Sonnen/Silva II - UFC 148 thread

[Kris P Lettus]

Set for June in Brazil..

Here are some MMA fighters talking about the rematch..

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[whiteyford]

Can't wait to see the reaction Chael gets when he walks out to the cage.

[MoFo]

Holyshit @ the stadium where it is gonna be

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[Kris P Lettus]

NICE

It's like that Abu Dabi shit..

[James Steele]

Jesus Christ, I hope they got enough security for that shit.

[Next Big Thing]

That's what I'm saying. After all the things Sonnen has said about Silva/Brazil and all the trash he will talk in the build up, there's no way those fans won't raise hell 10 feet if Silva loses. It's not just American vs. Brazilian; it's American who has said some borderline racist shit vs. beloved Brazilian fighter and legend of the sport.

Either way, I think this is going to be one of the most memorable events in all of sports, not just MMA.

[Shaved Monkey]

I think it would be awesome if Sonnen had his own Popemobile surrounded by Marines to escort him to and from the Octagon.

[Funky Fly]

Dude, have you ever seen soccer rivalries boil over? We're talking brawls across the stands to the point that fires break out and so many people in one place to brawl that fucking concrete stands start collapsing. This could get ugly.

[Shaved Monkey]

Dude, have you ever seen soccer rivalries boil over? We're talking brawls across the stands to the point that fires break out and so many people in one place to brawl that fucking concrete stands start collapsing. This could get ugly.

That actually reminds me. I wonder if the Brazilian fans will react to Dana White saying last week that soccer requires no skill at all.

[Kris P Lettus]

You see that video of the soccer player reading the open letter to Dana White??

[Kris P Lettus]

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[James Steele]

That actually reminds me. I wonder if the Brazilian fans will react to Dana White saying last week that soccer requires no skill at all.

Really? Dana is such a fucking twat.

[Kris P Lettus]

The quote is in the video..

[James Steele]

That actually reminds me. I wonder if the Brazilian fans will react to Dana White saying last week that soccer requires no skill at all.

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:lol: Awesome. Dana will probably be a little bitch about it like he was with Tito.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

You'd think the guy who runs one of the most badmouthed sports on the planet would know better than to make ignorant statements about other sports.

[James Steele]

He is an arrogant wannabe bitch. What do you expect?

[Kris P Lettus]

LOL

What does he wannabe exactly??

[James Steele]

He thinks he is some badass mother fucker when he is nothing but a failed boxer who got to ride the coattail of his friend all the way to the top of the MMA world. He has done amazing things for UFC and MMA, but he is such an over-the-top arrogant piece of shit that he is holding UFC and MMA from going to the next level of mainstream acceptance. Goodell, Selig, etc. don't act like Dana White does and it would be completely unacceptable for them to because when you are the top authority figure for a major professional sports league, you fucking act like it.

[Crimson]

Cant defend Dana sometimes. He does go out of bounds alot.

[Next Big Thing]

He thinks he is some badass mother fucker when he is nothing but a failed boxer who got to ride the coattail of his friend all the way to the top of the MMA world. He has done amazing things for UFC and MMA, but he is such an over-the-top arrogant piece of shit that he is holding UFC and MMA from going to the next level of mainstream acceptance. Goodell, Selig, etc. don't act like Dana White does and it would be completely unacceptable for them to because when you are the top authority figure for a major professional sports league, you fucking act like it.

When did you get into MMA Steele? Are you becoming a big fan like Jabba did after Lesnar drew him in.

Not gonna lie, I like reading your posts even when I disagree or think you don't know what the hell you're talking about. It's always fun when hardcore, but still intelligent wrestling fans get into MMA because they bring the same enthusiasm they have for wrasslin'. That's assuming you don't find a fighter who becomes your Triple H of MMA of course.

[James Steele]

I started watching during the peak of Liddell/Couture and really got into it with TUF Season 1, but I don't watch it religiously. I enjoy the big fights and Diego Sanchez is still my favorite fighter even though he's been through some shit.

EDIT: I'll be the first to admit that I do not know all the finer points of MMA or study the different fighting styles and techniques, but I know enough to know Dana is a massive twat.

[Kris P Lettus]

uggghhhhh

Sanchez??

Really??

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[James Steele]

I don't do flavors of the month. I loved him on TUF1 and as such I will continue to be a fan.

[James Steele]

Same reason I will always hate Chris Leben, I suppose.

[Kris P Lettus]

See I hated Diego on TUF 1 and loved Leban..

