View Full Version : Do you ever feel bad for wrestlers who try and get the crowd going and fail?
Gertner
05-03-2012, 10:48 AM
Snitsky used to try all the time and yell "come on" when he was a face, before his big boot and get NOTHING.
The Usos always try that "when I say U, you say SOS" and pretty much get nothing.
#BROKEN Hasney
05-03-2012, 10:50 AM
I feel really bad for The Usos. Not only do they get no reaction, the production team can't even be bothered piping some in for their pre-recorded show.
Gertner
05-03-2012, 10:53 AM
Yeah, I was cringing during the Usos vs O'Neill/Young match on Smackdown.
Skippord
05-03-2012, 10:54 AM
was it because of O'Neill and Young's awful finishing move?
Gertner
05-03-2012, 10:55 AM
was it because of O'Neill and Young's awful finishing move?
lol they pretty much had me until the end. Christ, they almost killed Tatsu last week.
Skippord
05-03-2012, 10:56 AM
The Flying Hairpull
Cuse8
05-03-2012, 01:15 PM
i havent seen the dynamic duo of oneill/young yet..whats their finisher?
Triple Naitch
05-03-2012, 01:19 PM
Feel bad for the Usos, Ricky Ortiz, and DH Smith.
i havent seen the dynamic duo of oneill/young yet..whats their finisher?
Last week it was a very, very, very, very bad attempt at a Doomsday Device.
Michael McGuillicutty, nXt season 2 finale.
Yeah, Nick Dinsmore as OVW Heavyweight Champion would take the time to slap the hand of every ringside fan who held out his/her hand, and yet the crowd was absolutely silent for his offense and gave a smattering of claps during Dinsmore's "comeback" transitions. He was WAY more over as Eugene.
...And every Johnny Greenpeace match ever! Not even his Charlie Brown Christmas tree could generate heat. :-\
Cuse8
05-03-2012, 01:51 PM
Last week it was a very, very, very, very bad attempt at a Doomsday Device.
outstanding
Heisenberg
05-03-2012, 02:14 PM
It's half the battle trying to get over. Sometimes you have to be put in the right place at the right time.
Shisen Kopf
05-03-2012, 02:31 PM
I felt bad for the Goon, Abe Knuckleballer Schwartz and Big Bully Busick. All woulda been legends except for the idiot fans not cheering.
drave
05-03-2012, 07:33 PM
Let's not forget the amazing Bastian Booger xD
dronepool
05-03-2012, 08:24 PM
Not really, I usually just think "heh, they're bored" and don't have much after-thought about it.
Gertner
05-03-2012, 08:44 PM
Although on the other hand, they do make quite a good living
Swiss Ultimate
05-03-2012, 08:47 PM
Yeah, I was cringing during the Usos vs O'Neill/Young match on Smackdown.
Do the Usos even have any personality? They seem pretty bland. Generic Ethnic Tag Team or something...never heard a promo or seen too many of their matches.
what the fuck did you say about Jimmy Uso
Gertner
05-03-2012, 08:49 PM
Do the Usos even have any personality? They seem pretty bland. Generic Ethnic Tag Team or something...never heard a promo or seen too many of their matches.
That's the thing, they are a pretty decent tag team. They try their best, but man do they ever get silence.
Do the Usos even have any personality? They seem pretty bland. Generic Ethnic Tag Team or something...never heard a promo or seen too many of their matches.
That is because Jey Uso has been carrying Jimmy all throughout. He would be gold as a singles wrestler.
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Keith
05-03-2012, 09:03 PM
Do the Usos even have any personality? They seem pretty bland. Generic Ethnic Tag Team or something...never heard a promo or seen too many of their matches.
The Uso's have great talent and ability, they're just victims of the fact that WWE hasn't really paid attention to tag team wrestling for the last couple of years.
Swiss Ultimate
05-03-2012, 09:21 PM
Hmmm...sounds like WWE Creative needs to give them a comedy gimmick to get them over. Make them lovable stooges for Johnny Ace and have them where suits.
DONE.
Lock Jaw
05-03-2012, 09:23 PM
Yeah, I felt bad for Daniel Bryan until recently.
to answer the original post, 'lol no'
Keith
05-03-2012, 09:35 PM
In terms of the original post, I sometimes kinda cringe when Alberto Del Rio comes out and doesn't get the heat you'd think he'd get with the comments he makes. Maybe it's the delivery.
JOHNNY USO
LOL yes please!
Emperor Smeat
05-03-2012, 10:55 PM
Depends more on the wrestler since majority of the time its either due to the writers not giving a reason why the crowd should care or the wrestler himself/herself isn't improving enough to fix the situation.
