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VSG
06-21-2012, 07:59 PM
It started with an interview with Ricardo Rodriguez on FCW in August, 2011:

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WWE decides The Ascension does not need Ricardo and a cheesy promo aires on FCW in September, 2011:

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Members: Conor O'Brian, Kenneth Cameron, Orlando "Epico" Colon and Raquel Diaz

A match (only one that I know of) happens in October:

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Fantastic look, and reminded me a lot of The Brood. Of course then Epico was brought up to the main brands to team up with Primo and Raquel Diaz stopped appearing with Conor O'Brian and Kenneth Cameron. These two wrestled as a tag team:

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A couple of matches happened and no one gave a damn. Until...

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Intro promo (5 min in) + match from this week's NXT. A squash match with clear intention to push them- hard.

I personally can't wait for them to develop enough to be promoted to Raw. A very edgy gimmick in the land of PG but, more importantly, the only tag team apart from the Prime Time Players to have actual personality. Triple H did say he wanted a better tag team division and this is on the right path. Thoughts?

What Would Kevin Do?
06-21-2012, 08:35 PM
The fact that NXT/FCW is up makes me very, very happy.

VSG
06-21-2012, 09:01 PM
You are welcome. There is an Indian site that uploads every single episode of US wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, FCW) and that is my source. Hopefully it will last..

Dukelorange
06-21-2012, 10:19 PM
They look like a good tag team... they have a good look great gimmick, but a weird finisher...

Rollermacka
06-22-2012, 12:41 AM
I like the fact that its a tag team not just two established singles wrestlers. They aren't calling them "evil" so it could work in the PG Era.

Tom Guycott
06-22-2012, 01:26 AM
Has potiential- has that kind of flavor to fill the Undertaker void without being too forced (see Kevin Thorn). I agree with Duke that the Downcast* is kind of wonky, only in that it depends entirely on how well the guy taking it sells it from both parts... especially the jawbreaker. It's not as sloppy as PTP's haphazard doomsday device, but both teams have time to work on that.

I'm kinda geeked to see that they're following through with Braylon Mercy. That gimmick has the potiential to go places much like "the original" could have, and be akin to something cerebral and great; like Raven.




*A plus in it's favor, however is that it IS a named finisher, and JR immediately put that over. Not just a "oh, what was that?" and refering to it as "that move!" for weeks on end. How are Ross and Regal not on Raw or Smackdown?

Heisenberg
06-22-2012, 03:19 AM
Not too bad at all, thanks for posting this.

SlickyTrickyDamon
06-22-2012, 06:59 AM
Don't think Brayy Wyatt lasts too long in a PG WWE. Have a feeling somebody is gonna cry or bitch or moan and he'll be Husky Harris again.

Mr. Nerfect
06-22-2012, 07:12 AM
The gimmick may be dropped quickly, but Windham Rotunda will remain Bray Wyatt and be a major player on RAW or SmackDown! before too long.

I really enjoyed The Ascension on NXT this week. I loved the style they presented them in, and they are a team with personality. I like that they are actually a team that has a common theme, similar aesthetics and a tag team finisher, but still have their different vibes. To compare these guys to The Brood is not unfair at this point. I hope that we get to see them develop into prominent tag team players.

Also, Jim Ross and William Regal were fucking amazing as a commentary duo.

Skippord
06-22-2012, 08:14 AM
They kind of seem like they should be fighting Spiderman.

Mr. Nerfect
06-22-2012, 08:15 AM
I kind of want to see Ascension on the main roster already.

Corporate CockSnogger
06-22-2012, 08:23 AM
I like their music. They look better without the ugly bird with them as well.

VSG
06-22-2012, 08:50 AM
That "ugly bird" is Eddie and Vickie Guerrero's daughter.

Hanso Amore
06-22-2012, 08:57 AM
They will never amount to anything in the WWE.

Corporate CockSnogger
06-22-2012, 08:58 AM
That "ugly bird" is Eddie and Vickie Guerrero's daughter.

Oh, I thought I'd seen pictures of her in the past where was pretty good looking. It might've just been the daft faces she was pulling in those clips while she was trying to look all gothic and stuff.

Hanso Amore
06-22-2012, 08:58 AM
That "ugly bird" is Eddie and Vickie Guerrero's daughter.

So what, that makes her not ugly?

VSG
06-22-2012, 09:04 AM
She is not ugly irl and that post of mine helped Iggy remember who she was. You done?