Still do..

[Krimzon7]

I loved MMA during TUF 1. Still do. Not being a cunt, but none of the season 1 guys stuck out to me. Season two however....well we won't get into all of that here :)

[James Steele]

I loved MMA during TUF 1. Still do. Not being a cunt, but none of the season 1 guys stuck out to me. Season two however....well we won't get into all of that here :)

Fighter wise, season two is superior but personality wise I think Season 1 still has the best assortment of fighters you either get behind or hate.

[James Steele]

I don't understand how anyone can like Chris Leben.

[James Steele]

Back on topic, what is the over/under on a riot in Brazil?

[Next Big Thing]

I seriously think the PPV is worth the buy just to hear the reaction Sonnen gets when he is introduced and the crowd chaos that will result if he wins. You know he's going to come out to "America the Beautiful" or something to serve as fuel to the fire too.

[James Steele]

If I had the money, I'd pay whatever amount it took for him to come out to "America, Fuck Yeah!".

[Krimzon7]

Back on topic, what is the over/under on a riot in Brazil?

The over under is set at the opening credits.... I'm going with UNDER. This may be the ppv that starts with the backstage riot.

[Shaved Monkey]

You know he's going to come out to "America the Beautiful" or something to serve as fuel to the fire too.

He should come out to Living In America Apollo Creed style.

Fuck it, throw the costume on too. That would be worth the PPV price alone.

[Kris P Lettus]

He should def wear the Apollo/Rampage American flag trunks..

[Kris P Lettus]

I want this shirt..

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[Kris P Lettus]

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$30?!?!?

[weather vane]

is that expensive?

[Kris P Lettus]

The walkout shirts are always around that price but it's just kinda ridiculous to me.. I'll just wait until after the fight and get it for half price..

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.5thround.com/112037/anderson-silva-vs-chael-sonnen-rematch-date-and-location-in-jeopardy/

Last month, the UFC announced middleweight king Anderson Silva (Pictured) would rematch Chael Sonnen on June 23rd at Engenhão Stadium in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Fast forward less than 30 days and the United Nations have thrown a major monkey wrench into the Octagon’s UFC 147 plans.

The UN has scheduled their conference on Sustainable Development from June 20-22 in Brazil. Although the event’s website did not disclose how many are expected to attend the festivities, the three-day gathering is looking to host thousands of people.

“We’re working on it, it’s still a work in progress. We’re working through it trying to figure this whole thing out,” UFC president Dana White said during Saturday’s ‘UFC on FUEL TV 2′ post-fight press conference. “The problem is, they don’t like the idea of us coming the same time this United Nations convention is going on.

“The other problem is hotel rooms. Most of the hotel rooms are being taken up. And we don’t think, we know that the Anderson Silva-Chael Sonnen fight is one of the biggest sporting events this year, in the world.”

Engenhão holds approximately 47,000 capacity for soccer matches, but the UFC should be able to increase that number significantly by reconfiguring the arena to accommodate their cage. The final tally should threaten the promotion’s all-time attendance record of 55,724, which was set last April at UFC 129 inside Toronto’s Rogers Centre.

“I think it’s a huge sporting event,” White said of the highly-anticipated sequel. “I think people will come to Rio from all over the world. I think we’re going to need hotel rooms. Hopefully, we’ll get this thing done in the next few days – one way or the other.”

After manhandling Silva for nearly five complete rounds at UFC 117, Sonnen was abruptly submitted by “The Spider” with only 110 ticks remaining on the clock. Since the August 2010 defeat, Sonnen has been doing everything within his power to land a rematch – including insulting every Brazilian fighter within earshot.

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[MoFo]

Gayyyyyy

[Kris P Lettus]

It will not be nearly as great if it's not in Brazil..

[James Steele]

Does the UN really book shit that late or did nobody in Brazil fucking look at the schedule of events when UFC came to them?

[Sepholio]

Sonnen is gonna beat that ass....for four and half rounds -_-'

I swear if he brutalizes silva the way he did the first time and still manages to lose...well, I'll.....I'll cry.

[Kris P Lettus]

What will be amazing is if Silva comes out with something to prove and absolutely destroys him ala Forrest Griffin..

:'(

[Funky Fly]

What will be amazing is if Silva comes out with something to prove and absolutely destroys him ala Forrest Griffin..

:'(

More likely it'll be like what he did to Yushin Okami. Did you see how he was leading the offence? Tripped me right out.

