The Brock Thread

[Savio]

WOOOOOOOOOOO! If he didn't come back tonight I might have gone back to missing shows.

Pretty good post Mania raw.

I see A-Train being dropped or becoming a "Big Daddy V" type character.

DB needs to be prominent on Smackdown! tomorrow.

I don't see a logical way on how Rock can get the title and not show up weekly, I guess he challenges some one and loses.

[Shisen Kopf]

Woooooo rasslin!

[GD]

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I am going to go out on a limb and say that I am possibly the biggest Brock Lesnar mark ever on this website. He was the reason why I re-started watching WWE after missing out on the Attitude Era and the Invasion storyline. He was the reason why I watched Smackdown. I cannot be more happy as a wrestling fan. This is a dream come true for me. I am marking the fuck out!

[Swiss Ultimate]

Fat. Glad he didn't talk.

[ace3025]

Great RAW! While rock and Brock had a great moments, the punk and Jericho moment was truly great. And really, the thing that made it great was the insanity of the crowd. Seriously, the crowd made every moment ten times better.

A-train and Eve were the low points of the night, but everything else was top notch

[Droford]

I don't see a logical way on how Rock can get the title and not show up weekly, I guess he challenges some one and loses.

Rock wins the RAW MITB case at the MITB PPV..obviously.

[FearedSanctity]

I don't see a logical way on how Rock can get the title and not show up weekly, I guess he challenges some one and loses.

He's got movies to do for now. My money is on him winning the 2013 Rumble

[Aguakate]

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[jkman61494]

Well we saw what happens when Brock gets off the roids and supplaments. I'm glad he's back, but he looked like a deflated balloon.

In a way it's fine. I'd rather see these guys hit the age of 50 before dying on us. But it was just kind of striking to see what these guys were doing to themselves even up until a few years ago.

[CSL]

http://www.completemartialarts.com/whoswho/ufc/images/brocklesnar.jpg

that's Brock Lesnar not on steroids

he's just probably given himself some "downtime". Even with that said you couldn't really tell what shape he's in except he's not got much size (in Brock terms) on his arms rn

[weather vane]

It's no big deal that he is slightly smaller but fuck don't come out looking like a slob. He was wearing a shirt a size too big with no tan and his pants were dragging on his shitty old gym shoes.

Despite that it was still epic but it kind of did take away from it.

[Lock Jaw]

Rock wins the RAW MITB case at the MITB PPV..obviously.

Nah.

Rock is obviously winning the Royal Rumble. Cena will be champ. He will face Cena again at Mania.

Cena will win.

[FearedSanctity]

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[Blakeamus]

I see A-Train being dropped or becoming a "Big Daddy V" type character.


I was thinking that he could eventually get knocked on the head and he would snap back into A-Train...I can see WWE really doing that if this Lord Tensai doesn't go over.

[Gonzo]

I think it's a bit silly that they (apparently) aren't going to acknowledge his former character. It could easily be a footnote that he went to Japan and became so and so. It hasn't been that long has it? Surely people know who he is.

[CSL]

they did

[Heyman]

I can see Kane Knight engaging in regular masturbation after RAW episodes now that Lord Tensai is "back".

(Kane Knight had a legitimate man crush on Albert back in 2003 for those that don't kmow).

[JimmyMess]

http://i.imgur.com/zXjVC.gif

I was dying laughing at that guy

[GD]

I was doing the same in my living room.

[Logan]

As far as A-train goes, I hope hes used right.

Brock wise, I hope that w.e ailment he has (I forget the name offhand) doesn't do him in, like it did in mma.

[Mr. C]

I can’t see it happening right away, but I can’t see them waiting a year either. SummerSlam seems perfect to me.

[Gonzo]

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I lol'd at him. In the middle of doing it he took a quick look at the camera. Pretty rofl.

[FearedSanctity]

PWInsider reports that Brock Lesnar showed up to RAW literally 30 seconds before he appeared on TV.

This probably explains why it seemed like John Cena was stalling during his promo.

[Blakeamus]

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[Droford]

wonder if they had a backup plan if Lesnar didnt show up..

[Splaya]

While Lesnar returning was great...that crowd reaction sent chills down my spine

[The MAC]

So the concept is stars who left WWe return to beat Cena up? I like it!

[Blakeamus]

How long is Angle's contract with TNA? I wouldn't be surprised if he starts stroking Vinnie Mac's grapefruits to return.

[Droford]

So the concept is stars who left WWe return to beat Cena up? I like it!

Jesus obviously has to come back..I mean, the whole stabbing thing can't be that easily forgotten..

Others
Angle, Goldberg, JBL, Rob Van Dam, Kevin Federline, Batista...

[Rock Bottom]

Nah.

Rock is obviously winning the Royal Rumble. Cena will be champ. He will face Cena again at Mania.

Cena will win.

Cena isn't going anywhere near the WWE championship ever again/for a very long time.

I advise people to unlearn John Cena.

[Rock Bottom]

We have such huge stars hanging around in the WWE now, I'm even more surprised that people actually think Cena is still somehow "on top" or whatever than I was surprised that people thought he would beat The Rock in Miami.

John Cena = Big Fish

WWE = Little Pond

Rock = Big Ass Shark

Brock = Nuclear Submarine

[Rock Bottom]

Triple H is the Kraken. The Undertaker is Davy Jones. Dunno.

And let's not forget CM Punk, who is being groomed as the guy to take Cena's place after the dust settles, if and when the big boys go away forever/mostly forever. John Cena is a piece of meat that is going to be thrown to the wolves on his way out. Please understand this so that when the WWE moves on, you all go with it without confusion!

[KaosDarksol]

Just glad Brock wore a shirt so we didn't have to see the penis on his chest during raw

[Razzamajazz]

i could've gone without seeing that brock signing with wwe spoilers posted here previously, so the mark out moment was diminished by quite a bit. however, it is still awesome seeing a tiny lesnar back

[teamXtremist]

fckn epic moment!!! the cena heel turn is in full effect

[Tom Guycott]

i could've gone without seeing that brock signing with wwe spoilers posted here previously, so the mark out moment was diminished by quite a bit. however, it is still awesome seeing a tiny lesnar back

Yeah, but how often are people in the IWC wrong? It's a bigger spoiler when you try to catch raw later via YT, and the top videos that pop up are this exact spoiler. :(

About the "not on 'roids" thing: yeah, the MMA pic higher up the thread is how he looks off the gas, but compare that to the footage of him on his 'tron. Then compare both of those to him actually walking out. His arms were pretty flabby looking. He's still a big fucker, no doubt, but not nearly AS imposing as he used to look.

