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I have never, in my nearly 30 years of watching wrestling, cared one bit for ANY of Jeff Jarretts work, angles, or promos. I find him obvious and sometimes to the point of getting angry that I even have the TV turned on. I would rather watch a gilberg match.
So here is my question and reason for post:
I wish someone could show me something Jeff Jarrett did that is considered his best work in case I somehow over looked it.
Only time I really enjoyed/not minded Jeff Jarrett was in his tag team with Owen Hart.
Supreme Olajuwon
07-20-2012, 12:48 AM
I liked his mid card days in the WWF. His team with Owen Hart was good. Never took him seriously as a main eventer in WCW though.
Supreme Olajuwon
07-20-2012, 12:49 AM
Also:
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Keith
07-20-2012, 01:11 AM
The only time I cared about Jeff Jarrett was when he'd come out dressed like this:
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Was that the time he had all the lights on himself and fought road dogg?
Jarrett was over huge in USWA, especially when feuding with Jerry Lawler in the mid 1990s. As with other NWA stars signed by the then-WWF, WWE essentially killed Jarrett's heat by repacking him into an obnoxious character.
I really think that with his "Don't p*ss me off" gimmick and the accompanying t-shirt, Attitude-Era Jarrett could have been the second "working man's" antihero after Stone Cold (if not for the badly booked misogynistic angle they thrust him into to put over Chyna when it was decided that Chyna should not win the WWE World Title and hence should defeat the IC Champ instead -- not to mention his holding out for more money before the 1999 No Mercy PPV, thereby preventing subsequent stints in the WWE).
James Steele
07-20-2012, 02:26 AM
I will say this: Jeff Jarrett is "good" in every aspect of pro wrestling, but he isn't "great" at anything and has nothing about him that makes him a main event must-see superstar. This explains why he is an amazing IC/US Champion type guy and occasional main event tease but never taken seriously as a legitimate main event star/draw.
Keith
07-20-2012, 02:45 AM
I will also say that Jeff Jarrett should never have been WCW Champion.
Lock Jaw
07-20-2012, 02:51 AM
I enjoyed Jarrett's main event run in WCW, with his whole "slapnuts" deal. I remember absolutely nothing of it now, but I remember enjoying it well enough.
Vastardikai
07-20-2012, 04:00 AM
I will say this: Jeff Jarrett is "good" in every aspect of pro wrestling, but he isn't "great" at anything and has nothing about him that makes him a main event must-see superstar. This explains why he is an amazing IC/US Champion type guy and occasional main event tease but never taken seriously as a legitimate main event star/draw.
This.
He's a good hand in the ring, a decent talker, had a decent look. A good second tier guy. Not a top guy. They tried it in WCW, and how well is WCW doing? Exactly.
Hence why I always said "Any promotion built around Jeff Jarrett deserves to fail."
Razzamajazz
07-20-2012, 04:47 AM
wasn't it him and debra together when the whole "puppies" thing started? if so, then that
Keith
07-20-2012, 05:24 AM
Come to think of it, my favorite Jeff Jarrett moment was when he broke a guitar over Gary Coleman's head.
Corporate CockSnogger
07-20-2012, 06:15 AM
Was one of the first heels that I really liked when I was younger during his WWF run, and then I loved him in WCW.
Corporate CockSnogger
07-20-2012, 06:19 AM
Also the guitar is probably one of my favourite weapons in wrestling. Looks great every time.
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Keith
07-20-2012, 06:39 AM
Jeff Jarrett main eventing, and being Champion, helped kill WCW.
Corporate CockSnogger
07-20-2012, 06:40 AM
Looks like we got a slapnut over here.
Shadrick
07-20-2012, 07:31 AM
I've never been a fan of Jeff Jarrett.
Feed me!
07-20-2012, 10:10 AM
They should bring jj in for ryback to squash, would be awesome. Wooooo!
Big Vic
07-20-2012, 10:21 AM
Jeff Jarret should never been a world champ in any organization.
YOUR Hero
07-20-2012, 10:27 AM
He waas ok, had some pretty entertining moments with Owen and the Double J thing when he first came out was good.
Kapoutman
07-20-2012, 10:48 AM
Chalk me up as another fan of the Owen/Jarrett combo. Outside of that, he was decent in the ring, just never spectacular. He could have good matches with the right opponent. I remember an In Your House match against Shawn Michaels that was pretty exciting.
itsmeJD
07-20-2012, 10:49 AM
"Be my baby tonight" was obviously the correct answer here....Jesse James lip synched that shit to hide Jeff's true singing ability.
Hate Jarrett, always have. Just found him to be average in the ring, and annoying (and not in a "haha, he's supposed to be" way) on the mic.
about 18 months ago, Jarrett was the most entertaining heel in wrestling
Corporate CockSnogger
07-20-2012, 12:51 PM
Was he still calling people slapnuts?
