I Care So Little About WWE Right Now

[KayfabeMan]

and have for such a long time - that I am literally 30 mins. away from Miami and have not even considered going to WM or any of the festivities this year.

I am forced to attend RAW, as I am going to help chaperone a charity group that got tickets from WWE - but I am 1000% sure I will spend most of the night on the internet on my phone, when not looking after the kids.

Yeah.

So that is really how bad it has gotten for me.

Is anyone else completely not interested - or getting there? :?:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's a lot better than this time last year. Nexus had been aborted for a while and WM was pretty dull.

The card for WM bar a few necessary exceptions is stacked too so I'm quite excited right now. I stopped watching like 2002 until the ECW revival, then stopped after Heyman left again and didn't get back into it until the Nexus.

For me, it's one hell of a lot better creatively than post-invasion WWE.

[#1-norm-fan]

I think things are at a high point right now and it's not just the WrestleMania build. If you've been uninterested for a while though then I guess the peaks and valleys don't really stand out as much.

[#1-norm-fan]

It actually sounds more like you just growing out of a love for wrestling personally than anything that has to do with the product.

[KayfabeMan]

It's not really that.

Actually, over the past few months I've got back in the ring - lost some weight, toned up, etc. Been trying to prepare to make a return to 'full-time' indy work and maybe run some shows - so it's not that I'm totally disinterested - just in most of today's product.

TNA entertains me every now and again - but they too [obviously] let me down.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

If this WrestleMania was even remotely close to me i'd be there.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The only problem I see right now is that it's not as good as last summer or the summer before that. I don't know why they can be creatively great in small pockets and then merely passable like they are right now.

I'm excited for WM for the matches. Barring Punk/Jericho, the build-up has been a bit shitty.

[KayfabeMan]

When I read the WM card, I was only interested in Punk vs. Y2J and HHH vs. Taker.

Don't care for the Rock or Cena, so that was out - and to me, the rest of the card felt like something they'd put together when you play a season mode on a WWE game, if Maria Menounos was on the game of course.

[KayfabeMan]

If this WrestleMania was even remotely close to me i'd be there.

:( Wish it were closer to you STD.

Hate it when people would like to go to something and can't.

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't know. The rise of Punk and how Cena is being used as well as Rock's return are both just perfect for pleasing the entire spectrum of wrestling fans. I really think they're on such a great path.

The midcard is shit still though which does make the week by week shows a crapshoot. And I find live WWE events overrated anyway so seeing it live would actually bring it down more.

[Juan]

I'm far more excited for this years Mania than last year

[#1-norm-fan]

When I read the WM card, I was only interested in Punk vs. Y2J and HHH vs. Taker.

Don't care for the Rock or Cena, so that was out - and to me, the rest of the card felt like something they'd put together when you play a season mode on a WWE game, if Maria Menounos was on the game of course.

It had potential to be better than it is. I said before, there was an EASY great "WrestleMania feel" match just sitting there between The Miz and Zack Ryder by having Eve hook up with Miz and mixing one of the hotter storylines over the last few months with last year's WM main event winner. Such an awful dropping of the ball.

Creative still needs to be consistent and aim for perfection with every little detail instead of half-assing a lot of stuff and writing lazy like they tend to do. Sheamus and Bryan's build has also left a lot to be desired.

Rock-Cena and Taker-HHH have a great feel though and Jericho-Punk has been good though they've struggled to bring it up and make it feel like a legit main event with those other two matches on the card.

[KayfabeMan]

It had potential to be better than it is.

Creative still needs to be consistent and aim for perfection with every little detail instead of half-assing a lot of stuff and writing lazy like they tend to do.

This I think is most of the problem.

That, and for me, I just have little to no interest in most of 'today's guys'. It has 50/50 to do with their actual abilities and the above mentioned problems.

[KayfabeMan]

Also, I agree with your statements and assessments above - about the build-up, potential factors, etc.

[Juan]

I have 5 bucks on #1 wwf fan saying this will be the worst WrestleMania ever for the the third straight year ;)

[KayfabeMan]

:lol:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

A lot of good stuff on paper for this WrestleMania. Rock/Cena changes everything about this WrestleMania but not because of the match itself.Every single superstar in the back will want to steal the show to show these guys up.

The only matches I couldn't give a shit about is Kane/Orton and the Divas match. Though Maria is a Patriots fan, so I gotta support her a little bit. The wrong Maria is involved in the WWE right now though. :(

The Daniel Bryan/Sheamus thing is great right now. They were cut from the show last year and now they are part of a World Title match. They both fought back from getting somewhat de-pushed and are in the Smackdown main event for the World Heavyweight Title.

Big Show and Cody have entertained with Big Show's disappointing WM appearances in the past.

"Wrestlemania Whoooooo!"

Cody currently is the 9th longest Intercontinental Champion in history. I hope he retains and keeps his push strong. If he loses I hope he's the first in line for Sheamus for the World Title (if Sheamus wins and DB doesn't get the title back at the next PPV.) If I could find a basketball face-guard for cheap I was planning to be Cody at a WrestlMania costume party.

