Are 14 year old boys really this stupid?

[Nicky Fives]

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2012/03/12/19490801.html



TORONTO - It's 7:15 p.m., Friday night. The weather has turned on a razor's edge, it’s getting dark and the wind whips us around as we push into the crowds and the anticipation builds.

My son Liam and I are standing in the parking lot of Toronto's Ricoh Coliseum. Liam is 14 and is completely into "The Road to Wrestlemania." There is a long black limo parked outside. Liam wants to know which wrestler is inside as we walk past. The night feels full of possibilities.

On the card tonight is John Cena. Liam is on the fence. Should he support him or go with the crowd? He's never been to a live event and he is brimming with questions. Will John Laurinaitis be there? Will he fight Teddy Long? Will Jerry "The King" Lawler be at ringside? Will he shake his hand? All these questions as we make our way through the lobby.

A friend couldn’t make the show at the last minute so we happily obliged. We find our seats. The arena looks tiny to me. Liam only has eyes for the ring. He is busy scanning the entrance looking for any semblance of the setup he sees on Monday nights. Where are the announcers? Where are the fireworks? I explain that this is a house show; they scale it down.

They announce Santino vs Jack Swagger. Liam is on his feet cheering Santino and booing Swagger. At his side are a few kids screaming at the top of their lungs. He is fully under the wrestling spell. The match ends and I make my way to the merchandise stands. He really wants a Little Jimmy t-shirt. I stand in line with aggressive Moms and Dads pushing forward to get the "right" shirt.

I hear all the banter going back and forth in line. Two kids are completely amped. One fully believes Edge and Christian are here and will make a run on because it’s Toronto -- right? The other kid nods. The rumours spread fast. When R-Truth was a bad guy, Liam didn't like him, but he loves the craziness of Little Jimmy.

Some friends have joined us in the next seats, Ashleigh and Andy. Liam bombards her with wrestling facts and Andy and I trade some banter. His dad was a wrestler and I got hooked as a boy watching Maple Leaf Wrestling. The next few matches are a blur. R-Truth and the Miz battle it out. Jericho is the consummate professional as he riles the crowd up. Liam is already hoarse, and having a riot. Things are moving so fast around us that by the time we get some popcorn and Twizzlers, the tag title matches have already come and gone. The crowd is polite for John Cena and Kane.

Liam is waiting for pyros that don’t come. Dolph Ziggler’s music hits. The mood immediately changes. The main event is here. The crowd absolutely erupts for CM Punk.
The match is a battle for supremacy as it’s a best-of-three falls match. Punk wins the first one. Then Dolph wins one. The play by play is lost on me as Chris Jericho runs in. Liam is grabbing my arm. There he is!! There is genuine concern on Liam’s face. It’s a great moment. Then CM prevails and it is over.

Liam immediately wants to do it again. As we grab our coats and merchandise he is talking non-stop about how cool it was. He begins to describe the matches by what he remembers. His favourite moment was Santino beating Jack Swagger with the Cobra. He was sad that Eve beat Kelly Kelly. Then the sentences sped up: Chris Jericho beat Kofi Kingston, R-Truth beat the Miz, John Cena prevailed over Kane and did you see how big Mason Ryan was in the tag match with Alex Riley when Primo and Epico fought? And how mean Chris Jericho was when he interfered in CM Punk’s Match?

Mentally I calculate the matches I missed as I was in line getting t-shirts, food, etc. We pass by the back entrance where the wrestlers are getting into their respective rides. It’s bitterly cold outside now and the wind is merciless. There are no limos, exotic cars or pyros, no witty announcers, sneaky camera angles or tricky general managers. Liam doesn’t care. You can see it in his eyes, the adrenaline is still there, and he can’t wait for Wrestlemania. He’s hooked.

[Kane Knight]

They're 14 year old boys. I think you answered your own question.

