How would you feel if Tyson Kidd was WWE or World Champion?

[Rollermacka]

He's around the same size as ol' goat face and he's gaining some momentum. How would you feel if Tyson Kidd wins the WWE or World Champion in the not to distant future?

[Kapoutman]

If they build him up properly before giving him the belt, sure. I think we're past the time where being WWE or World Champion meant that you were the main-eventer or on top of the business. Anybody can be champ now, and they proved it with Miz, Khali, Swagger (as much as it pains me to say), etc.

Hell, I almost thought they were considering Santino for a World title shot for a while. Nobody would surprise me anymore.

[CSL]

"somewhat bemused"

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Pretty much what Kapoutman said. There isn't anybody that would be a surprising candidate for them to put the title on anymore. I mean sure if they just had Kidd beat Punk or Sheamus like next week or something it'd be a shock, but not on the same level as say if X-Pac would've beat The Rock years ago or something.

In fact, had the title situation been how it is now back in the Attitude Era, X-Pac probably would've got a run with the belt.

[Skippord]

I would feel excited about it

[Gonzo]

I think if they built it up right, why not? But that's what we know likely wouldn't happen.

[Joesgonnakillyou]

I'd be quite happy with it, then grow more and more uneasy as I realise the rest of the 'universe' doesn't feel the same way...

[whiteyford]

I'd be over the moon if they did it next week and he held it till the end of the pool as a fighting champion. Otherwise as long as he's built up I don't see a problem with it, he's more than a solid worker and really the only issue I can see is his mic work, which isn't that terrible.

[Lock Jaw]

If he was built up, I would love it.

If he were given the all too frequent "Let's give him a title and THEN try to get him over" push, then I say nay. Too much of that.

[Kane Knight]

Fairly indifferent.

[CSL]

he has the personality of a bin bag, he could be pushed like Brock Lesnar and he probably wouldn't get over, I don't think there is any "building up" to be done. Given just how good he is bell to bell, if he had absolutely anything else, I'm fairly sure we'd have seen it by now (not to mention "the office", who'd have seen it a long time before that)

[Kane Knight]

By the way, is Ol' Goat Face still getting just about zero reaction?

[whiteyford]

In fairness he's rarely granted the chance to showcase any personallity because ponies.

[Dukelorange]

Well, in my WWE 12 universe, Kidd won the WHC in the Elimination Chamber and held it for about six months...

[Kane Knight]

In fairness he's rarely granted the chance to showcase any personallity because he's not a 6'6" stud with chiseled abs or a freak show physique and a spray-on tan.

[whiteyford]

I thought because ponies summed it up nicely.

[RiX1024]

Tyson Kidd as a champion....meh.

[Heisenberg]

Hope I'm wrong, because he's a great talent, but Tyson Kidd's push looks to be just for MITB.

The good permanent thing is that they are pushing alot of talent right now to fill the 3 hour Raws that will take a lot more talent and storylines to keep ppl glued to the screen.

[Nicky Fives]

I'd be very happy.....

[Emperor Smeat]

Unless they built him really well or follows a route similar to Bryan in how he managed to get popular from the YES! chants, feel all the WWE would do for his reign is something similar to Rey as champion where he's always the underdog or a weakling.

[VSG]

Amused at best.

[#1-norm-fan]

With the right booking, I don't think there's many people on the roster who are completely not capable of being champion. Some are just easier to book as a believable champ than others. Much, much easier.

[Team Sheep]

Right now, I'd find it ridiculous. But then I thought the same about Daniel Bryan, Jack Swagger, The Miz, Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes etc. WWE do a good job of convincing me when they want to.

[Pintint]

He's around the same size as ol' goat face and he's gaining some momentum. How would you feel if Tyson Kidd wins the WWE or World Champion in the not to distant future?

Surprised, but bored. I don't think he has the charisma to be at that level. Dont want any more vanilla wrestlers being WHC/WWC

[GD]

Tyson Kidd is an amazing talent and a wonderful human being. If he is booked correctly, I will accept him as my WWE Champion or World Heavyweight Champion or even both.

[dronepool]

Eh, he'd have to win me over until then I wouldn't care.

[GD]

If they build him up properly before giving him the belt, sure. I think we're past the time where being WWE or World Champion meant that you were the main-eventer or on top of the business. Anybody can be champ now, and they proved it with Miz, Khali, Swagger (as much as it pains me to say), etc.

Hell, I almost thought they were considering Santino for a World title shot for a while. Nobody would surprise me anymore.

