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Kevin Nash's Next Angle

The controversial wrestling star has made a fortune in the ring and is making headway in Hollywood. So why can't he sleep at night?


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</ASIDE></HEADER>Last December, during his final match in World Wrestling Entertainment, Kevin Nash, one of the most successful and recognizable professional wrestlers of his generation, fell off a ladder and through a table. He thought the table would cushion the blow. Instead, it caused his second concussion of the night. Minutes later, Paul "Triple H" Levesque pinned Nash. It was a worthy swan song. Backstage, Nash ran into Vince McMahon. "I think we saved your best for last," the WWE chairman and CEO told him.
Once he returned home to Daytona Beach, Nash, 53, buzzed his long black mane, allowing it to grow in gray. He first wore the gray hair and beard a few years back in TNA Impact Wrestling to resemble one of his favorite movie tough guys, Wade Garrett, Sam Elliott's character in Road House. Now it keeps him grounded. "When my hair is dyed, I feel like I'm 35 again," he says. "Our business feeds that Peter Pan mentality."
During his wrestling career, the sarcastically charismatic Nash was the smartest guy in the room. The center of attention. Big Sexy. Big Daddy Cool. Here, sitting in a restaurant in Daytona, cupping a glass of unsweetened iced tea, the veneer's gone; he's introspective. His face is smooth, unwrinkled. (He denies having undergone plastic surgery.) His Native American features are more pronounced in person than on television. He is, of course, still massive — 6-foot-10, 295 pounds, thick chest, round biceps, and forearms the size of a normal man's quadriceps. And he is now in the midst of a career change. Kevin Nash, like so many wrestlers before him, is trying to make it as an actor. The results, so far, have been encouraging.
He didn't do much other than look tough as Tom Cruise's bodyguard in the musical Rock of Ages, released in June. But his work as Tarzan, a broken-down stripper, in the sleeper hit Magic Mike impressed and hints at a future. Still, he's not ready to give up wrestling.
Nash still works on the independent scene. He likes the weekend schedule — it allows him time to bond with his 16-year-old son, Tristen, but it's a hustle compared to WWE's global monolith. He peddles 8x10s at autograph sessions before events where the crowds rarely top 1,000. Still, it's hard for Kevin Nash to turn down a paycheck. "I'm a Detroit kid who grew up with that assembly line mentality: You go to work to make money," he says. "My wife is like, 'Why do you still wrestle?' If you go to an ATM for a hundred dollars and it keeps spitting twenties, when would you walk away? When it wasn't spitting twenties no more. As long as you can take the money out, you'd stay there. That's what the wrestling business is like."
Nearly every conversation with Kevin Nash leads back to money. He grew up in a working-class family in southwest Detroit in an 800-square-foot house. His parents met while working at Ford. Dad was in the graphics department; mom was a secretary. From his first job delivering newspapers, Nash has adhered to what he calls a "blue-collar, dollar-is-a-dollar outlook."
Then there came a point in his life when he realized that a million dollars wasn't a whole lot of money, especially for an athlete with bad wheels. He's haunted by the memory of Tony Conigliaro, a gifted outfielder for the Boston Red Sox in the 1960s whose career was derailed following a horrific beaning. "So many people buy the ideal that this money is always going to be there," Nash says. "I bought the ideal that this could be over tomorrow." It's what keeps him up nights.
He's struggled with insomnia since he was a child. It's intensified in recent years. Every night, after a few hours gorging on cable news, Nash lies in bed replaying the day's events. His mind races. He starts sweating. Sleep drifts further out of reach. Deep-breathing exercises are no help. Counting sheep is useless. He'll get to 17 or 18 and fall deeper down the wormhole. What kind of sheep? What are they hurdling? Is it a barbed-wire fence? Why are they even jumping? His brain won't shut down. Sometimes, he kicks around ideas for a screenplay in which he'll play a good Samaritan shot for his troubles and bound to a wheelchair. Sometimes, thoughts of China and the EU crisis creep in. That gets him thinking about his personal finances, which then triggers an anxiety attack.
"In '08 when, basically, we were going into a Depression, I was beyond hyperventilating," he says. "I had to go to the doctor and get Xanax. I almost couldn't breathe. My guy from Merrill Lynch, my guy from Edward Jones is telling me, 'It's just on paper.' 'So, it's just on paper but if I want to live on that tomorrow, where's it at?' 'It's 3.7 [million].' 'Dude, it's not on paper, it's fucking real.'"
Everywhere he looks around Daytona Beach, Nash is reminded of the recession. He points out of his black 2005 Mustang GT convertible toward a stock, one-story home that, he says, was once on the market for $599,000. Now, he bets it's available for $199,000. We pass a condominium built before the bubble burst. Nash doesn't think any of the lofts were sold. His own place, a duplex with pristine views of the Atlantic Ocean and the Halifax River, was recently appraised. It has depreciated $480,000 in value over the past three years.
It's tough for a colossus to get acting gigs. But 2012 isn't Nash's first Hollywood moment. He broke into the business in 1991, portraying Super Shredder in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze. He waited 13 years before appearing as The Russian in The Punisher. He says he paused his acting career because of money. "It's hard," he says. "When you're in that upper echelon in wrestling, any movie you take is gonna be a pay cut. If you're gone for three months and they pay you 150 grand, you're getting killed."
Professional wrestling has always had a covetous relationship with cinema — wrestlers want to be actors. Dozens have attempted the leap. All, with the exception of Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, have failed. Nash, however, has a plan: After dipping his toe into the genre,<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot1>1 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote1)</SUP> he's eschewing the D-grade action movies favored by his peers. He wants to be the next Paul Giamatti, not the next Schwarzenegger.
Last year, Nash auditioned for Magic Mike casting director Carmen Cuba over Skype for the role of Tarzan, the towering elder statesman of a male strip club revue. He met all of Cuba's requirements: He was older and had his own fan base; he was taller than Joe Manganiello, the 6-foot-5 True Blood actor who plays Big Dick Richie in the movie; fit enough to wear a thong; and he was accustomed to juggling a public and private guise.
"Who Kevin is as a person was very attractive to us," Cuba says. "In his personal life, he's an art lover and very sensitive. He's a family man and gets sentimental when he talks about his son. For us, the contrast between that and his larger-than-life persona, combined with his physique, was [appealing]."
Tarzan wasn't much of a stretch for Nash. "It mimics where I am in the other world," he says. "I'm beat-down." On set, he told Academy Award–winning director Steven Soderbergh that he wouldn't dance without his knee brace. Soderbergh thought it was funny. The knee brace stayed.
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It's jarring to watch Nash strip to "It's Raining Men," but he found humor and sadness in the part, holding his own onscreen against Channing Tatum and Matthew McConaughey, and flourishing in the largely improvised scenes. "It was very Altman-esque," says co-star Matt Bomer. "There were times when we would just be sitting around, shooting the shit, and Steven would say, 'I like that conversation. Talk about that when we're rolling.' There were certain times when everything was improvised. The whole conversation about Kevin being ashy and asking The Kid to rub cocoa butter on his legs and then me saying, 'We all had to do it.' That was all improvised. Kevin was an amazing improviser. He brought so much in rounding out the ensemble and giving it depth and character."
