Best Wrestler #9

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Round 1 is in the books. A few great matches, a few blowouts. Now we start Round 2. And folks, I've looked at the matchups and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, Round 2 is going to cum all over the best set of tits you've ever seen. And it starts with a battle that can only happen when Mega Powers explode!

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"Macho Man" Randy Savage

vs.

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Hulk Hogan




3 days.



<select><option selected="selected">Best Wrestler Tournament History</option><option>ROUND 1</option><option>#1. Randy Savage vs. Taz (72-4)</option><option>#2. The Undertaker vs. Steve Austin (42-42)</option><option>#3. Chris Jericho vs. Jake Roberts (52-15)</option><option>#4. Bret Hart vs. CM Punk (44-24)</option><option>#5. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (27-31)</option><option>#6. Mick Foley vs. Kurt Angle (18-41)</option><option>#7. Eddie Guerrero vs. Shawn Michaels (13-50)</option><option>#8. Chris Benoit vs. Hulk Hogan (28-36)</option><option>ROUND 2</option></select>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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[Supreme Olajuwon]

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[#1-norm-fan]

... Well, fuck.

[#1-norm-fan]

Kinda wish Benoit had won the last one now to make this easier...

[Wishbone]

Wow... this is like asking which of your children do you love more... uh... I guess Hogan based solely on the fact that he had a slightly bigger impact on the business.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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[#1-norm-fan]

Wow... this is like asking which of your children do you love more... uh... I guess Hogan based solely on the fact that he had a slightly bigger impact on the business.

I'd say more than slightly...

[Kane Knight]

I liked Savage more as a kid. That's it.

[Wishbone]

I'd say more than slightly...

Notice I said on the business and not outside the business. Hogan is bigger world wide and non-wrestling fans know who he is, but any fan of wrestling even the kiddies recognize Macho Man just as well as Hogan. Hogan had a MUCH bigger impact on the world but Savage and him both had huge impacts in the wrestling world.

[Kane Knight]

Notice I said on the business and not outside the business. Hogan is bigger world wide and non-wrestling fans know who he is, but any fan of wrestling even the kiddies recognize Macho Man just as well as Hogan. Hogan had a MUCH bigger impact on the world but Savage and him both had huge impacts in the wrestling world.

One could argue they are one and the same in the larger picture. Not entirely sure if I agree with that, but I can see where he could be coming from.

[Skippord]

I love Slim Jims

[#1-norm-fan]

Notice I said on the business and not outside the business. Hogan is bigger world wide and non-wrestling fans know who he is, but any fan of wrestling even the kiddies recognize Macho Man just as well as Hogan. Hogan had a MUCH bigger impact on the world but Savage and him both had huge impacts in the wrestling world.

I'd still say business-wise it's Hogan and then a pretty big gap. Hogan in his time was THE guy and everyone else was just a supporting character. Granted that Savage was arguably THE top supporting character but as far as who helped the business thrive, I don't think it's that close.

Are they close to the same level as far as recognition within wrestling? Yeah. You'd be hard pressed to find any wrestling fans who don't know of either one. But there's a difference between being recognizable within the business and having an impact on the business. On the latter, I don't think it's that close.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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[Wishbone]

I'd still say business-wise it's Hogan and then a pretty big gap. Hogan in his time was THE guy and everyone else was just a supporting character. Granted that Savage was arguably THE top supporting character but as far as who helped the business thrive, I don't think it's that close.

Are they close to the same level as far as recognition within wrestling? Yeah. You'd be hard pressed to find any wrestling fans who don't know of either one. But there's a difference between being recognizable within the business and having an impact on the business. On the latter, I don't think it's that close.

True enough I suppose. It's all about perception I guess. Honestly though I'd think that given the fact that allot of guys seem to imitate Macho Man even today that he's got a very lasting legacy in the business. He may not have made nearly as much money as Hogan but he must have done something right to get so many people to 'channel' his stuff over the years.

[Lock Jaw]

As a kid, I enjoyed Randy Savage more.

As a teen, I enjoyed Hollywood Hogan more.

As an "adult", I enjoy Randy Savage more. Talking about when I go back and watch old stuff obviously.

Macho Man wins two falls out of three.

[Wishbone]

I don't know I guess I'm looking at it from a fan perspective instead of a business one. I mean do you think that kids today who love wrestling are gonna look back and think only of Cena when they remember WWE? I gotta believe guys like Orton, HHH, and even Punk will be regarded as legends in their time.

[Kane Knight]

I don't know I guess I'm looking at it from a fan perspective instead of a business one. I mean do you think that kids today who love wrestling are gonna look back and think only of Cena when they remember WWE? I gotta believe guys like Orton, HHH, and even Punk will be regarded as legends in their time.

That doesn't mean they're remotely equivalent. I mean, the Rock and Austin are thenames of the Attitude Era, and while there were others, the recognition falls off starting right there.

