Fall From Grace: The Miz

[GD]

Ever since his last pay-per-view main event participation at TLC, The Miz is slowly and steadily stepping out of the spotlight, not necessarily on his own.

The dirt sheets report that the management is blaming him for the low buy rates of Survivor Series. It has also been noticed that The Miz has not been himself for a while. He is botching his lines and losing on a very regular basis.

But on the other hand, The Miz kept his undefeated streak iat Wrestlemania alive when he pinned Zack Ryder in the 12-man tag team match. He also went on to defeat his former protege Alex Riley in a very decent match on Superstars.

The dirt sheets are also reporting that The Miz is going to star in third installment of The Marine. Which does not necessarily mean that he will get a big ass push and win all the Heavyweight straps that are there to offer.

Nonetheless, the negatives are more in number when compared to the positives. It seems like things are not going to change for The Miz (for a while). And for some reason that makes me sad.

Feel free to discuss about The Miz's "fall from grace".

[Innovator]

Pretty much after Maryse was on camera saying, "your loss Vince," Miz has been going down. Then he got blamed for the Survivor Series buyrate (not WWE's fault at all for not giving a reason why Cena and Rock were teaming, or building Miz and Truth as worthy opponents). Then he almost killed Truth.

[PrettyCool]

The Miz should become a more violent character and go on a violent spree, injuring and busting people open!

[Shadrick]

Change his name to "The Miz: Badass Submission Machine" and instead of "Yes" say "REALLY. REALLY. REALLY????"

[Rammsteinmad]

Yeah, felt really sad when he came out on Raw, because I'd honestly forgotten about him.

To think, last year him and R-Truth were running rampant for a little while and really had the WWE 'fired up' and on guard for a time. The guy has proven to be a hard worker, in the ring, on the mic and when it comes to promotional stuff. I really hope WWE don't drop the ball with him, especially considering all the stuff he had to endure for being the reality TV guy. The guy went from being resented in the lockeroom, to headlining Wrestlemania, and legitimately deserving it. Guy's a fighter, and definitely someone the WWE would be silly to let him fizzle out into nothing.

[Lock Jaw]

Dude needs to go to Smackdown, because he has been pretty much "run into the ground" on RAW.

Sad thing is, I thought he was due for some sort of push after getting the win for Team Johnny.

Really thought he would be next in line for CM Punk to take on. Kind of reestablish him as a main event player.

Instead he is losing to Santino and Brodus Clay. Floundering.

[GD]

Pretty much after Maryse was on camera saying, "your loss Vince," Miz has been going down. Then he got blamed for the Survivor Series buyrate (not WWE's fault at all for not giving a reason why Cena and Rock were teaming, or building Miz and Truth as worthy opponents). Then he almost killed Truth.

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Saw this for the first time. Makes sense by WWE logic.

[Ultra Mantis]

Miz got Swaggered, right down to jobbing to Santino & Brodus. I do prefer the original lower midcard World Champion though to be honest, never really been on the Miz bandwagon.

[Tornado]

The Rock's in ring return, at MSG draws a shitty buy rate?

Yeah let's blame The Miz.


I really enjoy The Miz's character and performances and hate to see someone who could be a major player in a rut like this. The guy busted his ass late 2011 flying all over the world to promote local tours, deserves better.

[Keith]

The thing about Miz is that, to me, his character and the character Jericho played before he left last time (the serious, "you all are hypocrites" gimmick) are way too similar. When you see Miz come out for a promo and act all serious, all calculated, in a suit, he's too much like that Jericho we saw. His in-ring gear is even similar to Y2J's.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The Miz should take the "REALLY?" thing to the next level. Just walk around being absolutely appalled at some of the things happening in WWE and actively voicing his disgust. Random attacks during Santino matches, attacking Brodus Clay during his entrance, etc. He showed a BIT of that in his Brodus Clay promo last night, but he could make it so much more.

[James Steele]

I think WWE just finally realized he wasn't that fucking good and he couldn't maintain his overness once his "run" was over.

[Keith]

I don't really think he's had this bad streak because of Maryse. I don't think WWE would do that to a guy who's that good in the ring and (perhaps more importantly) on the mic.

We do know Triple H is more "in control" now, so maybe he just sees something in Miz he doesn't like.

[GD]

I think WWE just finally realized he wasn't that fucking good and he couldn't maintain his overness once his "run" was over.

