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D Mac
03-15-2012, 04:39 AM
Sheamus sure pulled it off so far so if you were to turn another heel which one would be just as over right now? Ziggler or maybe The Miz? And how would you go about doing it.

James Steele
03-15-2012, 05:06 AM
Dolph Ziggler

He'll still embrace being a "show-off" but his energy and everything in the ring lends itself to being a babyface. I think it will happen when he finally ditches Vickie and decides to go on a quest to become World Champion on his own. He'll go through hell and "earn respect" or whatever and he gets his shot against a mega-heel who will help him make the solid transition to babyface.

Shadrick
03-15-2012, 05:31 AM
Came in here to say Ziggler.

MoFo
03-15-2012, 05:40 AM
Jericho, obvs.

Jura
03-15-2012, 05:58 AM
Dolphans

Dukelorange
03-15-2012, 06:52 AM
Add Miz as a distant second

Nicky Fives
03-15-2012, 07:03 AM
I don't see Miz ever being a face.....he's too small and not good enough in the ring.....Ziggler for sure.....he could do anything.....

Damian Rey
03-15-2012, 09:37 AM
I don't see Miz ever being a face.....he's too small and not good enough in the ring.....Ziggler for sure.....he could do anything.....

The beauty in being a face is you can hide shortcomings in the ring since the heel typically controls the match. Look at how good Orton has been since turning.

I would go with Miz, Ziggler and Christian.

Corporate CockSnogger
03-15-2012, 09:40 AM
I don't see Miz ever being a face.....he's too small and not good enough in the ring.....Ziggler for sure.....he could do anything.....

Too small? Who are the two current heavyweight champions again? And doing a pretty good job of it too.

And he's definitely good enough in the ring, maybe not on the level of the likes of Jericho, Punk, HBK etc but he's definitely good enough.

Iop
03-15-2012, 10:26 AM
Alberto Del Rio.

Gertner
03-15-2012, 10:58 AM
Definitley Tyler Reks

XCaliber
03-15-2012, 11:32 AM
The Miz for sure even though for the longest time I couldn't see him as one but I think now he could pull it off and Ziggler should remain a heel unless they revamped him.

St. Jimmy
03-15-2012, 11:48 AM
Came in here to say Ziggler.

VSG
03-15-2012, 12:08 PM
Mark Henry

MIZantine Empire
03-15-2012, 12:16 PM
Alberto Del Rio.
i love this idea..i almost got goosebumps when WWE was in mexico, and he came out to a HUGE pop, and played it like a face. i get a kick out of when heels get huge pops, like cody rhodes at MSG, Miz during money in the bank (and sheamus for that matter, he was still heel at that ppv and got a massive pop)

DLVH84
03-15-2012, 12:30 PM
Dolph, hands down.

Nicky Fives
03-15-2012, 12:46 PM
Too small? Who are the two current heavyweight champions again? And doing a pretty good job of it too.

And he's definitely good enough in the ring, maybe not on the level of the likes of Jericho, Punk, HBK etc but he's definitely good enough.

As a fan, I buy into Punk & Bryan being able to beat me because of their movesets and superior in-ring techniques..... Miz's offense looks weak and he isn't big enough to pull off the "I'm a tough guy" gimmick......

All in all, I believe Punk & Bryan can kick my ass rather quickly, but I could last a while with Miz.....

Ermaximus
03-15-2012, 12:57 PM
Definitley Tyler Reks

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Mark Henry

Kool Aid Returns?

Rammsteinmad
03-15-2012, 02:17 PM
Gonna go out on a limb here and say Drew McIntyre.

Iop
03-15-2012, 02:52 PM
Gonna go out on a limb here and say Drew McIntyre.

Drew McIntyre = Pro Surfer! Now that would put asses in seats, !

whiteyford
03-15-2012, 03:07 PM
Gonna go out on a limb here and say Drew McIntyre.

Future hall of famer:D

In Exile
03-15-2012, 03:39 PM
Miz would have been awesome had they capitalized on it within 6 or 8 months of his win over Cena at WM. Very similar to The Rock after his first WrestleMania against Austin, only Miz actually came out his match with the win and so arguably more momentum for a face turn in the near future.

Now? I really don't see anyone I'd want turned face right now. I don't think it's time for Dolph yet.

Droford
03-15-2012, 03:49 PM
All Ziggler would need to do is come out wearing his #heel shirt and then pull it off to reveal a #Face shirt

Emperor Smeat
03-15-2012, 03:53 PM
Ziggler.

Miz probably could use the switch the most considering he's been loosing momentum for months now and since Survivor Series depending on if you believe the reports.