Dear Kapoutman, Miz was not a bad champion. Jack Swagger's reign was exceptional and Khali's reign was a huge hit in South Asia (do you know how proud I felt when he became the first Indian to win the World Heavyweight Championship? Not saying it was a good reign).

[GD]

Eh, he'd have to win me over until then I wouldn't care.

I hear he listens to Marilyn Manson.

[dronepool]

I hear he listens to Marilyn Manson.

Listening to any artist won't help his lack of build up and generic look.

[GD]

I hear he likes take a picture of himself right now.

[Shisen Kopf]

World HEAVYWEIGHT champion? Dude better start taking his beefcake 4000

[dronepool]

I hear he likes take a picture of himself right now.

Naked in the mirror, while pretending to be Triple H.

[Keith]

I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as they pushed him correctly, gave him some kind of a gimmick, etc.

He's solid in the ring, so all he needs is some mic time in order to develop a character.

[Tom Guycott]

With the right booking, I don't think there's many people on the roster who are completely not capable of being champion. Some are just easier to book as a believable champ than others. Much, much easier.

:y:

As it stands, he'd need a mouthpiece and/or LOTS of practice on the stick (to be fair, he's still better than, say Brock Lesnar... who has gotten better than he used to be, but still). We pretty much know he's the goods in the ring, he just needs that spark to connect with the audience.

Kidd strikes me as someone that, if they decide to push him that far, will chase the heel champ for a few PPVs who will carry the heavy lifting talkwise (sake of argument: Cody Rhodes) and *just* lose each time via chicanery.

[Keith]

Sometimes I think of what it'd be like if WWE took guys Tyson Kidd, Jack Swagger and Primo (just to name a few), and put them in a stable led by Paul Heyman.

[#1-norm-fan]

Jack Swagger's reign was exceptional

Wait, what?

[Keith]

Exceptionally insignificant.

[DLVH84]

I'd say about damn time. Chalk up one more for the Dungeon.

[stultiloquy]

Was never a fan....he's fairly solid in the ring, but his look and personality is as drab as can be; he reminds me of the 'Default' guy you see every time you open up the CAW mode in a wrestling game.

[#1-norm-fan]

He's great in the ring. In his current state he's more suited as the guy who just puts on stellar matches on the undercard though. Makes me wish WWE would bring back the cruiserweight division/title so Tyson Kidd, PAC, Yoshi Tatsu, Trent Barreta, Sin Cara, Evan Bourne and Justin Gabriel can all actually have something to fight for and don't have to win world titles to do things of note.

There's so much pointless filler on PPVs now because the writers don't want to put in the effort to build a full card. Beginning PPVs with even a BARELY built up cruiserweight title match would do wonders and guys like Kidd and Gabriel and the like who are really good but too small to always be in there with the main guys are suddenly relevant.

[#1-norm-fan]

As I typed out those names, I realized how ridiculously fucking good a WWE cruiserweight division would be without them even needing to sign anyone else and just using the guys sitting on the roster not really doing anything.

[Kane Knight]

I thought because ponies summed it up nicely.

I am the arbiter of ponies!

[Gertner]

Love Tyson Kidd. But, God no. Unless this company wants to turn into ROH and fold in a few months. Then no.

[XCaliber]

Wouldn't really give a damn as great as a wrestler her is he's not particularly that good on the mic and hasn't even proven himself as a minor champion yet.

[Kapoutman]

Dear Kapoutman, Miz was not a bad champion. Jack Swagger's reign was exceptional and Khali's reign was a huge hit in South Asia (do you know how proud I felt when he became the first Indian to win the World Heavyweight Championship? Not saying it was a good reign).

Dear Guru Dave,

as one of the biggest Jack Swagger marks on this forum, even I can tell you that his reign was abysmal. The quality of matches was very watchable, but the crowd reaction was not there. Great Khali's reign might have been big in South Asia, but it still does not mean it was good. The rest of the world sat on their ass and waited for someone who could save them from boredom while Khali very slowly crawled his way through a championship reign.

Finally, I never was a big fan of The Miz, and his title reign did not change that fact. Miz had about two interesting matches in his 4-5 months reign (one with Morrison, the other one I don't even know. I'm just guessing he must have had another good match). Miz needs to understand that talking very slowly and repeating cliches do not make for an interesting promo. He sometimes showed flashes of greatness, like when he told the story of his way from being disrespected to being a champion, but otherwise, he was just coming across as Diet Chris Jericho.