Not saying I'm not glad to see him back. Just saying, now, he kinda looked like Sandman minus beer/cig/cane.

[XL]

Are we taking this as a longterm/perminant signing for Lesnar? Or will it be a slow burn/long build to a match versus Cena? If it's the latter, he has plenty of time to train.

But I'm not at all bothered about what kind of shape he is in tbh. Been a Brock mark for a loooooooong time, think it was only this past year that I did away with his skull image as my avatar. Very pleased to see him back in whatever capacity.

[dablackguy]

Fat. Glad he didn't talk.

Agree. I didn't think he looked in shape at all - soft is a pretty fair description of how he looked. And in terms of kayfabe, he didn't need to talk, dropping Cena said it all.

[Savio]

I hope he still remembers how to talk on the mic for next time.

I would have to doubt that rumor about him being so late is true.

[XL]

Rumour is that Brock will be making a couple of appearances per month, with more in the build to Mania.

But perhaps more interesting is the idea of Rock vs Brock as the Main Event for Mania 29.

[Rammsteinmad]

fckn epic moment!!! the cena heel turn is in full effect

How do you come to that conclusion?

[FearedSanctity]

I would have to doubt that rumor about him being so late is true.

Nah, it was pretty clear that Cena was stalling, which he did a pretty good job of. Seems like he motioned to the ramp expecting the music to hit at least a couple times before it actually did. I'm guessing someone at ringside signaled to John when Brock finally arrived

[Savio]

Nah, it was pretty clear that Cena was stalling, which he did a pretty good job of. Seems like he motioned to the ramp expecting the music to hit at least a couple times before it actually did. I'm guessing someone at ringside signaled to John when Brock finally arrived
It sounds like they kept him hidden, not that he was running late. I doubt it was 11 o'clock with no one knowing where brock was and they just deciced to do the segment anyway hoping brock would show.

[FearedSanctity]

It'd be nothing new though. Surprise guys usually arrive late to avoid being spoiled too soon. Even WWE's official Twitter said he'd just walked about a minute before he showed up on screen

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Rumour is that Brock will be making a couple of appearances per month, with more in the build to Mania.

But perhaps more interesting is the idea of Rock vs Brock as the Main Event for Mania 29.

Oh for fucks sake. The 1 year build for Rock/Cena was bad enough.

Might be alright if they don't announce it for next years Mania next week and just have them do other things, although it would be a touch silly after that F5.

[MoFo]

Man he got a huge pop, it was like when HHH returned in MSG

Awesome moment, must of watched it 5000 times on Youtube just for when his music hits

[FearedSanctity]

Oh for fucks sake. The 1 year build for Rock/Cena was bad enough.

Might be alright if they don't announce it for next years Mania next week and just have them do other things, although it would be a touch silly after that F5.

Nah, I don't think it'll be that bad. He'll essentially be on TV at least every other week, because from what I've read his deal is for AT LEAST two appearances a month. Probably gives him a chance to have another feud before the one with whoever his WM29 opponent will be.

Well, that's how I'd do it anyway

[CSL]

I'm fairly sure he's "back", I think we'll see him every week, he just won't work many house shows

[Asmo]

Got goosebumps watching the return. Marked out mad when the music hit, even though i'd read the spoilers. As Guru said, Brock got me back in to wrestling (and this was after Rock VS Brock). Hope we get to see a Brock VS Sheamus, Brock VS Punk and especially a Brock VS Daniel Bryan feud sometime soon.

[Theo Dious]

I'm pretty excited about what Brock can do, but it does strike me as kind of odd that he's getting such a mad reception from the wrestling world when he left the company to serious contempt and derisive chants.

[BrockLesnarRulez]

BROCK LESNAR has made WWE watchable. WWE has been a garbage dump ever since Brock left them but now it looks like THINGS ARE ABOUT TO CHANGE because Brock is back and he is the greatest wrestler of all time.

HERE COMES THE PAIN.

I hope Brock goes on a spree, destroying Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, Cena, Triple H and all other WWE losers.
Brock needs to win WWE title ASAP.

[XL]

I'm pretty excited about what Brock can do, but it does strike me as kind of odd that he's getting such a mad reception from the wrestling world when he left the company to serious contempt and derisive chants.
"Time heals all wounds" or some bullshit?

[XL]

I'd kinda dig Brock vs HHH as we didn't really get it in his first run (sans a Triple Threat Match on an international PPV).

[CSL]

"wrestling fans are monstrously fickle" http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[XL]

*except for CSL ;)

[CSL]

eggzackery

[Mr. C]

I’d love to see Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena at SummerSlam, then sometime after, have Cena pick up the title, taking it into WrestleMania. The Rock gets the match by winning the Royal Rumble, and then build the rematch with Rock pushing that he has Cena’s number. I have no reasoning to back that up, so let's just call it a hunch.

[srnrew]

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Nobody was happier than this guy, for sure

[Gertner]

Brock's new cathphrase should be "Here comes the pizza". Guy looks like an indy wrestling fan.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I'm fairly sure he's "back", I think we'll see him every week, he just won't work many house shows

Yeah, a lighter schedule in terms of non-Raw/Smackdown stuff could work considering he hated the whole road aspect of the job.

As far as storyline goes, it seems like this should be a Rock/Cena/Brock thing. Rock and Cena should have been square last night, but Rock didn't come out or come out to save Cena. There's a lot they could do with this if everyone was willing.

Rock promising to be WWE Champ again seems like he's ready to come back for a bit, maybe a 6-month stretch in the near future even and probably for next Mania.

[Krimzon7]

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I love this gif.

[Droford]

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miss the Brock Lock

[dingdongyo]

lesnar was awesome to watch because his athleticism was out of this fucking world. he was 295 lbs of solid muscle. he flew higher than mysterio, pulled off more impressive power moves than cena and was about as quick as angle and guerrero. i can't think of a better athlete ever. it's not even that close.

there really was no other reason to watch him. but that was reason enough.

that's the guy i saw in the titantron. and i was jacked when his music hit too.

then a fat kid came out.

he didn't jump to the apron. i don't think he can anymore. all he did was his goofy little shuffle and spike cena.

i'm feeling underwhelmed so far.

[Shisen Kopf]

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Nobody was happier than this guy, for sure
Is that Stifler?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Holy crap at people bitching about Lesnar being back. A freakish dude that really could have been the biggest Superstar of all-time (at least of the modern era) returns, after getting some "real world" credibility, and people want to bitch that he doesn't look imposing? He fucking levelled Cena and looked like he wanted to eat his liver.