It was a richer experience than Rock of Ages. Nash sang backup for Tom Cruise on "Wanted Dead or Alive," but he had no dialogue. He also cursed out Cruise's makeup artist toward the end of shooting.<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot2>2 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote2)</SUP>
He'd like to pick up more character-actor work like Magic Mike, maybe a romantic comedy or even a film set in the wrestling world; Nash pitched Tatum an idea for a film called King of the Road. "The Wrestler was a good movie, but The Wrestler is the end of the run," Nash says. "There's never been a movie about the run. That's what people want to see."
Nash isn't as garrulous about a potential appearance in the Hunger Games sequel,Catching Fire. Earlier this year, rumors floated him for the part of Brutus, but casting wasn't finalized when Nash mentioned the film while on the red carpet at the Magic Mikepremiere. Now, Nash refuses to address the project.
Nash was a top basketball recruit, and after his junior year at Aquinas High School he says he attended a basketball camp with Magic Johnson. The following year, they teamed on a Midwestern All-Star squad and defeated the Russian Junior National team in an exhibition. Every time they played together, Johnson told Nash to keep his hands up. "Early in the game, Magic came down the lane, I had my hands by my chin and all of a sudden, I had the ball in my hands," Nash remembers. "If Magic Johnson was my point guard, I probably could have had a couple of scrub years in the NBA."
But Nash was a step slow and clashed with head coach Don DeVoe during three years at the University of Tennessee. The relationship detonated following a loss at Kentucky during which Nash was tossed for throwing a punch. "We go back to the locker room and DeVoe kept saying, 'Hey, hothead, you cost us the game,'" Nash says. "He grabbed my jersey and tried to spin me around. He kept running his mouth so I bitch-smacked him. I bear-pawed him." He washed out of Tennessee (http://www.ddtdigest.com/features/nash0003.htm), spent two years in the Army, played professionally in Germany, and then, after tearing up his knee, returned to the assembly line in Detroit.
He worked as a floor manager in an Atlanta area strip club when he broke into wrestling, attending the Georgia Academy of Wrestling in a little town called Lovejoy. His trainer Jody "The Assassin" Hamilton says Nash was "destined for success." He made his big television debut in September 1990 as part of a tag team, the Master Blasters, a Road Warriors knockoff that flopped immediately.<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot3>3 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote3)</SUP> World Championship Wrestling officials were high on Nash, however, and quickly repackaged him as Oz. Not the Wizard of Oz, just Oz, as in the fictional geographical region.<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot4>4 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote4)</SUP> Nash wore a rubber mask to the ring, an emerald-green cape, and was accompanied by the wrestler Kevin Sullivan, who also wore a rubber mask and, for some reason, handled a pet monkey. Oz's introduction at a May 1991 pay-per-view remains one of the goofiest moments in wrestling history (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xejw66_oz-wcw-debut-vs-tim-parker_sport). The gimmick didn't last.
Soon after, Nash crafted a character inspired by Steve Martin in My Blue Heaven. The crowd remained apathetic to the newly christened Vinnie Vegas, but he had one fan.
"I thought it was the funniest thing I'd ever laid eyes on. I saw a guy that was incredibly talented and thought he should be on a much bigger stage," says Michael "Shawn Michaels" Hickenbottom. "What sealed the deal for me was that he was humble and appreciative. And then the fact that he was so darn funny."
Nash jumped to the World Wrestling Federation in 1993 and became Diesel, a belligerent trucker moonlighting as Michaels's onscreen bodyguard. He didn't wrestle much but learned from being ringside, taking in Michaels's high-flying series of matches with Scott "Razor Ramon" Hall, an underrated mat-based powerhouse. That's when he fell in love with the business. Nash quickly blossomed into a main-eventer, and in November 1994, won the WWF Championship in an eight-second match (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGoQWNElahg).
Nash believes he was awarded the title because Vince McMahon wanted a "clean" big man as champion following his acquittal on steroids charges.<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot5>5 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote5)</SUP> His ascent wasn't greeted warmly by the locker room. Rivals like Scott "Bam Bam" Bigelow complained of his push; wrestling manager/booker Jim Cornette once famously declared that Nash only had six wrestling maneuvers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXHnncmn4Z4). Nash was green, especially compared to Michaels, who is now considered one of the greatest performers ever, but his size, charm on the microphone, and imposing finisher, the "Jackknife Powerbomb," won fans over. His greatest attribute, however, was his appetite for backstage politics.
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Along with close friends Michaels, Hall, and Sean "The 1-2-3 Kid" Waltman (later known as X-Pac), Nash formed The Kliq, a collective that dominated the main-event scene and conspired for higher paychecks. (Triple H joined later.) "We were like the Five Musketeers," Nash says. "You have five guys telling each other what we're getting paid, so they know they couldn't fuck us. We broke the system. It's like those fuckers that go to Vegas and count cards. We cared more about each other than about the individual because we knew as a pack, we'd all prosper from it."
It wasn't enough to stick around. Even as WWF champion, Nash says his contract was limited, for just 10 matches and $1,500. Merchandising and payouts<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot6>6 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote6)</SUP> could push earnings into the millions, but that money wasn't guaranteed.<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot7>7 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote7)</SUP> In spring 1996, he, along with Hall, signed with WCW to what he says was a five-year deal worth approximately $9 million, guaranteed. (Tristen was born six days into his WCW run.) He also shrewdly negotiated a "favored nation clause" into the contract — if another wrestler received a fatter deal from WCW, Nash's salary was adjusted to reflect the increase.
"He's smart as hell," says "Diamond" Dallas Page. "I used to call him 'The Locker Room Lawyer.' If I let Kevin Nash totally control my career, I would have made at least another 2 million dollars."
As we pull into the driveway at Nash's modest home, he gestures toward the residence across the street. "How much do you think he pays in property taxes? $36,000. I pay $7,200," he says, cackling. We walk through his garage, past a Bronco — "This is what I drive to my tea party meetings"<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot8>8 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote8)</SUP> — and into the house. Peja, a brown Yorkie named after Peja Stojakovic, greets him. We walk through his wife's home gym, past framed photographs from Nash's wrestling and basketball career, up a spiral staircase, and onto his rooftop deck. "I come up here and just take a breath," he says, looking past the ocean banks.
Daytona Beach is special for another reason: It's home to the biggest moment in Nash's wrestling career. On July 7, 1996, at WCW's Bash at the Beach pay-per-view, Nash, Hall, and Terry "Hulk Hogan" Bollea formed the New World Order (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfQ3IH-TWVI), a stable aimed at destroying the WCW. Turning the beloved Hogan heel was shocking. The Ocean Center crowd pelted the trio with garbage. One fan even charged the ring. It inspired a parody video after LeBron James's "Decision." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7xlzLOZH5c)