[MoFo]

The possibility of a riot greatly interests me, cant be dealing with Anderson winning this....

[Krimzon7]

I think Atlanta would be a great venue for this fight.

[Next Big Thing]

I want the UFC to do a super fight in NOLA at the Superdome on the Saturday before Mardi Gras. The promotional opportunities would be sick and the city would work with the UFC in terms of planning. Especially if you have the fighters on a float with one of the Krewes during the week. That would be epic.

[Krimzon7]

I want the UFC to do a super fight in NOLA at the Superdome on the Saturday before Mardi Gras. The promotional opportunities would be sick and the city would work with the UFC in terms of planning. Especially if you have the fighters on a float with one of the Krewes during the week. That would be epic.

That would be awesome, until every fighter misses weight, and pisses hot with 4 different std's!


I say go for it, all we got here is...gay pride:-\

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm actually surprised they have never done a "big" show down here.. They did the one "fight night" and sold out, but it was only like 5k seats at the Convention Center, and not at the Arena or the Dome..

[MoFo]

Chael Sonnen’s rematch against Anderson Silva, for the UFC middleweight title, may not happen in hostile territory.

"O Globo" reported today that the bout will be moved to Las Vegas, and rumors indicate that the showdown will also be moved to UFC 148 on July 7th.

Anderson Silva’s manager Ed Soares told TATAME on Monday that the bout is already signed for June 23, in Rio de Janeiro, but his Black House partner, Jorge Guimaraes, told TATAME today that the plans could change.

“This situation is already being discussed. There are some speculations. What you heard, I heard too. It seems like there are no hotels to fit everybody with UN’s event, Rio+20”, Guiamares said.

“(Silva vs. Sonnen’s venue and date) will be announced by Dana White in a press conference in Brazil. Nothing is confirmed yet”.

UFC president Dana White, along with Anderson Silva and Chael Sonnen, will host a press conference in Brazil next Tuesday.

The “Spider”, who demanded that the rematch needed to take place in Brazil, will accept to fight in Nevada?

“That you have to ask Anderson. I don’t know,” Jorge said. “First it has to be moved, than we’ll see”



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Next Big Thing]

That would be awesome, until every fighter misses weight, and pisses hot with 4 different std's!


I say go for it, all we got here is...gay pride:-\

Hey now! I got out of NOLA after four years at Tulane STD free baby! Uptown girls are clean and classy. Especially Pi Phis... but I digress. I'm a Georgia boy through and through, but as a city, the fans and scene in Atlanta is too uptight at times and most people are out to be seen, not to have a good time.

In NOLA during Mardi Gras (hell anytime), you can go to the parades or game, get wasted off of daiquiris by the levees, hit up Bourbon Street for some hand grenades and tourist floozies, take said floozies to a dive bar like Ms. Mae's, take her home and send her out in a cab. Add a major UFC event to the mix and the amount of epic goes up. You can't do anything like that in Atlanta because of the city's size, laws and too a lesser extent culture.

[Krimzon7]

Hey now! I got out of NOLA after four years at Tulane STD free baby! Uptown girls are clean and classy. Especially Pi Phis... but I digress. I'm a Georgia boy through and through, but as a city, the fans and scene in Atlanta is too uptight at times and most people are out to be seen, not to have a good time.

In NOLA during Mardi Gras (hell anytime), you can go to the parades or game, get wasted off of daiquiris by the levees, hit up Bourbon Street for some hand grenades and tourist floozies, take said floozies to a dive bar like Ms. Mae's, take her home and send her out in a cab. Add a major UFC event to the mix and the amount of epic goes up. You can't do anything like that in Atlanta because of the city's size, laws and too a lesser extent culture.

YOu're one fingerbang away from a Herpes outbreak in NOLA. :)

Yes, a UFC in NOLA sounds like an epic sandwich with a side of awesome and a holy shit shake to wash everything down with. I'm bummed about UFC 145 now. my tickets which I covet and this weekend has been ruined by the untimely death of a very close childhood friend. I'm heading to south carolina tomorrow afternoon to be with his family and attend the funeral.

[Next Big Thing]

I'm sorry to hear that man. Be well.

[Krimzon7]

I'm sorry to hear that man. Be well.

Thanks bro. I'm def gonna be watching at a bar. I wouldn't miss this fight for anything else.

