Official TNA Hardcore Justice 2012 Thread

[Mr. Nerfect]

TNA has been putting forth a surprisingly good product lately, and this PPV looks quite interesting to me. I can't find a stream anywhere, but I thought I would make this thread so people have a place to discuss this, since there appears to be a bit more good will towards TNA lately. Here is the card:

WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
Bobby Roode vs. Austin Aries

BFG SERIES MATCH - WORTH 20 POINTS LADDER MATCH
AJ Styles vs Kurt Angle vs Christopher Daniels vs Samoa Joe

BFG SERIES MATCH - WORTH 20 POINTS TABLES MATCH
Jeff Hardy vs James Storm vs Bully Ray vs Robbie E

BFG SERIES MATCH - WORTH 20 POINTS FALLS COUNT ANYWHERE
Mr. Anderson vs Rob Van Dam vs The Pope vs Magnus

KNOCKOUTS TITLE MATCH
Madison Rayne vs. Miss Tessmacher (champ)

Kid Kash and Gunner vs. Chavo Guerrero and Hernandez

X-DIVISION TITLE MATCH
Kenny King vs. Zema Ion (champ)

TELEVISION TITLE MATCH
Kazarian vs. Devon (champ)

[Krimzon7]

any chance for a stream?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I checked for one and can't find one. :( Hopefully someone comes in for the save.

[Krimzon7]

here's crossing fingers

[Wake Up Call]

Check your rep boys

[Krimzon7]

much obliged

[Heisenberg]

I got one, sending your way Noid and Krimzon. Hit me up too Wake Up Call if yours falls through.

[Wake Up Call]

Mine never goes out. Watch UFC WWE TNA, not once has it went down. Check your rep Heisenberg

[Heisenberg]

Mine doesn't either, just like to hook ppl up just in case. I've been on many journeys the last years for a good site. :-)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Thanks, gentlemen. Good lord I am happy every time Heisenberg posts.

[Heisenberg]

What was the first match?

[Krimzon7]

I am becoming a fan of Heisenberg rapidly. Thank both of you gentlemen

[Krimzon7]

Kenderson!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Chavo Guerrero and Hernandez vs. Kid Kash and Gunner was the opener, I think.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope Magnus wins this match. He'd get the most out of it. I'm predicting RVD wins it, though.

[Wake Up Call]

Chavo and Hernadez vs Kid Kash and Gunner was match 1

[Heisenberg]

Ah ok, and now this BFG series match, not bad.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, RVD has been doing great work in this series. His psychology is spot-on -- something that a lot of people don't associate with RVD.

[Mr. Nerfect]

For a dude who is like 25, Magnus is fucking good.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Do RVD and The Pope exist anymore?

[Heisenberg]

RVD doesn't give a shit!!!!!! Took Anderson out! Nice spot.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, there's RVD.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've decided I'd mark the fuck out if Pope came out of nowhere, completely refreshed and won this match.

[Krimzon7]

WHERE'S THE POPE??!?!?!!?

[Wake Up Call]

I don't care how shitty the storylines are, TNA always has some great matches.

[Wake Up Call]

Pope got attacked by Aces and 8's before he made his entrance.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The storylines are getting better and better. There's even some good in the Daniels/AJ/Claire shit -- namely in Daniels being motivated by insecurity.

[Krimzon7]

You called RVD

These matches are fun.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Pope being taken out makes sense, actually. Keeps the Aces and Eights thing going, and three guys work better than four would in this match.

RVD won, which is good for him. I wish they'd give him better theme music, though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

For all the shit he gets for not changing up his move-set, RVD's work in this BFG Series being rewarded with a spot in the top four makes me happy.

[Wake Up Call]

I don't mind the music. Gets the fans going.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I could totally see Samoa Joe being bumped from the top four and getting really pissed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, nice, they do traditional backstage interviews on their PPVs.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Madison Rayne is definitely a boner machine.

[Krimzon7]

This should be fun.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Really love Christy Hemme as a ring announcer, and how the camera wants to have sex with her.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I really hope Kazarian wins here. The dude is a great worker and looks like a movie star. TNA should also try and get Lela Star to be his valet. :shifty:

[Wake Up Call]

Holy shit, how much weight has Dvon lost? He looks great

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like that TNA gave Devon the respect of having a decent singles title reign. I think it's time for a change, though.

[Krimzon7]

BONER MACHINE.

Testify looks so much like testicle.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The dude is over, too.

