Best Wrestler #11

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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Chris Jericho

vs.

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Kurt Angle




3 days.



<select><option selected="selected">Best Wrestler Tournament History</option><option>ROUND 1</option><option>#1. Randy Savage vs. Taz (72-4)</option><option>#2. The Undertaker vs. Steve Austin (42-42)</option><option>#3. Chris Jericho vs. Jake Roberts (52-15)</option><option>#4. Bret Hart vs. CM Punk (44-24)</option><option>#5. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (27-31)</option><option>#6. Mick Foley vs. Kurt Angle (18-41)</option><option>#7. Eddie Guerrero vs. Shawn Michaels (13-50)</option><option>#8. Chris Benoit vs. Hulk Hogan (28-36)</option><option>ROUND 2</option><option>#9. Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan (41-18)</option><option>#10. The Undertaker vs. Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels (14-22-26)</option></select>

[Keith]

Chris Jericho is great, but Kurt Angle may be the best of all time, neck and neck with HBK.

[Pintint]

Very hard choice. Kurt Angle wins by a hair. They are both extremely charismatic and amazing wrestlers, but I am just a bit more partial to Angle.

[#1-norm-fan]

... Goddammit. I have no idea.

[Tazz Dan]

Y2J is one of my all time favourites, but Angles has had so many great matches. Hard to go past him.

[#1-norm-fan]

Jesus. Just voted. Did not expect this result at this point.

[Lock Jaw]

.... This is probably going to be the hardest round for me to decide. Would not have minded this match for the finals.

[Lock Jaw]

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[Skippord]

I've never been the hugest Kurt Angle fan even though obviously he's awesome. Love Jericho though so I'm voting for him.

[Rock Bottom]

not close 4 me kirk angel all the way

[Nicky Fives]

Angle

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Very close. Gonna go with Jericho on this one though but will probably change my mind as soon as I vote.

[Rammsteinmad]

Jericho is to me what Triple H is to James Steele. Love the guy, and everything he does. Whether it's being the best in the world at what he does, or Fozzy, who are fucking awesome, or his two autobiographies, which are two of my favourite books. His dancing with the stars stuff was fun to watch, as was his time hosting that crappy gameshow, which was crap, but I watched it anyway because it was Chris Jericho, and all the crappy movies he's been in, which were also crap, but I still watched because Y2J was in them.

Jericho has gotten to where he is today, and at 40 years of age, not only is still looking fucking good, but he's still in great shape. He isn't broken down like Angle, nor is he a fucking raving lunatic like Angle. And yet, he's been in his fair share of five-star or dangerous matches, so there's no excuse that Angle "pushes himself harder".

Angle is fucking awesome, don't get me wrong. But quite simply, Chris Jericho is "the man".

[Cool King]

Jericho is to me what Triple H is to James Steele. Love the guy, and everything he does. Whether it's being the best in the world at what he does, or Fozzy, who are fucking awesome, or his two autobiographies, which are two of my favourite books. His dancing with the stars stuff was fun to watch, as was his time hosting that crappy gameshow, which was crap, but I watched it anyway because it was Chris Jericho, and all the crappy movies he's been in, which were also crap, but I still watched because Y2J was in them.

Jericho has gotten to where he is today, and at 40 years of age, not only is still looking fucking good, but he's still in great shape. He isn't broken down like Angle, nor is he a fucking raving lunatic like Angle. And yet, he's been in his fair share of five-star or dangerous matches, so there's no excuse that Angle "pushes himself harder".

Angle is fucking awesome, don't get me wrong. But quite simply, Chris Jericho is "the man".

This, and exactly this. 100%.

[DaveBrawl]

I've never been the hugest Kurt Angle fan even though obviously he's awesome. Love Jericho though so I'm voting for him.

I agree with Skippord.

[Ruien]

Kurt Angle is the best wrestler out there. Look at everyone who jumped/went to TNA and how many people actually had an impact. Jeff Hardy, RVD, Christian, etc etc and they did not do anything for TNA. Kurt Angle is the only wrestler to come, make a splash, and to continue to help make an impact in TNA.

[Rammsteinmad]

Not really lol. All joining TNA did was get him out of the mainstreams eye, which he was in whilst working for WWE.

[MoFo]

Went with Angle for no real reason, like them both and love most their matches.

[Gertner]

Angle easily.

[Kane Knight]

I had to stay true to Jericho. Angle is pehonemenal, and may be an overall GOAT, but personally....Y2J all the way.

[Destor]

i think kurt is better at everythin jericho is great at and kurt was viable as a top guy. angle EASY.

[Rammsteinmad]

i think kurt is better at everythin jericho is great at and kurt was viable as a top guy. angle EASY.