The only thing I hope is that they give Paul Heyman a talent contract to return and do some speaking for Brock. The dude had some entertaining moments (Mariachi Brock springs to mind), but the dude was never fantastic on the stick. That's when Brock needs to talk -- he's fine destroying shit for right now.

It would make sense to do The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar pretty soon (not SummerSlam -- that's way too far away), and for Lesnar to beat Rocky and to use that to grind Cena's gears a bit en route to their inevitable match.

[Rammsteinmad]

I don't understand why people are so eager to see Lesnar and Rock, when we've already seen it ten years ago when both men were in their primes. Wouldn't it be better for Lesnar to actually work with todays talent and try to get them over some more? Guys like Orton, Bryan, Ziggler, definitely Sheamus and Barrett could all really elevate themselves with a Lesnar feud.

[James Steele]

I don't understand why people are so eager to see Lesnar and Rock, when we've already seen it ten years ago when both men were in their primes. Wouldn't it be better for Lesnar to actually work with todays talent and try to get them over some more? Guys like Orton, Bryan, Ziggler, definitely Sheamus and Barrett could all really elevate themselves with a Lesnar feud.

If he is back long-term, you aren't going to fucking job him out immediately.

[Rammsteinmad]

Never said anything about him jobbing.

[dronepool]

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[Lock Jaw]

http://i.imgur.com/vtJan.jpg

This explains why Cena did not struggle or fight back at all after being lifted onto Brock's shoulders.

[weather vane]

Just watched it again and WOWWW that pop was huge.

Amazing moment.

[Next Big Thing]

I see an epic Mania in New York where the Rock challenges Punk for the WWE title and Lesnar goes against Taker to snap the streak. I think a show like that would break records in terms of attendance and buyrate just off of those two matches.

[Sepholio]

Cena wins MITB. Brock wins title at Survivor Series or Rumble at latest from whoever. Rock win Rumble and challenges Lesnar at Mania. Rock wins. Cena cashes in MITB and beats Rock to win the title.

I'm not saying I like it, but come on, this is the WWE.

Also, I feel like this next Mania may be the one to have Stone Cold come back for one last match against Taker and his streak. He is the only person who I could ever see actually ending the streak.

[Aguakate]

http://i.imgur.com/zXjVC.gif

Heh, that guy did it as if he was flashing.

[FourFifty]

wonder if they had a backup plan if Lesnar didnt show up..

Yea, they had a back up plan.
http://www.tpww.net/forums/image.php?u=14015&dateline=1333423958

[Malfeitor]

Loved how Brock kicked Cena's hat. Haha.

[Savio]

You guys are ridiculous for thinking that brock actually showed up at 11

[Mr. C]

Yea, they had a back up plan.
http://www.tpww.net/forums/image.php?u=14015&dateline=1333423958

This is my new avatar!

[Lock Jaw]

But it is already Blakeamus' avatar.

[Rock Bottom]

I can't say for sure how this is all going to be booked without more information/time, but what I would LIKE to see is both The Rock AND Brock Lesnar chasing CM Punk's title while feuding with each other/Punk (this is after everyone takes turns shitting on Cena). There would be fucking heat all over that and it would be epic. Lesnar beat The Rock (was actually a pretty damn good match) years ago. I don't think anyone is going to hold a Goldberg job against Rock or Lesnar. I've managed to block it out of my mind, at least.

So you have the two guys who are "the shit" going after the next top guy.

Throw Steve Austin in there somewhere. Because Punk and Austin is walking money. ESPECIALLY after this Jericho shit.

Alternatively, you could have The Rock grab the title earlier on. Not only would it hype Mania, but it'd put The Rock in a nice ugly heel spot. If the WWE champion isn't there to defend the title, I don't care who you are, you're going to get heat. Either way, I'm pretty sure Rock is going to end up with the strap for a while. The WWE champion being one of the biggest movie stars around? Yeah, no brainer.

[Blakeamus]

But it is already Blakeamus' avatar.

:y: YES! YES! YES!

[Blakeamus]

This is my new avatar!

:n: NO! NO! NO!

[RVDmark]

Is it just me who remembers Brock for being dangerous in the ring? He dropped a number of people on their head/neck. Kennedy did 1 sloppy move to Randy Orton and he was exiled to TNA.

Now Brock is back and as much as the mark out moment was good, looking ahead is this really the best move by WWE? We've just had the Cena/Rock fued built around the fact that Rock go the chance to do movies and left WWE. At least Rock gave back to WWE what he took. Lesnar got pushed to the moon, said thanks, and left.

And now he's back as WWE thinks with Rock/Taker/HHH out of the picture they need a big name star to carry the company. It all seems very weird, is it 2001 again?

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

is it 2001 again?
I really hope so.

[Rammsteinmad]

Now Brock is back and as much as the mark out moment was good, looking ahead is this really the best move by WWE? We've just had the Cena/Rock fued built around the fact that Rock go the chance to do movies and left WWE. At least Rock gave back to WWE what he took. Lesnar got pushed to the moon, said thanks, and left.

Not gonna deny, I have a bit of resentment towards Lesnar returning for this. I mean, I marked out when his music hit and it's mad exciting and all, but ultimately he let the company down after they invested so much in him. His NFL career failed so he went to MMA. I wouldn't say his MMA career failed, but I'd imagine it didn't quite pan out the way he wanted. So now he goes crawling back to WWE and is basically in a position where he can pretty much do whatever he wants.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm sure Lesnar would be devastated if he read my post, though. :o

[James Steele]

I'm pretty sure Brock made the WWE a lot of money, so he doesn't owe WWE a whole hell of a lot other than an apology for that piece of shit "match" at WrestleMania XX and not doing the honors on his way out to a younger guy.

[CSL]

well he "did the honours" only to an older guy, that match had been built for like 2-3 months at that point, maybe even as far as back as Survivor Series

[PrettyCool]

Brocj Lesnar is a HUGE name no matter how u slice it. WWE owes it to him for him to come back there. Up until his last 2 fights (one he lost, but Overeem cheated), he was the worlds greatest MMA fighter and the biggest name in MMA. The fact that he came back to the WWE shows that he respects them for starting his career. The only reason his MMA career went down was because of his disease, if he didnt get sick, he would be beating ppl up in UFC right now.

[whiteyford]

One of the greatest MMA fighters in the world lol

[CSL]

from an MMA site

The details surrounding Brock Lesnar’s new WWE contract are beginning to emerge and it looks like the former Undisputed Champion has gotten himself a plum of a deal.