[Cool King]

I fail to see what makes this 14 year old boy, stupid. :-\

What I read, was a dad telling us all about how his son was pissing himself with excitment due to it being his very first live event and having an absolute whale of a time.

It's a good story.

[Skippord]

it's a very nice story, and pretty well written

[KIRA]

Are 14 year old boys really this stupid?


Consider the fact that somewhere on this site there's a person named Indifferent Clox who is much older than a 14 yr old excited boy.

The kid in the story is happy there's nothing wrong with that.

[Jordan]

Yeah that was a good story why are you being a douche?

[Pity Party Arnie]

That was a great read.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Fucking stupid 14 year olds having a good time at an event they enjoy. Cunts.

[Kane Knight]

Consider the fact that somewhere on this site there's a person named Indifferent Clox who is much older than a 14 yr old excited boy.

And he's not even the worst.

The OP is stupid for posting this thread. Hand's down.

Fixed.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

LOL he thought they'd have pyro at a house show. What a stupid twat.

[Dukelorange]

I enjoy house shows... I wish I had the chance to meet the wrestlers... Havent met one since I met Sting back in 87...

[JimmyMess]

Yeah what was the big deal? I thought it was a nice story.

HAVEAHEARTBRO!

[Xero]

Oh no, a wrestling fan. How terrible...?

[FourFifty]

I don't see the point of this thread.... My first house show was when I was 17 (I think). I was rather underwhelmed at the arena, but I still had a blast watching the show. It was the kids first experience with a house show, and he enjoyed it.

[Kane Knight]

Yeah what was the big deal? I thought it was a nice story.

DOUCHETAGHAVEAHEARTBRO!

[Ermaximus]

Mr. Fives, please explain your stance on why you think 14 year olds are stupid so we can try and see what exactly you're talking about.

[Kane Knight]

I don't see the point of this thread....

Because you are a 14 year old boy......

[Ermaximus]

Stop being a bitch Kane Knight. That's someone else's job.

[Kane Knight]

Stop being a bitch Kane Knight. That's someone else's job.

True, but Sascha and Fangerl don't seem to post much in here.

[Blue Demon]

True, but Sascha and Fangerl don't seem to post much in here.

We all know that you're the only bitch on these Forums. Stop trying to pass it off on others.

[Nicky Fives]

All I was saying was that 14 seems a bit old to get "mega-excited" about a live event.....especially buying in to E&C being there.....He'll probably turn into The Next Generation Sign Guy...... only Canadian.....

[Kane Knight]

We all know that I'm the only bitch on these Forums. Stop trying to steal my thunder.

Whatever you say, bitchy, :p

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Nah that's probably about right for a 14 year old really.

[Kane Knight]

All I was saying was that 14 seems a bit old to get "mega-excited" about a live event.....especially buying in to E&C being there.....He'll probably turn into The Next Generation Sign Guy...... only Canadian.....

Dude, we had 20 and 30 somethings on this site pissed off during the "Save Us" campaign because they thought we were promised Chris Jericho every Monday night and at PPVs.

How can this site realistically condemn a 14 year old for jizzing his pants over rumours, when that's what 80% of this site does without the excuse of having just had their balls drop?

[Captain of Fun]

All I was saying was that 14 seems a bit old to get "mega-excited" about a live event.....especially buying in to E&C being there.....He'll probably turn into The Next Generation Sign Guy...... only Canadian.....


Not really, considering it's the first live event he's ever been to.

Not everyone is a smarkish internet snob, who goes to live events just to mock other fans and watch a paul london vs jimmy yang match.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Paul London and Jimmy Yang had a great series of matches back in the day.

[Nicky Fives]

I'm just saying that at 14 (Grade 8-9), I knew the difference between a house show and a Raw/Smackdown, without being an Internet smark..... maybe I'm just an exception.....

[Rollermacka]

This thread disappoints me, Mr. Fives. I was hoping it was going to feature a bunch of videos like this
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[Gertner]

He should have booed the faces and cheered the heels.