Corporate CockSnogger
07-20-2012, 01:06 PM
Still hitting people with guitars at least? :'(
Corporate CockSnogger
07-20-2012, 01:08 PM
Link me to some good stuff he did if you get the time please. I might declare myself TPWW's #1 Jeff Jarrett fan if there's no other takers.
Keith
07-20-2012, 01:16 PM
about 18 months ago, Jarrett was the most entertaining heel in wrestling
Come on now, brah.
were you watching TNA 18 months ago?
Supreme Olajuwon
07-20-2012, 01:35 PM
Oh yeah I forgot about the feud with Angle. That was good stuff. And I'm super dumb because I was actually at Lockdown when they had their 2 out of 3 falls match which stole the show.
Link me to some good stuff he did if you get the time please. I might declare myself TPWW's #1 Jeff Jarrett fan if there's no other takers.
Jeff Jarrett - MMA Fighter (towards the end of his feud with Samoa Joe based around "shoot fighting" etc featuring the Double J Double M A Challenge)
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which evolved into a feud with Angle (Angle's wrestling/non-starting MMA past, being married to Karen, banned Kurt from seeing his kids etc)
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grabbed these from the TNA Youtube channel quickly, probably more stuff knocking around and this lot doesn't really do it justice, lot's of "little things" on various Impacts and PPV's. The One Big Happy Family skits with Kurt's kids, framed pictures of Jarrett breaking guitars over Angle's head etc are great.
Keith
07-20-2012, 04:11 PM
were you watching TNA 18 months ago?
I didn't even watch TNA last night.
But regardless, no one ever said "Let me tune into WWF (or WCW, or TNA), 'cause I want to see what Jeff Jarrett does next".
Keith
07-20-2012, 04:17 PM
Oh, you mean when Jeff Jarrett all of a sudden became a Mixed Martial Artist and was doing MMA challenges?
That was quality tv right there, yo.
another brilliant and informative response
irishmaster
07-20-2012, 04:28 PM
about 18 months ago, Jarrett was the most entertaining heel in wrestling
I didnt sell out, I bought in!!
Him joining Immortal was a fantastic storyline at the time
lol that was Hardy
who was great at that time too though, probably the most interesting he's ever been from a character p.o.v
Emperor Smeat
07-20-2012, 04:39 PM
Liked most of his work when it wasn't main event scene stuff but did tolerate him a bit more in the main event of TNA than in WCW. His stuff with Owen might have been the best stuff he's done in either WWE or WCW.
Him being a dominate heel in TNA wasn't that bad but him hogging the belt mimicking what Triple H was doing on RAW didn't help at all.
Didn't like anything he did in WCW since WCW already had enough big names for the main event scene and their developing stars were a lot more enjoyable than him in the main event.
James Steele
07-20-2012, 04:40 PM
Jeff Jarrett did have a hell of a run with hilarious shit during that time. The kids dancing to his theme in their living room, the MMA challenges, the whole Mexican Champion deal, etc. Jeff Jarrett is good and has had some awesome work, but he isn't someone I'd consider a legitimate "main event/top tier I have to pay to see him work" superstar like I said earlier. In a lot of ways, he is like a redneck Christian...or is Christian a Canadian Jeff Jarrett with more high spots?
James Steele
07-20-2012, 04:43 PM
To clarify, I think Jeff Jarrett is/was good enough to have a token title run or two but his run in WCW and especially in TNA were ridiculous.
Keith
07-20-2012, 04:46 PM
Jeff Jarrett is the kind of guy who you kinda "stumble upon" on tv. Meaning, you don't tune in to watch him, but when he comes on, he can have a good match.
In the 90's, for some time, Razor Ramon (Scott Hall) was the guy WWF used to kinda "gauge" if a guy had what it took to go up to the main event scene, where guys like Bret Hart and Diesel (Kevin Nash) resided.
When it came Jeff Jarrett's turn to see what he had, he had a good feud with Razor, even became Intercontinental Champion, but never made it to the top, to the main event scene.
But he got his chance in 1995. Back then (and for a couple more years after), the guy who became Intercontinental Champion more often than not was able to then go up and wrestler for the WWF Title, and guys who were former IC Champions, like Bret Hart, Diesel, HBK, Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H (just to name a few) eventually won the big one.
But Jarrett never did.
Corporate CockSnogger
07-20-2012, 04:52 PM
So he wasn't on the level of those guys, what's your point? Not many people are on that level.
Keith
07-20-2012, 04:53 PM
You're making my point for me.
He's not on the level with any of those guys.
Corporate CockSnogger
07-20-2012, 04:54 PM
And what's your point? Pretty much nobody currenty in WWE bar Cena is on the same level of those mentioned.
