two matches that are beyond huge and "only at WrestleMania" type main events... and you haven't even delved into the title matches yet. I love it.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I have a feeling that HHH VS. Taker will be a lot better than Rock VS. Cena unless they put on a fucking mat classic.

[#1-norm-fan]

I can't imagine Rock-Cena possibly being a better match out of context. In the moment there, it's definitely possible that the atmosphere pulls it above HHH-Taker.

[Swiss Ultimate]

By the way, how are the Hendersons treating you?

[#1-norm-fan]

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[Nicky Fives]

I always wanted to see a Cell match at Wrestlemania.

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*facepalm

[Swiss Ultimate]

Underrated match.

[CSL]

Rock-Cena should be fine but I'm kind of expecting big things from Taker/HHH and rightly so, they'll "bring it" like motherfuckers

[Mr. C]

I just read that The Undertaker is trying to get JR to announce for WrestleMania.

[XL]

I thought that Teddy Long might have brought him back to Raw last week as a "crowd pleasing" move/to undo his firing at the hands of Big Johnny.

[Blakeamus]

Undertaker wants to lose. Why else is he picking a fight with the man who nearly beat him?

I don't see it that way with Taker. I find that he wanted the match because of how Triple H bragged that Taker didn't walk out on his own. Taker wants to keep the streak alive due to the fact with all of the accolades that this man had in his career, the streak is his golden goose. He wants vengeance against the man who put his body to the limit and correct the wrong that happened the previous year. Taker wants to be the man standing and be the one WALKING out WM with the win.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I could see that.

[Mr. C]

It appears that they’re trying to tease The Undertaker being screwed. Can anyone else see anything other Shawn Michaels screwing over Triple-H?

[Blakeamus]

I can see two hit or miss scenerios.

1. Towards the end, Triple H tries to get HBK to help him, or Triple H could have done something in a matter of unfairness and HBK refuses. Which leads to Triple H provoking HBK with the result of a Superkick and Taker catching him into a TOMBSTONE for the win...

2. HHH and HBK do work togather but can't seem to get the job done, and somehow Taker gets the upper hand which would lead HBK no other choice but to make the pinfall...

For some odd reason, I get the feeling that this night WILL plant a seed for a Triple H v.s. HBK match for NEXT WM...I wouldn't mind it but I still want HBK's "retirement" to stay intact.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Another good set-up would be for Triple H to have a falling out with HBK before the match and then manage to defeat Taker ending with Triple H yelling at HBK to"Make the damn count!"

"I finished the job you couldn't." leads to the next Wrestlemania match.