[Lock Jaw]

I like the "The crowd is polite for John Cena and Kane" line.

[MIZantine Empire]

I enjoy house shows... I wish I had the chance to meet the wrestlers... Havent met one since I met Sting back in 87...
up until this last smackdown i went to a couple months ago, the only wrestlers i had met were andre the giant (literally ran into him in an airport) and A-train (at a del taco in Tucson, lol) but i got handshakes from lilian and randy orton this time, and had a brief chat with mike chioda and the other refs who were standing by me before the show ended. im upset that i was in the pisser when micheal cole, booker t, and josh matthews walked right by our section to leave after smackdown went off air.

[James Steele]

Grow a fucking heart, Nicky Fives.

[Shadrick]

I'm just saying that at 14 (Grade 8-9), I knew the difference between a house show and a Raw/Smackdown, without being an Internet smark..... maybe I'm just an exception.....

Or, you know, you're your own person. Let the kid enjoy it. Cmon Fives.

[Xero]

Paul London and Jimmy Yang had a great series of matches back in the day.

I miss Velocity.

[KaosDarksol]

Why wouldn't a 14 year old mark get excited for wrestling especially in canada

[Emperor Smeat]

Not seeing how that makes the kid dumb since outside of the reasoning for an Edge/Christian appearance, he was very entertained by the show.

[Lock Jaw]

Also, the kid who is the main focus of this is not the one who believed E&C would be there. Those were some other kids in line in front of his dad for merch.

And that's par for the course. I remember the last time I went to a WWE show, which is waay back now, people in front of me (adults) were speculating and "so certain" that Hulk Hogan would be there.

[Nicky Fives]

Fine..... I guess I am crazy...... my apologies to you all.....

[Lock Jaw]

Thank you. I feel much better now.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

closure

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I think we've all learned a lot from this thread.

[Xero]

Nicky Fives doesn't like marks.

[itsmeJD]

Nicky Fives also hates live events, and the young teens who enjoy them.

[Nicky Fives]

correction..... I like live events, just think 14 is too old to be "enthralled" by them.....and I think I just stole Roxer's gimmick.....

[CSL]

are you the dick at shows that tries to ruin it for the kids because you're so "clued in"? because they are the absolute worst fucking kind of wrestling fan on the face of the Earth

[Nicky Fives]

are you the dick at shows that tries to ruin it for the kids because you're so "clued in"? because they are the absolute worst fucking kind of wrestling fan on the face of the Earth

I have been to three house shows in my life......When I was 8, 10 and this past October to a TNA show..... so no..... I'm not "that guy".....I also went to the latest house show alone, so that should give you an indication about how social I am in public..... ;)

[Lock Jaw]

First time I went to a house show (the main event was Shawn vs Bret vs Sid for the title, so quite some time ago) I was totally enthralled by it.

I remember legitimately thinking the title was gonna change hands and marveled at how the champ managed to escape with the belt.

[CSL]

kids are the best at wrestling shows, especially once they "get into it". Can't imagine how good it must be for the guys working for Vince

[Lock Jaw]

Actually, looking at old results to try to find that show... it looks like it may have actually been an episode of Monday Night Raw, and the Sid/Bret/HBM match was a dark match main event.

This is a pretty mind blowing revelation.

The only thing I remember about it is that one dark match main event.

[CSL]

pretty sure that series of triple threats with those guys and Taker in 1997 were the first WWE ever did. YOU WERE A PART OF HISTORY LOCK JAW

[Lock Jaw]

I did run Monday Night Raw for awhile, so yeah.

[Cool King]

are you the dick at shows that tries to ruin it for the kids because you're so "clued in"? because they are the absolute worst fucking kind of wrestling fan on the face of the Earth

I met one of those guys a local indy show in 2010.