According to sPyWareInsider, Lesnar’s brand new deal — reportedly agreed upon and signed during WrestleMania 28 weekend and rumored to be in the $5 million range — will last through next year’s WrestleMania at Met Life Stadium in New Jersey. There, he will assumedly take part in a huge match-up with tons of mainstream press behind it. The Rock? The Undertaker? His victim last night, John Cena? All potential bouts would rake in tons of cash and score hundreds of thousands of pay-per-view (PPV) buys.

…

The current plan is for Lesnar to make appearances about twice a month with an even greater frequency in the months leading up to WrestleMania 29. The report also goes to state additional appearances could be negotiated on a case by case basis.

not bad work if you can get it (and if it's true obvs)

[whiteyford]

Add in his merchandise and PPV residuals to that and it looks even better.

[CSL]

I wonder if they'll put shirts out for him given he was wearing a new very pro-wrestling looking Deathclutch shirt (his brand) on RAW

[whiteyford]

You'd like to think they'd capitilize on him while its new,wouldnt be suprised if we got a Brock DVD by Christmas either.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Brock Lesnar will make the WWE a lot of money. They are fools if they don't bring him back. Absolute fools.

Lesnar vs. Cena is the big match right now, and I still believe that Lesnar should beat Rock en route to that. Extreme Rules would seem ideal, but I don't know if Brock should debut at a gimmick PPV. Over the Limit seems like it would be a good place.

[St. Jimmy]

I don't think so Noid. A) He's already back, you need to watch Raw. B) Rock vs. Brock is a Mania match that will draw.

Rock shouldn't come back til Survivor Series. Survivor Series have Rock/Cena II for the Number 1 Contender-ship for the WWE Title. Rock wins, barely. Rock vs. WWE Champion at the Rumble. Rock defends through chamber only to be Destroyed by Lesnar after the chamber. There's your Mania match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I know Brock is back -- I meant an official in-ring return. Although, with Punk vs. Jericho, Orton vs. Kane, Sheamus vs. Del Rio and Big Show vs. Rhodes seemingly being set-up for the event, it does leave Cena without anything to do. Could the WWE just throw us Cena vs. Lesnar at Extreme Rules? Seems unlikely. I guess there is Daniel Bryan without anything to do, either.

Lesnar vs. Bryan? That would be an absolutely amazing match, and possibly the best guy they could use to work off ring rust out of Lesnar's system. It would also make Bryan look like a million bucks just to hang with the guy, and would wash out his 18 second loss to Sheamus at Mania. Plus, it would make Sheamus himself look good for beating Bryan so quickly if Lesnar can't do it as quick (the WWE doesn't even need to state this). If the WWE are really daring, and they want to get behind this apparent Daniel Bryan machine, they could have John Cena run in and return some favours in Brock Lesnar's direction, and nail him with an Attitude Adjustment -- giving Bryan arguably the biggest win of his career.

I don't want to see Brock vs. Rock at WrestleMania. I've already seen it as SummerSlam ten years ago. Give me it at on a regular PPV; but at Mania, I want to see Lesnar do something epic.

[Gertner]

Brock should squash that vanilla midget in 8 seconds

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Spike Dudley of heel heat, ladies and gentlemen.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Lesnar VS. Rock VS. Cena @ Mania in a ECW Style Three-way Dance

[Emperor Smeat]

That would be pretty great but can't see them doing that considering Rock vs Cena was booked as a "once in a life time" match although Cena vs Brock would work out a lot better.

Unlike the feud with the Rock, Cena actually owes a lot to Lesnar because had Lesnar not left, its very unlikely Cena becomes the top star as quickly as he did. WWE basically treated Cena as Plan B/"Macho Man" compared to Brock's status as the future/"Hogan."

[Swiss Ultimate]

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[Swiss Ultimate]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

That would be pretty great but can't see them doing that considering Rock vs Cena was booked as a "once in a life time" match although Cena vs Brock would work out a lot better.

Unlike the feud with the Rock, Cena actually owes a lot to Lesnar because had Lesnar not left, its very unlikely Cena becomes the top star as quickly as he did. WWE basically treated Cena as Plan B/"Macho Man" compared to Brock's status as the future/"Hogan."

Exactly. Keep in mind that Cena's finishing move actually started as a rebuke to Lesnar's F5, too.

[Mr. Nerfect]

To be honest, I'm really starting to think that the WWE would be well off running a card at Extreme Rules like this:

* CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho for the WWE Championship
* Sheamus vs. Alberto Del Rio for the World Heavyweight Championship
* Daniel Bryan vs. Brock Lesnar -- if Cena interferes, then John Laurinaitis will suspend him for six weeks
* Kane vs. Randy Orton
* Big Show vs. Cody Rhodes for the Intercontinental Championship
* Dolph Ziggler vs. Jack Swagger with Vickie Guerrero as Special Referee
* Epico & Primo vs. Kofi Kingston & R-Truth vs. Curt Hawkins & Tyler Reks vs. Justin Gabriel & Tyson Kidd in a TLC Match for the WWE Tag Team Championship

In the Lesnar/Bryan match, the two work their magic in front of what is surely going to be a rabid Chicago crowd. Cena interferes anyway and gives Brock Lesnar an FU, which allows Bryan to pick up the biggest win of his career and furthers Brock vs. Cena. Laurinaitis follows through on his promise to suspend Cena, which gives Cena some time to rest up, which I think every big star needs from time-to-time. It also gives them something to promote, as they can set a John Cena return date.

[dingdongyo]

The fact that he came back to the WWE shows that he....

... really likes money.

[Mr. C]

Absolutely no way they're going to job Lesnar out in his very first match, much less to the guy who just lost in less than 20 seconds at WrestleMania.

I'd much rather see Bryan get drafted to RAW and take on Cena at Extreme Rules. Just switch the roles of Lesnar and Cena around in your scenario, and it would be tremendous. Lesnar interferes and gives Cena an F5, which allows Bryan to pick up the biggest win of his career and furthers Lesnar vs. Cena.

That would be the best way to go, with the way RAW went down. As pointed out, Chicago would be pro-Bryan without a doubt and ready to see him make up for his disappointing loss to Sheamus with a huge win over Cena, and they most likely would go mental for a Lesnar run-in. Cena being booed over both Lesnar and Bryan would also play right into his motto of "rise above hate." I'd hold off on Lesnar's first match until the main event of SummerSlam vs. Cena.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That scenario works really well, actually, Mr. C. I'd get behind that.

[Rammsteinmad]

I don't really wanna see Lesnar wrestle until he's spent a bit of time in the gym first.

[Rammsteinmad]

Would me mad funny if Lesnar had a match at Extreme Rules and sucked. Like, everyone just assumes after eight or nine years absense he'll just automatically be as good as he was when he debuted.