The resulting nWo angle catapulted WCW past the WWF in the ratings for more than two years, until the emergence of the WWF's Attitude Era in spring 1998. By then, WCW was beset by creative problems. The nWo became diluted — black-and-white nWo shirts were slapped on generic mid-carders (Marcus "Buff" Bagwell), Hulk Hogan lackeys (Ed Leslie), and jobbers like Mike "Virgil"/"Vincent" Jones — and there was never any conclusion to the angle. Older stars like Nash and Hogan were also perceived to hold too much backstage power.
"As far as politics goes, Kevin and I worked pretty good together as good-cop, bad-cop when we really needed to get things done in the back," Hogan says. "If we needed something done from Ted Turner or [former WCW president] Eric Bischoff or Vince McMahon or [TNA president] Dixie Carter, we'd be like, 'Kevin won't be happy if he doesn't get this. Or, 'Hogan might flip out if he doesn't get this.' We were good at double-teaming the 'enemy' in a political situation. We were ruthless."
Along with Hogan, Kevin Nash might be the most despised man in the Internet wrestling community, a hive of hard-core wrestling nerds and snobs once known in the business as "smart marks," or "smarks." He's mocked in the comments section of wrestling websites and YouTube for, among other things, no-showing the Starrcade '97 pay-per-view because of a heart attack (he'd eaten a pan of pot brownies<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot9>9 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote9)</SUP>), nearly killing Paul "The Big Show" Wight with a botched Powerbomb,<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot10>10 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote10)</SUP> allegedly booking himself to end Bill Goldberg's undefeated streak at Starrcade '98,<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot11>11 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote11)</SUP> and tearing his quad muscle during a match in 2002.
"I'm never going to be an Internet darling. I could hit an 890 hurricanrana tomorrow and they'll say, 'Oh, his left knee hit before his right knee,'" he says. "You're not supposed to be 7 feet tall, handsome, smart. You're a giant, you should look like a giant and fee-fi-fo-fum around. You shouldn't know anything about art. You shouldn't be well-rounded. Look at the core of the hard-core wrestling fans. What do we have in common? When they go to New York City, do they go to the modern art museum and can't believe that Picasso's early work is not cubism? Do they know that? Do they care? Have they ever spent a day at an art museum ever in their life? Do they go to Amsterdam to see Van Goghs, then go to a coffeehouse and then go see Van Goghs again?" He laughs. "They don't. Sorry, man." It sounds like a great Kevin Nash promo.
Here's one reason Nash will never be an Internet darling: He called Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero — small-statured, gifted technical wrestlers that lacked big in-ring personalities but were beloved by fans — "Vanilla Midgets." He now claims the comments were a double work. It drew heat from the marks that cheered for Benoit and Guerrero because they were baby faces. It drew heat from the smart marks that cheered for Benoit and Guerrero because they were great wrestlers. Even though both are gone now,<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot12>12 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote12)</SUP> he still thinks they never belonged in the main event.
"When Benoit and Guerrero hugged [at the end of WrestleMania XX], that was the end of the business," he says. "Has business been the same since that WrestleMania? Has it come close to the Austin era? Has it come close to the nWo or the Hogan era? You put two fucking guys that were great workers that were the same height as the fucking referees, and I'm sorry, man. Are you going to watch a porno movie with a guy with a three-inch dick? Even if you're not gay, you will not watch a porno movie with a guy with a three-inch dick. That's not the standard in porno films. So you put a 5-foot-7 guy as your world champion."
He has the same problem with today's Internet heroes, Phil "CM Punk" Brooks and Bryan "Daniel Bryan" Danielson.
"They are not bigger than life," he says. "I bet they could both walk through airports and not be noticed unless they have a gimmick shirt on and the belt."
We walk downstairs and wait for Nash's wife Tamara; they're going out to buy Tristen's first car, a steel-blue Jeep Wrangler Sport. John Lennon and Elvis Presley portraits hang in the foyer. Two more paintings hang in the living room. One has tepees and a '59 Cadillac. Its counterpart features more cars and pink dinosaurs. "Acid trips and cars," Nash says. And then, suddenly, without warning, he pulls out a .50-caliber Desert Eagle semiautomatic pistol. "Of course you have this for home protection. I love it." I don't know how to respond.
A lot of people have guns down here.
That's why I have one.
Are you an NRA guy?
No, I'm a stay-away-from-my-fucking-shit guy.
He disassembles the gun. It's not loaded.
Later that night, after dinner and two bottles of wine with his family at a riverfront seafood joint, Nash sits in his living room with another bottle. Talk soon turns to his lengthy reign as WWE champion, which was plagued by weak challengers (the rotund, immobile Nelson "Mabel" Frazier Jr.) and his babyface turn. After losing the title to Bret Hart in late 1995, Nash met with McMahon to discuss the direction of the business. "Did you see Heat? Did you root for Pacino or De Niro?," Nash asked his boss. McMahon admitted to cheering for the villain. "Don't you understand that the antihero is the new hero?" He thinks it inspired the Attitude Era and the subsequent ascent of "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot13>13 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote13)</SUP>
He uncorks another bottle of wine. The booze makes him reflective. He talks about specific memories from the road: Watching Waltman and Levesque lay out a match together before Summer Slam '95; jobbing to local wrestler Mark Vandy at a recent independent show in Indianapolis; a brilliant promo he taped leading up to the Starrcade '98 collision with Goldberg. He'll occasionally watch that match on YouTube. "It had the electricity of a prizefight," he says.
Around 1 a.m. Nash offers me a ride, and 15 minutes later we pull up to valet. We decide to grab another drink, but the hotel bar is closed. So is room service. Somehow, he convinces the night manager to send a bottle of Cabernet to my room. It's rare seeing a giant win an argument without intimidation.
Once upstairs, Nash goes on for another hour on a variety of subjects. He talks about visiting a friend struggling with alcoholism (not Scott Hall<SUP style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; MARGIN: 0px 1px 0px 2px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 2px; FONT-SIZE: 10px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: super; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=reffoot14>14 (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8241536/wrestling-star-kevin-nash-making-headway-hollywood-keeps-night#footnote14)</SUP>), extols Keith Richards's autobiography, his memories as a 4-year-old of President Kennedy's assassination, his property in St. John, his 161 IQ, and, again, money. He estimates he'll bank $525,000 yearly in retirement. "If I can't live on 525," he says, "I'm in trouble." He credits a handful of business decisions — buying early in silver and gold commodities and taking a chance on Ford when its stock was in the tank. Still, he's stressed. "The fucking peaks and valleys are so … jeez, man."
Workers will arrive early the next morning to install hurricane shutters on his home. By the weekend, Kevin Nash will be in the Caribbean vacationing with his wife and son. His wrestling career made him a multimillionaire. His acting career is taking off. It's 2:40 a.m., another sleepless night in Daytona Beach.