I hear Triple H is a huge supporter of The Miz :shifty:

[Keith]

Where do you "hear" this? Who tells you?

[PrettyCool]

I still cant believe WWE got rid of he hottest diva in their history.

[Keith]

I remember reading somewhere that Triple H cut a promo on the Miz backstage in front of some talent for something I can't even remmeber.

[MIZantine Empire]

I don't really think he's had this bad streak because of Maryse. I don't think WWE would do that to a guy who's that good in the ring and (perhaps more importantly) on the mic.

We do know Triple H is more "in control" now, so maybe he just sees something in Miz he doesn't like.
they did it to morrison..granted he was a huge ass hat on the mic, but thanks to melina he was basically run into the ground

[Keith]

Well yeah, but he was never WWE Champion, he never main evented WrestleMania, etc. But who knows? All we do is speculate.

[Innovator]

I remember reading somewhere that Triple H cut a promo on the Miz backstage in front of some talent for something I can't even remmeber.

I think it was for the Truth incident.

[Emperor Smeat]

I think part of it might be related to the concussion he got during last year's Mania because for a long while after that he seemed very reluctant to be involved in any high flying moves such as his last botch with R-Truth.

Probably also related to how last year the WWE kept rushing or changing their plans for the first couple of months after Mania and it impacted him the most. Del Rio had his reigns rushed, Cena had quick reigns since the WWE wasn't sure if they wanted him to hold the belt till the next Mania, and the rise of Punk meant a lot less main event time for the Miz.

[loopydate]

I still cant believe WWE got rid of he hottest diva in their history.

Me either!

To be fair, though, Sunny had a LOT of problems...

[PrettyCool]

Me either!

To be fair, though, Sunny had a LOT of problems...

I meant Maryse, Sunny looks homely compared to Maryse's PERFECTION.

[Innovator]

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[Keith]

We forget, but Miz's WWE Championship run wasn't exactly historic. I mean, even had a feud with Jerry Lawler. And then Rock came back to feud with Cena, and Miz kinda fell to the background.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Truth is a tough dude for that.

[Keith]

It's a miracle he wasn't hurt. He fell flat on his back from like 10 feet. He's lucky (and so is Miz).

[Anybody Thrilla]

We forget, but Miz's WWE Championship run wasn't exactly historic. I mean, even had a feud with Jerry Lawler. And then Rock came back to feud with Cena, and Miz kinda fell to the background.

But we ALSO forget that The Miz had one of the sweetest entrance videos in Wrestlemania history, which is more important in the long run. :shifty:

[whiteyford]

Think he's just lost in the shuffle and/or being given the stop start treatment. Getting moved across to Smackdown wouldn't hurt,although that doesn't mean as much as it used to with the 'supershows'.

[Anybody Thrilla]

It's not going to bode well for The Miz when Wade Barrett comes back, either.

[whiteyford]

There's always OCW:shifty:

[Swiss Ultimate]

As much as I love The Miz he's not going to be a "dominant" champion, heel or face. He's a guy who is willing to bend the rules and is characterized by his intelligence and his drive to succeed.

He's like a Sgt. Slaughter/Bobby Heenan type. He's never going to have a Triple H/Hogan run with the title. I still love him.

[Lock Jaw]

As much as I love The Miz he's not going to be a "dominant" champion, heel or face.

But that is exactly how you booked him in DWW! :shifty:

[Swiss Ultimate]

He feuded with Rey Mysterio and Rhino.

Edit: Key word I'm looking for is "fantasy". He'd have been a great champ in 90s ECW, way better than Justin Credible.

[Kane Knight]

The Miz should be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine.

Miz got Swaggered

What, they realised he didn't have any talent?

Ah, shit, that's unfair to Swagger.

[GD]

Last year, during the tournament finale (after MITB) on RAW, I was so convinced that The Miz was going to defeat Rey Rey and win the belt. Huge disappointment.

[Nicky Fives]

Little kids hate him and grown men don;t buy him as a legitimate threat (thinking that they could kick his ass)..... that's his problem..... he needs to get bigger or change his attitude (mean streak/viciousness).....

[VSG]

It has also been noticed that The Miz has not been himself for a while. He is botching his lines and losing on a very regular basis.

