View Full Version : Breaking News: Chris Jericho suspended from WWE indefinitely (now 30 days)
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-25-2012, 03:03 AM
WWE announced Friday that Chris Jericho has been suspended indefinitely due to an irresponsible act at a WWE live event in São Paulo, Brazil on May 24.
Chris Jericho suspended
Chris Jericho as been suspended indefinitely due to an irresponsible act of denigrating the Brazilian flag at a WWE live event in São Paulo on May 24. WWE has apologized to the citizens and the government of Brazil for this incident.
Credit: http://rajah.com/base/node/27555.
Holy shit.
Apparently CM Punk was holding a fan's flag. Jericho took it from him threw it to the ground and stomped on it. Jericho had to be rushed out of the country and was nearly arrested.
Vastardikai
05-25-2012, 03:11 AM
amazing... just in time for his tour with Fozzy...
:shifty:
Mr. Nerfect
05-25-2012, 03:15 AM
Jericho's posted a response which sounds sincere and like this isn't part of an angle. He basically says that he made a bad judgement call while trying to entertain people and apologises for it.
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-25-2012, 03:16 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Just for the record I love Brazil and wish we could've spent more time here. Beautiful country!</p>— Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/205893974072901632" data-datetime="2012-05-25T05:32:03+00:00">May 25, 2012</a></blockquote>
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St. Jimmy
05-25-2012, 03:19 AM
lol, perfect. ALSO CALLED IT.
Mr. JL
05-25-2012, 03:24 AM
JERICHO is AWESOME
Nowhere Man
05-25-2012, 03:27 AM
On the plus side, if he's suspended, it means he won't have to job to Randy Orton.
I don't buy it, but I guess it could be similar to why Finlay was fired.
dronepool
05-25-2012, 04:48 AM
Sounds odd.
Fignuts
05-25-2012, 04:54 AM
It's not really that odd. Obviously, stomping on a flag in any country is offensive, but some far more than others.
I could have told you it was a horrible idea. Most South American countries are extremely patriotic. Jericho is an intelligent, worldly guy, and should of known better.
Cool King
05-25-2012, 04:56 AM
That is what Heel Jericho does at House Shows though. The face waves the flag of whatever country they're in and Jericho takes it and crumples it up and kicks it and steps on it.
It's against the law to desecrate the Brazilian flag and you can face some jail time for doing so, and apparently, the police rushed in the ring and told Jericho to apologise to the crowd or face jail, so Jericho grabbed the mic and apologised.
Also, the WWE said that they didn't plan it but you have to remember, the WWE and it's superstars do have a history of not checking up on a countries laws before doing something, with the most recent being R-Truth breaking the Smoking Ban in Britain last year.
Autobahn
05-25-2012, 05:03 AM
Shawn Michaels stuck the canadian flag up his nose, dropped it down his pants, and fellated it on PPV.
Chris Jericho stomps on a flag. Indefinitely suspended.
Bit of double standards, but HBK got away with a lot back in the day.
Fignuts
05-25-2012, 05:03 AM
That's what he does, but as you said, you don't fucking do that in Brazil. One should know better than to do something like that in foreign lands without at least even googling what kind of consequence there would be.
Fignuts
05-25-2012, 05:07 AM
Shawn Michaels stuck the canadian flag up his nose, dropped it down his pants, and fellated it on PPV.
Chris Jericho stomps on a flag. Indefinitely suspended.
Bit of double standards, but HBK got away with a lot back in the day.
It's not that WWE let him get away with it, it's that doing that shit here or in Canada isn't as much of a grievous offense.
Not so much a double standard as it is a cultural difference.
Also, am I the only one who when read that he was suspended for an "indecent act" thought that he may have exposed his cock or something?
Autobahn
05-25-2012, 05:17 AM
It's not that WWE let him get away with it, it's that doing that shit here or in Canada isn't as much of a grievous offense.
Not so much a double standard as it is a cultural difference.
Also, am I the only one who when read that he was suspended for an "indecent act" thought that he may have exposed his cock or something?
Fair call, and yes, I thought he had gotten drunk again with Helms and did something stupid.
Swiss Ultimate
05-25-2012, 06:25 AM
How many months until the next "Mysterious video"?
Wow! This is ridiculously depressing.
Shawn Michaels stuck the canadian flag up his nose, dropped it down his pants, and fellated it on PPV.
Chris Jericho stomps on a flag. Indefinitely suspended.
Bit of double standards, but HBK got away with a lot back in the day.
I guess it is different everywhere. If Kurt Angle were to disrespect the Indian flag in India, the crowd would have stormed in and beat the shit out of him. It has been only 64 years since Independence and we hold the flag in high regards.
The fact that this lines up so well with his planned time off is a little suspicious. If they did this on purpose for the heat (and this is old school heat, plain and simple) they risked Jericho being arrested and held for who knows how long. Calculated risk to make the angle real?
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-25-2012, 06:42 AM
But right when he started a potentially big feud with Orton?
Keith
05-25-2012, 06:42 AM
Jericho has even gotten physical with fans outside of an arena, and not even then was he suspended. So I'm not sure if this is legit. His Fozzy tour is coming up, and maybe this is the way they'll write him off tv for the time being, who knows?
But again, it's been said that WWE is going to great lengths in order to keep storylines under wraps, to the point of "punking" the talent itself, so I really don't know.
We'll find out, I guess.
If this a work, then it is one of the best ever.
Rammsteinmad
05-25-2012, 06:52 AM
Now, I'm all for respecting different cultures and races etc, but I hate that there are countries out there who feel so passionately for their countries flag. I dunno, to me, a flag is just a flag. Nothing more, nothing less. If the heel of an entertainment show is disrespecting your nations flag, it's pretty obviously a way to get the crowd against him.
Just one of those "I don't like it, but I'll have to go along with it" kinda things.
Keith
05-25-2012, 06:56 AM
If this is legit it kinda surprises me that Brazil, the "carnival capital of the world", home of "the brazilian wax", would put people in jail for stomping on the flag. I thought they'd be a little bit more "open minded", if you will.
Now, I'm all for respecting different cultures and races etc, but I hate that there are countries out there who feel so passionately for their countries flag. I dunno, to me, a flag is just a flag. Nothing more, nothing less. If the heel of an entertainment show is disrespecting your nations flag, it's pretty obviously a way to get the crowd against him.
Just one of those "I don't like it, but I'll have to go along with it" kinda things.