Him and his friend both "befriended me" for the night and we all sat together at the event and all he did was comment on how shit some of the guys were doing moves and telling me and some kids in front of us when spots were about to happen because he "knew when wrestlers were calling spots" and so on.

He also booed all the faces and cheered the heels. He got into a verbal confrontation with one of the wrestlers after his match. It was Matt Vaughn. Vaughn then managed to get the entire crowd against the guy, which was pretty embarrassing as I was sitting right next to him.

Here's he is pointing him out to the crowd.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7899/47220428281377366213127.jpg

They were both nice guys though. It's just when watching a match together, one of them was just really annoying.

[CSL]

lol I have jobbed to Matt Vaughn via FU/Attitude Adjustment :(

[CSL]

but yeah, they're fucking idiots/pathetic. The worst kind of fan, be it small shows or WWE/TNA shows

[Droford]

When I was 14, I got to go to WCW Nitro here. Arn Anderson vs Hogan, Alex Wright vs Loch Ness, Belfast Bruiser vs Brad Armstrong, Ric Flair vs Savage for the WCW title.

Flair Savage was ok, the rest was garbage. I dont think I was as excited at the 14 year old boy in the initial post, although I was 7 when I went to my first wrestling show (an NWA show) which was:

<small>Rick Steiner fought Kendall Windham to a draw
Bobby Fulton & Tommy Rogers defeated Jim Cornette, NWA US Tag Team Champions Bobby Eaton & Stan Lane in a handicap match
Steve Williams & Nikita Koloff defeated NWA Tag Team Champions Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard via disqualification
NWA World Champion Ric Flair & NWA US Champion Barry Windham fought Lex Luger & Sting to a no contest
The Road Warriors defeated Ivan Koloff & the Russian Assassin in a scaffold match


</small>

[BigDaddyCool]

nicky 5s is really that stupid.

[GD]

It's actually an adorable story. I am glad that he got to see his favorite wrestlers.

[addy2hotty]

If all 14 year old boys were like the one in the report, there'd be no wars.

[Kane Knight]

Not really, considering it's the first live event he's ever been to.

Not everyone is a smarkish internet snob, who goes to live events just to mock other fans and watch a paul london vs jimmy yang match.

I bet most of us weren't jaded dickwads once, either. Except Nicky, he's too clued in.

I'm just saying that at 14 (Grade 8-9), I knew the difference between a house show and a Raw/Smackdown, without being an Internet smark..... maybe I'm just an exception.....

You seem pretty clueless on most other things. Probably shouldn't be so proud that you are the "exception" here, since you seem to also be the "exception" in the notion of a superior education system in Canada.

He should have booed the faces and cheered the heels.

That would have been SMART!

closure

RING THE DAMN BELL!

[Gertner]

I met one of those guys a local indy show in 2010.

Him and his friend both "befriended me" for the night and we all sat together at the event and all he did was comment on how shit some of the guys were doing moves and telling me and some kids in front of us when spots were about to happen because he "knew when wrestlers were calling spots" and so on.

He also booed all the faces and cheered the heels. He got into a verbal confrontation with one of the wrestlers after his match. It was Matt Vaughn. Vaughn then managed to get the entire crowd against the guy, which was pretty embarrassing as I was sitting right next to him.

Here's he is pointing him out to the crowd.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7899/47220428281377366213127.jpg

They were both nice guys though. It's just when watching a match together, one of them was just really annoying.

That's pretty much every indy wrestling fan. They spend their entire week research "gold" material to impress the other fatass virgin smarks. Usually while wearing Hayabusa masks and an American Dragon T-Shirt that's 2 sizes too small.

[irishmaster]

I know you, your the guy that tells kids that Santa Claus dosent exist. Let the wee lad enjoy himself for feck sake. He may become a cynic and stop watching soon but for now let it go!

[Fox]

what a mark

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He should have booed the faces and cheered the heels.

Soon Gertner. He will let the hate flow through him.