Yes, totally Miz not being himself.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Didn't grown men think they could beat up Shawn Michaels? And didn't they actually do that at one point in a bar?

[GD]

Yes, totally Miz not being himself.

Miz's win record was quite impressive when he had his push. Hence your argument is invalid.

[Kane Knight]

Didn't grown men think they could beat up Shawn Michaels? And didn't they actually do that at one point in a bar?

Bullshit. If the Undertaker could barely keep Michaels down, what chance do a bunch of guys in a bar?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Good point. I withdraw my argument.

[Ultra Mantis]

What, they realised he didn't have any talent?

Ah, shit, that's unfair to Swagger.

Sometimes you just have to give a guy a world title reign before you can decide if he's got any talent. Next in line for an evaluation is JTG.

[Savio]

Didn't grown men think they could beat up Shawn Michaels? And didn't they actually do that at one point in a bar?
In Syracuse :cool:

[Droford]

Daniel Bryan and the Miz..YES REALLY!

oh wait.

[Heisenberg]

He's been on one hell of a ride if you weed out all the burying as of late.

[Tom Guycott]

I don't really think he's had this bad streak because of Maryse. I don't think WWE would do that to a guy who's that good in the ring and (perhaps more importantly) on the mic.

We do know Triple H is more "in control" now, so maybe he just sees something in Miz he doesn't like.

they did it to morrison..granted he was a huge ass hat on the mic, but thanks to melina he was basically run into the ground

Also, McIntyre. And (arguably) Matt Hardy.

Seems to be a trend. There has to be some adage in place about the risks of fucking someone on the Divas roster, since chances are if it ends badly OR if SHE does something "embarassing", YOUR career is going to take a downward spiral.

[Jura]

He's got Maryse, The Miz is doing alright.

[Juan]

Remember The Miz? While the former WWE champion has been lost in the shuffle in recent months, his spot on the WWE roster is safe and there is virtually no risk of him being released any time soon.

(Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter)

[Kane Knight]

Sometimes you just have to give a guy a world title reign before you can decide if he's got any talent. Next in line for an evaluation is JTG.


Still need that Scotty 2 Hotty run.

[Shisen Kopf]

See this is the kinda shit that makes me think the dub dub E is a tad retarded. They push a fucking fat oaf like Albert with a gimmick that no-one gives a shit about, yet bury the Miz who is pretty entertaining.

[Shisen Kopf]

Actually the Miz should take a page from Jap Albert's gimmick. Miz goes over to Englandand "trains" & learns the "English" style of rassin and debuts as Lord Snooty.

[Sepholio]

He's just lost in the shuffle right now and the way they seem to be burying him recently is just going to be used as the excuse for why he disappears to film The Marine 3. He'll be back and get another push at some point.

Also, Truth is the damn man for taking that bump. You can tell it's serious when you see Miz clearly checking on him around the time Dolph starts struttin in the ring.

[St. Jimmy]

Miz sucks, who cares, move on. /thread

[MIZantine Empire]

We forget, but Miz's WWE Championship run wasn't exactly historic. I mean, even had a feud with Jerry Lawler. And then Rock came back to feud with Cena, and Miz kinda fell to the background.
i wouldnt say that..it wasnt in the top runs of all times, but it was a 6 month or so run, were he did go over cena in the last match at wrestlemania..

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Miz is fairly solid. Objectively, I can admit that he's a guy you really want up to the top of your card -- he's great at promotional work, is a great talker, solid worker and all that jazz. Subjectively, I don't really care about him as much as I once did. That being said, I think he's just in one of those slumps that heels get into when they're no longer the top heel. Even Chris Jericho has been on those before.

I was sort of hoping that on RAW, instead of losing to Brodus clean, a frustrated Miz would kick him in the nuts, or something, getting disqualified and leading to a future match between the two at Over the Limit. The Miz just needs a proper program. John Laurinaitis could at least give Miz a choice of partner to go against Kofi Kingston & R-Truth, or something of the like.

[Jura]

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[Swiss Ultimate]

Miz sucks, who cares, move on. /thread

He's better than Steen in the ring and better than every single person in ROH on the mic.

The Miz is fairly solid. Objectively, I can admit that he's a guy you really want up to the top of your card -- he's great at promotional work, is a great talker, solid worker and all that jazz. Subjectively, I don't really care about him as much as I once did. That being said, I think he's just in one of those slumps that heels get into when they're no longer the top heel. Even Chris Jericho has been on those before.