It is a cultural thing. It is not necessary for everyone to think alike.
K.Smoke
05-25-2012, 07:01 AM
The wonderful thing about indefinite suspension is that it can end at anytime. I don't think the suspension will last long due to the fact that he was just staying in character. Brazilian police acted correctly. The suspension though disappointing was the right thing to do to appease the country. I'm more interested on weather or not they'll work some kind of angel using this or just try to let it blow over.
Nicky Fives
05-25-2012, 07:56 AM
It's not really that odd. Obviously, stomping on a flag in any country is offensive, but some far more than others.
I could have told you it was a horrible idea. Most South American countries are extremely patriotic. Jericho is an intelligent, worldly guy, and should of known better.
This is true, but they should be smart enough to realize that Jericho is a paid performer whose goal is to piss them off..... I'm sure Chris Irvine the person loves Brazil.....
Keith
05-25-2012, 08:01 AM
Haha TMZ picked up this story now. I guess it is legit.
http://i.imgur.com/XPRMZ.png
A WWE event in Brazil came to a screeching halt Thursday evening ... when local law enforcement stopped a live match and threatened to arrest Chris Jericho for desecrating the Brazilian flag.
It all went down during a match between Jericho and C.M. Punk -- who was proudly waving the flag in the ring. Jericho took the flag away, crumpled it up and kicked the flag out of the ring ... and that's when police stepped in and put a stop to the event.
We're told Jericho was informed that desecrating the national flag is a crime in Brazil ... punishable by incarceration.
Cops gave Jericho an option -- apologize to the arena ... or go to jail. Chris chose the former ... grabbing the mic and telling the crowd he immediately regretted his actions. Cops allowed the event to continue.
Sources connected to the WWE tell TMZ ... the flag stunt was NOT planned or approved by WWE officials.
The WWE has just released an official statement saying, "Chris Jericho has been suspended indefinitely due to an irresponsible act of denigrating the Brazilian flag at a WWE event in Sao Paulo on May 24. The WWE has apologized to the citizens and the government of Brazil for this incident."
That pic sends a very wrong message.
Shisen Kopf
05-25-2012, 08:47 AM
Wow, that's stupid that he is suspended. It's not like he did that to the American flag! And if he did freedom of speech and shit. This is why USA is better than all the countries in the world combined. Freedom.
Kalyx triaD
05-25-2012, 08:54 AM
Why would the WWE suspend him when the government let him slide? I hate how kiss-ass the company is. Love the troops, now love other countries - even when the country let the event go on after Y2J did the right thing.
And slightly off topic; stomping the flag is illegal over there? They should move from patriotic nonsense to solving those kidnapping sprees. Fuck Brazil. Blanka ain't shit.
tjmidnight420
05-25-2012, 08:58 AM
That pic sends a very wrong message.
Definitely. I'm gonna have to go with this is a work to cover his tour. WWE have really been high on the realism lately. Probably the only thing that wasn't planned was the cops getting involved, or the cops were local indy wrestlers as always. Brazil has indy wrestling right?
Swish
05-25-2012, 09:10 AM
Suspense/ fozzy tour?. It is a work. The timing is right.
Who else would he leave wwe?
Sepholio
05-25-2012, 09:22 AM
Why start a feud with Orton though if the plan was to write him off TV? I dunno, this seems like another work to me.
Also, the fact that cops stormed the ring during a match screams bullshit. You would think they would wait until after the match since all the citizens paid for it and what not. Some things here are not adding up.
This also comes within a few days of Jericho doing that video interview saying people were reading too much into the videos/storyline of his return and the rumors about him leaving the company. A video in which he didn't outright deny he was leaving, but seemed to indicate that he was staying with WWE for now.
tjmidnight420
05-25-2012, 09:26 AM
seemed to indicate that he was staying with WWE for
now.
Technically he is still with WWE... just not at the moment. He's touring, he'll be back. I'm interested to see what they plan to do next time, because he's allegedly going to be in and out until at least Summerslam. He's also quoted as saying he had to sign a much longer deal than he wanted.
946 years according to him.
Nicky Fives
05-25-2012, 10:42 AM
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<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RikjeeDaMxI?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
He even apologized.....
Wishbone
05-25-2012, 10:49 AM
Wow if this isn't a work, which it seems it isn't, then it was a horrible call by Jericho. Hope this doesn't get blown too far out of proportion though. I mean Jericho should have known better, but the fans didn't seem that upset about it.
Big Vic
05-25-2012, 10:53 AM
Brazil has indy wrestling right?No, only Jiu Jitsu.
tjmidnight420
05-25-2012, 10:54 AM
The videos have been pulled by WWE. This will air on RAW. Definitely a work.
lol @ the idea of this being a work, some of you have spent too much time on the internet
Kane Knight
05-25-2012, 11:04 AM
Shawn Michaels stuck the canadian flag up his nose, dropped it down his pants, and fellated it on PPV.
Chris Jericho stomps on a flag. Indefinitely suspended.
Bit of double standards, but HBK got away with a lot back in the day.
It's not double standards if the business has changed (it has) or the locale is taken into account (it has to be) or this is an intentional on-air debacle (duh)
How many months until the next "Mysterious video"?
Oh shit. Does that mean when it does air, we're going to be subjected to six more months of Noid/SammyG whining "why didn't Jericho show up tonight! We were promised Jericho (Even though we weren't and it was all assumed and we totally hyped ourselves up, we will blame WWE for lying to us!!!)!"
parkmania
05-25-2012, 11:13 AM
Shawn Michaels stuck the canadian flag up his nose, dropped it down his pants, and fellated it on PPV.
Chris Jericho stomps on a flag. Indefinitely suspended.
Bit of double standards, but HBK got away with a lot back in the day.
Don't forget about JBL goose-stepping in Germany shortly before his gimmick change and multiple title runs.
Shisen Kopf
05-25-2012, 11:13 AM
I guess it is different everywhere. If Kurt Angle were to disrespect the Indian flag in India, the crowd would have stormed in and beat the shit out of him. It has been only 64 years since Independence and we hold the flag in high regards.
India was so much better under British rule. Bring back the Raj!
Jordan
05-25-2012, 12:33 PM
Yeah this is no work, there is no upside to the angle, why work it? Jericho messed up and got told so by the police and then had to apologize before he got locked up in a Brazilian prison, where believe me, they love the back door adventures.