Dukelorange
06-22-2012, 10:21 AM
Change the finisher... Leave the intro, I love the city scape... The intro video was movie promo quality they should keep that. You can sell tees that have black light effects so the crowd can feel like part of the effect when they arrive in the WWE...

Damn
06-22-2012, 10:29 AM
This reminds me that I miss Eric Esssssscobar!

loopydate
06-22-2012, 10:56 AM
They kind of seem like they should be fighting Spiderman.

I was thinking Batman, but yeah, same thought. During the zoom-over-the-city opening part, I was expecting inspirational words from Michael Caine.

Ultra Mantis
06-22-2012, 11:03 AM
I could easily become a mark for Kenneth Cameron's magic glowing hand. Love the extremely quick tags too.

Of course all of that is irrelevant when your segment is followed by Johnny Curtis.

Rollermacka
06-22-2012, 11:16 AM
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Is it just me or has the WWE made Seth Rollins (Tyler Black) into a CM Punk knock off?

James Steele
06-22-2012, 11:24 AM
I love the idea behind Husky's new character. Hope it sticks.

#BROKEN Hasney
06-22-2012, 12:09 PM
I've already spooged over the Ascension in the NXT thread, but I really really hope that Ricardo gets a bigger speaking role and less comedy in the future. He sells that shit and with a decent explanation as to why he's there when he's Alberto's ring announcer.

Watching the FCW Ascension promo though, it is a real shame that Epico isn't part of the group. It would have been a little re-hash of Edge & Christian by the Ascension coming on Smackdown and Primo trying to save Epico from staying there as one. While I loved the Brood when they were united as Gangrel with both E&C, the Edge and Christian relationship wasn't really done very well before Edge joined. Probably to do with neither man getting speaking time and Gangrel being god-awful on the mic, but they could have done it even better.

Tom Guycott
06-22-2012, 12:12 PM
Is it just me or has the WWE made Seth Rollins (Tyler Black) into a CM Punk knock off?

I noticed that too. The whole "I'm my own man" thing made me chuckle incessantly. Waiting for punk to walk in on one of his promos and say "... you're a poser!" & slap him like he did with "Prince of Punk" Shannon Moore.

#BROKEN Hasney
06-22-2012, 12:16 PM
Kind of enjoyed Raquel being miced up during the match as well.

Volare
06-22-2012, 12:17 PM
Not saying it's ripping off, but the reason why Ascension as attracted me is becuase I used to like watching vids of The Black Family from AAA.

If they put a hot girl with them again, too bad they couldn't use their song.

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Rollermacka
06-22-2012, 12:31 PM
I love the idea behind Husky's new character. Hope it sticks.

Yea, I like the gimmick... but I don't know if Husky is the right guy for it. Personally, I thought he was at his best when he teames with his brother. It would be great to add the Rotundo brothers to the tag team roster too.

CSL
06-22-2012, 12:44 PM
shows what the WWE machine can do for a guy, Kenneth Cameron was a bland indy claps babyface with shit hair named Brandon T a year or two ago. Fair play to him

VSG
06-22-2012, 01:11 PM
Don't forget the Rat Man Conor O'Brian

Volare
06-22-2012, 01:17 PM
Oh god, I could see him coming out and beating the shit out of Alberto bringing that back as a storyline.

drmayberry7
06-22-2012, 02:47 PM
Is it just me or has the WWE made Seth Rollins (Tyler Black) into a CM Punk knock off?
I noticed that too

Tazz Dan
06-22-2012, 06:15 PM
Haven't people been making that comparison for a while now?

CSL
06-22-2012, 06:26 PM
pretty dumb comparison, "alt guy who has something resembling a vocabulary, must be Punk"

SlickyTrickyDamon
06-22-2012, 06:30 PM
He also looks like him at least when Punk started.

CSL
06-22-2012, 06:31 PM
don't see that either, Punk used to dye (all of) his hair blonde and had a bit of facial hair, other than that they look nothing alike

Juan
06-22-2012, 06:44 PM
Yeah I don't really see it either

Mr. Nerfect
06-22-2012, 08:00 PM
He has got a similar style to CM Punk, in that he's got that indy alternative guy look -- but he actually reminded me more of Jeff Hardy in his promo.

CSL
06-22-2012, 10:21 PM
his similarity to Jeff is basically my entire reasoning for claiming for god knows how long that he'll get over big time once he gets on TV properly (good looking alt guy that birds will cream over but blokes will also find "cool", weak promos but "unique"/a bit out there, good in the ring etc)

Tazz Dan
06-22-2012, 10:54 PM
pretty dumb comparison, "alt guy who has something resembling a vocabulary, must be Punk"

Yeah I wasn't agreeing with it, but obviously some people find the smallest things to make the biggest similarities.