[Crimson]

http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/4/20/2963936/chael-sonnen-performs-song-for-anderson-silva-mma-news?icid=MMAFighting-iphone-url

Sonnen does Thuganomics on Silva..not the flow that Cena has but he did pretty good

[Kris P Lettus]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1176130-ufc-148-preview-a-night-with-both-versions-of-ufc-star-chael-sonnen

[MoFo]

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Sonnen + Stone Cold = win

[Crimson]

lol Sonnen loves his wrestling

[Krimzon7]

I love Chael Sonnen.

[RP]

If Anderson Silva say's he's going to break Chael's legs and teeth. I believe him.

[Sepholio]

Sonnen is gonna whoop that ass, RP. Right after he comes back from the dentist and rides into the ring in a wheelchair.

[Jura]

I hope Silva goes all matrix on him like he did against Forrest.

[Sepholio]

On a serious note, I honestly think Sonnen might win this fight. I see a third fight between the two in the cards, regardless. Still wish it would have been able to happen in Brazil, though.

[Next Big Thing]

I'm sad because the atmosphere would have been sick in Brazil, but I think it's for the best that the fight isn't happening in Brazil. For the sake of safety and security.

[Jamstar]

sonnen is going to receive an ass kicking. Can't wait .

[Krimzon7]

not so fast my friend. I've got the sneaking suspicion that Anderson has not worked on his wrestling, and is still succeptable to being taken down. If he can't stop the Sonnen Double leg, then he is going to have to go all matrix off his back, again.

[Next Big Thing]

I think Sonnen's TRT gives him a bigger advantage than his wrestling. I'm sorry but if you give a guy synthetic testosterone that he can inject at his discretion and cycle on and off of before the period of random testing starts, that's a pretty big advantage.

As far as the Sonnen Double Leg, I think Anderson's injured rib also impacted his ability to sprawl and fight that off.

[Jura]

Watch "Anderson Silva Like Water" and it documents his life and training before, during and after the Sonnen fight and he did hurt his ribs it seems.

[Sepholio]

I still want one of those Sonner shirts that is mocking Uncle Sam. Gotta find a picture of it again.

[Jura]

It's on sale. Chael-Sonnen-%22I-Want-You-Anderson-Silva (https://www.mmawarehouse.com/Punch-Buddies-Chael-Sonnen-%22I-Want-You-Anderson-Silva%22-Shirt/pbd-1006,default,pd.html?start=1&cgid=chael-sonnen-shirts)

[Crimson]

Im pumped for this fight. Truly hope it delivers..unlike stupid ass boxing. Silva has actually talked trash now for the first time. He might go in there motivated as hell..bad news for Sonnen I thinkbut im hoping for an upset

[MoFo]

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[RP]

Anderson Silva is going to murder this guy

[Innovator]

UFC is probably praying for a Sonnen upset, if this was WWE Dana would turn on Saturday.

[RP]

I think Silva will destroy this guy, but if Sonnen some how wins, I'll be the biggest Sonnen fan.

[Wehttam]

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[owenbrown]

Sonnen is gonna be back on Dan LeBatard is Highly Questionable on ESPN2 tomorrow at 3:30 eastern

[Heisenberg]

Im pumped for this fight. Truly hope it delivers..unlike stupid ass boxing. Silva has actually talked trash now for the first time. He might go in there motivated as hell..bad news for Sonnen I thinkbut im hoping for an upset

It's hyped to the max! This fuckin bout will not go the distance, someone is getting their shit kicked in.

[Sepholio]

I'm gonna laugh if Sonnen beats on him again only to get choked out in the last round. Would be epically hilarious.

[RP]

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Rofl this guy.

[Krimzon7]

These guys are twins, AND THEY HAD TO SHARE A MERCEDES!

Vince needs to hire this guys writers.

[MoFo]

omfg this is like 8hrs away

[Next Big Thing]

So ready for this fight.

Sonnen loses points in creativity now that I know dude trained at the WCW Power Plant and wanted to become a pro wrestler. I always thought he was a fighter with pro wrestling level mic skills. Now I know he's just a pro wrestler with a wicked double leg. Always a sad day when heroes are exposed.

[James Steele]

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[Krimzon7]

I"ll be honest. I've got a goddam chubby right now waiting on this fight.

Chael may have gone to the power plant, but that charisma, and heel ability is purely chael. I would imagine that the instruction he received was 'we'll get out of your way with the microphone, but you need to learn how to take a bump.

[Jura]

Wannabe pro wrestler.

[RP]

Just ordered it. Firing up the grill. Summer Shandy, Sunset Wheat and Dos Equis in ice.