[Wake Up Call]

saved that botch.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Devon winning this wouldn't be bad. People love the guy.

[Krimzon7]

I'm still amazed at how 'well' that the Dudleys are doing on their own.

[Mr. Nerfect]

TNA have done a good job of letting them play characters they are comfortable with. Devon is a likeable chap and Bully Ray plays a natural asshole. I think both have felt something to prove as singles guys, too.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, say what you want, a Team 3D reunion down the track is going to be money for TNA.

[Mr. Nerfect]

GORE! GORE! GORE!

[Heisenberg]

I used to love using the Dudley Death Drop in wrestling games.

[Krimzon7]

There's a lot of praise for TNA coming from the forums lately. I gotta tell ya, This is my first time watching TNA in a long time. Gotta tell ya There's been some drastic improvement

[Krimzon7]

Brother worked an entire match with a gold chain on.
Brothas be stylin'!!!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Devon is having an amazing reign as TV Champion. I still think Nick Dinsmore should come in and win the title from him, though. Bring in Dinsmore as Garett's cousin beating him up to make Uncle Eric proud.

[Wake Up Call]

Good match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

LOL, Earl Hebner.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'd totally mark out if Earl Hebner screws Madison Rayne and is all "Bitch, I'm Earl Hebner and don't need you."

[Wake Up Call]

What do you think of this angle?

[Krimzon7]

I'd totally mark out if Earl Hebner screws Madison Rayne and is all "Bitch, I'm Earl Hebner and don't need you."

Earl has to keep his pimp hand strong. That would be amazing!!!!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'd also love it if Dave Hebner pretended to be Earl and tried to get him some boner machine.

[Heisenberg]

I miss Velvet Sky...

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't mind this angle. Madison Rayne is using her sexuality as a heel to get what she wants. It has to be the senior official, because he has the power to assign himself to her matches, presumably. I also like it when referees get mentioned by name and are treated as individuals.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I miss Velvet Sky...

Here, here.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think that Earl should probably screw Miss Tessmacher and her amazing ass here, with the pay-off of Brooke Hogan stopping Earl from assigning himself to her matches later.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It also wouldn't surprise me if this angle also leads to Earl losing his power -- he never refs the main events anymore -- Brian does that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

TNA needs to hire back Awesome Kong as soon as they can.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I really want Winter back, too. Would love to see her aligned with Doug Williams.

[Krimzon7]

Orlando Screw Job takes on so many meanings right here.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Orlando Screw Job takes on so many meanings right here.

That is an amazing post.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Madison Rayne is a great heel, and it'll be tremendous to see her fed to Kong.

[Wake Up Call]

Tessmacher has improved so much since the last time I saw here. Not bad for a women's match.

WWE should really give the Diva's more time too show what they can do

[Mr. Nerfect]

I would actually watch a sex tape between Madison Rayne and Earl Hebner, because I am fucking sick like that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There is money in female wrestling. It just needs to be done right.

[Krimzon7]

Gotta do my homework on this aces and eights

[Mr. Nerfect]

Bully Ray is great.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Aces and Eights could be the Nexus done right.

[Heisenberg]

Sons of Anarchy/nWo flavored stable...I'll see them out, always love stables.

[Wake Up Call]

Robbie E is struggling in the standings haha

[Mr. Nerfect]

I actually quite enjoy Robbie E. as a background heel.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Since WWE can't really do it well, as Vince is reportedly really out of touch with pop-culture -- TNA could really capture some imaginations by channelling shows like Sons of Anarchy to really create "on the pulse" television.

[Krimzon7]

That is an amazing post.

This is an amazing acknowledgement.


I'd be pissed if Zack Light would get over before the real WWW Kid could.


How is Jeff Hardy still employed?

Sting's steaming the Joker right now?

[Wake Up Call]

Hardy's face paint is awesome.


SORRY ABOUT YOUR DAMN LUCK!

[Heisenberg]

I hate country music, but I'm down with Cowboy James Storm.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've got to be honest -- I don't really care about James Storm as much as I feel I should. :-\

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jeff Hardy has reportedly transformed his entire act backstage. I hope so, because the dude has an undeniable connection with audiences.

[Heisenberg]

How is Jeff Hardy still employed?



I wondered that the same day, but YouTubed some of his ladder spots and remembered how bat-shit crazy he was.

Overlooking his legal troubles, he's great in-ring.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If this were an elimination rules, it would actually make total sense for all three guys to team up on James Storm and get him out early.