CSL
03-15-2012, 04:17 PM
dunno about Ziggler, just because you want to/do already pop for him doesn't mean the "average fan" is going to (not saying he wouldn't be a success but he's hardly fleshed out his heel character yet, let alone turning)

I think Miz if he went the same route as Rock aka doesn't really change anything about his character except eliminating the "heel elements" (basically the whining, insulting the fans/hostility) I think he could do well as a "reluctant face", the crowd definitely would get behind "because I'm The Miz and I'm...awesome", plant the seeds, have him look all shocked when the crowd join in with the catchphrase etc, maybe off the back of this "not getting any recognition" schtick he's doing atm (say Johnny Ace wins at Mania, Miz could "go after" him and Otunga, change the focus from "what about me, I headlined Mania last year" etc to "I'm going to take what I want to get to where I want to be" etc) yadda yadda yadda

RiX1024
03-15-2012, 04:28 PM
Can't imagine The Miz as a face, Dolph is a maybe, Drew has the heel look but would be effective as a face.

Lock Jaw
03-15-2012, 04:43 PM
I can imagine Miz as a face. He pretty much gave a face promo after he won the WWE Title. About how nobody thought he would amount to anything, but he fought for everything, OVERCAME THE ODDS, and now was champ. If that wasn't a feel good Face-like story, I don't know what is.

In Exile
03-15-2012, 05:01 PM
I was thinking of a Miz face-run similar to Triple H as a face around the time of Summerslam 2000, when Kurt Angle was going after his woman.

Not that it should be an angle specifically mirroring that, but that he should somehow be booked as a face of circumstance. Someone else fucks with him in a way that is terrible enough that fans have no choice but to support Miz in fighting back.

To make him a fan pandering face, or to make him someone who is 'good' would be a mistake in my opinion. Especially when you consider that he's not a bad ass in any way, not powerful really in any way. He's just crafty.. needs to be a face of circumstance.

JKWJRMON
03-15-2012, 05:15 PM
Ziggler, Swagger

Wolfpack423
03-15-2012, 06:20 PM
The Miz is the best choice for this in my opinion. He would be able to pull it off really well.

KaosDarksol
03-15-2012, 07:32 PM
I could see miz as a credible face would also love to see del rio as a face

Aikido
03-16-2012, 03:22 AM
wouldn't mind seeing Otunga turning face, only to find out tatt triple h put him next to johnny ace, so he could bring down johnnys reign from inside, something about otunga, and i hate to say this, reminds me of a black cena.......

XL
03-16-2012, 07:28 AM
That's Darren Young.

Dukelorange
03-16-2012, 12:37 PM
If they want ot throw a loop, have Beth be a face... Have all the barbie doll divas get stuck on themselves and have Beth lead the charge with Nattie, AJ, and Naomi as the pure athletic types...

Mr. Nerfect
03-16-2012, 07:23 PM
The Miz could make a great face under the right circumstances. He's got the mic skills, the catchphrases and the ability to do public appearances for the WWE. He'll just drop the annoying elements of his character and replace them with different annoying elements.

Dolph Ziggler, as far as ring work goes, could make a great babyface. I'm in no hurry to see him turned, though. I'd rather see Jack Swagger turn right now. Ziggler is just too good, and is still finding his centre as a heel, let alone as a face (as CSL said). One day, but just not now.

I have no doubt that Wade Barrett could play a great face. Would he be a better heel? Yeah, probably. But give Barrett the right situation and he could play a cool, relaxed "I'm going go kick your ass now" babyface effortlessly.

Alberto Del Rio would be interesting. His whole character now is so heel. I don't have any doubts that Del Rio has got the ring skills to pull it off, but I just can't imagine Del Rio coming out in one of his cards with his personal ring announcer as being anything other than a face of circumstance -- the "lesser of two evils," if you will.

Christian turning is something that I want to happen. There are very few guys who can play effective faces, and I think Christian is one of them. His heel shtick really doesn't have too much of a place at the moment. Have him turn on Team Laurinaitis at WrestleMania and stay the same wormy, lawyer-using character; but he uses it for the powers of good now. Sort of like a heel Christian we are meant to cheer, instead of the confident, honest face he played for years.

Drew McIntyre recently convinced me that he could make a great babyface. I think the WWE have shat the bed with that one, though. Maybe a few months down the track.

Mr. Nerfect
03-16-2012, 07:52 PM
Later this year, I would not be against a Cody Rhodes face turn, either. Hear me out: At WrestleMania, I think that Big Show wins the IC Title after knocking Rhodes out. As Rhodes is being helped to the back after Big Show's celebration, he pushes the referees off him and stumbles groggily around the side of the stage on his own as the commentators speculate that Rhodes must be out of it, but is one tough bastard. Heading into Extreme Rules, Rhodes changes up his attire to something darker again, and goes after the legs of Big Show heading into a contractual rematch for the IC Title. The only word Rhodes speaks during this whole time is "Rematch!" At Extreme Rules, Rhodes uses his strategy of going after the leg of Show, and ends up getting him in a Figure Four Leg Lock, and even though Show gets to the ropes, there's no disqualifications, so Rhodes keeps the submission in and Show has to tap. Rhodes is the new Intercontinental Champion!