As far as him being suspended, it could work out in his favor as far as Fozzy but I doubt this is a planned incident and WWE has suspended him to leave a good taste in the mouths of whomever will decide to let WWE back into Brazil arena's in the future.
Just a difference of culture that's all.
Maluco
05-25-2012, 12:44 PM
I live in Brazil and it didn´t even enter my head that this was a work....it is completely beliavable, and what Fignuts said is dead on, Brazil is a South American country that is fiercely patriotic....so much so that ANY sport which has a Brazilian doing well becomes popular overnight, only to disappear when said Brazilian is not doing well...
This is a country where businesses close for World Cup games, everything is about their country and these fans are not used to being "worked"...Jericho should have realised this and WWE could well be pissed. THis could effect their standing here in the country too...
The suspension isn't a work, though he was probably on his way out after Orton anyway so he misses one PPV payday, MAYBE two. If I recall correctly, Fozzy has a show on the night of SummerSlam so he's not going to be with WWE then regardless.
My question is, though, whose idea was this? Did Jericho and Punk devise it? Did Jericho see the flag and think "I'll get some heat and snatch it from him"? Or was it a planned angle?
If it was a planned angle, this would be putting the blame on the wrong person.
dronepool
05-25-2012, 01:00 PM
I don't know, I would think that a smart guy like Chris and multi-million company would make sure everything is cool before doing it. This being 'real' is hard to buy. They could be using the internet and media to their avantage.
If it's real, they just did it to show Brazil that there were consequences and the company took responsibility.
you're talking like a grand amount of planning is required for a heel to do a very normal and usually throwaway thing for a heel thing to do. "this being real" isn't close to being hard to buy. What advantage is gained from this? It'd give Jericho a line for a promo, that's about it.
loopydate
05-25-2012, 01:04 PM
Don't forget about JBL goose-stepping in Germany shortly before his gimmick change and multiple title runs.
It was after the gimmick change, and only a couple of weeks before his only WWE Title reign.
#1-norm-fan
05-25-2012, 01:08 PM
Shawn Michaels posted this on Twitter...
Wow, waking up to find twitter blaming me for an apparent suspension of @IAmJericho. Seems to me I’d blame the horrific PC world we’ve allowed ourselves to be caught up in where you can’t “act” & have it called “acting.” BS!! I’ll stand behind @IAmJericho any day of the week & twice on Sunday…what’s the big “E” stand for in WWE anyway!!. I honestly don’t see how many of you make it w/that much anger in your life…seems exhausting & a colossal waste of time!! See, that’s all I’ve got & I’m already tired!! Time to workout & hit my day. Y’all have a wonderful day!! :-)
I'm glad HBK doesn't have to be a prisoner to WWE's PR. Look at me agreeing with that Jesus freak on a social issue. :y:
jskinnyg
05-25-2012, 01:10 PM
Different countries like Brazil and Mexico have severe laws against desecrating their flag... You will never see that in Lucha Libre... You can't even put a sticker of the Mexican Flag on a guitar without possible arrest...
That being said, even if it wasn't a work, great timing for his tour... As it was stated above...
don't blame WWE at all for how they've handled it, Brazil is a huge economy nowadays
and can we stop the tour talk as well, he'd have missed like a week of TV tapings at most for it, it's about 3 shows. If that even given the gigs are on a Wednesday, Thursday and either a Friday, Saturday or Sunday at Download
Fignuts
05-25-2012, 01:18 PM
How the fuck could this possibly be a work?
Why in fuck sake would WWE risk getting Jericho arrested, and potentially lose a big market, just to take Jericho off TV, when there are hundreds of other more sensible ways to do it?
Also, shawn michaels is being a bit ignorant there.
Fignuts
05-25-2012, 01:24 PM
I'm as sick of the overly sensitive PC reactions as anyone, but there still has to be a limit to what you can and can't do.
Personally, like Michaels, I don't have a big problem with the american flag being disrespected for entertainment purposes, but I can surely empathize and understand that other countries feel differently.
It's not PC, it's common sense HBGAY.
haha look what I did there
Wishbone
05-25-2012, 01:28 PM
HBK is totally right on this Fignuts. If anyone was actually offended by this then they need to go crawl under a rock and rot. Learn to laugh already.
voncouch
05-25-2012, 01:29 PM
I don't think this was intended as a work. I think Jericho did it, got hit in a shit storm, and WWE is taking advantage of it. His leaving looks legit now. I think this is one of those instances where a shoot turns into a work, like the Edge/Matt Hardy angle.
Wishbone
05-25-2012, 01:30 PM
I don't think this was intended as a work. I think Jericho did it, got hit in a shit storm, and WWE is taking advantage of it. His leaving looks legit now. I think this is one of those instances where a shoot turns into a work, like the Edge/Matt Hardy angle.
This is possible. No way this is a full on work. WWE isn't that stupid to do something like this just for a storyline.
#1-norm-fan
05-25-2012, 01:33 PM
don't blame WWE at all for how they've handled it, Brazil is a huge economy nowadays
Definitely. Suspend him for a bit and have him apologize to give off the idea that the company sympathizes with them and all is well. I'm sure Jericho's not pissed at the company right now.
I hate the fact that wrestling being a "fake sport" can be used to denigrate it... but when it comes to a situation like this, it can't be treated like any play, movie or other scripted form of entertainment.
#1-norm-fan
05-25-2012, 01:37 PM
I'm as sick of the overly sensitive PC reactions as anyone, but there still has to be a limit to what you can and can't do.
Personally, like Michaels, I don't have a big problem with the american flag being disrespected for entertainment purposes, but I can surely empathize and understand that other countries feel differently.
It's not PC, it's common sense HBGAY.
haha look what I did there
Nope... it's pretty overly PC.
It's a flag... being kicked... by a man playing a character to draw the ire of the crowd.
#1-norm-fan
05-25-2012, 01:40 PM
And I won't even get into how silly the sacredness of flags are in the first place.
erickman
05-25-2012, 02:11 PM
this reminds me of the old time heels where fans waited outside to kick there asses fred blasie had some good storys at getting shoot at.
Emperor Smeat
05-25-2012, 02:54 PM
Overall a pretty stupid thing Jericho did but in terms of wrestling he pulled off a great heel move since it got the crowd hating him.
Also seems to be part of the usual routine of face waves the flag while heel tries to grab the flag or taunt it unlike the really random time of Punk using a homophobic slur against a fan or JBL goosestepping in Germany.