[PrettyCool]

Would me mad funny if Lesnar had a match at Extreme Rules and sucked. Like, everyone just assumes after eight or nine years absense he'll just automatically be as good as he was when he debuted.

Yah cuz Brock has been sitting at home drinking beer.

Oh wait, Brock was busy fighting in MMA which takes a LOT of physical working out, more than wrestling cause youre fighting for real. Yeah, I bet Brock needs to get in shape

[Rammsteinmad]

You moron. There's a difference between professional wrestling and MMA. Just because he's good at punching people doesn't automatically mean he's not gonna have ring rust in a pro wrestling ring. And I'm not sure if 'more than wrestling' is really a fair statement. MMA fighters don't have to fight two or three times a week, all year round.

[PrettyCool]

You moron. There's a difference between professional wrestling and MMA. Just because he's good at punching people doesn't automatically mean he's not gonna have ring rust in a pro wrestling ring. And I'm not sure if 'more than wrestling' is really a fair statement. MMA fighters don't have to fight two or three times a week, all year round.

Difference is WWE wrestlers are performing while MMA fighters are fighting for real, it takes a lot more to fight for real because they have to go all out into it, like fighting for there life, as opposed to WWE wrestlers who are just doing a show.

Brock is in great shape, the only problem is if his disease doesnt pop up again.
I am still sure that if he didnt have diverculitis or whatever it was, he would still be UFC champ.

[whiteyford]

Lol good at punching

[Rammsteinmad]

Go all out? Like they're fighting for their lives? Is that why they spend half the fights pacing around and sizing each other up? The difference between the two, is that MMA fighters train, fight, and then get to rest. WWE performers train, perform, and then head to the next city to repeat. It's all about conditioning, and both sports require a great amount of it.

Besides, all that aside, you took my quote way out of context. I'm not debating whether Lesnar is in shape or not, but in 2002 Lesnar was a fucking muscle machine. With MMA being a legit sport, Lesnar has been kept off the gas/juice whatever you wanna call it, hence I don't really wanna see Lesnar wrestling with flabby arms and a huge gut. Would rather him spend some time in the gym first and get a bit more ripped again.

[CSL]

Difference is WWE wrestlers are performing while MMA fighters are fighting for real, it takes a lot more to fight for real because they have to go all out into it, like fighting for there life, as opposed to WWE wrestlers who are just doing a show.

Brock is in great shape, the only problem is if his disease doesnt pop up again.
I am still sure that if he didnt have diverculitis or whatever it was, he would still be UFC champ.

you're talking out of your arse, he'll definitely have "ring rust", he hasn't "worked" a match in about 5 years but I'm sure he'll shed it quick enough "behind closed doors"

[CSL]

and I definitely think people are overestimating how "bad" he apparently looks, watching it again last night in a decent definition as opposed to live streams and Youtube, he's just really pale. Still has plenty of size, still a monster plus now he can take advantage of the wellness policy again if he wants. John Cena will make anybody look inferior aesthetically, Brock's maybe a suntan away from looking "great"

[Rammsteinmad]

Then he needs to go to a tanning studio instead of a gym. Get it sorted! :foc:

[PrettyCool]

Brock can still kick anyones ass on this forum so I dont think it makes sense for ppl to say he looks crappy.

[Rammsteinmad]

Nobody is debating that, but unfortunately in Pro Wrestling the ability to kick someones ass isn't everything.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Just because someone can beat me up doesn't make them look good.

[PrettyCool]

Just because someone can beat me up doesn't make them look good.

It kinda takes away your ability to criticize them imo.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Your opinion is wrong.

[Wake Up Call]

I can't believe you guys are marking out for Brock Lesnar. The guy, although a physical specimen, can't talk for shit on the microphone. The guy is just as, if not more stiff than John Cena. Oh and not too mention, the guy got a huge pop, because it was a "Wrestlemania" crowd on hand for Raw. Pure wrestling fans, the reaction he is going to get when they go to a city that packs the rink full of kids in going to be nominal at best.

Unless they get Heyman by his side, I could care less about this return.

[CSL]

Your opinion is wrong.

[MoFo]

I can't believe you guys are marking out for Brock Lesnar. The guy, although a physical specimen, can't talk for shit on the microphone. The guy is just as, if not more stiff than John Cena. Oh and not too mention, the guy got a huge pop, because it was a "Wrestlemania" crowd on hand for Raw. Pure wrestling fans, the reaction he is going to get when they go to a city that packs the rink full of kids in going to be nominal at best.

Unless they get Heyman by his side, I could care less about this return.



lol

He can obvs talk, he was the biggest heel in MMA cuz of his post fight rant after the Mir fight.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I can't believe you guys are marking out for Brock Lesnar. The guy, although a physical specimen, can't talk for shit on the microphone. The guy is just as, if not more stiff than John Cena. Oh and not too mention, the guy got a huge pop, because it was a "Wrestlemania" crowd on hand for Raw. Pure wrestling fans, the reaction he is going to get when they go to a city that packs the rink full of kids in going to be nominal at best.

Unless they get Heyman by his side, I could care less about this return.

It's not just about you. I'm interested in this even though he's fat and I know he sucked on the mic before. Seems like the "average" fan is as well. So...yeah, this is going to make the WWE some money.

[whiteyford]

Thought he was decent on the mic before he left.

[James Steele]

What the hell are you guys seeing when you say he is fat or out of shape? He is still a freak of nature in terms of his size and athleticism and he is still muscled up than 90% of the human population. The only difference is he isn't gassed up like a fucking 18-wheeler.

http://clubbrocklesnar.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Lesnar_Mir_pre_1.jpg

http://www.wrestlingvalley.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Brock-Lesnar-Bio1.jpg

http://www.fiveknuckles.com/assets/images/fighters/ufc-lesnarx.jpg
http://images.picturesdepot.com/photo/b/brock_lesnar_weigh_in-26792.jpg
http://admin.mmaweekly.com/wp-content/uploads//2010/07/32_BrockLesnarUFC116w.jpg

http://sharelike.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/brock-lesnar-disease-Diverticulitis.jpg

Might also want to consider the fact that Brock is 34 and not 24.

[CSL]

preeeach

[Jordan]

I can't believe you guys are marking out for Brock Lesnar. The guy, although a physical specimen, can't talk for shit on the microphone. The guy is just as, if not more stiff than John Cena. Oh and not too mention, the guy got a huge pop, because it was a "Wrestlemania" crowd on hand for Raw. Pure wrestling fans, the reaction he is going to get when they go to a city that packs the rink full of kids in going to be nominal at best.

Unless they get Heyman by his side, I could care less about this return.