feel free to read, enjoy and post other things such as pictures of Big Kev's glorious mane in it's prime, videos of him putting on some 8 star classics and so forth
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Emperor Smeat
08-07-2012, 05:25 PM
Great read.

:lol: at the mental image of him doing a 890 hurricanrana and someone complaining on the internet.

He also shrewdly negotiated a "favored nation clause" into the contract — if another wrestler received a fatter deal from WCW, Nash's salary was adjusted to reflect the increase.
Wow WCW really was full of morons in management considering they probably had a lot of these types of contracts and never realized to adjust one meant all gets adjusted as well.

Nowhere Man
08-07-2012, 05:36 PM
Great article. I still think the success of guys like Austin and even his old Kliq-buddy HBK, who you'd never mistake for a giant, flies in the face of Nash's whole "small guys don't draw" argument, but it's still a pretty entertaining read.

If there's anyone from the rasslin' world who can make a decent career out of acting, I think Nash could do it.

Feed me!
08-07-2012, 05:45 PM
Good read.

Flash Funk
08-07-2012, 05:46 PM
I enjoyed the article as well, and consider myself a Nash fan, but he thinks he is way more important to the history of pro wrestling than he actually is.

#1-norm-fan
08-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Great article. I still think the success of guys like Austin and even his old Kliq-buddy HBK, who you'd never mistake for a giant, flies in the face of Nash's whole "small guys don't draw" argument, but it's still a pretty entertaining read.