Ruien
05-25-2012, 02:55 PM
I don't think this was intended as a work. I think Jericho did it, got hit in a shit storm, and WWE is taking advantage of it. His leaving looks legit now. I think this is one of those instances where a shoot turns into a work, like the Edge/Matt Hardy angle.
I am going with this.
Overall a pretty stupid thing Jericho did but in terms of wrestling he pulled off a great heel move since it got the crowd hating him.
Also seems to be part of the usual routine of face waves the flag while heel tries to grab the flag or taunt it unlike the really random time of Punk using a homophobic slur against a fan or JBL goosestepping in Germany.
Should have made JBL's finisher a Goosestepping Big Boot.
Ruien
05-25-2012, 02:57 PM
Really interested if they just throw Orton into the title match with Sheamus and Del Rio or if they have someone else as a backup plan for him to feud with.
DLVH84
05-25-2012, 03:36 PM
At least it was not a wellness policy violation.
At least it was not a wellness policy violation.
It's really a coverup for his steroid use.
:shifty:
It'd actually be hilarious if they started issuing behavior violations with suspensions.
From WWE.com:
WWE Superstar Chris Jericho has been suspended for 30 days due to an irresponsible act of denigrating the Brazilian flag at a WWE live event in São Paulo on May 24.
Gertner
05-25-2012, 04:07 PM
His last two stints in the WWE have been very lackluster
JimmyMess
05-25-2012, 04:11 PM
Pretty coincidental since he's leaving to tour with Fozzy anyways.... I assume this was said already, but I'm lazy and not reading any posts
#1-norm-fan
05-25-2012, 04:19 PM
His last two stints in the WWE have been very lackluster
The HBK feud was one of the best feuds in recent memory. Could have and should have gone a year all the way up to WrestleMania. It makes up for whatever shit he did afterwards.
Gertner
05-25-2012, 04:27 PM
The HBK feud was one of the best feuds in recent memory. Could have and should have gone a year all the way up to WrestleMania. It makes up for whatever shit he did afterwards.
Wasn't that stint before his last two?
Evil Vito
05-25-2012, 04:41 PM
Wasn't that stint before his last two?
<font color=goldenrod>Nope, it was all during his second stint. His three stints have been:
1. 1999-2005
2. 2007-2010
3. 2012</font>
Rammsteinmad
05-25-2012, 04:46 PM
I do hope they can somehow use this in a storyline, maybe not showing the actual footage on-air, but they could definitely reference it, maybe it was Jericho's way of dodging Orton or something silly.
Normally suspensions are given for wellness violations, and never get mentioned on-air. This is entirely different and could be a huge asset to a storyline.
Gertner
05-25-2012, 04:46 PM
Wow, I didn't realize his second stint was that long
McLegend
05-25-2012, 04:52 PM
Yeah I didn't know that either(about his 2nd stinit). It had some good parts though. His last run overall hasn't been great. At best it's been ok.
I think this is legit. I def think the Flag thing in Brazil is a shoot if anything I question the suspension a little.
I'm saying 80% it's a all a shoot.
Fignuts
05-25-2012, 05:35 PM
And I won't even get into how silly the sacredness of flags are in the first place.
Again, just because you, and likely many other americans feel that the flag shouldn't be considered sacred, does not mean another country with a completely different history and culture should feel the same.
If you don't understand why they get so angry, that's fine. But I wouldn't say it's too PC unless I've lived in that country, and understand the culture.
FourFifty
05-25-2012, 05:46 PM
Just a reminder- WWE has teased the burning of an American flag, and (if my memory serves me well, so we're talking a 50/50 shot here) even had people fly the American flag upside down. Just saying that some fans are pussies.
what are you on about "some fans are pussies"?
McLegend
05-25-2012, 05:55 PM
lol It's an entirely different country on a different contient.
They are going to have different customs then our own. So when you are in that country you should respect their customs, and not desecrate their flag. Apparently it's not taken well down there.
St. Jimmy
05-25-2012, 05:56 PM
It just means he leaves a bit earlier, it will blow over well before he comes back from his Fozzy Tour. Plus like someone said, not having to job to Orton.
#1-norm-fan
05-25-2012, 06:06 PM
Again, just because you, and likely many other americans feel that the flag shouldn't be considered sacred, does not mean another country with a completely different history and culture should feel the same.
If you don't understand why they get so angry, that's fine. But I wouldn't say it's too PC unless I've lived in that country, and understand the culture.
It doesn't matter. It's a flag. A flag symbolizing something is fine... when it gets to a point where just the act of it being kicked is a huge issue regardless of the meaning, then it's an issue of being overly PC. There is literally nothing in the history of the country that could put a piece of cloth on a stick, no matter what it symbolizes, in a position to cause an incident like this. Symbolism is fine... putting an object on such a high pedestal like that is ridiculous.
K.Smoke
05-25-2012, 06:53 PM
I just can't trust that it is a work because of the lvl of seriousness. At the end of the day he did disrespect the flag. And it is a crime. And he did apologize like he would have suppose to and he did get suspended like would have suppose to. He still has time b4 the tour and he just started a fight with Orton. And Orton has built a name for retaliation lately.
Fignuts
05-25-2012, 06:59 PM
It doesn't matter. It's a flag. A flag symbolizing something is fine... when it gets to a point where just the act of it being kicked is a huge issue regardless of the meaning, then it's an issue of being overly PC. There is literally nothing in the history of the country that could put a piece of cloth on a stick, no matter what it symbolizes, in a position to cause an incident like this. Symbolism is fine... putting an object on such a high pedestal like that is ridiculous.
Agree to disagree.
loopydate
05-25-2012, 07:04 PM
It doesn't matter. It's a flag. A flag symbolizing something is fine... when it gets to a point where just the act of it being kicked is a huge issue regardless of the meaning, then it's an issue of being overly PC. There is literally nothing in the history of the country that could put a piece of cloth on a stick, no matter what it symbolizes, in a position to cause an incident like this. Symbolism is fine... putting an object on such a high pedestal like that is ridiculous.
I know, right? Like those people who sanctify those big wooden lower-case Ts. It's just an object, man.
K.Smoke
05-25-2012, 07:07 PM
I understand what fan is saying and i can see how a person would think like that but i just so disagree with him. Somethings just shouldn't be done. I personally don't place flags in that high a regard but I understand that other people do.
I know, right? Like those people who sanctify those big wooden lower-case Ts. It's just an object, man.