Shut up

[weather vane]

If he gets a real dark tan he will look 500 times more defined and a lot better. It shouldn't be that hard.

[CSL]

preeeeeeeach

[Cool King]

I wonder if they'll put shirts out for him given he was wearing a new very pro-wrestling looking Deathclutch shirt (his brand) on RAW

http://www.wweshop.com/images/products/W04102X.jpg

[CSL]

literally was just coming in here to post that it was on there. I'm guessing the retail version comes without the sponsor stuff on the back

[Swiss Ultimate]

James, I think the issue isn't that he's not still in good shape, but that compared to what he looked like during his last match he looks fat. I'm not saying he looks bad compared to my physique or anything (totally getting fat myself) it's just that the difference was striking.

I think there is a reason we have not seen him without his shirt on just yet...(aside from the fact that it might have been weird).

[DaVe]

lol I don't think you need to mention details of your own physique for us to believe Brock Lesnar's 'doesn't look bad' compared to yours.

Give him a month and he'll look the same as 2 years ago. He won't ever again look like his first run, though.

And yeah, he was wearing a top because he'd look ridiculous returning to confront John Cena in any other situation.

[Juan]

Maybe we should wait until he takes his shirt off before we decide if he's "fat"

[Damian Rey]

Even sans his monster physiqye, Lesnar still looked imposing enough standing next Cena. Its not like hes tiny or anything. Just not as massive. And I dont care how big or baggy your shirt is, if youre fat, your shirt will hang off of your stomach. Not the case for Brock.

[Gertner]

Naw he's a lard ass. I remember when I said Matt Hardy was fat and people gave me shit. Yet again, I was correct.

[Damian Rey]

Heat machine Gertie strikes again! Ill wait till hes topless to judge, but I personally dont think Brock is a "lard ass". Matt Hardy was undefensible. I cant imagine whered I would begin to mount a counter argument.

[Shadrick]

Man he got a huge pop, it was like when HHH returned in MSG

Awesome moment, must of watched it 5000 times on Youtube just for when his music hits

Whoa there.

[Rammsteinmad]

I watched it twice.

[Shadrick]

I watched it thrice.

However, comparing it to HHH in MSG? Blasphemy.

[Gertner]

I watched it zero, because I'm indy and counter-everything

[Joe Kerr]

So nobody remembers how bad he was when he left and his horrible match against Goldberg at wrestle mania?

[Damian Rey]

That was one lousy match to his countless, excellent bouts with Angle, Big Show, Undertaker and his lone matches with Eddie Guerrero and the Rock. Lesnar can work, and one match with a notoriously shitty worker doesnt negate everything that preceeded it.

[Joe Kerr]

Remember when the Minnesota Vikings duct taped him to a goal post

[Damian Rey]

No, but I remember him murdering Frank Mir.

[Jordan]

James, I think the issue isn't that he's not still in good shape, but that compared to what he looked like during his last match he looks fat. I'm not saying he looks bad compared to my physique or anything (totally getting fat myself) it's just that the difference was striking.

I think there is a reason we have not seen him without his shirt on just yet...(aside from the fact that it might have been weird).

He's just been on one show man, what do you mean "yet".

[CSL]

So nobody remembers how bad he was when he left and his horrible match against Goldberg at wrestle mania?


this match was worth it alone for Goldberg's press slam/spinebuster on a guy like Lesnar

[CSL]

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stuff like that is why Goldberg was a superstar

[Swiss Ultimate]

He's just been on one show man, what do you mean "yet".

I've seen guys take their shirts off with less provocation.

:naughty:

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

This was at Brock's last weigh-in, three months ago.

http://www.cagedinsider.com/wp-content/images/mma/2011/12/lesnarflex.gif

[Swiss Ultimate]

Exactly. What Jabba said.

[Rammsteinmad]

Random nugget of infomation dawned on me today. Dunno if this was mentioned and isn't really important anyway, but; Brock Lesnar originally debuted the night after Wrestlemania 18, his return? Ten years later, the night after Wrestlemania 28.

Pretty cool, yet useless fact.

[Nicky Fives]

Anyone who thinks Brock is fat should tell him to his face.....and for the stereotypical meathead, I always thought Brock was decent on the mic..... of course, you never need to talk much with Paul Heyman in your corner.....

[Swiss Ultimate]

Random nugget of infomation dawned on me today. Dunno if this was mentioned and isn't really important anyway, but; Brock Lesnar originally debuted the night after Wrestlemania 18, his return? Ten years later, the night after Wrestlemania 28.

Pretty cool, yet useless fact.

Very neat.

Anyone who thinks Brock is fat should tell him to his face.....and for the stereotypical meathead, I always thought Brock was decent on the mic..... of course, you never need to talk much with Paul Heyman in your corner.....

I will totally tell him if you set up the meeting.

[Rock Bottom]

Heyman coming back would make this even more interesting.

When he came out with Lesnar, you knew this guy was the next big thing. He didn't NEED Heyman to get over, but fuck if it didn't do WONDERS for him. After the whole invasion angle, this was also great for Paul Heyman to play the bitter role with Vince, and shit all over "his company" with "his guy" Brock Lesnar. Fuck, he was a brilliant heel.

Now if he came back as a mouthpiece, he could go on and on about the WWE and the "state of the product" and people would fucking eat it up, whether Lesnar were a face or a heel. I'd really like him to come back. He is a genius and belongs in the wrestling business (just not running it).

I'll settle for just Brock though, still epic!

[GD]

I watch it on youtube everyday. Can't wait for tomorrow.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Tomorrow will never come, there is only today.

[Damian Rey]

And hopefully today, we get more Brock beating people up.

[Mr. C]

Brock Lesnar will make the WWE a lot of money. They are fools if they don't bring him back. Absolute fools.

Lesnar vs. Cena is the big match right now, and I still believe that Lesnar should beat Rock en route to that. Extreme Rules would seem ideal, but I don't know if Brock should debut at a gimmick PPV. Over the Limit seems like it would be a good place.

Four months isn’t a long time. I’d bet that he'll want to get in shape, both appearance wise and in the ring.

If he’s only contracted to appear a minimum of two times a month, it could definitely make the buildup to a match at SummerSlam huge between those two. Lesnar vs. Cena at SummerSlam is the right move.

[Rock Bottom]

Brock Lesnar will make the WWE a lot of money. They are fools if they don't bring him back. Absolute fools.

Lesnar vs. Cena is the big match right now, and I still believe that Lesnar should beat Rock en route to that. Extreme Rules would seem ideal, but I don't know if Brock should debut at a gimmick PPV. Over the Limit seems like it would be a good place.

