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I was, I think I'm underwhelmed and a little angry that I figured out who she was before this episode. There is a nice twist but all of this lacks punch for some reason.
I am "ok" with the reveal- it had to be someone already in the series given the super lack of character development and there's only so many times you can bring the Daleks and Cybermen back. Oh wait...
Yeah, that's part of my complaint I was like the Cybermen really suddenly I feel like I've already seen this.
I mean I like them but the Doctor needs some more sworn enemies or maybe just a bigger rotation in his rogues gallery.
El Vaquero de Infierno
11-02-2014, 08:02 AM
Well, The Master regenerating/however-they-have-brought-the-character-back as a woman leaves the door open for any future Doctors being female.
Yeah, that's part of my complaint I was like the Cybermen really suddenly I feel like I've already seen this.
I mean I like them but the Doctor needs some more sworn enemies or maybe just a bigger rotation in his rogues gallery.
Would have been a nice reveal if they hadn't shown the Cybermen in the trailer.
Outsider
11-02-2014, 07:42 PM
Am waiting to see what they do next week before passing too much judgement on the whole Missy thing. I don't get the references to 'my Boyfriend' in Deep Breath and the kiss and some of the other comments that Missy has made, but there is still time to explain some of that so we shall see.
I knew Missy had something to do with the Cybermen, as I passed her walking to filming a few months ago.
Still think I can spoil the end of the series. It ends with an awkward hug in a cafe. As I saw it filmed and they haven't used it yet.
Or they've cut that scene. One of the two.
Tore up a bit at the end myself. Good finale, but still felt like a rushed season overall.
Really enjoyed Michelle Gomez' take on The Master. Still very, very crazy but not quite as OTT as the previous incarnation.
El Vaquero de Infierno
11-09-2014, 09:27 AM
I've liked the new Doctor, and the dynamic between him and Clara, but I haven't thought much of the episodes themselves, including the finale. Hopefully, the Xmas special will be an improvement.
Sepholio
11-09-2014, 03:06 PM
I don't think I like the new doctor. Something with him is a little off to me but I can't quite figure it out exactly.
Outsider
11-10-2014, 08:54 AM
I don't think I like the new doctor. Something with him is a little off to me but I can't quite figure it out exactly.
I like him.
He is meant to be off. Far more in the character of classic Who than new Who. Certainly I get the feeling that there is a significant element of Third Doctor about this one, in terms of both look and character.
The finale was .....good. But not great.
There were some things that worked, and other bits that didn't. The whole killing Osgood thing was disappointing as she had potential to be a great re-occuring character or stop-gap companion, but it served the purpose of putting Missy over.
The whole Danny/Cyberman thing was incredibly well acted and well done, but the concept of him being able to beat his programming also just seemed a bit cheesy. The same with the Brigadier, nice nod to an old character, but again, just not quite right.
This whole series has struck me as being incredibly inconsistent and lacking direction. The character of the Doctor and Clara has changed from week to week and it has made it difficult to fully get their relationship, and it hasn't felt like they invested that much into the relationship between Danny and Clara either. It was mostly carried out in montages and explanations rather than seeing it develop and how much they care about each other in the way the did very effectively with Amy and Rory.
I think part of the problem was they were essentially starting from a blank slate. Each writer has interpreted the two characters slightly differently, as they are both new (technically Clara wasn't, but her character has been blank from day one) which might explain this inconsistency. Hopefully that will improve for the second series of the 12th Doctor.
And the Christmas episode will be shite, they always are (with the exception of last year, as it wasn't a Christmas episode, it just happened to be shown at Christmas)
Did they explain The Doctor having the same face as the guy in Pompeii?
Outsider
11-10-2014, 01:37 PM
Did they explain The Doctor having the same face as the guy in Pompeii?
Nope.
It is also the same face as John Frobisher from Children of Earth.
Apparently Russell T Davies always had a plan for that, and when Capaldi was cast Moffat phoned RTD and asked him about it and how to incorporate it into the new Doctor. I guessed it would be a theme going by Deep Breath, but was never mentioned again.
I have no problem with them not solving that straight away, as planting seeds for plots that could be in two series time is entirely sensible. But could have done with referencing it again I think.
El Vaquero de Infierno
11-11-2014, 02:37 PM
I'm sure they mentioned something about the Pompeii thing in the first episode.
Sepholio
11-11-2014, 03:35 PM
I'm sure they mentioned something about the Pompeii thing in the first episode.
I seem to remember that as well. Something along the lines of it being a face he happened to randomly recognize during his regeneration and he held onto it and took it as his new face. Something like that.
Sepholio
11-11-2014, 03:37 PM
I like him.
He is meant to be off. Far more in the character of classic Who than new Who. Certainly I get the feeling that there is a significant element of Third Doctor about this one, in terms of both look and character.