Reks first big push failed with the crowd mainly because the writers started to randomly add him into matches he didn't belong so the crowd responded by not caring. On the other side the entire Nexus except for Wade Barrett was pretty bad with promos which is why only Barrett benefited the most in the end after the group split apart.
Tom Guycott
05-04-2012, 02:39 AM
The Uso's have great talent and ability, they're just victims of the fact that WWE hasn't really paid attention to tag team wrestling for the last couple of years.
This. I don't agree that they get "no reaction". They get a reaction, they even get the audience participation.
You guys say "no reaction" because the whole damn arena doesn't blow the roof off like Steve Austin came in and made a surprise appearance.
Make people care about the Usos, and that would get more over. They had a golden opportunity the first few times they started using the Haka*, and instead decided to throw together the random team of Sydal and Kingston to ignite the tag division. Even now, random team of Kingston/Truth are champs. The Uso's continually job. Who wants to cheer for losers? They lose all the fucking time. How is audience participation going to get any bigger when they're going to go down to the ring and lose to the next thrown together tag team? Seems simple psychology to me. And the kicker is, they use it elsewhere... example, we're supposed to care that Skippy is now a jobber murdering machine. He gets fed locals who get to cut a 30 second promo, at least 2 superstars stand by a monitor in the back to watch the impending squach match. And he wins. Imagine if they did all that production to make you pay attention that his match is next, and he kept losing? Who would care after weeks of that? Same diff. People want to care about the Usos, but they got no merch and they always lose (on important shows - Superstars and NXT do not count). This will derail any momentum they build for themselves.
On topic: no, I don't feel bad for them. They're trying. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but other times it "could" work if the machine would get behind them.
*Yes, I know it isn't the Haka. Deal with it, you know what I meant. !3MTA3
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-04-2012, 02:55 AM
They should get Vic Venom as their manager and call themselves the R-ussos.
Shisen Kopf
05-04-2012, 05:55 AM
Lord Tensai gets no reaction at all other than Albert chants. They seriously need to drop the Jap Albert gimmick. Yokozuna worked bc at least he looked like a Jap.
Tom Guycott
05-04-2012, 06:48 AM
Lord Tensai gets no reaction at all other than Albert chants. They seriously need to drop the Jap Albert gimmick. Yokozuna worked bc at least he looked like a Jap.
Honestly, they could have done something bigger with the whole Yoshi Tatsu being offended by Albert's gimmick instead of a single mention of Yoshi's twitter and a subsequent squash match.
Snitsky used to try all the time and yell "come on" when he was a face, before his big boot and get NOTHING.
It wasn't his fault.
bigslimjj
05-04-2012, 08:34 AM
I laugh at their failures. Hua hua hua hahaha!!!!!! But seriously the only time I notice them trying to get a reaction is when they are getting no reaction. It's called playing to the crowd. But when they try that, and still no one cares...it's time to start talking about the town their wrestling in. Cause nothin gets more heat then talking shit bout the locals.
XCaliber
05-04-2012, 11:01 AM
Can't help but laugh when Percy Watson's theme hits asking if he can "get some" he gets absolutely no reaction not even any piped in cheers.
whiteyford
05-04-2012, 12:28 PM
Do the Usos even have any personality? ...never heard a promo.
Thats the problem for alot of them,no promo time.
Heyman
05-04-2012, 02:00 PM
The only guy I really feel a bit bad for, in terms of winning the crowd over, is John Cena.
He's so under-appreciated it's not even funny. He's the hardest working guy that the company has, and is the exact type of guy (in terms of integrity, character, etc.) that one should build around. He's the ultimate team guy.
As the WWE moved into PG territory, Cena was forced to town down his personna and be directed more towards kids.
It just sucks that most male adults absolutely despise the guy as a result.
DAMN iNATOR
05-04-2012, 03:59 PM
As far as the original question, No. Not at all. It's their JOB to involve the fans on a deep level, and if they can't do so, it's their own damn fault.
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-05-2012, 01:17 AM
The only guy I really feel a bit bad for, in terms of winning the crowd over, is John Cena.
He's so under-appreciated it's not even funny. He's the hardest working guy that the company has, and is the exact type of guy (in terms of integrity, character, etc.) that one should build around. He's the ultimate team guy.
As the WWE moved into PG territory, Cena was forced to town down his personna and be directed more towards kids.
It just sucks that most male adults absolutely despise the guy as a result.
WWE turned PG BECAUSE of Cena's affinity for kids. WWE would have never turned PG if it wasn't for John Cena's appeal to children. That's why adults hate him. He's responsible for WWE PG.
Lock Jaw
05-05-2012, 01:25 AM
That is ridiculous. They would have turned PG regardless.