This makes zero sense.

They've already booked Rock over Cena. Lesnar's already beaten Rock. It'd be both redundant and backwards at the same time. People want to see Brock Lesnar eat Cena's head. It isn't the big match. It's the obligatory match. I am still beyond confused at how people consider Cena to be "the man" right now, when they are clearly shitting all over him because it's what the fans want. There isn't anywhere else to go with the guy.

I think people should pull their heads out of their asses and realize just where John Cena is right now.

[Rock Bottom]

Brock vs. The Undertaker is the "big match," imo. Cena is a stepping stone for Lesnar. I really think Cena needs some time off. It would be smart for both him and the WWE.

Originally I wanted Brock to go over The Rock and then lose to Cena. But it doesn't make sense anymore, not with the way they've played this thing out, and not as it becomes more and more clear that Cena is just roadkill at this point.

[Rock Bottom]

I should have probably noted the time of that post. No offense, don't think your head is in your ass. I just think my head is in everyone else's ass but John Cena's.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.mmamania.com/2012/4/10/2938636/brock-lesnar-ufc-wwe-raw-video-john-cena-success-blood-sweat-tears

[Mr. C]

No stipulation is expected to be announced for the Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena match at WWE's Extreme Rules pay-per-view.

They just need to change the name back to Backlash, but after last night's skidaddle, they got to have at least a Cage Match.

[dronepool]

^ I was thinking a last man standing match.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I'm thinking they might do something strange like make it MMA-like rules.

[Big Vic]

Its gonna have to be match where loser doesn't look bad when losing, so it probably wont be a Last Man standing, I quit, Ironman, etc. I am guessing a tables match, First blood, or Cage (someone climbs out). That way the person losing doesn't look too weak.

[St. Jimmy]

MMA is terrible, please talk about it in that shitty sub-forum.

[James Steele]

MMA Rules would be stupid and insulting to the WWE fans and John Cena would look like shit. First Blood is the way to go since Cena can get busted open in a way that makes Brock look like a beast and Cena doesn't look weak (especially if they keep fighting and Cena is a bloody mess trying to whoop Lesnar's ass after the match).

[Damian Rey]

Dont think we will see any intentional blood. A straight wrestling match will do just fine. Brock should and likey will win. My question is will they book him as an equal to Cena or will Brock destroy him in 10 to 12 minutes. Im thinking Lesnar needs to look absolutely unstoppable here.

[James Steele]

Dont think we will see any intentional blood. A straight wrestling match will do just fine. Brock should and likey will win. My question is will they book him as an equal to Cena or will Brock destroy him in 10 to 12 minutes. Im thinking Lesnar needs to look absolutely unstoppable here.
They should have Brock beat the hell out of him for 30 minutes and make it look as real as possible. I mean to the point where even the most jaded fan who hates Cena will feel sorry for Cena and look at Brock with disgust. This is the only way to truly make Brock heel and Cena face. Brock is going to get cheered even if he is with John Laurinitis unless he does something drastic like that to garner legit heat and hatred. Have Cena not show up for a month or two or even til the build to SummerSlam.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I don't want a part-time Brock defeating Taker at Mania.

[Damian Rey]

Excellent idea, James. Brock definately needs to come off as a monster.

And for those suggesting MMA rules or styled match...i distincly recall the not so positive reviews on the board when Angle and Samoa Joe tried. Adding certain elements to the match inspired by MMA will always work in the right context, but an "MMA style" match wont, imo.

[Savio]

This is the only way to truly make Brock heel and Cena face.
They could just make him metrosexual.

[James Steele]

What appeal is there to an "MMA Rules Match"? MMA Rules won't attract MMA fans as much as insult them and it won't help attract wrestling fans because they watch wrestling and not MMA.

[Damian Rey]

Yea I dont get it either. Just Brock beat the shit out if Cena and call it a day.

[Mr. C]

Within two weeks, this feud is way better than Cena and Rock was. They actually have them physically involved instead of making jokes about each other, and everyone was holding them back.

[Tom Guycott]

Heyman coming back would make this even more interesting.


"That's right, I'm a Paul Heyman guy. You know who else was a Paul Heyman guy? Brock Lesnar. And he split. Just like I'm splitting, but the biggest difference between me and Brock is, I'm going to leave with the WWE Championship!"

[Damian Rey]

Within two weeks, this feud is way better than Cena and Rock was. They actually have them physically involved instead of making jokes about each other, and everyone was holding them back.

That has more to do with the fact that Lesnar has WWE and only WWE obligations. Not to mention, hes been booked immediately into a match rather than one year down the lineand he is obviously going to be getting a huge push.

Add in that Lesnar has always been booked as an "action louder than words" type. Laying to the strengths in both Rock (mic work) and Brock's (physicality) strengths

[Mr. C]

A problem with the match is, quite frankly, it probably won't be good. The Chicago crowd will help it because of its hatred for Cena, but the quality isn't going to be where it needs to be for Lesnar's first match back.

Adding a stipulation would hide the limitations that Lesnar has in the ring, as well as give him a forum to show the crowd how dangerous he can be.

[PrettyCool]

A problem with the match is, quite frankly, it probably won't be good. The Chicago crowd will help it because of its hatred for Cena, but the quality isn't going to be where it needs to be for Lesnar's first match back.

Adding a stipulation would hide the limitations that Lesnar has in the ring, as well as give him a forum to show the crowd how dangerous he can be.

Well that's that then, It needs to be a kennel from hell match.

[Damian Rey]

A problem with the match is, quite frankly, it probably won't be good. The Chicago crowd will help it because of its hatred for Cena, but the quality isn't going to be where it needs to be for Lesnar's first match back.

Adding a stipulation would hide the limitations that Lesnar has in the ring, as well as give him a forum to show the crowd how dangerous he can be.

I think its a little early to assume that match wont be good. Cena can deliver, and Im certain Brock isnt just sitting on his ass when Raw is done. The biggest issue for Brock is going to be timing, but this Brock Lesnar we are talking about. A guy who, while barely out of college, already moved and performed like an elite, top notch veteran.

I think its going to be a pretty decent match at worst. Its nit like Lesnar is some green, unknown, unproven rookie.

[Mr. C]

I’ve been running different scenarios through my mind ever since this match was announced on RAW. Brock Lesnar should win.

What could John Cena gain from this? Losing to The Rock and then the former UFC Heavyweight Champion back to back doesn’t mean he’s being buried, because he’s not, so Lesnar should go over, otherwise the audience who don’t know Lesnar will think he’s easy to beat. The thing to do is have Lesnar beat Cena, leading him to question his identity as the greatest in the company.