-CM Punk and Jericho is a dream match.

-Zack Ryder getting his first WM match. WWE also putting together the tag team match for power of Raw/Smackdown. Interesting how they have sort quickly switched from Raw vs. Smackdown to Teddy/Johnny.

-Plus an outside Hell in a Cell. Should be interesting if it rains.

[#1-norm-fan]

I have 5 bucks on #1 wwf fan saying this will be the worst WrestleMania ever for the the third straight year ;)

Did I really say that about 26? Holy shit you have a good memory. lol

[#1-norm-fan]

If I did, I was probably just pissed because HBK lost.

Last year was definitely the worst ever though.

[Juan]

Did I really say that about 26? Holy shit you have a good memory. lol

lol I dunno, but I know you've said it more than once

[#BROKEN Hasney]

26 was a real mixed bag, but it had MITB, HBK/Taker and Punk/Mysterio. Edge/Jericho was fun, but it was a victim of expectation I think. It was as mind-blowingly awesome as we were all expecting. HHH/Sheamus and the Legacy match were acceptable but everything else stunk quite hard.

27 was the mouthwash to make the taste of that go away though. Shame it was made from liquid dog faeces.

[#1-norm-fan]

This I think is most of the problem.

That, and for me, I just have little to no interest in most of 'today's guys'. It has 50/50 to do with their actual abilities and the above mentioned problems.

I'd actually say it's much more the writing. Good writing can make David Otunga somewhat interesting. Bad writing can hide a potential mega-star from being noticed. I bet there's a few guys on the roster you have no interest in that you would LOVE if they were put in the right situation.

[#1-norm-fan]

(Johnny Curtis)

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Brodus Clay should have won that season of NXT anyways. Basically he did anyways.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Drew McIntyre

[KayfabeMan]

Thanks for a great discussion thus far guys.

Like to hear everyone's views and opinions here. :y:

[Team Sheep]

When I bought my Mania ticket back in November I wasn't very excited for it. But every year with out fail they get me hooked during Wrestlemania season, so I knew I'd regret it if I didn't go. Now I'm here I'm glad that I booked the trip. My interest tends to peak then through the Summer months because there's not a whole lot else to watch sports wise. Then when August/September comes around WWE takes a back seat for me until the Royal Rumble again. I still watch during those months, I just don't give it as much attention or care as much as other things as I spend much of my time reading about and watching Rugby, Football and NFL at stupid times in the morning.

[Droford]

Im fairly convinced that top top 5 matches on the card (everything but the RAW/SD GM match, Divas Match and Orton/Kane) will be Wrestlemania quality matches that will make this stand out as one of the top WM's ever.

I say Im fairly convinced because I have a bad feeling that Sheamus/Daniel Bryan is going to get short changed in the time department, but if they give it time it will be good.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm disappointed that they couldn't do more with Orton and Kane since both had potential to have great WrestleMania matches.

[Lock Jaw]

Personally, I am a lot less interested in this year's Mania compared to last year's.

The build for most of the matches seem really weak compared to last year.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm looking forward to the 12 man though just because there's so much at stake and while it's obviously not gonna be a mat classic, it should be a fun match.

[#1-norm-fan]

Personally, I am a lot less interested in this year's Mania compared to last year's.

The build for most of the matches seem really weak compared to last year.

Really??

The build to Cena-Miz was horrendous and the match lived up to it. It's like night and day compared to Cena-Rock this year. Triple H and Taker is more intriguing this year than it was last as well. It's pretty much like last year was just a bigger scale Raw to set up this year's WrestleMania.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Really??

The build to Cena-Miz was horrendous and the match lived up to it. It's like night and day compared to Cena-Rock this year. Triple H and Taker is more intriguing this year than it was last as well. It's pretty much like last year was just a bigger scale Raw to set up this year's WrestleMania.

Exactly. Except for the glaring hole in your argument RE: Miz-Cena last year - The less build any rivalry has to a PPV match, WrestleMania or not, the less it will have to live up to, so it really shouldn't surprise you that it lived up to not just your expectations but pretty much everyone else's.

Not a personal knock on you #1-wwf-fan, I'm just throwin' that out there.

[Gertner]

I'm not as interested as I used to be. The WWE or wrestling in general is only on my t.v when there's no Leaf/Jays games on. Can't really pinpoint it, although I starting to think with my love for Brodus Clay, it's because of the lack of characters. WWE will deny it, but MMA has had a major influence. Soooo many wrestlers now don't have an identifiable gimmick anymore. I give the guys in ROH so much flack because they are basically have the same "intense gimmick". I enjoyed it more when each guy had some sort of gimmick, be it Val Venis' porn star gimmick to APA's bar room brawler gimmick. Too much of the same thing exists and that why I really like Clay and am looking forward to Lord Tenshi.

[#1-norm-fan]

Probably poor wording on my part. I should have said "lived down to it". As in the build was horrendous and the match went on to be on par with what was expected.