Tom Guycott
06-23-2012, 01:27 AM
It didn't strike me so much as a "similarity" as much as it seems like WWE decided to "rip off" Punk and act like it was a new character idea they just thought up. That happens a lot in a business where everything old is new again (like the afore mentioned Bray Wyatt), but sometimes it's a little too soon and a little too similar.

It would be like if, say, Sydal came in for his trial match, but instead of being changed to Evan Bourne, they gave him a name like Jett Hershey and have him parade around in dayglow facepaint and still be a high-flying spot-monkey... about the same time as Jeff Hardy was feuding with Punk. Matt Sydal looks nothing like Jeff, but the gimmick would be too similar too soon.

#BROKEN Hasney
06-23-2012, 03:36 AM
[COLOR="White"]weak promos but "unique"

Admittedly only really seen the NXT promo from him, but that seemed pretty good. In the comparison to Jeff Hardy, it was as good as 30 Jeff Hardy's combined promo skills.

Skippord
06-23-2012, 05:52 AM
I'm a huge fan of Tyler Black, but he kind of sounds like a muppet when he gets angry to me. Nothing like that cool British guy.

VSG
06-23-2012, 07:44 AM
Thanks for discussing all this in the proper place, guys!

#BROKEN Hasney
06-23-2012, 07:57 AM
How DARE a conversation go off on a tangent. That would never happen in real life!

VSG
06-23-2012, 08:24 AM
This is not real life, no matter how much some people wish it to be!

Skippord
06-23-2012, 08:27 AM
I was thinking Batman, but yeah, same thought. During the zoom-over-the-city opening part, I was expecting inspirational words from Michael Caine.
I thought Spiderman from the way the city looked in the zoom-over. Like the city from the 90's Animated Series

VSG
06-23-2012, 08:29 AM
Skippord knows what's up.

#BROKEN Hasney
06-23-2012, 09:48 AM
I thought Spiderman from the way the city looked in the zoom-over. Like the city from the 90's Animated Series

You know, The Amazing Spiderman is looking alright. I wasn't expecting it and quite looking forward to it now.

Gonna play the game later today I reckon.

VSG
06-23-2012, 09:50 AM
Need to see if they got it for PC. That trailer looked good.

#BROKEN Hasney
06-23-2012, 09:51 AM
Don't think so. It's not on Steam anyway

VSG
06-23-2012, 09:57 AM
Ya, just checked myself. They got it for Wii and Nintendo DS/3DS but not PC. That's a shame.

Mr. Nerfect
06-23-2012, 07:50 PM
They should give Seth Rollins "This Fire Burns" as an entrance theme. That way people can talk about the similarities between Rollins and Randy Orton. :shifty:

Mr. Nerfect
06-23-2012, 07:51 PM
Admittedly only really seen the NXT promo from him, but that seemed pretty good. In the comparison to Jeff Hardy, it was as good as 30 Jeff Hardy's combined promo skills.

Agreed. I was expecting Rollins' talking to be atrocious, but it wasn't that bad really. He's not exactly a promo guy by all reports, but as CSL has pointed out -- he doesn't need to be.

CSL
06-23-2012, 10:43 PM
Admittedly only really seen the NXT promo from him, but that seemed pretty good. In the comparison to Jeff Hardy, it was as good as 30 Jeff Hardy's combined promo skills.

yeah, the NXT one was fine but you can cover stuff like that with pretapes, like Jeff's "Joker" promos when he got the shove around 2008. He'll struggle/"not excel" with a live mic in front of a RAW crowd with the top guys if he doesn't make an effort to change that but I don't know how much it will matter if they look after him/play to his strengths.

Tom Guycott
06-24-2012, 12:14 AM
How DARE a conversation go off on a tangent. That would never happen in real life!

This is not real life, no matter how much some people wish it to be!



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"This is real life here, fans."

Nicky Fives
06-24-2012, 08:26 AM
Kenneth Cameron looks really good.....

whiteyford
06-24-2012, 08:29 AM
Clearly a squash match but liked what i saw, love the quick tags and an actual tag finisher.

XCaliber
06-24-2012, 06:15 PM
Glad to see Connor O'Brian back on the show dude and got talent now they've finally given him a decent gimmick hopefully it gets him on the main roster eventually I could see this stable being huge like The Brood.