Antonio Cesaro discussion

[Damndirty]

Formely a part of the Swiss military and a famed rugby player, do you think this will mean anything in the longrun of his WWE career? Now that Teddy is no longer Ace's bitchboy, do you think there'll be any more involvement between he and Cesaro, or would it be time to let Anthony find a storyline without it? Opinions on where this guy is going, and what potential use he could have in the company?

[KaosDarksol]

He just needs to get in a real feud

[Damndirty]

I just don't wanna see anymore trends in making every new guy only fight in squash matches until he gets boring.

[Rammsteinmad]

Cesaro unfortunately has been "lost in the shuffle" of this huge wave of new guys we've seen lately going on undefeated streaks.

We've got Ryback, Brodus Clay, Damien Sandow, Cesaro, and until recently we had Tensai, and Sin Cara has his return-from-injury streak going on. None of these guys have legit storylines unless you count Clay's stuff with Big Show at the moment, and so generally all these guys are just winning squash matches.

[Damndirty]

I think they need to give him his opportunity now, while there are a few guys on the injury list. Hell, seeing the same Ryback squashing of doublejobbers is becoming a wasted time slot that could have been used for him.

[Hanso Amore]

I like giving him Aksana and having him get heat from Teddy Long. Hopefully long comes into power and Cesaro is a "Foil" of sorts.

Have Teddy book some matches where Cesaro is going to "get his comuppance" only for Cesaro to win and foil Long. Something of how Long will never beat him and Aksana will always be his.

Then move him into a program with Christian for the IC title and maybe he will get over. They need to do SOMETHING with him now.

[Damndirty]

That could actually work! As long as they don't Drew-bury him. I think this one has more potential than Drew though.

[K.Smoke]

truth be told, I'm only interested in seeing Aksana. I agree with the him looking bland and the music to boot. He has no future under his current gimmick. No matter how many squash matches he win. He's not even the most fun to watch out of the current guys with squash matches.

Ryback looks boring now unless he really does put 3 people on his shoulders

Lord Tensei isn't undefeated but his all his loses (2) came at the hands of stars. Need i say more on him.

Brotus Clay has the best potential and mainly because of candice and Naomi but the big show beef helped him look relevent.

Sandow actually has had on average the best lvl of competition but he hasn't shown me anything of what I saw of him b4 the WWE. If he starts to wrestle now and add a few more victories he can be a force.

Cesaro is a bust

[St. Jimmy]

Claudio is the man.

[Damndirty]

He reminds me of a slightly smaller version of Nathan Jones. Maybe they should have something lined for him with Morgan's return if he has one?

[The Show Off]

First off, I don't think he's having any sort of "streak" sure he's undefeated since his debut but thats true of most wrestlers. Brodus Clay and Ryback have "streaks" Antonio is just being introduced and the best way to introduce a new wrestler is to have him win.

When I saw Claudio Castagnoli wrestle in ROH I was positive that he would one day be a main eventer in the WWE. After seeing him in the WWE I'm still pretty sure of that. The guy has a good look, he's talented in the ring, he can talk and he's unique in the fact that he is Swiss and that will allow him to stand out when the WWE wants to push him.

I don't think he needs to be in the main event (or even on PPVs) for right now. I think now is just his time to look good in the ring and have a little feud with Teddy Long that only takes place on Smackdown. But eventually he is going to be a reliable upper-mid carder for the WWE for a long time. And then after that he will get a few main events under his belt.

He's talented and he will go far but right now there are a lot of guys who are more interesting and deserving for higher spots, those people need to settle themselves out before Antonio can find his place.

[Damndirty]

True, he is far off from main-eventing, but Teddy's involvement is going to help him get closer, especially if Antonio is doing things that make Teddy furious, like showing a vid of him unzipping Aksana's top and anticipating foreplay (like the references she and Long used to exchange).

[Volare]

He's got Aksana...so at least he's got something to look at while walking to the ring.

[Damndirty]

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[kareru]

i'm hoping that they are waiting for chris hero to ..erm 'graduate' into the full roster

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[Damn]

He needs an interesting gimmick. I propose a gimmick where Cesaro thinks he is a descendant of a Swiss king and acts "royal" and eventually becomes a knight, wearing armor to the ring.

[Rollermacka]

i'm hoping that they are waiting for chris hero to ..erm 'graduate' into the full roster

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Kassius Ohno, that is a hell of a name. Kassius and Cesaro... sounds like a hell of a tag team

[Damndirty]

How is Hero coming along?