[Wishbone]

That doesn't mean they're remotely equivalent. I mean, the Rock and Austin are thenames of the Attitude Era, and while there were others, the recognition falls off starting right there.

Exactly but Hogan and Macho Man were basically the Rock and Austin of the 80's.

[Lock Jaw]

I don't ever look at it in terms of who "did more for the business". I look at who entertained me the most.

[Wishbone]

On another note I just realized that this may be the first time in wrestling that there hasn't been 2 'top' guys. I mean look at the 80's and even early 90's you got Macho and Hogan, you arguably had Bret and HBK for a while, and the Attitude Era had Rock and Austin, but since then it's been sorta bleh. Then comes Super Cena but to this day we don't have another side to that coin. Makes me sad really. :'(

[Wishbone]

I don't ever look at it in terms of who "did more for the business". I look at who entertained me the most.

Well from that standpoint I stand by my vote then as I've enjoyed Hogan's work since I was a kid but allot of Macho's stuff never got me interested until I went back and saw it again recently.

[Wishbone]

'Course my whole outlook on this one is from looking back as I didn't start watching until the mid 90's when both guys were starting to 'step down' a bit.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

On another note I just realized that this may be the first time in wrestling that there hasn't been 2 'top' guys. I mean look at the 80's and even early 90's you got Macho and Hogan, you arguably had Bret and HBK for a while, and the Attitude Era had Rock and Austin, but since then it's been sorta bleh. Then comes Super Cena but to this day we don't have another side to that coin. Makes me sad really. :'(

Ah so this is why CM Punk was mad.

[Juan]

Fuck it, Savage.

[Keith]

You know how I said in the last poll, which was between Hogan and Benoit, that there were only a couple of people that I'd vote over Hulk Hogan but Chris Benoit isn't one of them?

Well, my friends, Randy Savage is.

"Macho Man" all the way.

[Wishbone]

Ah so this is why CM Punk was mad.

Nah he's made cause Cena made him ride his stupid car and never paid him with the large fry he promised.

[Wishbone]

mad even

[Rock Bottom]

Exactly but Hogan and Macho Man were basically the Rock and Austin of the 80's.

Yeah, and Adam West was the Christian Bale of the 60's.

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no they werent. shut up.

anyway, voting for Hogan.

[Keith]

Randy Savage was a better wrestler, had more charisma, and was better on the mic than Hulk Hogan.

Every "Macho Man" promo was unique, where Hogan did the same shit over and over again.

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't ever look at it in terms of who "did more for the business". I look at who entertained me the most.

I do too. And even then, something just makes me wanna go Savage. I feel like I'm brainwashed a little into remembering being more entertained by Hogan than I really was and less entertained by Savage than I really was by the way I've seen them since their WWF days.

[CSL]

Exactly but Hogan and Macho Man were basically the Rock and Austin of the 80's.

Hogan was the Rock and Austin of the 80's. Nobody comes remotely close to touching him in that regard, not even (for all of his greatness) Randy Savage.

Randy Savage was a better wrestler, had more charisma, and was better on the mic than Hulk Hogan.

Every "Macho Man" promo was unique, where Hogan did the same shit over and over again.

I don't know if you're being serious here

[Keith]

Oh, I definitely am being serious.

It's not even close.

[CSL]

lol I see

[Keith]

If you want to vote for Hogan over Savage in terms of overall impact on the wrestling business, bringing exposure to the wrestling business and merchandise sales, go ahead.

But you can't say he was a better in-ring performer or was better on the mic than "Macho Man".

[CSL]

I didn't say who I think is better in those regards. But to flat out say Savage was the better promo guy and especially the more charismatic guy and it's not even close is complete (excuse the pun) madness.

[Keith]

LOL come on, dude.

[CSL]

same goes for every Savage promo being unique and Hogan "doing the same shit".

[CSL]

LOL come on, dude.

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You're remembering Hogan's catchphrases and forgetting everything that came in between whilst forgetting that Savage did pretty much the same thing. They cut very similar promos. They were both great, especially from 1986-ish through to around 1989/1990.

[Keith]

Ok.

[CSL]

By all means feel free to show me differently.

[CSL]

You're flat out wrong on the charisma part though http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Keith]

LOL I'm done, brah.

[Skippord]

Macho Man's outfits were also way cooler

[CSL]

LOL I'm done, brah.

this doesn't surprise me

Macho Man's outfits were also way cooler

Savage had a crown at one point. That's just borderline unfair.

[Skippord]

Crowns do give you an advantage in every situation

[CSL]

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Haku agrees

[Skippord]

why can't I vote for Haku as Best Wrestler?

[CSL]

blame Destor. It's always his fault.

[Skippord]

fucking Destor, Haku would fuck your mother if your mother were cleaner

[Rammsteinmad]

Savage easily.