[Nark Order]

In Tahoe and no bar is showing this. Kind of pissed. Man.

[RP]

That's fucking stupid.

[Ermaximus]

Hit me with a stream somebody.

[MoFo]

Not very good thus far.

Chad Mendes w/ KO otn sewn up.

[RP]

Cung lee

[MoFo]

Guy is legit considering he's old as fuck.

[Beauser]

Stream anyone?

[Savio]

"Punishing him into retirement" - Tito Ortiz (2006)

"Punishing him into retirement" - Forrest Griffin (2012)

[Savio]

Will forrest submit to strikes again?

[MoFo]

Tito got jobbed by judges again.

[CSL]

lol Forrest just Hogan'd Tito's retirement

[RP]

Forrest is weird.

[Savio]

I had tito winning

[owenbrown]

Sonnen getting some major heel heat

[CSL]

surely that's an illegal knee

[CSL]

or not, couldn't have placed it more perfectly

[owenbrown]

Thanks for coming, Chael Sonnen

[James Steele]

How can anybody like Anderson Silva? The guy who is talking about the great sport of MMA and the UFC and all that bullshit is the same mother fucker who made a mockery of the sport and his opponents a couple of years ago? Wish Chael had better balance, but they will do a 3rd one if Chael bounces back. This shit is easy money.

[James Steele]

Thanks for coming, Chael Sonnen

Thanks for coming and providing nothing of value, Owen Brown.

[Savio]

Silva tried to grease too apparantly.

[MoFo]

Worst stoppage ever.

[James Steele]

No doubt, Silva is the best fighter in the world but all that vanilla good guy bullshit was nauseatingly fake. Dana must have got him in check after all that BS a while back. Fuck, why couldn't Chael not fall on his ass TWICE?!?!

Interesting to see where Chael goes from here.

[James Steele]

Worst stoppage ever.

As in "shouldn't have stopped it" worst stoppage ever? The ref clearly waited to call it as he sort of jerked toward the guys but stopped and waited a bit longer for Chael to do something.

[owenbrown]

Thanks for coming and providing nothing of value, Owen Brown.

Anytime, James Steele :D

[MoFo]

Silva missed nearly everything in that finish, if that was a legit stoppage then the first fight should of been stopped like 20 times when Sonnen was landing 10 hit combos flush.

[James Steele]

The post-fight stuff after Griffin/Ortiz was awkward at best. What the fuck was all that about? Was he trying to give Ortiz the spotlight or what? I thought Ortiz was going to say "Fuck you." and punch him in the face when Griffin started interviewing him.

[James Steele]

Silva missed nearly everything in that finish, if that was a legit stoppage then the first fight should of been stopped like 20 times when Sonnen was landing 10 hit combos flush.

Chael wasn't doing anything to defend himself while leaning on the cage getting his face punched in. I think this Silva "good guy" run will end pretty quickly if the massive pre and post-fight blowjobs continue. I'd rather Silva be a patronizing prick than a fake fuckhead spouting off about the purity of MMA and that the C in UFC stands for Class.

[Stickman]

Somebody give me the fight vid! Need to see this

[What Would Kevin Do?]

The knee was clean, but Silva holding Sonnen's shorts as he tried to back away so Silva could punch him was a bit shady.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Silva ceased his opportunity and destroyed Chael with that knee. Did a great job defending those two takedowns after getting taken down easily in the first round. He got warned about the shorts and let go, if you ain't cheatin you ain't trying. He dodged the spinning backfis I believe after hurting him, forcing Sonnen to be overly agressive and really just made him look stupid.

Sonnen's still a beast.

[Mr. C]

I had tito winning

I had the 1st and 3rd rounds scored for Ortiz. There's absolutely no way Griffin won that fight. What exactly did the judges see to prove otherwise?

[owenbrown]

can't wait until LeBatard's TV show on Monday :lol:

[AJ]

Silva missed nearly everything in that finish, if that was a legit stoppage then the first fight should of been stopped like 20 times when Sonnen was landing 10 hit combos flush.

Watching the replay, when you combine the fact that Sonnen was rocked already from the (legal) knee, got up again, and was knocked to the ground again, in totality, it wasn't going to take much for there to be a stoppage afterward. IMO, I didn't think Sonnen was going much to intelligently defend himself, and a lot of those latter hits were connecting pretty well. Still, even if the stoppage may have been slightly early, looking at Sonnen during that (last) encounter did not give me any reason to believe that 5-10 extra seconds would have changed anything.