This crisis would eventually lead to Cena desperately trying to beat anyone he could; in his state, midcarders like Dolph Ziggler would trump him, leading him to go to town on a guy like Kofi Kingston, murdering him in the ring just to get a win, then snapping when the crowd turns on him for it. He doesn’t lose credibility. He just loses…it. It’s booking 101.

Have the match as a Cage Match. Both guys brawl more, and both get close counts. Cena gets some momentum, and just as he goes to FU Lesnar, it gets countered. Lesnar picks him up and hits an F5 for the three-count.

[Damian Rey]

No need to make Brock's first match back a gimmick match. He should just beat Cena and beat the fuck out of him, clean. Cena can lose, but he shiuldnt just spiral downward that quick. Losing streaks dont work. Losing to Brock and having Cena begin to doubt himself is a great direction for him, but he shouldnt be jobbed outright. I do not forsee a heel turn. There has been zero evidence that would lead anyone to believe beyond self created speculations that a heel turn for Cena is anywhere down the line.

[Mr. C]

This is a gimmick match pay-per-view. Personally, I would've waited until SummerSlam for the match.

[Mr. Pierre]

Steele's idea (dunno if it was this thread or another one) was the best. Have Lesnar destroy Cena, don't even make it close or anything close to being a match. Just an ass kicking. Have Cena take time off, come back around July to build a rematch for Summerslam.

[Krimzon7]

You moron. There's a difference between professional wrestling and MMA. Just because he's good at punching people doesn't automatically mean he's not gonna have ring rust in a pro wrestling ring. And I'm not sure if 'more than wrestling' is really a fair statement. MMA fighters don't have to fight two or three times a week, all year round.

He wasn't THAT good at punching people, and he sucks at getting punched

[Swiss Ultimate]

Not that good at punching.

http://c553622.r22.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mirface1.jpg

[Krimzon7]

Not that good at punching.

http://c553622.r22.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mirface1.jpg

Let's be fair here, a jab from big friggin nog put Mir on queer street before the arm snap happened.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Those hands are fucking deadly, good technique or not.

[Krimzon7]

This is true, I cannot argue. I can hate, but I cannot argue.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I read something in the RAW Predictions thread that made me think:

Someone suggested that Brock Lesnar "injure" Cena before Extreme Rules. That way, with a kayfabe injury, Brock killing Cena looks completely brutal, but it also gives Cena an "excuse" to get completely dominated. The only thing I would change is perhaps that it's not Lesnar that hurts Cena.

Right now, the WWE has a massive boner for Dean Ambrose, seemingly. Well, they should. The kid is young, can work and can fucking talk. He has a unique character that he presents so well, too. Triple H himself has reportedly said that he won't call up Dean Ambrose to the main roster until there's a storyline waiting for him.

How about on RAW Cena is cutting a promo about how he's carried this company on his back for seven years while Brock tried his hand at everything else, and now Brock wants to come in and take it all back when it suits him; when all of a sudden, Dean Ambrose hits the ring from the crowd and takes out Cena's knee with a crowbar, or something? As Ambrose is hastily leaving the scene of the crime, he finds a camera and says "Is that the kind of stuff you want, Mick Foley?"

It gives Cena an injury heading into his match with Brock, and it debuts Ambrose in a big way and brings his tensions with Mick Foley onto television.

[whiteyford]

The only problem i have with Noids idea is that you know Cena will a get a match with Ambrose and ruin any momentum he'd gained by that point. Id maybe just have Brock attack Cena before the match starts,as he's making his entrance just come out with a chair and pummel him for 5 mins before the bells rung. They can put over how Cena still wants his match with Lesnar even after the cheap attack but, like Steele suggested, hes just brutalised to the point where the match is stopped.

[Mr. C]

I’m worried Lesnar vs. Cena is being given away early in a similar fashion to how Goldberg vs. Rock was given away at Backlash 2003. Lesnar vs. Cena should’ve been saved for SummerSlam, where it can rake in a lot more buys, let Lesnar get into shape by then.

Maybe this leads to a match between Lesnar and Punk at SummerSlam for the WWE Championship. Lesnar would be the man to end Punk’s reign for Johnny. Also, it would be ten years to that event that Lesnar won his first WWE Championship from Rock at SummerSlam 2002.

[whiteyford]

If the $5million figure being thrown about is accurate then why would they waste the money being spent on a guy whose signed a contract for ONE year by holding off for him 'to get into shape'? He's a proven draw and post wrestlemania buy rates usually need a boost so why not make use of a guy youre blowing a fortune on rather than wasting his few matches on wrestling jobbers.

[#1-norm-fan]

I’m worried Lesnar vs. Cena is being given away early in a similar fashion to how Goldberg vs. Rock was given away at Backlash 2003.

I thought it was given away way too soon as well but then the more I thought about it... How much of a high is WWE coming off of with WrestleMania? For one year, ALL everyone was looking forward to was Rock-Cena. Then it happened and there was this "Well... now what?" feeling.

They have to do SOMETHING at Extreme Rules to soften the fall off after WrestleMania which stood to be way worse of a falloff than typical after Cena-Rock. So in that way, they did need to have a bigger than usual match and Cena-Lesnar was pretty much the best option.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/man-who-saved-heavyweight-division-2066423/

[PrettyCool]

Lesnar is good at punching because his hands are basically lightning fast cinderblocks.
He is however, not very good at boxing, which involves more than punching.

[Jordan]

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q588/411mania1/Brock%20Lesnar/brocklesnargear.png

Brock's new gear

[Swiss Ultimate]

Booo!

[Jordan]

He's here in London.

[Damian Rey]

Man, look at that flabby bastard.

[Mr. C]

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q588/411mania1/Brock%20Lesnar/brocklesnargear.png

Brock's new gear

The boots and gloves don’t match the shorts, and it throws off his whole look.

[GD]

Man, look at that flabby bastard.

http://www.themmanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Brock-Lesnar-UFC-141-weigh-in.jpg

lol @ joerogan

[Krimzon7]

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/man-who-saved-heavyweight-division-2066423/

ALMOST THOUGH TP;dr...but then I did and now...:rofl:

[Krimzon7]

ALMOST THOUGH TP;dr...but then I did and now...:rofl:

If only the old spice guy could narrate this...:rofl:

[Krimzon7]

http://www.themmanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Brock-Lesnar-UFC-141-weigh-in.jpg

lol @ joerogan

Rogan is just damned perfect sometimes.

[BigDaddyCool]

The is something so childish about how brock looks in that picture.

[Sepholio]

If only the old spice guy could narrate this...:rofl:

lmao, that would be solid gold.