[K.Smoke]

I'd prefer Hero over Tensei and Ryback right now

[Damndirty]

What about Andy?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Should split up Teddy and Cesario if Teddy is going to be back as the GM of Smackdown. Move Claudio to raw.

[K.Smoke]

Don't think Teddy will be GM that quick. He'll probably fade away for a while.

[Damndirty]

I think this is gonna be like a reality show spot to determine who is most fit for the job.

[GD]

His nipples are very big.

[tjogo]

His nipples are very big.

only someone with an avatar like yours would post that.

[GD]

That doesn't even make sense.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

only someone with an avatar like yours would post that.

Did Carlton Lassister arrest your avatar is that why you are so butt-hurt?

[tjogo]

That doesn't even make sense.

that means you like men.

[Damndirty]

He needs a boob job:lol:

[GD]

that means you like men.

So?

[Damndirty]

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[K.Smoke]

funny lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

First off, I don't think he's having any sort of "streak" sure he's undefeated since his debut but thats true of most wrestlers. Brodus Clay and Ryback have "streaks" Antonio is just being introduced and the best way to introduce a new wrestler is to have him win.

When I saw Claudio Castagnoli wrestle in ROH I was positive that he would one day be a main eventer in the WWE. After seeing him in the WWE I'm still pretty sure of that. The guy has a good look, he's talented in the ring, he can talk and he's unique in the fact that he is Swiss and that will allow him to stand out when the WWE wants to push him.

I don't think he needs to be in the main event (or even on PPVs) for right now. I think now is just his time to look good in the ring and have a little feud with Teddy Long that only takes place on Smackdown. But eventually he is going to be a reliable upper-mid carder for the WWE for a long time. And then after that he will get a few main events under his belt.

He's talented and he will go far but right now there are a lot of guys who are more interesting and deserving for higher spots, those people need to settle themselves out before Antonio can find his place.

Essentially this. I really think that the WWE knows what they have in Cesaro, but they won't rush it. And there's no reason to.

Now that John Laurinaitis is out of power, I could see Teddy Long getting control of SmackDown! for a week and putting Cesaro in a match against a mystery opponent. Cue Ryback's music, as the undefeated man makes his way to the ring. He gets in, and Cesaro is looking all serious before he eventually cracks a smile at the challenge awaiting him.

Ryback and Cesaro lock up, and Ryback shoves Cesaro right out of it and Cesaro is shocked at the brute strength Ryback has. Cesaro gets up and applauds the big man, before giving him a poke in the eye and applying a headlock. Ryback shoves Cesaro off the ropes, and Cesaro shoulder tackles Ryback, but Ryback doesn't go down and just yells in the face of Cesaro, who doesn't flinch, but instead hits the ropes again and tackles Ryback a second time to no avail. Cesaro hits the ropes a third time and this time is flattened by a tackle from Ryback.

Cesaro rolls out of the ring and Ryback gives chase. Cesaro re-enters the ring and pounces on Ryback, and actually gets the big man in a cravate. Ryback fights up, but Cesaro knees him in the gut and then manages to power him over into a gutwrench suplex for two. The announce team is going nuts about how nobody has done this to Ryback yet. Cesaro goes for his Gotch Style Neutralizer finisher, but Ryback powers out and back body drops Cesaro before hitting some signature maneuvers of his own. He goes for his Shell Shocked move, but Cesaro actually fights out of it, as well. Cesaro could perhaps even hit a Discus Swiss Uppercut on Ryback, to ground the big man again or something. Cesaro then goes to the second rope, and hits an elbow drop, but it only gets a two count on the undefeated Ryback. Cesaro goes to the second rope again and hits another elbow, but it again only gets two. Cesaro then looks to the top rope, and thinks finishing Ryback off with perhaps a Flying Elbow, but as he goes up, Ryback crotches him and then hits Shell Shocked from that position and gets the three on Cesaro.

This would continue Ryback's streak; would give Ryback a challenge; and make Cesaro look good for putting up a fight against Ryback and actually being up for the challenge. Everybody wins.

Then you bring up Kassius Ohno to team with Cesaro.

[Mr. Nerfect]

In fact, I just booked an amazingly hot summer angle for the WWE (in my mind, anyway).

You do what you do above, and have Ryback beat Antonio Cesaro on SmackDown! one of these coming weeks. The next week, Ryback makes his way out to face three mystery opponents, but while he is making his entrance, Cesaro hits Ryback in the back with a steel chair. He beats the crap out of Ryback using the chair, and then yells at Ryback "This is all that matters to me! You beat me so now I'll beat you!"