I dunno. Jericho seems to be doing a better job at protecting his Twitter account.

[itsmeJD]

I dunno. Jericho seems to be doing a better job at protecting his Twitter account.

Niggas be hackin...

[Joesgonnakillyou]

Jericho is to me what Triple H is to James Steele. Love the guy, and everything he does. Whether it's being the best in the world at what he does, or Fozzy, who are fucking awesome, or his two autobiographies, which are two of my favourite books. His dancing with the stars stuff was fun to watch, as was his time hosting that crappy gameshow, which was crap, but I watched it anyway because it was Chris Jericho, and all the crappy movies he's been in, which were also crap, but I still watched because Y2J was in them.

Jericho has gotten to where he is today, and at 40 years of age, not only is still looking fucking good, but he's still in great shape. He isn't broken down like Angle, nor is he a fucking raving lunatic like Angle. And yet, he's been in his fair share of five-star or dangerous matches, so there's no excuse that Angle "pushes himself harder".

Angle is fucking awesome, don't get me wrong. But quite simply, Chris Jericho is "the man".

Damn, This has made me regret my vote for Angle...

[Emperor Smeat]

Jericho

[KaosDarksol]

Jericho can still put on a great performance and doesn't let his band drop the level of his wrestling ability. Plus let's see if Kurt knows 1004 holds

[CSL]

Kurt. He's better in every single category.

love Jericho but he's consistently the most overrated wrestler on Earth in terms of so many people claiming he's the greatest ever with a straight face compared to how good he actually is

[Lock Jaw]

Jericho can still put on a great performance and doesn't let his band drop the level of his wrestling ability. Plus let's see if Kurt knows 1004 holds

Kurt still has some excellent matches. Dude can still go, but people dismiss him just because he is in TNA.

If he was in the WWE, I don't think there would be nearly this amount of questioning.

I think I've made my own decision as well. Throwing my weight behind Kurt Angle in this thing.

I had thought TPWW had turned against him because of him being in TNA (and being slightly crazy sometimes), but looks like I am being proven wrong.

[CSL]

Kurt today is still better than Jericho today

[Lock Jaw]

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[Rammsteinmad]

Jericho was a WCW mid-carder. Probably THE definition of "paying your dues" in professional wrestling.

[Lock Jaw]

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With a BROKEN FREAKIN' NECK

[Lock Jaw]

and all the crappy movies he's been in, which were also crap, but I still watched because Y2J was in them.

Kurt Angle is a much better actor, check this out, bro

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Classic piece of cinema history

[CSL]

lolllll

[Keith]

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With a BROKEN FREAKIN' NECK


It's crazy how after everything Kurt Angle has accomplished in professional wrestling, you sometimes forget he actually won an Olympic Gold Medal.

[XCaliber]

Very tough choice but I have to say Angle he was just slightly better when it comes to promos he varies a tad more where Jericho tends to be repetative.

[Juan]

Chris Jericho

[Shisen Kopf]

Angle easily.

And you call yourself a Canadian eh?

[Curd]

I voted Jericho because he managed to get over in WCW despite the bullsh*t pol*t*cs. Would Angle have been able to do the same? No one knows.

[Lock Jaw]

Of course he would have. He had an Olympic Gold Medal. That alone would have made WCW push him. Then, being ultra talented, he would have got over easily.

[James Steele]

FUCK, I don't know who to vote for. I love Chris Jericho but then all the awesome shit Angle has ever done pops up and makes me reconsider. I never really enjoyed "GRRR I'M GONNA KILL YOU" Kurt as much as goofy Kurt, but I don't know if that is enough to vote for Jericho. Both are amazing and among my TOP 5. I'll update you once I decide.

[#1-norm-fan]

This thing started out like 10-0 for Angle. Damn.

[Rammsteinmad]

Of course he would have. He had an Olympic Gold Medal. That alone would have made WCW push him. Then, being ultra talented, he would have got over easily.

What WCW are you talking about? :wtf:

[Joesgonnakillyou]

Holy Shit! Jericho's leading 24 to 23!

[itsmeJD]

Chris Jericho, with the TRIUMPHANT comeback! BAH GAWD business is about to pick up!

[Zeeboe]

Tough one, but I need to go with Kurt Angle.

[Lock Jaw]

What WCW are you talking about? :wtf:

One where Turd considered Jericho to have "gotten over" in. Angle could have been at least a midcarder as well, if that is what "getting over" means.

[Juan]

GO JERICHO GO!

[Lock Jaw]

Hot match right here. Would not mind either men winning. Will be a shame for either to be out of this, though.