RAW sees the draft happen, and early on, Rhodes is drafted to RAW. Big Show vs. Cody Rhodes in another Intercontinental Title match is scheduled, and Rhodes is all "I'm on a different brand now," and Teddy Long is all "Too bad, playa -- Big Show's getting his shot." Their match goes for a little while, before Rhodes kicks Big Show low getting himself purposely disqualified. He then DDTs Show and hits his leg several times with a steel chair or something. Big Show takes some time off to sell the injury and to rest his body for real, and Rhodes then enters a feud with Goldust where he beats his own brother because the IC Title is so important to him. He perhaps even beats Jerry Lawler, and goes on a beat of a legend-beating spree.

Where does the face turn come in? Rhodes starts claiming that he's the greatest Intercontinental Champion of all-time. Chris Jericho takes exception to that. Rhodes says he doesn't need nine reigns to be associated with this championship; he's done it in two. Jericho says that he invented being a great Intercontinental Champion, and basically the two are set for a SummerSlam match or something. Now, while there is no explicit face-turn yet, hopefully the fans would be getting behind Rhodes, who is exactly the same character but just kicking a heel's ass. Jericho might get cheered as well, and if that happens, maybe they should go with the Jericho turn instead. The way I see things progressing, though -- Rhodes beats Jericho cleanly to prove that he's the greatest Intercontinental Champion of all-time. Cleanly. Jericho is furious and attacks Rhodes in a rage on RAW. Full-on heel assault. Jericho then gets one of Cody's old-school paper bags and puts it over Cody's head. "That's your greatest champ?!? That's your greatest champ?!?"

Night of Champions has Rhodes vs. Jericho for the IC Title again -- No Holds Barred. The finish sees a similar outcome to the Extreme Rules one. Jericho has Rhodes in the Walls of Jericho, and although Cody makes it to the ropes, Jericho refuses to break and Rhodes passes out to the pain and Jericho is declared the new champion. Michael Cole is all "It's just like Cody did to The Big Show!" when the face announcers talk about how this is wrong. "It was wrong then, it's wrong now, Cole!" - Booker T. Jericho comes out for a massive celebration on RAW, when Cody attacks Jericho just like Jericho did Cody. He beats Jericho around the stage area, and at the end pulls out a paper bag. Hopefully by now, people are behind Cody, and when he busts out the bag to put over Jericho's head, they go nuts. Cody doesn't start pandering to the audience at all, he just kicks ass, bags heels and is one tenacious little dude. We'd be heading now into what is still officially listed as the Hell in a Cell PPV -- and while I hate that concept, if they keep it this year, there would be no feud more deserving at the time to be in that match than Jericho and Rhodes. Cody can make the official challenge, since he's owed a rematch, and it's billed as the absolute last chance either has to get their hands on the other. Rhodes says that his dream was to pour prestige back into the Intercontinental Title, and by going to war for it, he and Jericho will.

Heading into the match, Rhodes completely messes with Jericho by stealing some of his moves. The Codebreaker would work in Cody's moveset, I feel, since Cody doesn't wear knee-pads. I'm resisting the urge to call it "The Cody Breaker," though. He could also bust out the Walls of Jericho, which he can call "Rhodes to Nowhere," or something. Anyway, the point is that Jericho and Rhodes have been picking into each other's bag of tricks to try and put the other man down and prove they are better. At Hell in a Cell, Cody regains the Intercontinental Title when he makes Jericho submit to the Rhodes to Nowhere. Now in his third reign as Intercontinental Champion, RAW sees Cody comes out and cuts a promo like this:

"The Intercontinental Championship has been the most important thing in my life for over the past year. We broke up for a week or two here and there, but I was certain we were meant to be together. I thought winning her back at Hell in a Cell would bring me some sort of satisfaction, but I only feel longing... for another. Don't get me wrong, I more so than anybody in this building appreciates what the Intercontinental Championship means -- I helped her get that meaning back -- but it would be selfish of me to keep her to myself when there are others who covert her and don't have eyes elsewhere."

Cody then holds up the Intercontinental Title and looks directly into it:

"Baby, it's not you -- it's me."

Cody then announces that he's relinquishing the Intercontinental Championship, because he's going to become the new WWE Champion! Hence Cody begins a build to the Royal Rumble, with no secondary title safety net, which he intends to win so he can challenge for the title of his choosing at WrestleMania.

Party Hardy
03-16-2012, 10:14 PM
I think the Miz could be a face that's over like rover and grover when they hanging out in Dover. Whys that you ask? Cuz the Miz knows how to party not like a hardy but more like a matt hardy impersonator like my cousin. He got laid once.

James Steele
03-16-2012, 11:13 PM
Stop.

CSL
03-17-2012, 12:10 AM
Hammer time