[AJ]

The knee was clean, but Silva holding Sonnen's shorts as he tried to back away so Silva could punch him was a bit shady.

There's no denying that the short's grab was illegal in the pure sense...but I didn't feel like it affected much. If there's a pause in action, he's getting a warning about it any maybe a point deduction. It didn't affect much of the actual action occurring in the Octagon. In fact, as soon as it was detected by the official, Silva had let go, and Sonnen was able to connect with a stiff left to the head of Silva.

Then again, I felt the same way when people wanted to complain about Jose Aldo v. Chad Mendez and Aldo's one ring grab.

[RP]

Sonnnen can stfu now.

[Next Big Thing]

How can anybody like Anderson Silva? The guy who is talking about the great sport of MMA and the UFC and all that bullshit is the same mother fucker who made a mockery of the sport and his opponents a couple of years ago?

He had one bad fight against Maia and that was more of a personal thing between him and Damian. In 15 fights, he's finished 13 of them. You can't hold one strange night over his head.

[Next Big Thing]

Think Chael's pretty much done with Silva now. If the fight would have gone to a decision or ended questionably, I'd probably say we'd see Sonnen/Silva III, but Sonnen's been legitimately beaten both times now. He physically tapped then got TKO'ed. He can't bounce back from that.

Silva's got three fights left in my opinion. Two of those will be from the Bisping/Munoz/Lombard/Rashad Evans (if he moves down) group. The final one would have to be a super fight against GSP or Jones.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

I really have no interest in Silva against anyone left at middleweight.

[FourFifty]

Saw the ppv. First ufc ppv I've ever seen. I was upset at the lack of chair shots, and the fact that no one jumped into the cage. Also, a tables match would be cool. #WWEonUFC
But seriously, that last knee that silva threw looked pretty brutal. A few people I've talked to said it was a cheap shot.

[Wehttam]

then those few people don't know much

[Sepholio]

While this time around Silva was def handling Sonnen a hell of a lot better, I do feel the stoppage was a bit early. This fight needed to go on.

I still think they will fight one more time.

[Funky Fly]

Saw the ppv. First ufc ppv I've ever seen. I was upset at the lack of chair shots, and the fact that no one jumped into the cage. Also, a tables match would be cool. #WWEonUFC
But seriously, that last knee that silva threw looked pretty brutal. A few people I've talked to said it was a cheap shot.

Knees to head on the ground are illegal. That knee was not to the head. Whatever's legal in a fight isn't cheap.

[Next Big Thing]

Feel like we're about to hit a dead point now. I don't really care about the Faber fight, although I'm sure it will be a decent scrap and Aldo vs. Koch seems like it will be another squash match for Aldo. Tbh, I don't care about the 145, 135 or 125ers at all.

Won't get good again till August when Henderson fights Edgar on the 11th and Rousey fights Kaufman on the 18th.

[Crimson]

I'm also interested in Bones/Hendo. Bones will win but Hendo is a tough one.
But yea no real big eye openers. Chael is a warrior still even in a loss. Hope he continues going

[Jura]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[abec]

While this time around Silva was def handling Sonnen a hell of a lot better, I do feel the stoppage was a bit early. This fight needed to go on.
Even Chael said he got destroyed. Apparently you've never been kneed in the chest, Rashad did it to Tito a few months ago and Tito basically tapped soon afterwards. The stoppage was not early, Chael was just covering and not doing anything which is basically tapping in the sport while saving dignity. I don't even know why I'm replying, it gets frustrating reading or hearing some of the things people say that need to put some more thought into it. All these illegal knee and early stoppage people sound like the morons that came in when Ken vs Tito was 'stopped too early'. I'm all for MMA reaching a wider audience, but I wish I could skip ahead 20 years when more people understand what the fuck is going on.

And to say that you dont want to see Anderson fight any more middleweights, you have no idea what would happen if it he fought some of the others. I am interested in seeing Alan Belcher vs Anderson, I'd like to see Rich get another chance if he can beat 2 more top competitions in the division before his career is over, and obviously Hector Lombard.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

I really don't think any of the remaining middleweights have anything for Anderson, but that doesn't mean they have zero chance of winning.

They aren't very compelling matchups, especially after all the hype surrounding this last fight.