Austin and HBK aren't really small. They may be a little shorter than a guy like Hogan but especially in their build, they're not exactly emaciated twigs or anything. Daniel Bryan, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, CM Punk, Mysterio, etc. are all small guys like Nash is referring to. (I'm trying to avoid saying "vanilla midgets". lol)

Skippord
08-07-2012, 07:14 PM
http://www.allwrestlingsuperstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Champion-Eddie-Guerrero-Moving-in-to-the-Ring.jpg
Emaciated twig

Keith
08-07-2012, 07:26 PM
I don't know what to make about Nash's comments referring to Eddie, Benoit, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan.

On the one hand, he's kinda right, to be honest. They are smaller guys who in person look like an "average joe". They don't have the look or the "aura" of a Kevin Nash, a Hulk Hogan, a Triple H, a Brock Lesnar, a Rock.

Yet on the other hand, it's refreshing to see guys who you would normally look at as "underdogs" reach the ultimate goal and win a World Championship.

I really don't know how I feel, sincerely.

dexnall
08-07-2012, 07:29 PM
Ok i am a kev fan, but to say wrestling died at w/m 20 when benoit and eddie hugged at the close of the show, i think he found scott halls stash and he did all of it. Nash is just upset that beniot and eddie drew more money as champs than he did during his wwe championship runs. fact
:foc::foc::foc::rant::rant::rant::n::n::n::foc::foc::foc:

Keith
08-07-2012, 07:34 PM
I don't think Kevin Nash is completely against smaller guys doing big things. I mean, he let Rey Mysterio Jr beat him once or twice back in WCW.

I get what he says. But like I said, I'm split. I get both arguments.

#1-norm-fan
08-07-2012, 07:34 PM
Emaciated twig

You should work on that. I didn't call or imply that he was. I used it as an example of how HBK and Austin were not small. Try to keep up.

Eddie was just really short. Benoit sure as hell wasn't a twig either. He was just like... 5' 8" and in his case, also had no charisma.

Punk would be more on the twig side. He's about as tall as HBK but his body is just... nothing. lol

Keith
08-07-2012, 07:38 PM
The sad thing about Eddie and Benoit is that it's possible their quest to grow into the "image" people have of guys who should be World Champion made them do things that ultimately had an effect in them dying.

Think about it. Within 3 years of winning World Championships, they were both dead.

#1-norm-fan
08-07-2012, 07:38 PM
I think there's a place for everyone in wrestling. But the world championship should go to guys who either don't look like they just jumped in the ring from the crowd or have so much charisma and mainstream appeal that they can overcome it.

Wishbone
08-07-2012, 07:46 PM
Nash thinks he's far more of a star than he ever was. To hear him tell it he was bigger than Hogan for christ sake. If we go by Nash's math then The Great Khali should be the greatest star WWE's ever had, and Punk should be in Zack Ryder's position or worse. I'll agree that guys like Shannon Moore or Evan Bourne should never hold a world title, but guys like Punk, Bryan, Mysterio, and Jericho have more than proved that they can draw more than many of the big guys Nash included.

CSL
08-07-2012, 07:48 PM
Ok i am a kev fan, but to say wrestling died at w/m 20 when benoit and eddie hugged at the close of the show, i think he found scott halls stash and he did all of it. Nash is just upset that beniot and eddie drew more money as champs than he did during his wwe championship runs. fact
:foc::foc::foc::rant::rant::rant::n::n::n::foc::foc::foc:

I'm sorry but history and the Official WWE "Who Drew Most While on Top" chart say differently

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n38/von_muff/nashg2.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n38/von_muff/nashg1.jpg

CSL
08-07-2012, 07:50 PM
here's Big Kev's glorious mane in it's prime

http://photos.imageevent.com/pizon/photofilenormanjames8x10photos/Kevin%20Nash%20num2.jpg

CSL
08-07-2012, 07:53 PM
click the bar at the top for a full size view. It's practically a shampoo advert

dexnall
08-07-2012, 07:55 PM
I'm sorry but history and the Official WWE "Who Drew Most While on Top" chart say differently

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n38/von_muff/nashg2.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n38/von_muff/nashg1.jpg

i said the drew morey in their wwe title reigns than he did in his. when he wass wwe champ the biz was way down i have a hard time believeing he drew more money in 94 than they did in 04

Wishbone
08-07-2012, 07:56 PM
I like how people always say that WWE is "Bland" today and complain about the product, but still go out of their way to watch it anyway. I for one have enjoyed WWE today pretty much just as much as I have in the past save for the Austin era. People just need to stop comparing the stars of today to the stars that they grew up with because to you the wrestlers you grew up with will always seem better even if they are not. Enjoy todays guys for what they are and don't try to bring your old favorites into the equation... or don't I honestly don't care I'll enjoy it either way.

CSL
08-07-2012, 07:59 PM
i said the drew morey in their wwe title reigns than he did in his. when he wass wwe champ the biz was way down i have a hard time believeing he drew more money in 94 than they did in 04

sorry but the graph doesn't lie, it goes Nash, Austin, Hogan

screech
08-07-2012, 08:03 PM
Great read. Fucking love Nash.

Crimson
08-07-2012, 09:15 PM
CM Punk is 6ft 1 222lbs.
Michaels is 6ft 1 225lbs.
Benoit 5ft 10 220

So a vanilla midget(hbk) was the greatest entertainer of all time.

#1-norm-fan
08-07-2012, 10:06 PM
CM Punk is 6ft 1 222lbs.
Michaels is 6ft 1 225lbs.
Benoit 5ft 10 220

So a vanilla midget(hbk) was the greatest entertainer of all time.

a) That's more of a testament to how amazing HBK was (even though he didn't really draw much as champ so it doesn't really combat what Nash was saying.)

and b) Look at HBK and Punk's bodies. Big difference.