[Shisen Kopf]

Who had the better rap cd?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Hogan because I liked him more.

[Heisenberg]

Who had the better rap cd?

"Hey Curt we miss you but we know you're in a better place
It's kinda hard as time goes on and I don't see your face
So I'm clinchin' and I'm holdin' on to memories
Remember the times rollin' strong just you and me
It's real hard sometimes to keep it goin' day to day
But I know you wouldn't want it any other way
So I keep it movin' doin' what I gotta do
And as a tribute I'm dedicating this song to you"

OHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH


Macho Man easily on this one.

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[Joesgonnakillyou]

The only person I would have trouble voting Savage over would be Austin

[jskinnyg]

I liked Savage more as a kid. That's it.

That is the only way I can decide this... Then again... NWO...

[Wishbone]

The whole argument about hogan doing "The same old shit" is kinda dumb considering to some degree EVERY wrestler does that especially Macho Man. Also they both oozed charisma but I do have to agree that Macho seemed like he had a tad bit more to offer and his ring work was higher caliber. Still Hogan is Hogan so *shrug*.

[Wishbone]

Yeah, and Adam West was the Christian Bale of the 60's.

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no they werent. shut up.

anyway, voting for Hogan.

That's a really stupid comment there man... like seriously. Comparing Hogan and Macho to Adam West and Christian Bale to Rock and Austin? The fuck you smokin'? :wtf: Also I'm not saying they were in terms of character or anything remotely close to that I'm saying that in terms of being the top guys at the time they were. Everyone thinks that Stone Cold was as big a star as Rocky but honestly most non-wrestling fans today who never watched it can't quite remember who he was whereas Rocky is known world wide thanks to his 'success' outside wrestling.

[Indifferent Clox]

can't believe benoit didn't win

[Wishbone]

can't believe benoit didn't win

Benoit? Who the hell is Benoit? :shifty: but seriously man you can't believe he lost to Hulk fucking Hogan? Really? :wtf:

[Indifferent Clox]

there's just this general disdain for Hogan on the boards. That plus the way Savage is beating him, just would seem to point to different results. Not saying I disagree with the results necessarily, I just find it extremely odd.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Yeah I was quite surprised Hogan beat Benoit too. It's the right result, but thought Benoit was adored/Hogan was disliked by too many people here.

[Gertner]

Hogan. Not even close. Go jack off workrate fags.

[James Steele]

Keith is like some shitty 5-eyed 1-armed bastard child of SammyG and St. Jimmy.


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"I'm done, brah."

[whiteyford]

Who had the better rap cd?

Can't see past this argument really, Savage gets my vote.

[CSL]

you people make me sick. The Wrestling Boot Band > anything on Savage's rap CD

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[CSL]

Heath Slater would be ridiculously disappointed with you pee-po

[VSG]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[MoFo]

Savage and Warriah are the only two guis I am voting over Hogin

[Emperor Smeat]

Hogan

[Nicky Fives]

still can't vote for Hogan.....

[XCaliber]

Hogan cuz he was involved in more great moments otherwise i'd say there pretty much on par with one another.

[Keith]

Keith is like some shitty 5-eyed 1-armed bastard child of SammyG and St. Jimmy.


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"I'm done, brah."

Fuck him! He can't even grow his hair long, he's got to wear extensions!

[Theo Dious]

Look people, ONE of these men is constantly credited with having the best Wrestlemania match of all time. That should say all that's needed.

[#1-norm-fan]

Look people, ONE of these men is constantly credited with having the best Wrestlemania match of all time.

You might be overrating Hogan-Rock just a tad.

:shifty:

[Curd]

Savage had the better music album, but Hogan was already The Man (and not just for being booked over Flair many times) so that when Macho challenged Hogan to "Be a Man," Hulkster never acknowledged the call-out but still won the publicity feud.

[Kane Knight]

Exactly but Hogan and Macho Man were basically the Rock and Austin of the 80's.

I'd say he still comes after the comma, but it's interesting the way you're saying "exactly" to an argument contrary to your prior point.

[Krimzon7]

Randy Savage in a landslide here folks.

[Krimzon7]

WOO WOO WOO!!!!! The climb back to the top begins now.

[Krimzon7]

nevermind. :nono:

[Skippord]

you people make me sick. The Wrestling Boot Band > anything on Savage's rap CD

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That capture is fucking terrifying

[Arashi Kage]

Following LockJaw's format here:

As a kid, I enjoyed Hulk Hogan slightly more.

As a teen, I enjoyed Hollywood Hogan more.

As an "adult", I enjoy Randy Savage more. Talking about when I go back and watch old stuff obviously.

Hulk Hogan wins two falls out of three.

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For me, this is too close to call. It's one of those match-ups where you hate to choose and wish it could be a tie, lol. But I'll go with Hogan here.