[RP]

Seems like the most logical fight would be Silva vs the loser of Hendo/Jones

[RP]

Even Chael said he got destroyed. Apparently you've never been kneed in the chest, Rashad did it to Tito a few months ago and Tito basically tapped soon afterwards. The stoppage was not early, Chael was just covering and not doing anything which is basically tapping in the sport while saving dignity. I don't even know why I'm replying, it gets frustrating reading or hearing some of the things people say that need to put some more thought into it. All these illegal knee and early stoppage people sound like the morons that came in when Ken vs Tito was 'stopped too early'. I'm all for MMA reaching a wider audience, but I wish I could skip ahead 20 years when more people understand what the fuck is going on.

And to say that you dont want to see Anderson fight any more middleweights, you have no idea what would happen if it he fought some of the others. I am interested in seeing Alan Belcher vs Anderson, I'd like to see Rich get another chance if he can beat 2 more top competitions in the division before his career is over, and obviously Hector Lombard.

I don't need a third Rich Franklin fight to affirm what I already know, which is, that he don't belong on the ring with Anderson Silva.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

I don't think Rich's nose needs that fight.

[RP]

Its cruel and unusual punishment to force Silva's knee to repeatedly hit Franklins face.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah, Andy may need reconstructive surgery on his knee if he fights Rich again :(. And Ace could do without another rhynoplasty (s/p).

[RP]

Franklin still has bloody boogers fall out from time to time, from those two fights.

[abec]

the only reason i'd like to see rich get another chance is because it would be a great build up to see him defeat top competition. I always like the underdog, and I agree he would wouldn't defeat Anderson but it would be a great send off.

[Big Vic]

Anderson Silva should take the "Ryback" Gimmick and fight 2 jobbers at once.

[Krimzon7]

I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT HECTOR LOMBARD. Throw his ass in there with some nobody and let him try his luck with anderson.

[CSL]

he's fighting Tim Boetsch in a few weeks, replaced Bisping

[MoFo]

Would also like to see Belcher/Anderson.

[Inadequacy]

Franklin still has bloody boogers fall out from time to time, from those two fights.

Every time Anderson thinks of him Rich Franklin gets a nose bleed.

[RP]

I don't think Rich even wants to see himself get another shot at Silva.

[abec]

I don't think Rich even wants to see himself get another shot at Silva.

Go watch at about 1 minute 25 seconds in.

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[Kris P Lettus]

During the post show Dana went off about Forrest's antics..

Silva should vacant the 185 title and let them do a 4 man tourney starting with Munoz/Wieman and then say Belcher/Bisping.. Then let the next shot go to Brian Stann if he can beat Lombard or whoever they line him up against when he comes back from shoulder surgery..

I just really hope we get to see Silva vs Jones at 205 before Jones moves to HW..

p.s. I also heard that GSP will be fighting at 185, vacating the 170 title) when he returns (Mike Straka reported this) so the Silva/GSPsuper fight still has merit..

[abec]

GSP said he'd have to take 1-2 years off to put on muscle mass to fight at middleweight. He has no plans of doing so, there is a ton of competition right now in WW for him as well as a shit load of money to be made. Condit, Hendrix, Rory if he beats BJ, and Diaz fight is going to make a shitload when he comes back in 8 months.

Superfights are not likely to happen again for a while. Andersons sponsored by some BIG companies now, Soraes wouldn't risk that to appease a few fans unless it was Andersons last fight.

edit:

It wouldn't be crazy for a superfight to be a catch weight at 178, Anderson has fought at near 170 before.

[Crimson]

Soraes wouldn't risk that to appease a few fans unless it was Andersons last fight.

A few fans? or a few million? Im sure Dana if he really wanted to could make it a hefty payday for Silva in a superfight at the right time. The hell what Soares thinks

[RP]

Go watch at about 1 minute 25 seconds in.

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He said he wants a shot at the title. Not Silva. He probably believes by the time he gets back to the top, Silva will either have lost, retired or moved to another weight class.

[Next Big Thing]

I don't think a Superfight is going to happen anytime soon. GSP has got some fresh and intriguing competition at Welterweight against the likes of Condit, Hendricks and Diaz. He did a $12 million gate against Shields in Toronto. The record for combat sports is 18 million by De La Hoya and Mayweather. Sorry, but an MMA fight between Silva and GSP won't top that in gate or PPV buys. Dana can make more money off GSP fighting those three guys in Toronto than he would off of GSP vacating the title and losing at 185 and returning to 170 a defeated man.