Time to leave.
loopydate
05-25-2012, 07:17 PM
I'm just pointing out that just because a symbol doesn't mean anything to one person (1wf) doesn't mean that it's inherently meaningless to everyone else by using an over-the-top example in an attempt to point out the error of his ways.
Majunior
05-25-2012, 08:59 PM
The general consensus seems to be "No matter what you think is important, someone else will make fun of you because it's stupid."
For some people, what a flag represents is highly important. For others, it's a religious symbol. For some it's drugs or alcohol, and yet others it's cash money. Where some people think trees and wildlife are important, others feel tech and progress is what matters. (These are all things that I have witnessed be a driving force in the life of people I have known.) What someone thinks is important can take any form.
There will always people who will tell you that what is important to you is fucking stupid.
Especially if you're a wrestling fan.
Shisen Kopf
05-25-2012, 09:55 PM
I don't get why all these Latino countries are so prideful. Most of them are total shitholes. Why do you think all the Mexicans illegally come here? Bc it sucks balls there. Why be proud over such a shitty place. Whatever. WWE shouldn't suspend Jericho what they should do is not ever go back to brazil. Seriously, other than their soccer team and carnivale what else does brazil do? Fuck em. USA #1!
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Sepholio
05-25-2012, 11:47 PM
lol @ that pic.
Droford
05-25-2012, 11:49 PM
this has to be made into a tshirt.
Jericho hates FLAGS
Brazil 1 Jericho 0
Rio De no Jericho
wrestling in Brazil has to be the easiest shit ever, especially for the heels
look at flag wrong
attain white hot heat
even for the faces
heel looks at flag wrong
attains white hot heat
blue-eye makes the save
#1-norm-fan
05-26-2012, 12:27 AM
I'm just pointing out that just because a symbol doesn't mean anything to one person (1wf) doesn't mean that it's inherently meaningless to everyone else by using an over-the-top example in an attempt to point out the error of his ways.
It failed because I put that lower case t in the same boat as a flag.
#1-norm-fan
05-26-2012, 12:32 AM
I understand it may have meaning to people. That's fine. It's only an issue when someone else does an action towards that symbol and you go apeshit. It's a flag. They're a mass produced product. One was kicked. Symbolism. Same with a cross. There should be no symbol that can anyone can do to anything no matter the meaning behind it that should remotely cause any kind of negative reaction like this when someone else is deemed as disrespecting it. It's just a reason for people to be pissed. It's ridiculous.
Kane Knight
05-26-2012, 01:00 AM
Don't forget about JBL goose-stepping in Germany shortly before his gimmick change and multiple title runs.
It was after his gimmick change.
I don't know, I would think that a smart guy like Chris and multi-million company would make sure everything is cool before doing it. This being 'real' is hard to buy. They could be using the internet and media to their avantage.
If it's real, they just did it to show Brazil that there were consequences and the company took responsibility.
Yeah, why would WWE do anything illegal or without thinking?
Nope... it's pretty overly PC.
It's a flag... being kicked... by a man playing a character to draw the ire of the crowd.
It's not overly PC. It's "blind patriotic motherfuckers will try and murder you."
#1-norm-fan
05-26-2012, 01:24 AM
You're right. The term PC may not fit here. My point about the reaction being ridiculous stands though.
I feel like the real breaking news here, is that Chris Jericho is still allowed to make bad music with his horrible band and someone is buying enough tickets to justify a tour of this monstrosity.
Ruien
05-26-2012, 08:10 AM
Just a reminder- WWE has teased the burning of an American flag, and (if my memory serves me well, so we're talking a 50/50 shot here) even had people fly the American flag upside down. Just saying that some fans are pussies.
Are you serious right now? The flag of any country is a symbol of what that county has gone through. This is honestly the same thing as saying "People are mad because someone bashed a giant cross with Jesus on it to pieces."
Maybe you don't get the meaning on a flag and the tradation it holds. But as a former military personnel who did his tour in the Middle East; you are insane and need to learn a little bit about the history of your country.
PC stands for PrettyCool?
Kane Knight
05-26-2012, 09:34 AM
Are you serious right now? The flag of any country is a symbol of what that county has gone through. This is honestly the same thing as saying "People are mad because someone bashed a giant cross with Jesus on it to pieces."
Maybe you don't get the meaning on a flag and the tradation it holds. But as a former military personnel who did his tour in the Middle East; you are insane and need to learn a little bit about the history of your country.
lol
DLVH84
05-26-2012, 11:48 AM
PC stands for PrettyCool?
No. Try again.
Keith
05-26-2012, 01:33 PM
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Jericho's got tiny legs.
James Steele
05-26-2012, 03:25 PM
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Jericho's got tiny legs.
Probably wearing skinny jeans.
#1-norm-fan
05-26-2012, 03:32 PM
Are you serious right now? The flag of any country is a symbol of what that county has gone through. This is honestly the same thing as saying "People are mad because someone bashed a giant cross with Jesus on it to pieces."
Maybe you don't get the meaning on a flag and the tradation it holds. But as a former military personnel who did his tour in the Middle East; you are insane and need to learn a little bit about the history of your country.
That reminds me. I haven't pissed on a cross yet today. BRB.
Savio
05-26-2012, 03:45 PM
This seems like a "Daniel Bryan firing"
loopydate
05-26-2012, 04:19 PM
Or Finlay
Savio
05-26-2012, 10:55 PM
Or Finlay
well they brought Bryan back after the heat died down.
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I wonder if they would stop the show if Sonnen would pull a similar stunt against Silva if they were still fighting in Brasil
Mr. Nerfect
05-26-2012, 11:37 PM
I cannot believe some people think this is a work. Yeah, the WWE might try and do something with this now that it's happened, but it is clearly not a work.
Also, I agree entirely with Fignuts on the whole issue of not doing that shit to the Brazil flag. I, personally, don't put much stock in flags, because I see them as a symbol, as wwf-fan does. But I would not go to another person's house, tell them that their beliefs are stupid and assume I can do whatever I want with their most sacred symbols.
That being said, Jericho probably had no clue, made a mistake in the moment, and he's seemed rather proper about how to handle the thing post-event. I wonder if the WWE have scouted out some Brazilian wrestling talent to go after Chris Jericho when he gets back from his holiday, though. That would do some hot business in Brazil.
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-26-2012, 11:42 PM
Update is that it has now been defined as a 30-day suspension.