Wishbone
08-07-2012, 10:33 PM
a) That's more of a testament to how amazing HBK was (even though he didn't really draw much as champ so it doesn't really combat what Nash was saying.)

and b) Look at HBK and Punk's bodies. Big difference.

During his prime maybe HBK was bigger, but look at him from his return until he left and he was Punk sized or smaller. Also look at any champ since Austin and Rock were champs and you'll see that they don't really draw either. It's not size that has anything to do with it it's that the belts mean nothing now. People aren't drawn to watch the champion anymore because the champion isn't important anymore.

Wishbone
08-07-2012, 10:36 PM
Hell Ryder is relatively small but sells in the top 5 in WWE and he's never even held the world title yet Swagger who had the size was champ for a good run and still can't do anything to get over. It doesn't stop their either look at the number of Bryan or Punk shirts at any given event vs the number of Sheamus shirts. Yeah you got tons of Sheamus signs and kids dressing as him, but I don't see many people buying his merchandise.

Curd
08-07-2012, 10:43 PM
With his knowledge of the arts and sly putdowns against the vulgar "smart" fans, Nash reminds me of a 7-foot Damien Sandow.

Wishbone
08-07-2012, 10:45 PM
With his knowledge of the arts and sly putdowns against the vulgar "smart" fans, Nash reminds me of a 7-foot Damien Sandow.

Only Nash actually lives the gimmick lol :lol: On another note I'm really finding Sandow annoying lately for some reason anyone else having that problem? :-\

Aaronp43
08-07-2012, 10:58 PM
Kevin Nash had what like 2 good moves and has the nerve to talk about Chris and Eddie

DLVH84
08-07-2012, 11:06 PM
Size doesn't matter, as long as you got the heart, the passion, and the drive.

mhirn3
08-07-2012, 11:33 PM
Honestly I don't even like Nash but I thought it was a fantastic read. It's refreshing to see someone so open about their drug use, the business and money.

Heyman
08-08-2012, 12:25 AM
Kevin Nash has an interesting opinion, but I think it's false.

The WWE, and the wrestling industry in general, started to die down after Survivor Series 2001.

By Wrestlemania 2004, the wrestling industry was well removed from the Attitude era.

Had the WWE pushed Orton properly as a heel after he beat Benoit at summerslam, instead of blowing their load and turning him face after he was receiving a few face pops, then the WWE could have possibly ushered in a new era which would have rivaled the Attiude era.

Unfortunately, Nash's buddy Hunter prevented that from happening.

2 years earlier, Hunter also buried Lesnar and sent him to Smackdown after he beat The Rock in one of the biggest matches in years.

Heyman
08-08-2012, 12:28 AM
People aren't drawn to watch the champion anymore because the champion isn't important anymore.

This.

In today's WWE, the world title belts are merely a way of getting mid card and/or promising wrestlers over as opposed to signifying that they are the face/franchise of the company.

Cena has been without the title for almost a year and he's still generally regarded as the top guy.

Keith
08-08-2012, 12:29 AM
click the bar at the top for a full size view. It's practically a shampoo advert


http://i.imgur.com/QfZZC.jpg

Keith
08-08-2012, 12:45 AM
To Kevin Nash's credit, I can't think of any other wrestler that achieved so much by doing so little.

Goldberg, brah.

St. Jimmy
08-08-2012, 12:50 AM
Nash is a fucking idiot.

GD
08-08-2012, 12:51 AM
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Corndad
08-08-2012, 01:26 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Funny how <a href="https://twitter.com/realkevinnash"><s>@</s><b>realkevinnash</b></a> says wrestling “died” when Benoit and Guerrero were champs-Yet the worst year for WWE biz was 95 when he was on top</p>&mdash; Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/233056741829525504" data-datetime="2012-08-08T04:27:11+00:00">August 8, 2012</a></blockquote>
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BigCrippyZ
08-08-2012, 02:26 AM
Jericho tweeted late Tuesday evening, "Funny how @realkevinnash says wrestling “died” when Benoit and Guerrero were champs-Yet the worst year for WWE biz was 95 when he was on top."

The oft-used point originated from Wrestling Observer editor Dave Meltzer, who has repeated stated over the years that WWE had its worst financial period in company history in 1995 when Nash held the WWF Championship as Diesel.

Nash responded to Jericho's tweet minutes later, writing, "Once again the puppet master pulls the marks strings .Knew Jericho was a closet mark.First one eliminated on a bulls--t sing show...REALLY!!" Nash's last insult is in reference to Jericho being the first contestant to be eliminated in the 2006 Fox Television singing reality show Celebrity Duets.

Jericho quickly shot back, "Hope @realkevinnash doesn’t tear his quad tweeting! #typicalbigman #nwothirdwheel."

:rofl: This is great!

Crimson
08-08-2012, 02:34 AM
Nash keeps this up and Punk will be jumping in..then he'll really get squashed.

Joesgonnakillyou
08-08-2012, 07:34 AM
I'm just waiting for the moment Kevin Nash overtakes Bret Hart as the most delusional "believes his own hype" ex wrestler.

Not long now!!

and at least Bret Hart has some redeemiing features, like being talented and making money and all that stuff. He was better at promo's as well.

and by the way Ric Flair wasn't a giant either. All Nash is doing is taking the one thing HE had (size) and saying that's the most important thing in Wrestling.