Same deal with Silva. He might not be the best drawing champion, but he's more appealing than any of the potential champions at Middleweight. Plus, Brazil is a huge, emerging market for them. Dana doesn't want to send Silva up to 205 to either lose or knock off Jon Jones who's good for 800,000 PPV buys as champion himself.

[Big Vic]

Silva should vacant the 185 title No he shouldn't

I just really hope we get to see Silva vs Jones at 205 before Jones moves to HW.. Jones is not going to HW

p.s. I also heard that GSP will be fighting at 185, vacating the 170 title) Not gonna happen
All of those ideas would be terrible.

[abec]

He said he wants a shot at the title. Not Silva. He probably believes by the time he gets back to the top, Silva will either have lost, retired or moved to another weight class.

Not in this particular interview, but it was the one I knew would be easiest to find. He wants to fight Silva or whoever the champion is and he feels if he strings 2 more wins together against top competition that he should get the shot. I think he will, too.


A few fans? or a few million? Im sure Dana if he really wanted to could make it a hefty payday for Silva in a superfight at the right time. The hell what Soares thinks
Soares makes the decisions for Anderson, they'll turn it down. Dana is only a promoter, he can not force them to take fights. And it is a few fans, its not millions. Most of the friends I have when we talk about MMA have no care or concern to see someone thats clearly smaller go up against a larger opponent. Jon Jones is huge and lanky, its not 10 years ago in pride where you could beat larger fighters based on skill. Now that you have top tier competition in weight classes, people moving around is less and less likely. Its not like boxing where there is a weight class every 3 pounds. Jon Jones would just have to much genetics on his side.

Also Silva has stated in many interviews he has no interest in fighting Jones.

I do believe though, that if the payday is big enough we'll see it, but it would have to be 10 million +

[Crimson]

So your friends account for the entire fanbase, k cool. You remember Silva moving up to fight at 205 right? I'm not saying it's going to happen but if the circumstances and everything lined up perfectly ,i'm saying it would.

And yea Silva and Bones have both said they wouldn't fight each other. That's probably the biggest hurdle than anything else if it we were at that point.

[RP]

Jon Jones vs Anderson Silva is the perfect fight. Silva was big and fast against Griffin. That matchup has to happen. It makes so much sense.

[Kris P Lettus]

GSP said he'd have to take 1-2 years off to put on muscle mass to fight at middleweight. He has no plans of doing so

He has been out 15 monthes as of right now and still has 2-3 monthes left before hew returns..

Also, he walks around closer to 200lbs naturally..

[Kris P Lettus]

Jon Jones vs Anderson Silva is the perfect fight. Silva was big and fast against Griffin. That matchup has to happen. It makes so much sense.

:y:

[NLO85]

"To be dead honest, it's that we both have a lot to lose and we both respect each other a lot and we both are striving for personal greatness. I don't want to crack on his greatness and I don't want him cracking on my greatness.

This is Jon Jones on why he doesn't want to fight Silva... I'm not entirely sure how this differs to Mayweather/Pacquiao?yet Silva/Jones get a pass

[James Steele]

...they aren't in the same weight class?

[Next Big Thing]

GSP said he'd have to take 1-2 years off to put on muscle mass to fight at middleweight.

He said 6 months, not 1-2 years.

[Big Vic]

...they aren't in the same weight class?
Exactly

[NLO85]

Exactly
I understand that + Mayweather has a history of ducking opponents and waiting until they're past their prime... But Silva has fought at Light Heavyweight before & can comfortably fight at that weight. I just wish fighters would look to cement their legacy by beating the best rather than not taking fights thru fear of tarnishing it with a loss...

[Next Big Thing]

You sound like an ignorant fanboy. Silva came into the UFC at 185 and that has been the weight he has fought most of his career at. Stop talking about what he can comfortably fight at based on two appearances at 205 or what he walks around at. Middle weight is his comfortable weight based on his history. It would be different if Silva consistently bounced back and forth and suddenly decided he was only going to fight at Middleweight, but he hasn't.

Second, how can you talk about Mayweather's history of ducking opponents until they're over the hill? You clearly don't know shit about boxing and are only spewing the talking points you hear from the ESPN talking heads. Arturo Gatti was the favorite over Mayweather. Pacquiao is supposed to be his rival for the pound for pound best, but he beat De La Hoya, Hatton and Mosley AFTER Mayweather fought and beat them. Floyd destroyed Marquez after a year layoff, Pacquiao has yet to decisively beat Marquez in three fights.

[Crimson]

That fight will never happen but we can pretty much chalk up the win to Mayweather