The next week on SmackDown!, Cesaro explains his actions more clearly, and says that losing to Ryback is unacceptable, since he is all about winning. He then proceeds to beat four nobodies in a squash match, but not only that, an elimination squash match. He makes one submit to a cravate, and he pins another after a Ricola Bomb. A third is pinned after a Gotch Style Neutralizer, and then the last is pinned after Cesaro uses Ryback's own Shell Shocked finisher.

The next week, Ryback returns and wants Cesaro in the ring again. Cesaro appears and says that he will only face Ryback at Money in the Bank, and if Ryback agrees to another stipulation -- Cesaro can choose a tag team partner to face him. Ryback accepts, because he's not the brightest, and because he wants Cesaro so badly.

At Money in the Bank, Cesaro brings out Kassius Ohno as his partner. The announce team recognises him from NXT, but doesn't really know what to make of this. Cesaro & Ohno start off being tossed around a bit by Ryback, but the numbers gets to the big man, and he is taken down. They try their various moves on Ryback, but he manages to stay alive. Eventually, though, Cesaro manages to hit Ryback with the Gotch Style Neutralizer and he pins Ryback with Kassius Ohno applying pressure on the pin as well. Ryback's streak is over.

Also at the MITB PPV, John Cena wins the Money in the Bank Ladder Match. I know what you're thinking -- John Cena doesn't need it. I think the WWE should hold off on giving it to a Cody Rhodes type this year, however. Dolph Ziggler is ready, but I would have it look like he is about to bring the briefcase down, but Jack Swagger runs out and shoves Ziggler off the ladder, turning on his partner (the story is that only one of Vickie's clients could get in, and Vickie chooses Dolph). Kofi Kingston is also taken out by the Prime Time Players, who defeat Epico & Primo to remain #1 Contenders for the WWE Tag Team Championship. So John Cena is sort of third place in a controversial MITB. He bumps into CM Punk backstage at the PPV, and Punk asks Cena if he plans on cashing in after he and Daniel Bryan go to war in a Submission Match also scheduled for the MITB PPV. Cena says that he has more respect than that, and Punk will know when Cena is going to cash in.

Punk and Bryan wrestle a potential classic in the main event of the PPV (also, Sheamus defends against Alberto Del Rio successfully), and Punk forces Bryan to submit to the Anaconda Vise. John Cena comes out and applauds Punk from the stage sarcastically.

The next night on RAW, Antonio Cesaro & Kassius Ohno are discussing how they ended the fabled streak of Ryback last night, and it was just academic. They were smarter than Ryback, and just tougher. They bring up their history teaming, and they say that they used to be "The Kings of Wrestling," but since that's a dirty word, they will now be known as "The Kings of the Universe." This brings up CM Punk, who puts over their tag team work before asking them how proud they are to defeat Ryback two-on-one. "Pretty proud." Well Punk has a challenge for them -- CM Punk & Ryback vs. The Kings of the Universe tonight. At some point in the evening, John Cena also lets CM Punk know that he intends on cashing in at the 1000th RAW in the main event.

In that main event, Punk is isolated by the heels, but then gets the hot tag to Ryback, who absolutely slaughters the heels. Punk is knocked off the apron by Antonio Cesaro in a moment of slight reprieve for the MOTU, who are then again overpowered by Ryback, who looks to hit the simultaneous Shell Shocked on both guys, before someone hits Ryback in the back with a steel chair. It's Daniel Bryan! Ryback is only mildly annoyed by this chair shot, however, and looks like he is about to destroy Bryan when he gets low blowed by Kassius Ohno. Bryan then hits Ryback with the steel chair across the back a few more times, and then puts him in The "Yes!" Lock. Punk tries to save Ryback, but gets nailed with a Very European Uppercut. The Kings of the Universe and Daniel Bryan beat-down CM Punk and Ryback until John Cena runs down for the save. Cena clears out Ohno, Cesaro and Bryan using his MITB briefcase as a weapon, and then turns his attention to a slowly recovering CM Punk. The crowd goes nuts in anticipation -- will Cena go back on his word? BAM! Cena nails Punk with the briefcase. Cena tells the referee checking on Ryback that he is cashing in! Cena hits Punk with the Attitude Adjustment and pins Punk... 1-2-3! John Cena has become the new WWE Champion!