Shisen Kopf
05-27-2012, 01:19 AM
This is so stupid. Brazilians need to stop being so damn sensitive about their flag. I mean really, a green and yellow flag? Whatever. Another foreign country I dislike now. Fucking bitch asses butt hurt bc their lame flag got stepped on. Fuck them.
Shisen Kopf
05-27-2012, 01:22 AM
http://cloud.graphicleftovers.com/15381/123734/flag-of-brazil-wavy-burning.jpg
Eat a dick brazil!
K.Smoke
05-27-2012, 01:26 PM
ya I found out about the 30 day thing yesterday on wrestling net having computer problems though so will start fresh arguements tomorrow after I take my son home. TaTa for now!
Gertner
05-28-2012, 08:41 PM
I sometimes say things to get a rise out of people. Please ignore me.
Sepholio
05-28-2012, 09:54 PM
And now Jericho says he is done on his twitter. I guess he got a little butt hurt over the suspension, but I can't blame him. Plenty of people have gotten away with murder in the WWE with no repercussions.
K.Smoke
05-29-2012, 07:27 PM
You know I didn't see where they was going with the Jericho Orton thing anyway.
Tazz Dan
05-29-2012, 07:31 PM
Dude. Please stop posting your sig with every post.
K.Smoke
05-29-2012, 07:41 PM
changing someones post is an abuse of powers and totally disrespectful!
Xlent don't read the sig
Anybody Thrilla
05-29-2012, 07:44 PM
It really would be nice to not see that sig in every post, and it's a very easy fix. Just saying.
K.Smoke
05-29-2012, 07:44 PM
ok Anybody no problem
Tazz Dan
05-29-2012, 07:47 PM
changing someones post is an abuse of powers and totally disrespectful!
Xlent don't read the sig
Who changed what post?
Damndirty
05-29-2012, 08:19 PM
I'm an albino mexican
K.Smoke
05-29-2012, 09:39 PM
Who changed what post?
Sorry Tazz wasn't referring to u when i was talking about the post changing. But, my post which i edited already, had after what is there now "I like Jerichos sexy body and want to sux his dick." Or something to that effect. Now i know I didn't write it which means someone changed it.
James Steele
05-29-2012, 10:46 PM
My sig is better than yours.
http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv183/kuri91/gorillachest.gif
James Steele
05-29-2012, 10:57 PM
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#1-norm-fan
05-30-2012, 01:18 AM
Hennig looks like he has down's syndrome.
Tazz Dan
05-30-2012, 01:28 AM
Bad call dude
#1-norm-fan
05-30-2012, 01:32 AM
No, it's quite accurate.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1cv47tdDh1r4ocu1o5_250.gif
Skippord
05-30-2012, 02:12 AM
new sig
Tazz Dan
05-30-2012, 02:15 AM
Wrong thread.
http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=99933&page=713
Skippord
05-30-2012, 02:17 AM
everyone else was doing it
Skippord
05-30-2012, 02:17 AM
also I was mentioning my idea for a Snow Miser/Chris Jericho feud when he gets back
Tazz Dan
05-30-2012, 02:24 AM
I would totally go for that
K.Smoke
05-30-2012, 06:13 AM
hey did i start this
Waaaay Coooooool
Tazz Dan
05-30-2012, 06:49 AM
Don't get excited son. Ok, get a little bit of you like. But if you wee I'm not cleaning it up.
K.Smoke
05-30-2012, 07:09 PM
lol
Kane Knight
05-30-2012, 09:44 PM
I cannot believe some people think this is a work. Yeah, the WWE might try and do something with this now that it's happened, but it is clearly not a work.
If only there was some prior precedent where someone <s>goose</s>stepped over the line at the behest of WWE and did something illegal in a country that was really sensitive about the issue at hand.
Nothing comes to mind <s>kampf</s>. Well, I can think of one such incident, but it'd be a reich to call it the same.
Maybe WWE didn't think these guys would be such panzers about it. They've never experienced such fuhrer before....
I guess what I'm saying is, they did nazi this coming.
K.Smoke
05-30-2012, 10:23 PM
If its a work, whats the angle.
Swish
05-31-2012, 03:18 AM
If its a work, whats the angle.
It's a work, and there is no angle.
They suspended him, so he could tour with his band Fozzy.
They are playing at Download this month. ;)...
He'll be back by the end of the year or sooner.
yup, they definitely suspended him for 30 days so his band can play a 45 minute slot at a festival and 2 supporting slot gigs on the 2 preceding days which he could have done without even missing a RAW taping
Volare
05-31-2012, 12:18 PM
Classic Vince thinking!!
Mr. Nerfect
06-01-2012, 10:07 PM
If only there was some prior precedent where someone <s>goose</s>stepped over the line at the behest of WWE and did something illegal in a country that was really sensitive about the issue at hand.
Nothing comes to mind <s>kampf</s>. Well, I can think of one such incident, but it'd be a reich to call it the same.
Maybe WWE didn't think these guys would be such panzers about it. They've never experienced such fuhrer before....
I guess what I'm saying is, they did nazi this coming.
Probably one of your funnier posts, sadly.
K.Smoke
06-01-2012, 10:23 PM
yup, they definitely suspended him for 30 days so his band can play a 45 minute slot at a festival and 2 supporting slot gigs on the 2 preceding days which he could have done without even missing a RAW taping
I don't think they could of done it without missing a raw bcus Jericho would need to practice without being bruised up.
Ok, relunctantly I'll go with it being a work!
SlickyTrickyDamon
06-02-2012, 02:59 AM
This might be the longest thread created by me. Thank you Chris Jericho!
Mr. Nerfect
06-02-2012, 03:41 AM
I'm still hoping that we get to see Christian and Chris Jericho mix it up over the Intercontinental Title sometime in what you in the northern hemisphere would call the fall season. Jericho vs. Orton seems like it would be a likely candidate for a SummerSlam match at this point, but Night of Champions is an intriguing PPV concept because you have a certain number of slots that need to be filled with championship matches, and likewise a certain list of talent you want to sell your PPVs. Chris Jericho is one of those guys that will make every PPV, even if it's not in the World Title picture.
Christian vs. Chris Jericho at Night of Champions has my complete support.
K.Smoke
06-02-2012, 10:46 AM
Wow if i didn't like so many of ur recent comments Noid I would of neg rep u. Christian vs Jericho for the "IC" title. Jericho would rather quit then to be dropped down to IC ranks.