[Krimzon7]

I miss the Beer MONAYYYY theme. Sorry bout your damn luck is still one of my favorite catch phrases.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Being a father has probably helped out Jeff Hardy tremendously. I never thought it would be Matt Hardy I'd be hoping gets his shit together.

[Krimzon7]

lol at bully ray

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can't wait for Robbie to go nuts on Bully Ray in this match.

[Heisenberg]

LMAO!!!!!! Table is broke!!

[Krimzon7]

botch? Ray's in some pain.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Beautiful cover up there.

[Heisenberg]

That was an awkward couple of seconds silence by everyone on that botch...

[Mr. Nerfect]

I wonder what would happen if two guys put one guy through a table?

[Krimzon7]

what is that clusterfuck spot called?

[Mr. Nerfect]

That looked awkward...

I like that the Tower of Doom spot was teased earlier, and this match delivered it.

[Krimzon7]

I'd assume lowest man on totem would win.


Tower of Doom, thanks Noid.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If I were a kayfabe referee, I would probably say that match would continue until there was a definitive winner.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Bigger Rob is great in his role.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They're not quite Shawn Michaels and Diesel, of course, but I like it when heels have muscle to help them out.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Robbie E. is being really slow in this match. Something is really off about his pacing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

LOL at Robbie grabbing the referee's hand.

[Wake Up Call]

SHould be an elimination match instead. But its fine this way.

[Krimzon7]

ugh is HARDY running this group? I hope not.
Whisper in the wind is batshit crazy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The more this angle goes on, the more I think that Bobby Roode is going to be in cahoots with Aces and Eights.

[Heisenberg]

I don't think we'll see Hardy turn heel, his last heel run was terrible.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Really happy for Bully Ray!

[Krimzon7]

Sell that elbow. After powerbombing Hardy and doing a floatover the top rope.

[Wake Up Call]

Bully just said he things his arm is broken... That's not good

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't think Roode will be part of Aces and Eights, but I think he's partially responsible for forming the group or something. The financier. I'm sure they have other motives, though. Jeff Jarrett will likely be the dude that Roode got in touch with and formed the group using disgruntled talent that want opportunities. I can't help but think that Eric Bischoff will have something to do with the group, too.

[Krimzon7]

Kenny King!!!!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I really love Kenny King. He's like Shelton Benjamin but with better mic delivery.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kenny King should definitely win the X-Division Title tonight. Zema Ion has got tons of potential, but King is just overall more ready and the hotter commodity right now. Ion vs. Sorensen also doesn't need the title, and we won't be seeing that for quite a few months, anyway.

[Heisenberg]

Shelton Benjamin build/Jay Lethal's face type hybrid.

[Heisenberg]

Wasn't expecting this entrance music for Kenny King. lol

[Krimzon7]

This should be fun!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why TNA let Jay Lethal get away is still confusing to me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love how Zema Ion absolutely loathes the ozone layer.

[Heisenberg]

Yeah, his Macho Man gimmick was priceless.

[Mr. Nerfect]

On a recent Xplosion there was a really cool "TNA Today" segment that explained Zema Ion's "character" a lot more. His mother was a mail-order bride from the Philippines, and his father was like twenty years her senior. Zema's mother's dream was to be a fashion designer, hence the fashion symbols in Zema's gimmick.

[Mr. Nerfect]

LOL, Kenny King looking all cheeky with the headlock.

[Krimzon7]

Just ordered some Pizza Hut alfredo pasta. Gonna be delicious

[Mr. Nerfect]

"I'm not just pretty. I'm pretty dangerous."

Love Zema's catchphrase.

[Heisenberg]

Think we'll get some Joey Ryan action, I know it's a work, but it's different.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just ordered some Pizza Hut alfredo pasta. Gonna be delicious

Enjoy basking in deliciousness.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Think we'll get some Joey Ryan action, I know it's a work, but it's different.

I totally think we are building to Al Snow vs. Joey Ryan. And I actually care. I suppose I always loved Al Snow.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hi-ho! Hi-ho! We want Commissioner Snow!

[Heisenberg]

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j440/Marc_Oxenreider/AlSnow1.jpg

[Mr. Nerfect]

I would love to see Joey Ryan do a video on YouTube where he is destroying mannequin heads or something.

[Krimzon7]

fun match right here.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Go viral with Snow vs. Ryan.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Both men look like champs right now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kind of dissatisfied with Zema retaining. My guess is that Chavo Guerrero and Zema Ion now feud over who has the better Gory Bomb.