This is probably why I haven't taken to him as I have no grasp on the old doctors. My experience has been with the last 3 or 4 doctors only. This was a big change for me as such.
Outsider
11-13-2014, 03:13 PM
This is probably why I haven't taken to him as I have no grasp on the old doctors. My experience has been with the last 3 or 4 doctors only. This was a big change for me as such.
It is worth watching.
Quite a different show, particularly in it's pacing. Each story was 4-6 half hour episodes rather than a 45 min stand alone story.
But aside from the occasionally shockingly bad special effects, you can see elements of the Doctor character really shining through as familiar even from the first episode.
Corporate CockSnogger
02-08-2015, 03:10 PM
Oh hey, wanted to pop by and just say that the last series was terrible. Capaldi's great, Coleman needs to go. And Moffat. I want them to bring Wilf back as a companion. Two old farts stumbling around the galaxy would be great.
Outsider
05-25-2015, 07:21 PM
Just seen some of the new series being filmed.
Very mild possible spoiler below:
Widely been reported that Osgood is coming back but been some debate over whether it will be her or the Zygon copy.
Looks like it will be both, as shots had both Ingrid Oliver and a double with some shots seeing them swapping over.
Shot seemed to be her saying goodbye to the Doctor, as he was getting into the TARDIS on his own.
Also met her and got photo, she is both tall and lovely in person. Also saw Clara again, who is even hotter in person.
El Vaquero de Infierno
09-13-2015, 05:59 AM
New series starts on Saturday, bitches!
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Ahhhh, Jenna Louise Coleman, we have missed you!
Corporate CockSnogger
09-20-2015, 02:25 PM
Jenna Coleman leaving the show is superb news. Great to look at, dire to watch on the show.
Mostly a good episode last night tho
Blonde Moment
09-20-2015, 09:51 PM
Jenna Coleman leaving the show is superb news. Great to look at, dire to watch on the show.
Mostly a good episode last night tho
KInda wondering if they will use this to write her out
With the Doctor messing up his own timeline maybe she ends up never meeting him and lives happily ever after with her man.
El Vaquero de Infierno
09-21-2015, 10:46 AM
I need to catch this up tonight or tomorrow.
mitchables
09-23-2015, 02:07 AM
hated the guitar scene, not because it was particularly cringeworthy but because it seemed indefensibly reckless for a man who once almost canned rose as a companion for saving her dad, a miniscule historical change that ended up with, like, time-pterodactyl-monsters or whatever destroying london. hard to see how the clear, far more widespread disruptions the doctor brought upon mediaeval england chronology wouldn't have far larger consequences than anything his companions have done before, idk. really bugged me. felt v out of character, even if he was a bit unhinged because of everything.
really dug the use of past lives and old monologues and stuff to tie together the story though, that was v cool
Boondock Saint
09-28-2015, 07:17 AM
RIP sonic screwdriver
Blonde Moment
09-28-2015, 08:43 AM
Yeah that is kinda unsettling.
Hope it makes a return soon.
And just what is Missy up to?
mitchables
09-29-2015, 06:51 AM
it only seems unsettling. doctors one, six and seven didn't even have a sonic screwdriver, and the second doctor only used it sparingly, like less than his stupid recorder even
but it's been a fixture/crutch for every doctor since nine/the revival began, so i actually am kind of interested to see if they make him use his brain a little bit more to solve things or if he still just magics his way out of problems using the sonic sunglasses or whatever they're calling ray-ban's well placed advertising dollars
with the guitar setpiece in the first ep though this is pretty quickly becoming the doctor's midlife crisis, idk
Blonde Moment
09-29-2015, 08:40 AM
I suspect there is a reason for everything.
Including the cup of tea
I totally thought Coleman would be stuck in the Dalek suit because that's how she was introduced in the beginning. It would have been a good way to get Missy back as a proper villain and also get a new companion as I am with Iggy here- good to look at but she sucks as a companion.
El Vaquero de Infierno
10-04-2015, 06:48 AM
Are these two-episode story arcs going to be the norm this season?
I kind of like it that way. The final season of Enterprise did two and three episode story arcs, and it was a lot stronger for it.
The Destroyer
10-04-2015, 07:13 AM
Going by the episode titles and the fact the same person directed each two episode block, maybe.
The writers vary a bit so, so it might not be wall to wall two parters.
List of episodes on Wikipedia confirms several two episode arcs.
Are people not feeling this season? Very quiet in here.
Blonde Moment
11-15-2015, 10:29 AM
Eye booger monsters :D
Corporate CockSnogger
11-15-2015, 10:59 AM
It's been a series of mostly forgettable plotlines mixed in with some cringeworthy guitar playing and sunglasses. Last night's episode was the worst of the bunch though. An incoherent mess of an episode.
Corporate CockSnogger
11-15-2015, 11:08 AM
Although at least The Doctor was the one figuring thing out and not Clara for a change.