Mr. Nerfect
06-02-2012, 11:03 AM
Why would Jericho rather quit than be dropped down to the IC ranks? He had an awesome feud with Rey Mysterio over the IC Title on SmackDown! a few years back. It was regarded as one of the high points of Jericho's last WWE run.
loopydate
06-02-2012, 11:06 AM
Wow if i didn't like so many of ur recent comments Noid I would of neg rep u. Christian vs Jericho for the "IC" title. Jericho would rather quit then to be dropped down to IC ranks.
You are referring to nine-time IC Champion Chris Jericho, right?
Keith
06-02-2012, 11:08 AM
Having a top guy hold the IC Title for a little bit may be exactly what that title needs in order to get back to prominence. Hell, it doesn't even have to ge a top guy, it can be guys like Ziggler, Del Rio or Mysterio.
But it won't happen, seeing as how many people would see it as a demotion.
Mr. Nerfect
06-02-2012, 11:10 AM
Christian, a former two-time World Champion, is currently holding the belt and wrestling good-to-great matches at every set of tapings each week.
Mr. Nerfect
06-02-2012, 11:12 AM
The only thing I would change about Christian's current run is that I would make him a "fighting champion," and he puts the title on the line in all his matches. So at this point, he'd have defended the title successfully against Jinder Mahal, Hunico, The Miz and Drew McIntyre.
Keith
06-02-2012, 11:13 AM
Is Christian currently a heel or face?
K.Smoke
06-02-2012, 11:26 AM
You are referring to nine-time IC Champion Chris Jericho, right?
Yes but like I said also Dropped down. We're talking about a man who upon his return targeted the WWE champion and then started a fued with Orton before being suspended. Egotiscal is his other name and its not just a facade. I think that it would have to be... no no what am I saying he just plain wouldn't do it.
K.Smoke
06-02-2012, 11:30 AM
Christian matches have not been interesting I think his match with the Miz was one of his worst showing and b4 its said and done Cody will use Christian name to bolster the worthiness of the IC title. however i do agree with Noid that a fighting IC champ no matter who it is would do wonders for the belt.
Mr. Nerfect
06-02-2012, 11:32 AM
Yes but like I said also Dropped down. We're talking about a man who upon his return targeted the WWE champion and then started a fued with Orton before being suspended. Egotiscal is his other name and its not just a facade. I think that it would have to be... no no what am I saying he just plain wouldn't do it.
That is almost exactly how his last WWE return went, too.
Mr. Nerfect
06-02-2012, 11:34 AM
Is Christian currently a heel or face?
Christian is currently a babyface, which I think is a very good thing, because good faces are quite hard to come by these days. While Christian plays a very good heel, I think his work as a face since returning has been some of the most consistent in the entire WWE.
He's also added a Frog Splash to his move-set, which he hits after flooring his opponent with The Killswitch. He's looked like a beast since returning.
Gertner
06-02-2012, 12:14 PM
Christian is horribly bland as a face
#1-norm-fan
06-02-2012, 12:20 PM
Christian is amazing in the ring as a face. That was the thing I missed when he turned heel was those matches where he would do a ton of "facey" stuff in the ring just to play with the crowd. Piper used to do the same thing.
Keith
06-02-2012, 01:28 PM
Christian is currently a babyface, which I think is a very good thing, because good faces are quite hard to come by these days. While Christian plays a very good heel, I think his work as a face since returning has been some of the most consistent in the entire WWE.
He's also added a Frog Splash to his move-set, which he hits after flooring his opponent with The Killswitch. He's looked like a beast since returning.
I did see that Frog Splash on Monday.
I could've sworn he was heel, because I thought I saw him cut a heel promo when he came back. Guess not.
#1-norm-fan
06-02-2012, 01:34 PM
I did see that Frog Splash on Monday.
I could've sworn he was heel, because I thought I saw him cut a heel promo when he came back. Guess not.
Maybe when he came back before WrestleMania. Then he left again. Then he came back as a face at Over the Limit.
K.Smoke
06-02-2012, 02:36 PM
i have to admit i always like him better as a face
Mr. Nerfect
06-02-2012, 08:50 PM
Christian is horribly bland as a face
So is Ryback. Your point?
Gertner
06-03-2012, 02:25 PM
Ryback is killing machine. He eats vanilla babyfaces likes Christian for breakfast!
Christian, a former two-time World Champion, is currently holding the belt and wrestling good-to-great matches at every set of tapings each week.
Christian never was and never will be a top guy, though. Though one could argue he was a top guy in Edge and Christian.
Jericho is without a doubt a top guy.
whiteyford
06-03-2012, 02:49 PM
I don't really view Jericho as a top guy, never really saw him as anything other than a transitional champion.
K.Smoke
06-03-2012, 04:54 PM
I don't really view Jericho as a top guy, never really saw him as anything other than a transitional champion.
Ok it is one thing to say Jericho sux but to say that he wasn't a top guy is insanity.
Corporate CockSnogger
06-03-2012, 04:57 PM
what
K.Smoke
06-03-2012, 07:17 PM
he called him transitional i mean this guy is a triple crown champion. He's the first ever undisputed Champion in wrestling history. He's a grand slam champion. He won 2 slammys for superstar of the year and tag team of the year. And though the slammys are rigged he really deserved them. He was even the European champion and hardcore champion. And as already mentioned he was 9x IC champ and this isn't even most of his achievements. Well maybe it is but he still has a lot more. No he was never the #1 guy in the WWE or WCW or ECW but he was never a transitory champion.
whiteyford
06-04-2012, 12:25 AM
And? In any of his World Title runs was he ever booked as the 'Man'? He won the undisputed title but the focus wasn't really on him. You realise its a work right because Raven was a 47 time Hardcore Champion so by your logic he was the most successful singles competitor ever.
K.Smoke
06-04-2012, 07:56 AM
And? Raven was a 47 time Hardcore Champion so by your logic he was the most successful singles competitor ever.
Our logic must not meet because the Hardcore title isn't a major title. Its a gimmick title. I mention Jericho having european title and Hardcore title as a "He even won titles that don't exist anymore". It was for boltsering. Still no transitory champion can boast being a triple crown and grand slam.
And to add to matters u changed from saying "a top guy" to "the man"
Randy Orton is a top guy but never been the face of WWE i.e. the man
Corporate CockSnogger
06-04-2012, 08:03 AM
Ok it is one thing to say Jericho sux but to say that he wasn't a top guy is insanity.