Gertner
05-05-2012, 08:30 AM
WWE turned PG because it's former audience has moved on to MMA and targeting kids is a better move financially.
Shisen Kopf
05-05-2012, 08:33 AM
targeting kids is a better move
Superslim??
Damndirty
05-05-2012, 10:44 PM
WWE turned PG BECAUSE of Cena's affinity for kids. WWE would have never turned PG if it wasn't for John Cena's appeal to children. That's why adults hate him. He's responsible for WWE PG.
Plus, he's overrated as far as being the hardest worker. I don't fucking buy it! Punk is always wrestling every Raw, Cena just has some small segment, maybe a lil street brawl, and very rarely an actual match anymore. Don't know why people keep going on about how hard he works. Wish I could make a bigger living coming out to run my mouth on the mic more than anything else and be fucking popular for it while the rest of the guys are killin themselves to try and get a single pop and usually don't get it.
Damian Rey
05-06-2012, 12:53 AM
When they say hard working, theyre not just talking about what he does on tv. Theyre talking about all the PR he does for the company, the charities, the Make a Wish stouuff, etc. Cena spreads himself as much as humanely possible. Hard to argue he doesnt work harder than anyone else.
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-06-2012, 12:58 AM
He's a good person but a shitty wrestler.
Damndirty
05-07-2012, 11:15 PM
When they say hard working, theyre not just talking about what he does on tv. Theyre talking about all the PR he does for the company, the charities, the Make a Wish stouuff, etc. Cena spreads himself as much as humanely possible. Hard to argue he doesnt work harder than anyone else.
Yeah, but all he has to do for charities and such like that is sit around, sign autographs, and take pictures with people, not wrestle. He may be getting frustrated, but fuck, an office job can make ya frustrated too, and when he's doing that, he's not getting any physical injuries. Plus, he's never EVER EVER on Smackdown, while Dolph Ziggler, Brodus, and Big Show are doing both shows and also do charity work, but not getting the same pat on the back. Not very hard to argue at all.
I'm sure if you do your research you will find Cena on numerous Smackdowns in the last year.
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-08-2012, 07:19 AM
Yeah and he's on like every episode of NXT on Raw replays.
Rammsteinmad
05-08-2012, 08:30 AM
Cena does work house shows too.
Wehttam
05-08-2012, 11:16 AM
he also sets up and takes down the ring and titan-tron
DAMN iNATOR
05-08-2012, 11:44 AM
WWE turned PG BECAUSE of Cena's affinity for kids. WWE would have never turned PG if it wasn't for John Cena's appeal to children. That's why adults hate him. He's responsible for WWE PG.
Yeah, having other kid-friendly superstars like Rey Mysterio didn't help at all...:roll:
Kapoutman
05-08-2012, 12:02 PM
That's like four threads in a row, on different forums, where Damninator is being condescending or aggressive toward other posters. What the hell is happening?
DAMN iNATOR
05-08-2012, 01:10 PM
Condescending? Surely you jest.
Kapoutman
05-08-2012, 01:16 PM
Patronizing? Snappy? Catty? I'm not sure.
DAMN iNATOR
05-08-2012, 02:08 PM
I dunno. Maybe I am wound a little tighter than usual. That's what being awake nonstop since 6am yesterday gets me...:-\
Damian Rey
05-08-2012, 06:40 PM
Yeah, but all he has to do for charities and such like that is sit around, sign autographs, and take pictures with people, not wrestle. He may be getting frustrated, but fuck, an office job can make ya frustrated too, and when he's doing that, he's not getting any physical injuries. Plus, he's never EVER EVER on Smackdown, while Dolph Ziggler, Brodus, and Big Show are doing both shows and also do charity work, but not getting the same pat on the back. Not very hard to argue at all.
Nope. No work at all getting up early after traveling overnight to a nearby city to do charity work and be enthusiastic for it, getting a workout it, getting to the arena for every houseshow you're advertised on, bumping your ass off every night, making every damn near every Raw, and working a lot of those nights in the ring. Yep. Not hard at all.
Anybody Thrilla
05-09-2012, 04:16 PM
Are we really arguing whether Cena is a hard worker or not right now?
Damndirty
05-11-2012, 08:24 PM
Nope. No work at all getting up early after traveling overnight to a nearby city to do charity work and be enthusiastic for it, getting a workout it, getting to the arena for every houseshow you're advertised on, bumping your ass off every night, making every damn near every Raw, and working a lot of those nights in the ring. Yep. Not hard at all.
I never said it was easy, but more than half the staff works harder than he does, and attend more shows than he does, yet they don't get the same attention. And you are incorrect, he does not bump his ass every night, I hate repeating myself when I say he is NEVER EVER on Smackdown.
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