[#1-norm-fan]

It may have a little to do with MMA, Gertner but I'd credit it more to just a lack of creativity.

[Pintint]

Im not really interested in any of the top matches this year...

The only ones im interested in are Team Teddy/Team Johnny and Cody/Show.

Taker/HHH is a distant third.

[#1-norm-fan]

Brodus Clay should have won that season of NXT anyways. Basically he did anyways.

I remember being surprised and thinking it was hilarious when Johnny Curtis won and seeing everyone react as I was only barely paying attention to that season. Then I actually went back and watched it and found out for myself how ridiculously charismatic Johnny Curtis is.

[Gertner]

Johnny Curtis pulls off the creepy gimmick better than anybody I've seen. He's really great.

[Lock Jaw]

The WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE match this year has little to no heat. Same with Randy Orton's match. Cody Rhode's match (and build up) is a tremendous step down from last year, despite being a title match.

[Gertner]

The WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE match this year has little to no heat. Same with Randy Orton's match. Cody Rhode's match (and build up) is a tremendous step down from last year, despite being a title match.

That's because Daniel Bryan is terrible. They needed to have him be mean to a chick just to get any heat.

[MoFo]

HHH/Taker has been pretty awesome tbh so far, best match on the card IMO.

Obvs Rock/Cena will be OTT fun though.

The rest can go fuck itself.

[#1-norm-fan]

I agree with the three LockJaw mentioned. The lower card is pretty weak as far as build. Last year's wasn't exactly incredible though outside Cody and Rey. Orton-Punk was kinda formulaic.

The main event and the rest of the upper card is insanely better built that last year though. Blows it out of the water. I feel like Punk and Jericho only suffers because Rock-Cena and HHH-Taker's build has been so good that it's kinda just lost in the shuffle.

[Lock Jaw]

Orton/Punk build was pretty good actually.

As for Punk/Jericho... I don't like the stuff they have been doing with Jericho insulting Punk's family. Seems like the feud didn't really need it. Should have just been the whole "Best In The World" issue, like it was at first.

[#1-norm-fan]

It was an attempt to bring the heat up to the level of the other two. I don't really mind it. I'm still much more interested in it than I was with Orton and Punk last year and the terrible WWE title match last year too. It's the third best built match on the card and it's way better built than the main event last year.

[Lock Jaw]

I enjoyed the build up of Cena/Miz and thought the match was good until the end of it at least.

[James Steele]

As for Punk/Jericho... I don't like the stuff they have been doing with Jericho insulting Punk's family. Seems like the feud didn't really need it. Should have just been the whole "Best In The World" issue, like it was at first.

Most fans, myself included, probably would have gotten tired of them talking to each other in the ring about how they are the best in the world. There is only so much material the "Who is the best in the world?" thing has, and they couldn't fill 6-7 weeks with it.

[Lock Jaw]

Maybe they couldn't, but I could. Tell them to hire me back. :shifty:

[Mr. Pierre]

At first I wasn't a fan of the "personal" addition to the Jericho/Punk feud, but I agree with Steele, it needed it. It adds more interest in the match for majority of fans, and it also adds another dimension to each wrestler's character going into Mania.

[Rock Bottom]

That stuff is gold, and it's Jericho giving lessons on how to get yourself over as a heel. I hope some of their younger heels pay attention and learn from it.

[dingdongyo]

i'm really excited for rock/cena, despite the fact that the build up has lost steam for me recently. i just want to see how it ends.

i could kind of foresee myself yawning halfway through that match though.

i'm compelled to watch wrestlemania. i don't really know what i want to see. that's kind of the point, i guess: i want to be surprised.

[#1-norm-fan]

I think the crowd will make the match exciting enough throughout.

[Fox]

I don't care much about WWE right now either. I read results, but I don't bother to watch RAW or Smackdown when they're on. I sometimes watch matches on YouTube if they get good reviews.

But I'm buying WrestleMania this year because I'm sold on it. Rock/Cena is going to be amazing on Hogan/Rock levels, and as a fan of professional wrestling, there's no way I'm missing that. Plus we get Punk/Jericho, Bryan/Sheamus and some other shit. I could really care less about Triple H/Undertaker, although I'm sure it will be "brutal."

[#1-norm-fan]

WORST WRESTLEMANIA EVER

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm kidding of course. It was quite good.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Johnny Curtis was the perfect choice to win NXT Season 4 or whatever it was he was on. Brodus Clay was going to be used as a bodyguard for Alberto Del Rio and would get over that way, and Derrick Bateman was charismatic, but not that great in the ring. Byron Saxton would have been an appropriate choice, but he too sort of left something to be desired.

Curtis was the closest thing to a whole package in that season, and they haven't done much with him, but he's very entertaining on NXT Redemption.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The WWE missed an opportunity at WrestleMania by not having one little backstage segment where Curtis approached Kelly Kelly and Maria Menounos after their match and asked them if they wanted to get weird.