This still makes no sense.
K.Smoke
06-04-2012, 08:35 AM
yes it does because to say he sux is a personal opinion but to say he isn't a top guy is to go against all the evidence. Like I think Christian Sux but he's still one of WWE top mid carders based on evidence.
Corporate CockSnogger
06-04-2012, 09:24 AM
It's my opinion that he isn't a top guy.
whiteyford
06-04-2012, 09:47 AM
Simply trying to mix up the metaphors, top guy/ the man whatever, Benoit held major titles in every promotion he was in too, still wouldn't say he was a top guy. The fact that Jericho can be demoted,and I use the term loosely, to the minor titles after being world champ sums it up for me, when was the last time Cena or HHH were competing over IC titles? Even when Jericho was world champion he was never the focal point of the show, no idea who he lost the strap too but I'm going to guess he held it between Cena reigns.
whiteyford
06-04-2012, 09:49 AM
And I never said he "sux", really you should try using proper grown up words btw, I simply said in my opinion he was a transitional champion. I don't think he sucks, I think he's vastly overrated but again my opinion.
gonna see Jericho Thursday, might ask him if he's a top guy
whiteyford
06-04-2012, 10:13 AM
Bring some closure to this thread CSL, it all rests on your shoulders.
Keith
06-04-2012, 10:14 AM
I find it a bit odd that Jericho was supposed to wrestle Orton, and now they're both suspended.
It's a crazy coincidence, at the very least.
I'll tell him the future of the TPWW.net wrestling forum depends on it
Corporate CockSnogger
06-04-2012, 10:29 AM
Ask him what his favourite Billy Gunn match was for TPWW poster Iginfest.
K.Smoke
06-04-2012, 06:51 PM
ok CSL lets hear it. Transitory champion or no?
well he's certainly not a "long term guy" when it comes to holding titles, he's a guy who draws great heat, he makes people want to see him get beaten up/"get his comeuppance", which is a great spot for a placeholder with somebody else chasing his title, he's not the guy chasing the title and potentially holding it for a long time. Which isn't to say he couldn't be but I'm pretty sure he's "past" career advancement now and is perfectly happy in that spot, he's set for life, can pretty much come and go as he pleases and has probably achieved stuff past any of his wildest dreams. He's always over, people always "buy what he's selling", he can bounce around between the main event and the midcard and even drop odd matches to lower guys and it doesn't hurt him. He's an attraction.
Gertner
06-04-2012, 07:18 PM
Jericho is definitely a transitional champion. He's not a guy who can carry a promotion, but is great for putting people over, and there's nothing wrong with that.
He's a very effective heel, and does wonders for drawing drawing face reaction to who he's facing.
parkmania
06-06-2012, 06:55 PM
Jericho could be a long-term champ and "the man" if he really wanted to, but at this point he seems to be happier with the level of success he's had in branding himself in both the wrestling and rock and roll worlds. Probably his one regret is that he didn't achieve as much notariety in non-wrestling TV as he wanted - his DWTS stint and gameshow both left something to be desired.
Kane Knight
06-06-2012, 10:04 PM
Jericho could be a long-term champ and "the man" if he really wanted to, but at this point he seems to be happier with the level of success he's had in branding himself in both the wrestling and rock and roll worlds. Probably his one regret is that he didn't achieve as much notariety in non-wrestling TV as he wanted - his DWTS stint and gameshow both left something to be desired.
So what's his mark on the rock and roll world? A third rate band that's fronted by a dude who can't sing?
I'm sure he enjoys the gig, but the dude's ass. As for pro wrestling, I seriously doubt he could ever be the man.
tjmidnight420
06-06-2012, 10:56 PM
he called him transitional i mean this guy is a triple crown champion. He's the first ever undisputed Champion in wrestling history. He's a grand slam champion. He won 2 slammys for superstar of the year and tag team of the year. And though the slammys are rigged he really deserved them. He was even the European champion and hardcore champion. And as already mentioned he was 9x IC champ and this isn't even most of his achievements. Well maybe it is but he still has a lot more. No he was never the #1 guy in the WWE or WCW or ECW but he was never a transitory champion.
Everything else listed is rigged as well. Also, CSL don't waste your question on that, anyone who has read his books knows he left WWE the first time because he realized he was never gonna be the top guy.
K.Smoke
06-07-2012, 05:54 AM
Reason I ended the argument after CSL explained is because if i continued to argue on it would of been on a play of word semantics. Originally when he said not one of the top guys, I assumed that he meant he didn't get the lvl of push of orton Cena HHH etc. etc.. As far as him being the # 1 guy in the company or at least the # 2 its a spot reserved for few. And it seems that if ur not in that #1 or #2 spot ur considered a transitional champion to those here or at least in this forum. i happen to disagree with that assumption. Thought it better to pick a different war especially since most the people here have been here for a while and are on the same wave length as far as meanings to words.
Did think it was cute to be called an idiot though. Can't wait to see how my insults are taken. hahahahahahahaha (evil laugh). I'll bid my time.
Corporate CockSnogger
06-07-2012, 07:41 AM
To be fair, you do seem like a bit of an idiot.
addy2hotty
06-07-2012, 08:02 AM
Watched MacGruber recently.
K.Smoke
06-07-2012, 04:18 PM
well at least ur being fair about it.
tjmidnight420
06-07-2012, 04:32 PM
Did think it was cute to be called an idiot though. Can't wait to see how my insults are taken. hahahahahahahaha (evil laugh). I'll bid my time.
For what it's worth Jericho is probably my favorite of all time so my statement wasn't because of a biased opinion against the guy. Also as far as I know I didn't call you an idiot. If I did I apologize, as I usually reserve words like that (and much worse) for the trolls. You've done nothing to make me think you're a troll.
James Steele
06-07-2012, 07:44 PM
K. Smoke is the goods, so fuck you.
K.Smoke
06-08-2012, 06:20 AM
Thanks guys. I actually like the activity here. I try not to be spread out on a lot of different sites like i use to be. The last wrestling site the people started to disappear and though the site is still up the mods gave up on it and didn't appoint new people so the fun left as well. This one is so active. I don't get upset at words I mean at 34 if peoples words hurt still u still have some growing to do. In about a year though TPWW will be use to me.
Gertner
06-09-2012, 10:48 AM
Wanna be my slave?
Skippord
06-10-2012, 05:26 AM
would you stop hitting on people here Gertner?
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