Keith
07-20-2012, 04:55 PM
We're discussing Jeff Jarrett.
Corporate CockSnogger
07-20-2012, 04:57 PM
So your entire point is that Jeff Jarrett isn't one of the all time top level greats then? Is that it? That's your entire input into this discussion?
Keith
07-20-2012, 05:01 PM
Don't dismiss my observations just because you happen to disagree, sir.
Tazz Dan
07-20-2012, 05:25 PM
Always had a soft spot for Jarrett. Was a fan of him and Owen, and I enjoyed his wcw run.
Corporate CockSnogger
07-20-2012, 05:29 PM
Don't dismiss my observations just because you happen to disagree, sir.
I don't disagree. Still not really sure what you were getting at but whatevzzz
Always had a soft spot for Jarrett. Was a fan of him and Owen, and I enjoyed his wcw run.
Always knew you were smarter than you looked.
You're making my point for me.
He's not on the level with any of those guys.
and nobody claimed he was or thinks he is. You aren't making any kind of point. It's like going into a thread asking for good stuff from [insert any of the 3 million wrestlers ever that haven't reached the very pinnacle] and saying "well he's not The Rock" and that's it. It's entirely irrelevant.
Don't dismiss my observations just because you happen to disagree, sir.
he didn't disagree. Your "observation" was akin to "the sky is blue".
Jordan
07-20-2012, 07:50 PM
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DLVH84
07-20-2012, 11:47 PM
Well, to be fair, Jeff has done a little bit better since taking a hiatus after the 2006 Bound For Glory. And business-wise, Jeff has been expanding TNA with Ring Ka King in India and possibly forming another promotion somewhere in South America.
Nicky Fives
07-21-2012, 06:52 PM
I always liked Jarrett.... he isn't the best in the world, but he's great in my books....
RiX1024
07-23-2012, 04:21 PM
Never a fan of him, good midcarder, idk why the hell they pushed him as a main eventer in WCW, plus most of his matches was too repetitive.
Damndirty
07-23-2012, 04:38 PM
As one of those people who are only good for getting their ass royally kicked, I give him kudos for that at least. The night Austin stunned him twice was well worth the tv time!
NormanSmiley
07-24-2012, 01:35 PM
didn't jarrett have quite the ego though where he did think he was top shelf liquor? his first WWF gimmick sucked, his first wcw run sucked, his attire with sunglasses and a country guitar were oil and water. slapnuts was about the only credible thing he ever came up with.
whiteyford
07-24-2012, 06:17 PM
I enjoyed him more often than not, he put on decent matches and could cut a decent promo but I wouldn't go out of my way to watch his stuff, alot of his later TNA was gold though.
Rollermacka
07-24-2012, 08:23 PM
I'll say this, I prefered Jeff Jarrett in WCW 2000 rather than another Hulk Hogan vs Ric Flair match. I think Jarrett is solid, and is easily hateable as a heel. I loved his feud in 2006 with Sting, which lead to honestly one of my favorite matches of all time
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Autobahn
07-25-2012, 09:32 AM
I enjoyed Jarrett's main event run in WCW, with his whole "slapnuts" deal.
I liked slapnuts era Jarrett as well. Felt fresh when he became champion (even though it was debatable as to whether he was any good as champion).
Nothing else with Jarrett really stands out apart from that...except the Owen combo which was good.
Hanso Amore
07-25-2012, 09:47 AM
LOL at the Muties claiming Jarrett as champ killed wCw. That company was dead before he even debuted.
And Keith looking like a master debater in this thread.
Hanso Amore
07-25-2012, 09:51 AM
I think if Jarrett retired after wCw people wouldnt have some much "shit" to say about him.
But he started his own company, made himself a HHH like master of the world for 4 years and it flopped. People always wanted TNA to take off and be a threat to the WWE, and Jarrett was the man there. When it failed, they put it all on him, and now talk "ALL KINDS OF SHIT" about him.
Jarrett was a decent Heel in WCW during a time of a weak roster. Its hard to solidy yourself in that sinking ship.
I dont remember anyone dogging him as a Main eventer in wCw since he was a "Mid Carder in the WWE". Flip that around the other way, and wCw mid carder Chris Jericho became the first Undisputed champion.
Joesgonnakillyou
07-25-2012, 12:34 PM
Everyone's being a little harsh on Keith here...
parkmania
07-25-2012, 04:11 PM
Look at all the talent in the ring here:
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Foley looks in shape!
Jeff Jarrett is the kind of guy who you kinda "stumble upon" on tv. Meaning, you don't tune in to watch him, but when he comes on, he can have a good match.
In the 90's, for some time, Razor Ramon (Scott Hall) was the guy WWF used to kinda "gauge" if a guy had what it took to go up to the main event scene, where guys like Bret Hart and Diesel (Kevin Nash) resided.