Sincerely,

Kapoutman

[GD]

You are correct. But I genuinely feel that Jack Swagger is given more shit than he deserves for his title reign. Khali was a horrible champion but helped bring in a new (huge) audience to the double double e. I have always been critical of The Miz but even I admit that his reign was interesting and entertaining.

[dingdongyo]

put a mask on him. this is my answer to everything. and it's right.

[Mr. Nerfect]

In the right circumstances, I could buy it. For example: A heel Dolph Ziggler, as World Heavyweight Champion, is tearing down Bret "The Hitman" Hart -- who is doing a special guest spot -- in Calgary. Ziggler tells him that he is a nobody and his greatest achievement was getting beaten by Shawn Michaels. Bret slaps Dolph, so Dolph decides it's time to hurt Bret. Tyson Kidd runs in to protect his mentor from any attack, and Dolph accuses Hart of hiding behind his students. Dolph says that he could out-shine anything that came from Calgary any day of the week. So Bret challenges Dolph on behalf of Kidd, who has a smug look on his face like "Yeah, I know I can beat this guy." Dolph accepts the challenge and is then cleaned out effortlessly by Kidd.

The main event would be exactly what you expect between these two men, with Kidd fighting out from underneath Ziggler's heel tactics. Kidd manages to make a comeback, and it looks several times as if he's got the World Title in hand, but Ziggler keeps on fighting and then looks to put Kidd away with his own version of the Sharpshooter. Kidd manages to counter that and finally hooks in The Dungeon Lock. Dolph as nowhere to go, but Michael Cole refuses to accept that this could be it. Dolph does tap, however, and Kidd is the new World Heavyweight Champion! Kidd celebrating with Bret Hart in Calgary over someone who just tore their city to pieces would get over huge. Dolph would get his rematches, and make his excuses, and would probably eventually get the title back (let's say in a Ladder Match down the line with shenanigans), but it would be a nice little moment for Kidd.

[Mr. Nerfect]

At the moment, however, I feel that a mid-card title reign is far more appropriate for Kidd. I still haven't given up on my idea of a Tyson Kidd/Sin Cara tag team. Kidd is phenomenal in the ring, and could really help Sin Cara adapt to the new WWE style. Kidd does have a standing partnership with Justin Gabriel, though. Man, I'm just imagining a Tyson Kidd & Justin Gabriel vs. Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara match. That could really help Kidd, Gabriel & Sin Cara, actually.

Another option is for Daniel Bryan to win the Intercontinental Title from Christian in the coming weeks, and after dispatching of him a few more times, moves into a program with Kidd over the IC Title. Bryan has spoken up about Kidd being a misused talent, so would surely not mind working with him. Bryan is over as a character, and could really help put over Kidd.

The third option I'm thinking is Chris Jericho. A Jericho/Kidd tag team or rivalry would really help out Kidd. If Kidd can't get over while working with Jericho, then you'd get a clear indication that he's a mid-card guy at best for now. But who knows -- it could help transition Kidd onto bigger and better things.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, Jack Swagger's World Title reign was immensely entertaining. I don't understand the hatred for it. SmackDown was so good with its Ballroom Dancing Champion carrying the show.

[Ultra Mantis]

Swagger was quite entertaining as champion, most notably dragging Rey Mysterio through the entire arena by his ankle and his swaggie sandwich / sausage fingers trophy promo. The reason why the audience didn't give a shit was because he was jobbing to Santino in comedy segments directly before winning MITB and then became "slow talking heel in a suit #5" as soon as he cashed in. It didn't help that he won the belt off Jericho himself and Miz was balls deep into his poor mans Jericho gimmick over on Raw.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I still think that Swagger should have been the guy to have won Jesse Ventura's "Breakout Battle Royal" and become WWE Champion at TLC in 2009.

But Ultra Mantis is correct -- Swagger was de-pushed and was literally losing to Santino Marella every week. His win came out of nowhere. I also felt that Jericho being the one to drop the World Title to Swagger was weird. Wouldn't it have been more natural for Edge to have beaten Jericho and then Swagger to cash in on Edge? Swagger and Edge could have then feuded for a bit until Edge ended up changing shows.

[St. Jimmy]

I like indy wrestling and indy wrestlers and I don't get the love for Tyson Kidd. He's average at best.

[Kane Knight]

I like indy wrestling and indy wrestlers and I don't get the love for Tyson Kidd. He's average at best.

Of course he is. He's an indie wrestler.

[Kane Knight]

":shifty:"