Joesgonnakillyou
08-08-2012, 07:36 AM
I also say that Gertner and Nash are the same person and we should refer to them both as 'Gash'

Autobahn
08-08-2012, 09:14 AM
Nash is great. Hope he does well in movies

MoFo
08-08-2012, 09:30 AM
Nash is greatness, and is bang on here.

rofl'd @ the porn comparison.

loopydate
08-08-2012, 09:40 AM
Kevin Nash has an interesting opinion, but I think it's false.

The WWE, and the wrestling industry in general, started to die down after Survivor Series 2001.

By Wrestlemania 2004, the wrestling industry was well removed from the Attitude era.

I agree wholeheartedly. It was the Invasion debacle that was the beginning of the end, not WM20.

CSL
08-08-2012, 10:03 AM
Nash keeps this up and Punk will be jumping in..then he'll really get squashed.

lol please

Keith
08-08-2012, 10:05 AM
The only negative I see from what Nash says is that he goes on these rants against CM Punk and Daniel Bryan, and then wonders why he's not in WWE.

Fignuts
08-08-2012, 11:14 AM
I don't really care how big the dick is in porn, because I don't watch porn for dick.

Fuck is wrong with this guy?

Gerard
08-08-2012, 11:34 AM
That oz intro linked was.......interesting.

bigslimjj
08-08-2012, 11:40 AM
Nash is one of the most overrated idiots ever in the biz. P.S. he did only have six moves. One of them is called "The Tear" where he jumps in the ring and rips apart his quad muscle.

Jura
08-08-2012, 01:11 PM
I don't really care how big the dick is in porn, because I don't watch porn for dick.

Fuck is wrong with this guy?
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Keith
08-08-2012, 01:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/uOA4P.jpg

Wake Up Call
08-08-2012, 08:14 PM
Kevin Nash was nothing without HBK/HHH or Hulk Hogan.

#1-norm-fan
08-08-2012, 08:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/uOA4P.jpg

lol. Speaking of emaciated twigs...

Innovator
08-08-2012, 08:38 PM
Dude knows how to get people talking.

Heisenberg
08-08-2012, 10:30 PM
Kevin Nash still plays WCW/nWo Revenge on the N64 in hopes of recapturing his dignity.

Somehow, you can't blame him...

...because that game was the shit

I believe that game had Fit "The Shit" Finlay in it. Doesn't matter, I still cook crystal meth.

Skippord
08-08-2012, 10:34 PM
fuck yes you do, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO KNOCKS

Heisenberg
08-08-2012, 10:35 PM
fuck yes you do, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO KNOCKS

I AM THE DANGER

Malfeitor
08-08-2012, 10:40 PM
My new favorite poster... HEISENBERG!

Heisenberg
08-08-2012, 10:44 PM
I'm here to stay...

I took two shits today before I got fucked...therefore, I cook crystal meth.

#1-norm-fan
08-08-2012, 11:13 PM
I'm here to stay...

I took two shits today before I got fucked...therefore, I cook crystal meth.

*Does the math*

Shit + Shit + Fucked does indeed = Crystal meth. This guy checks out. He's legit.

Keith
08-08-2012, 11:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/uOA4P.jpg

lol. Speaking of emaciated twigs...


I don't know how Nash doesn't break his legs and tear his quads more often. He's like 290 lbs and look at those legs.

Heisenberg
08-09-2012, 12:06 AM
I don't know how Nash doesn't break his legs and tear his quads more often. He's like 290 lbs and look at those legs.

Holy shit, probably explains why he wore pants the whole time as well, well at least before the Diesel era. I'd go research it, but I have to go cook.

jbizness
08-09-2012, 12:19 AM
As great as Diesel was, he's so bitter about his failure in his later career. Dude, we don't give a fuck. Jean surpassed you and Aldo Montoya would've too if he was a booker in WCW. One of the most overrated fags who held down as much talent as possible for his own benefit. A stiff worker who will always be a 3rd wheel, just SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

Fignuts
08-09-2012, 12:36 AM
Oh for fuck's sake, with that picture.

Use your heads.

Joesgonnakillyou
08-09-2012, 07:04 AM
I think it's pretty funny that some people (JR and Lance Storm) have somehow cast Nash as a master manipulator for getting people to talk.

It's essentially trolling...

CSL
08-09-2012, 10:29 AM
Oh for fuck's sake, with that picture.

Use your heads.

where's the fun in that, ignore logic and insult a "picture" of Big Kev to show him who the boss is/gain a brutal revenge for his insulting of a few internet darlings

Fignuts
08-09-2012, 10:37 AM
That picture must be shopped, right? His right leg looks like Gwyneth Paltrow's arm.

No, it's not shopped, but when you go through a severe injury and have to get surgery, you lose a ton of muscle mass.

After I had surgery for my ACL, my leg looked like a 12 year old school girl's. Even the healthy leg had lost quite a bit of muscle mass.

CSL
08-09-2012, 10:43 AM
nope, he's like 290lbs and look at those legs.

Keith
08-09-2012, 10:43 AM
No, it's not shopped, but when you go through a severe injury and have to get surgery, you lose a ton of muscle mass.

After I had surgery for my ACL, my leg looked like a 12 year old school girl's. Even the healthy leg had lost quite a bit of muscle mass.

He must still be recovering from ACL surgery then.

http://i.imgur.com/ghFSt.jpg

CSL
08-09-2012, 10:45 AM
I'm not even sure what the above post is supposed to mean

CSL
08-09-2012, 10:47 AM
going to put my money on "Keith has x-ray vision and can see through Big Kev's pleathers right through to his legs"

CSL
08-09-2012, 10:54 AM
maybe Keith thinks your ACL is in your wrist

CSL
08-09-2012, 10:55 AM
Keith sees facial hair as a pre-requisite for recovering from an ACL injury

Keith
08-09-2012, 10:56 AM
You're on fire, guy.