When it came Jeff Jarrett's turn to see what he had, he had a good feud with Razor, even became Intercontinental Champion, but never made it to the top, to the main event scene.
But he got his chance in 1995. Back then (and for a couple more years after), the guy who became Intercontinental Champion more often than not was able to then go up and wrestler for the WWF Title, and guys who were former IC Champions, like Bret Hart, Diesel, HBK, Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H (just to name a few) eventually won the big one.
But Jarrett never did.
Yeah, I guess the IC title meant you had a 50% chance of winning the WWE Title. Roddy Piper, The Mountie, Mr. Perfect, Goldust, Ken Shamrock, Ahmed Johnson, D'Lo Brown, Val Venis, Godfather, and Chyna are a few of the IC champs from the 1990s who never had a WWE Title run, although for the last four it might be chalked up to the IC Title being somewhat less prestigious by then due to Russonian booking of bouncing the title around the midcard.
Yeah, I guess the IC title meant you had a 50% chance of winning the WWE Title. Roddy Piper, The Mountie, Mr. Perfect, Goldust, Ken Shamrock, Ahmed Johnson, D'Lo Brown, Val Venis, Godfather, and Chyna are a few of the IC champs from the 1990s who never had a WWE Title run, although for the last four it might be chalked up to the IC Title being somewhat less prestigious by then due to Russonian booking of bouncing the title around the midcard.
"Russonian"
I like that word, we should use it.
"That's some russonian booking on Smackdown lately!" etc
DLVH84
07-30-2012, 03:51 PM
I think Jeff Jarrett has matured quite a bit since the 2006 Bound For Glory match with Sting, taking time off. Since then, he hasn't been on a main event or a World title match on PPV or TV very often since. Seems like he has voluntarily stepped back a bit, going down the card a little, kinda like Giant Baba did.
James Steele
07-30-2012, 04:56 PM
I think Jeff Jarrett has matured quite a bit since the 2006 Bound For Glory match with Sting, taking time off. Since then, he hasn't been on a main event or a World title match on PPV or TV very often since. Seems like he has voluntarily stepped back a bit, going down the card a little, kinda like Giant Baba did.
You don't think that has anything to do with him NOT OWNING THE FUCKING COMPANY anymore do you? Panda completely bought out TNA from Jarrett in 2009, so I imagine he saw that coming down the pike.
"Russonian"
I like that word, we should use it.
"That's some russonian booking on Smackdown lately!" etc
Thanks, D. I was surprised that a similar adjective had not been popularized here yet.
While on the subject, if I had to pick a non-wrestling television program writer to compare to Russo, I would choose Chris Carter because he wrote the X-Files to have hotshot booking which never really tied together much in the end. The X-Files claimed to have a series-long arc, but most of it was just the angle of the week, rarely having coherence even within a season.
It reminds me of how Russo would launch into angles without any build-up or long-term repercussions. The overuse of vacating titles as an excuse to have tournaments, esp. the "reboot," reminded me of too many cooks in the franchise, yet it was all from one guy!
DLVH84
07-31-2012, 11:42 AM
You don't think that has anything to do with him NOT OWNING THE FUCKING COMPANY anymore do you? Panda completely bought out TNA from Jarrett in 2009, so I imagine he saw that coming down the pike.
No, because he started to step down the card a little when he returned in 2007.
James Steele
07-31-2012, 01:11 PM
Panda completely bought out TNA from Jarrett in 2009, so I imagine he saw that coming down the pike.
James Steele
07-31-2012, 01:11 PM
Jeff Jarrett knows he will never be able to go to WWE because he held Vince McMahon up for money when he left in 99, so Jarrett had to make sure he secured a spot in the good graces of TNA and everyone who could potentially end up being his boss.
Crimson
07-31-2012, 01:56 PM
I enjoyed him, he was a very good heel. Especially when he started putting various women in his figure four.
Rollermacka
07-31-2012, 04:04 PM
Jeff Jarrett knows he will never be able to go to WWE because he held Vince McMahon up for money when he left in 99, so Jarrett had to make sure he secured a spot in the good graces of TNA and everyone who could potentially end up being his boss.
"Secured a spot in th good graces of TNA" didn't him and his dad start TNA? I wouldn't call that securing a spot.
Side note, even if he didn't hold up the WWE for money in 99 I can't see him going back to the WWE now after starting a rival company. Pretty much because he's no "Eric Bischoff"
James Steele
07-31-2012, 04:43 PM
"Secured a spot in th good graces of TNA" didn't him and his dad start TNA? I wouldn't call that securing a spot.
Side note, even if he didn't hold up the WWE for money in 99 I can't see him going back to the WWE now after starting a rival company. Pretty much because he's no "Eric Bischoff"
He was being bought out, though. How often does one company buying another out end well for those getting bought out?
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