Some of the crowd cheers, and some boos. Michael Cole is yelling that Cena said he would wait. King seems to be on the fence, saying that Cena did say he would wait, but he has the right to cash in whenever he wants. The story going forward is that Punk always called Cena a phony and Cena proved him right. He doesn't act so much betrayed as he does feel vindicated in his war against Cena during 2011. Cena says that every Money in the Bank Winner has cashed in the way he did -- why should he be any different. He's no Superman -- he's just a guy who wants to be the WWE Champion and busts his ass every night for the fans. So not a John Cena heel turn, although it will get people talking.

Now, a lot of people might not like this idea, given that they'd want to see a WWE Championship match at SummerSlam, but given that Brock Lesnar vs. Triple H is going to be a big deal for the event, you could do John Cena, CM Punk & Ryback vs. Daniel Bryan & The Masters of the Universe, with the hook being the tension between Punk and Cena. You'd still have a World Heavyweight Title match on the show.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So, a short sequence of events:

* Ryback beats Antonio Cesaro.

* Cesaro is pissed and attacks Ryback heelishly.

* Ryback challenges Cesaro, who accepts only on his own terms -- a Handicap Match.

* Cesaro & Ohno -- who dub themselves "The Masters of the Universe" beat Ryback.

* John Cena wins Money in the Bank.

* CM Punk beats Daniel Bryan in a Submission Match.

* John Cena says that he will cash in the Money in the Bank briefcase at the 1000th edition of RAW in the main event against CM Punk for the WWE Championship.

* CM Punk & Ryback defeat The Masters of the Universe via disqualification when sore loser, Daniel Bryan, attacks Ryback and seemingly forges an alliance with The Masters of the Universe.

* John Cena saves the day, but then cashes in Money in the Bank on CM Punk, shocking the world in the process.

Truth be told, the whole thing could probably work with Cena just looking at the briefcase, looking at the wounded Punk, and then deciding not to cash in, and Punk goading Cena for showing weakness; but Cena cashing in would be more shocking. Although, I do feel that Cena not cashing in, the six-man going ahead, Cena vs. Punk at Night of Champions with Punk going over and then going for the full year as WWE Champion would be stronger storytelling.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Night of Champions is in September. He wouldn't choose Summerslam or something sooner?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Night of Champions is in September. He wouldn't choose Summerslam or something sooner?

Night of Champions wouldn't be his title shot. He'd get that on the 1000th RAW as he promised. In that scheduled match, Daniel Bryan, Kassius Ohno & Antonio Cesaro would get involved and take out Cena and Punk leading to a massive brawl closing the show.

At SummerSlam, Punk would team with Cena and Ryback against Bryan, Ohno & Cesaro, with the promise of a clean WWE Title match down the line with Cena once their adversaries are vanquished. Night of Champions sees the one-on-one match between the two.

[K.Smoke]

Excellent show Noid we need to petition the WWE. They need you. Best show Idea I've seen on here.



I know I haven't been on here long but hey still the best I've seen on here

[Gertner]

Ryback should come out, put Bryan, Punk, and Cesaro into his marching fisherman buster and save the WWE's ratings. Enough with these ROH vanilla midgets who don't draw and can't wrestle.

[K.Smoke]

Ryback should come out, put Bryan, Punk, and Cesaro into his marching fisherman buster and save the WWE's ratings. Enough with these ROH vanilla midgets who don't draw and can't wrestle.



Ok I know I'm suppose to ignore him but this was actually funny

[VSG]

Loved the booking, Noid. Now if only this happened :(

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ryback should come out, put Bryan, Punk, and Cesaro into his marching fisherman buster and save the WWE's ratings. Enough with these ROH vanilla midgets who don't draw and can't wrestle.

I know you're just trolling, but Cesaro is like 100kg of solid muscle.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Noid hits Swiss Death on Gertner's argument.

[Vastardikai]

Should have went for the UFO, to be honest.

[Gertner]

I know you're just trolling, but Cesaro is like 100kg of solid muscle.

Cesaro could be a body double for X-Pac

[VSG]

Now you are just trying.

[K.Smoke]

a good try never the less

[Gertner]

He's not bad. He justs needs more time in Developmental to learn how to wrestle properly.

[K.Smoke]

He's not bad. He justs needs more time in Developmental to learn how to wrestle properly.


Halarious simply Halarious. He's on a roll.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

He's not bad. He justs needs more time in Developmental to learn how to wrestle properly.

Nah, man is tremendous. You just need to tell yourself that he's not an indy darling and you'd be in love with him.

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[Damndirty]

He needs to wear one of these, it may add alot to his character

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