I was sort of hoping that on RAW, instead of losing to Brodus clean, a frustrated Miz would kick him in the nuts, or something, getting disqualified and leading to a future match between the two at Over the Limit. The Miz just needs a proper program. John Laurinaitis could at least give Miz a choice of partner to go against Kofi Kingston & R-Truth, or something of the like.

This.

[Innovator]

I think his character needs some tweaking.

[PrettyCool]

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Thats it. The Miz is the MOST SUCCESFULL MAN IN THE WORLD.

PERIOD.

[Fignuts]

I don't understand. St. Jimmy posted "/thread", and yet people are still able to post.

It's vexing.

Could it be, that it wasn't the end of the thread? Why that would be preposterous!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Jimmy can be disappointing from time to time. Oh well, so can Miz, so I guess they both have that in common. They both however, do possess great value when in their element :).

[Jura]

Element = Maryse.

[Fignuts]

What is st. jimmy's element? Surrounded by his fellow fat virgin nerd ROH bots?

[Double D]

Also, McIntyre. And (arguably) Matt Hardy.

Seems to be a trend. There has to be some adage in place about the risks of fucking someone on the Divas roster, since chances are if it ends badly OR if SHE does something "embarassing", YOUR career is going to take a downward spiral.

Or you go the CM Punk route and fuck all of the divas and get the title. After all, he is the Best in the World ;)

[Savio]

It worked well for HHH aswell

[Kane Knight]

I don't understand. St. Jimmy posted "/thread", and yet people are still able to post.

It's vexing.

Could it be, that it wasn't the end of the thread? Why that would be preposterous!

I'm not sure we need you taking internet jargon literally. You're taking Noid's job.

[Curd]

I'm not sure we need you taking internet jargon literally. You're taking Noid's job.

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[Tommy Gunn]

I was thinking about Dolph Ziggler the other week and how his push feels like it's back on hold, and the same can be applied to The Miz.

My theory is, both men fill the same heel spot, but the WWE are saving that spot for a returning Wade Barrett, who's supposedly been tipped as the next MITB winner.

Not enough heel pushes to go around.

[Big Vic]

word they need to bring back WWECW

[Immortal Moose]

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[Big Vic]

Also, McIntyre. And (arguably) Matt Hardy.

Seems to be a trend. There has to be some adage in place about the risks of fucking someone on the Divas roster, since chances are if it ends badly OR if SHE does something "embarassing", YOUR career is going to take a downward spiral.
I wonder who Kanes been humping for the past 12 years

[Shadrick]

Punk fucked just about all of the Divas tho.

[TSI]

Why not trying him as a face? He can do his "Really" routine on the heels and move him to smackdown. Shake things up a bit.

[Theo Dious]

Thats it. The Miz is the MOST SUCCESFULL MAN IN THE WORLD.

PERIOD.

He's no different than the thousands of other men who have fucked inflatable rubber dolls.

[Mr. Nerfect]

A while back I thought that the WWE should have put The Miz & Johnny Curtis together as an alliance of sorts. Now, I would totally get behind that idea, since Curtis has evolved into the greatest man in history. Have Curtis point out to John Laurinaitis that he never got his tag team title shot and The Miz is one of Ace's favourites -- tag team against Kofi Kingston & R-Truth sorted.

[Ultra Mantis]

Fuck The Miz, Johnny Curtis is man enough to be tag team champions by himself.

[PrettyCool]

He's no different than the thousands of other men who have fucked inflatable rubber dolls.

:roll:

The main object of a mans life is to procreate with the best looking woman he could find. Maryse is one of (if not the best) looking woman on the planet today. Procreating with her would mean you fill your objective in life better than everyone else.

An inflatable doll does not lead to procreation and sex.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fuck The Miz, Johnny Curtis is man enough to be tag team champions by himself.

I agree. I don't know why I over-complicated booking by adding The Miz in there. I think part of me is probably trying to use Curtis to get The Miz over again.

[whiteyford]

Would love to see the Miz with a stable, even something like what Edge had with Hawkins/Ryder, couple guys he can be associated with storyline wise even if hes not teaming up with week in week out, just act as a mentor/manager to give them a rub.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Miz needs to join up with Johnny Ace now that Brock has forsaken him.