Corporate CockSnogger
08-09-2012, 10:57 AM
Aren't there like a million photos of Nash out there in a thong from this Magic Mike film that could be used to show his legs one way or the other?

CSL
08-09-2012, 11:01 AM
You're on fire, guy.

yet you still haven't explained your baffling post up there. Put me out of my misery, extinguish the flames, enlighten me, show me what I'm missing because I might not ever sleep again until you do

Keith
08-09-2012, 11:14 AM
No, no, you're on fire. I wouldn't extinguish your awesomeness.

CSL
08-09-2012, 11:15 AM
hot excuse/avoidance :y:

Keith
08-09-2012, 11:20 AM
Dude, do you think I'd be capable of stopping you from just posting hot fire up on here?

No way!

CSL
08-09-2012, 11:25 AM
No, it's not shopped, but when you go through a severe injury and have to get surgery, you lose a ton of muscle mass.

After I had surgery for my ACL, my leg looked like a 12 year old school girl's. Even the healthy leg had lost quite a bit of muscle mass.

He must still be recovering from ACL surgery then.

http://i.imgur.com/ghFSt.jpg

whiteyford
08-09-2012, 12:55 PM
I like to imagine big Kev coming online after he says this stuff, in a smoking jacket and sipping cognac, possibly with a cigar but maybe a ornate pipe, and just chuckling away as he reads all the replies. I think alot of what he says is just to amuse himself or to keep himself relevant/talked about, i'd imagine it might put his booking fee up as well.

But mainly I just wanted to share the smoking jacket image with everyone.

jbizness
08-09-2012, 03:03 PM
I like to imagine big Kev coming online after he says this stuff, in a smoking jacket and sipping cognac, possibly with a cigar but maybe a ornate pipe, and just chuckling away as he reads all the replies. I think alot of what he says is just to amuse himself or to keep himself relevant/talked about, i'd imagine it might put his booking fee up as well.

But mainly I just wanted to share the smoking jacket image with everyone.
To be fair, despite my drunken diss on him, Big Kev is one of the few motherfuckers that can pull off the smoking jacket.

whiteyford
08-09-2012, 03:06 PM
And a cravat of course. Don't call him Big Sexy for nothing.

CSL
08-09-2012, 03:15 PM
this is Big Kev's smoking jacket face

http://i.imgur.com/0uFkj.jpg

whiteyford
08-09-2012, 03:17 PM
Someone needs to photoshop that.

jbizness
08-09-2012, 03:32 PM
Ben http://i48.tinypic.com/13zc294.gif

Pintint
08-09-2012, 03:49 PM
Nash is the man but,

Jericho quickly shot back, "Hope @realkevinnash doesn’t tear his quad tweeting! #typicalbigman #nwothirdwheel."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

jbizness
08-09-2012, 04:00 PM
Vanilla Midgets own Gertner's soul

CSL
08-09-2012, 04:01 PM
Jericho will be posting "THIS IS SPARTA" memes next along with half the people in this thread, on Twitter etc

jbizness
08-09-2012, 04:02 PM
Randon question... Where's Joel? On the indy scene? I miss that fat fuck

Fignuts
08-09-2012, 06:06 PM
I like to imagine big Kev coming online after he says this stuff, in a smoking jacket and sipping cognac, possibly with a cigar but maybe a ornate pipe, and just chuckling away as he reads all the replies. I think alot of what he says is just to amuse himself or to keep himself relevant/talked about, i'd imagine it might put his booking fee up as well.

But mainly I just wanted to share the smoking jacket image with everyone.


Was about to post something along these lines. It is totally within Nash's character to post something solely to get a rise out of the IWC, and not because he actually believes it.

And I completely applaud him for that.

St. Jimmy
08-09-2012, 08:50 PM
Being a cunt for the sake of being a cunt? That's totally "working the internet"

CSL
08-09-2012, 08:53 PM
you would know, sounds like your entire TPWW m.o :)

St. Jimmy
08-09-2012, 08:53 PM
http://www.lolbrary.com/content/654/poor-waldo-no-one-cares-that-theyve-found-you-14654.jpg

jbizness
08-09-2012, 11:38 PM
I feel kinda gay for spotting Waldo before the Asian bitches

Mr. Nerfect
08-11-2012, 05:08 AM
I like to imagine big Kev coming online after he says this stuff, in a smoking jacket and sipping cognac, possibly with a cigar but maybe a ornate pipe, and just chuckling away as he reads all the replies. I think alot of what he says is just to amuse himself or to keep himself relevant/talked about, i'd imagine it might put his booking fee up as well.

But mainly I just wanted to share the smoking jacket image with everyone.

This. And also, I think what he is saying is that you need to have a Superstar aura about you, which I don't disagree with. I do disagree with someone saying that you need to have size. Look, size can help -- but it can also hinder. It just depends on the talent.

Wasn't Nash saying a few weeks ago when Punk was hot that he should reform the nWo with him? Yeah, I don't think Nash really has a problem with Punk.

Mr. Nerfect
08-11-2012, 05:09 AM
I totally want to see Nash back as an on-air character, by the way. Not as an active wrestler, but as someone trying to apply for a job in Booker T's administration, or something.

Gertner
08-11-2012, 10:05 AM
Nash is 100% correct about Benoit and Eddie. People watch wrestling to see larger than life characters. They don't watch to see guys who look like they work at a gas station.

Now we'ere stuck with these NO BUYS" vanilla midgets who should be wrestling in High School gyms like Punk and Bryan winning World Titles and not drawing a dime.