[Krimzon7]

Joe looks horrible.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Samoa Joe has been great lately.

[Wake Up Call]

Looking forward to this ladder match big time.

[Krimzon7]

Samoa Joe has been great lately.

Okay, I'm taking your word for it.

THANK GOD THAT AJ STYLES WENT BACK TO THIS GIMMICK, COSTUME AND MUSIC.

[Wake Up Call]

I could watch AJ wrestle all day.

Same with Angle

[Krimzon7]

CURRY MAN!!! I need to see the Curry Dance

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[Mr. Nerfect]

I had Kurt Angle as my prediction to win this thing, but I'm changing it to AJ Styles now. Styles still has got quite a few matches to have in the series (far more than anyone else), and I could see him coming out of nowhere to try and earn a top four spot. I can see Angle and Ray fighting over who gets to make the top four and who misses out.

[Heisenberg]

Kurt Fuckin' Angle!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Christopher Daniels is such a great heel.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Guys in TNA seem far more comfortable in their own skin than guys in the WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

LOL, everyone hates Daniels. Glorious.

[Krimzon7]

Christopher Daniels is such a great heel.

He's great.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love Joe's "just walk away from the high risk maneuver" spot.

[Krimzon7]

Guys in TNA seem far more comfortable in their own skin than guys in the WWE.

Do you think it has anything to do with a wrestling promotion actually wanting the talent to be wrestlers?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Senton followed by the stare into the camera. Awesome.

[Krimzon7]

and Kurt Angle looks fucking great!

I did enjoy that Senton Stare.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Do you think it has anything to do with a wrestling promotion actually wanting the talent to be wrestlers?

I think so. They let their guys do their own promos and such, and it all sounds far more natural.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'd love to see Kazarian help Daniels win here. That would be such logical heel work.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kurt Angle has found a niche as a dude who can be a face or a heel depending on the context. He's respected as a performer, but he'll do whatever he needs to do to get ahead.

[Heisenberg]

I like the mentions from him being Curry Man, I miss that run with Sharkboy, shit was amusing.

[Krimzon7]

I'd normally put some 'but that makes too much sense for the writers to do', but...

goddamn that slam Joe

...this ppv has impressed me immensely.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I would love to see Kurt Angle vs. Daniel Bryan, but I don't want either man to change promotions.

[Wake Up Call]

Jesus, Kurt proabanly has a headache lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

Beautiful selling of his absolute hatred for Daniels by Styles.

[Krimzon7]

Great DDT,
These fans are hilarious.

[Krimzon7]

Samoa Joe, where has this been?!?!

[Heisenberg]

Yeah, that one guy made it known that Daniels sucks...gotta feel sorry when guys try to get chants started, then get X-Pac'ed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Holy fuck! Muscle Buster/German suplex combo?!?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Daniels tapping to the Ankle Lock to put the hold over -- awesome.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Climb, Daniels, climb. This is Robbie E. style psychology.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm a mark for exploder suplexes.

[Heisenberg]

Angle has the better suplex, sorry Joe.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This suplex contest spot is incredible, haha.

[Heisenberg]

Awesome match

[taker707]

that was amazing by AJ.

[Wake Up Call]

Love that finish

[Heisenberg]

Somebody help Curry Man dammit!

[Krimzon7]

cat like reflexes. amazing match

[Mr. Nerfect]

Styles winning make perfect sense. I would not be surprised if Styles snatches this entire series, actually.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was hoping for Daniels vs. Styles vs. Joe, Angle vs. Aries and Roode vs. Storm at BFG, though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The stories going forward will likely be Angle and Ray fighting over that definitive fourth place, and Styles trying to claw his way up those two spots.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's kind of refreshing to be watching a PPV where the World Title is in the main event. I'm just a traditionalist that way.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The stipulation has made me think that it's possible Aries gets screwed here. :(

[Mr. Nerfect]

I totally want to see Roode submit to the Last Chancery, though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm actually emotionally invested in this match. Kudos, TNA.

[Indifferent Clox]

in need of stream please

[Mr. Nerfect]

If Roode loses this match, shouldn't he hypothetically put a hit on Austin Aries' head? That would be a pretty entertaining storyline.

[Wake Up Call]

Check rep

[Mr. Nerfect]

Austin Aries wearing the same cape he wore when he won the World Title. Psychology.

[Wake Up Call]

Im thinking Ace's and 8's gets involved here at some point.

I also love the main event is for the title, and the champ actually comes out last.