Really hope they shake it up a bit with the next companion. Bring back Bernard Cribbins and just have the show be two old fucks riding round space meeting aliens.
Yeah I am not feeling this season at all, last 5 in a row have been treated like I was watching Raw live.
The Destroyer
11-15-2015, 05:48 PM
I've enjoyed most of this series. Didn't really feel this episode though.
Are people not feeling this season? Very quiet in here.
The Fisher King for the most badass legit scary thing this season everything else has been pretty eh. I didn't even bother to watch last nights episode.Clara is the first companion I just don't like (even Donna wound up winning me over)
And yes those glasses make me cringe.
El Vaquero de Infierno
11-22-2015, 06:37 AM
Goodbye, Clara. :wavesad:
Corporate CockSnogger
11-22-2015, 12:22 PM
Hahaha yessss finally.
I'm sure she'll be back and get another "final episode" in the Christmas special, but its still good to be rid of her.
Corporate CockSnogger
11-29-2015, 06:06 PM
Capaldi is tremendous. Last night's episode was brilliant.
Blonde Moment
11-29-2015, 10:27 PM
So, all those skulls were his?
Yep.
Amazing last couple of episodes. Can't wait for the finale now.
dronepool
11-30-2015, 12:38 AM
So Jessica Jones got me LOVING David Tennant and I watched S2 of Dr. Who and I really like it. I should probably watch S1 since Rose is a part of it.. but uh... I'm gonna go watch season 3, S2 ep 13 and 14 were really epic... love the Cybermen.
Blonde Moment
11-30-2015, 08:59 AM
So this just in
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Corporate CockSnogger
12-06-2015, 09:01 AM
What a load of absolute tripe. I'm watching solely out of sheer hope of a good episode here or there nowadays, and last weeks brilliant episode aside, constantly let down.
Oh and to make things worse, the Christmas episode has River Song and fucking Matt Lucas in it. Get to fuck.
The Destroyer
12-06-2015, 09:58 AM
I didn't like it that much either. Overall I thought it was a decent series, but that last episode has kind of soured me.
Corporate CockSnogger
12-06-2015, 11:36 AM
I'm so glad Clara is gone. They've spent 3 or 4 years telling us that her and The Doctor are so close and such good friends, but I never once felt they showed it. The fact that he went through 4 billion years of torture to bring her back to life, but won't even stop by for a cup of tea with any of his other companions is just daft. There was nothing good about Clara other than having a nice face.
Corporate CockSnogger
12-06-2015, 11:40 AM
And now she's basically fucking immortal with her own TARDIS. They spent so long making a big deal about The Doctor getting back to Gallifrey and it was pathetically underwhelming.
Yeah not sure what all the hype was about with this being potentially "devasting" for fans and what not. Didn't feel anything here in terms of emotions.
And now she's basically fucking immortal with her own TARDIS. They spent so long making a big deal about The Doctor getting back to Gallifrey and it was pathetically underwhelming.
I thought that TARDIS was headed back to Galifrey (after some pit stops) so they could return her back to her death.
Corporate CockSnogger
12-06-2015, 12:03 PM
I thought that TARDIS was headed back to Galifrey (after some pit stops) so they could return her back to her death.
The way they hinted at them "taking the long way" to me was them basically saying that Clara was just going to ride round space herself. She may as well considering they've written as more intelligent, brave, unpredictable etc erc than The Doctor. The show has practically been "Clara in space feat. Some old guy" for a while now anyway.
Yeah that's mostly what has killed this show for me lately. The Christmas special doesn't look very appealing either :(
Corporate CockSnogger
12-27-2015, 07:04 PM
Apparently Capaldi's gonna be leaving after one more series.
Feel sorry for him with some of the shite he's had to work with. He could have gone down as one of the best, since he's a great actor, but he's not had many memorable episodes and has played second fiddle to the worst companion in the revived series.
I'm not sure about ratings, but in terms of storytelling, Doctor Who is on its arse.
I'm sure them casting a black, gay, female, paraplegic actor as the next Doctor will sort all that though.
El Vaquero de Infierno
12-27-2015, 07:38 PM
I felt that the last couple of seasons, and definitely the Xmas special, have been rather underwhelming. Maybe it needs an extended break or maybe a new head writer?
Moffat always seemed to have the best episodes in the early seasons of the revived series, but once he took over, it did not seem to pay off as I was expecting. RTD always annoyed me because his season finales were always an exercise in hyperbole that never achieved what they built up to and eventually just fizzled out.
I probably should re-watch from the start, as it has been a good 4 years since I last watched a Tenant episode, and I don't think I've seen any of the Ecclestone episode since they aired.
The Destroyer
12-28-2015, 07:38 AM
I thought the Christmas Special looked pretty terrible ahead of time, but I ended up quite enjoying it.
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