[Heisenberg]

Plenty of time to have a legit match and squeeze in the Ace's and 8's.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fucking great! The water in the face.

[Mr. Nerfect]

On Impact this past week, Roode splashed Aries in the face with water. That was a brilliant way to start this match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Roode should lose here and then offer to pay Aces and Eights to take out Aries.

[Wake Up Call]

CFL mention! Oh Canada!!!!

[Heisenberg]

Hope that lady is proud of herself...yelling at Aries after that painful spot.

[Wake Up Call]

I am all bark, no bite apparently :shifty:

[Mr. Nerfect]

I could see the World Title match at No Surrender being Austin Aries vs. a heel managed by Bobby Roode. Bully Ray makes sense given his past relationship with Roode and rivalry with Aries, but I could also see it being Daniels.

[Heisenberg]

Holy Dropkickin' Christ, that was sick.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Using Roode's own submission move now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Perfect spot to show the heart of Austin Aries.

[Krimzon7]

that was DEEEEE FUCKING LICIOUS.

and this match has been absolutely fun. That dropkick was soo damn mint. I almost dropped my plate. Almost, TNA, ALMOST

[Heisenberg]

Was waiting for Taz to say something unintelligent like, "Folks, that is legal in this match. He goes for a move, and steals his opponent's finisher, totally legal here at TNA!"

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love Aries' missile dropkick.

[Krimzon7]

Mike Tenay, ladies and gentlemen.

Full extension on the missle dropkick

[Mr. Nerfect]

Would totally be OK with this actually going to a time limit draw.

[Krimzon7]

Jesus that looked, oh goodness.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Brian Hebner's dead!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Spear with delayed count spot to protect Roode.

[Heisenberg]

Feels awkward when Tenay and Taz try and play off each other, which is all the time.

[Heisenberg]

Brian Hebner! BRIAN HEBNER! THEY BAWGAWD PUT HIS ASS THROUGH A TABLE!!! DAMMIT!! - J.R.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That second referee bump seems completely unnecessary, haha.

[Krimzon7]

Brain Buster is such a Garvin move. Kudos to him for reaching back to the 80's for that move.

[Krimzon7]

cluster fuck finish???? NO JESUS NO!!!!

Earl fix this shit.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, that's why. Don't know how I feel about that.

[Heisenberg]

Earl Hebner, BAWGAWD TOOK THE DAMN BELT!!!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Shouldn't Brian Heber, as the assigned official, have the right to say who wins this match?

[Mr. Nerfect]

YES! Senior official to the rescue!

[Heisenberg]

Nice swerve. Don't mess this up TNA.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Restarted! TNA learning!

[Krimzon7]

That's bullshit i'm the champ

[Krimzon7]

I am impressed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That was awesome!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Amazing story told there. Both those men are superstars.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Total Nonstop Aries.

[Heisenberg]

That was a pretty good overall, a lot of actual wrestling.

[Krimzon7]

That No Surrender logo looks an awful lot like Captain america's shield.

[Wake Up Call]

I think they executed that perfectly.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It really does.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think they executed that perfectly.

Absolutely. That was a truly epic match. They also didn't have any Aces and Eights interference, which I think was entirely the right decision to make.

[Wake Up Call]

I loved all the wrestling. No bullshit "comedy" match, no long interviews, no crappy women's match, just wrestling.

How long have they been doing this? I haven't watched for quite a long time.

[Swiss Ultimate]

There was a women's match on the card. :(

[Wake Up Call]

I loved all the wrestling. No bullshit "comedy" match, no long interviews, no crappy women's match, just wrestling.

How long have they been doing this? I haven't watched for quite a long time.

There was a women's match on the card. :(

It was a good match, good story.

[Krimzon7]

TNA has managed to pull me in. I will be watching the next Impact...if somebody reminds me.

[Heisenberg]

I DVR Impact Wrestling, it's a work in progress, but damn, the PPV was very impressive.

[erickman]

I DVR Impact Wrestling, it's a work in progress, but damn, the PPV was very impressive.

thats how i do all my wrestling i can watch all 5 hours of raw and smackdown in 2 hours

[Heisenberg]

thats how i do all my wrestling i can watch all 5 hours of raw and smackdown in 2 hours

Yeah, I have been getting into chatting on the forums for Raw, but tonight my oldest starts his football practice and I wanted to be there for that, so I'll probably be late to the thread posting.

Smackdown and Impact I like to save for the weekend and breeze through all of it unless it's interesting.