[Curd]

One where Turd considered Jericho to have "gotten over" in. Angle could have been at least a midcarder as well, if that is what "getting over" means.

I have a stinking suspicion that Hogan, Nash, et al. would fear Kurt's success and sabotage long-term booking plans to delay a title reign, much like they did with Bret Hart, whom could have been used much better in WCW but was relegated to full-time Hogan lackey for most of 1998.

Although a match between Sting in his prime and a young Angle would have been great, there would have been many more dud bookings such as feuding with David Flair or Tank Abbott. WCW would have likely given Angle a U.S. Title run sometime in 2000, after it was too late to turn around the sinking ship. "New Blood" Angle could have been a preview of the WWE Psycho Angle, except with the Millionaire's Club (particularly DDP) booked to go over.

[Skippord]

I didn't even factor in intense ECW/angry mouthpiece Kurt Angle which was possibly my favorite Kurt Angle

[#1-norm-fan]

I didn't even factor in intense ECW/angry mouthpiece Kurt Angle which was possibly my favorite Kurt Angle

Seeing how the Hammerstein crowd would treat Kurt Angle as if he were an ECW original was awesome. Makes me sad ECW didn't work out. They could have built up that hardcore crowd without relying on old washed up ECW guys. They had the guys to do it.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Yeahhh like TEST!

[itsmeJD]

AND HARDCORE HOLLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW DO YA LIKE ME NOW!

[#1-norm-fan]

I didn't say they USED the right guys.

[loopydate]

What WCW are you talking about? :wtf:

Probably the one with the hard-on for "real" athletes. Rodman, Malone, Abbott, etc. You don't think Angle would have been pushed to the moon as the guy with a gold medal if it would get WCW on SportsCenter?

[Theo Dious]

Probably the one with the hard-on for "real" athletes. Rodman, Malone, Abbott, etc. You don't think Angle would have been pushed to the moon as the guy with a gold medal if it would get WCW on SportsCenter?

He would have been for a short time but I don't think he would have been cultivated and refined in WCW the way he was in WWE. WCW's hardon was really more for the fame of those guys you mentioned and not their athletic skill. (Also you left Jay Leno off that list.) The thing about Angle is that he knew damn near nothing about the business when he came in. He was brilliant in his first year in the WWF where he was put through a lot of comedy scenarios but was still capable of looking like a real threat. It was a masterful piece of booking that showcased his raw ability while giving him enough character to make him a draw to those who might not care about such things. I doubt WCW could ever pull off something like that.

Anyways I voted for Jericho because Angle never wore a Lite-brite jacket.

[Lock Jaw]

Team Angle Tracksuits > Lite-Brite Jacket

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[Keith]

^^^^
That's debatable.

Jericho's jacket is awesome.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Chris Jericho's WCW heel run is my favorite thing ever in wrestling.

That said, I can't vote against Kurt Angle.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Even Kurt's match with Jeff Hardy from this past Impact was awesome. Jericho's most recent run was completely underwhelming.

[James Steele]

After a long deliberation, I've cast my vote. Kurt Angle is truly amazing. Kurt Angle has given me many memories, but Chris Jericho has given me all that and then some. Chris Jericho was my 1st "favorite heel" in WCW. You never forget your 1st bad guy you love. Jericho's books were also amazing. While some here might say Chris Jericho is overrated, you could say the same thing about blowjobs. It may be true, but who gives a fuck because they are amazing.

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[Anybody Thrilla]

You're right about the first heel. It was Owen Hart for me.

[Ruien]

I hate you all.

[Curd]

He would have been for a short time but I don't think he would have been cultivated and refined in WCW the way he was in WWE. WCW's hardon was really more for the fame of those guys you mentioned and not their athletic skill. (Also you left Jay Leno off that list.) The thing about Angle is that he knew damn near nothing about the business when he came in. He was brilliant in his first year in the WWF where he was put through a lot of comedy scenarios but was still capable of looking like a real threat. It was a masterful piece of booking that showcased his raw ability while giving him enough character to make him a draw to those who might not care about such things. I doubt WCW could ever pull off something like that.


Indeed, and given Nash's booking power, Angle's success would have been partially determined by how well Big Sexy took a liking to young Kurt. Would Nash have seen Angle as just another "vanilla midget" despite the Olympic credentials? Other Olympians in WCW such as Ted Arcidi, Bill Kazmaier, and Chip Minton weren't used for much more than one or two years before being released from WCW. And I doubt Hogan would have used his creative control to build Angle.

[Saving Grace]

Polls closed but I'll give my TWO cents. I didn't vote and stayed impartial. Its 50/50 for me. Angle wins on pure athletic ability and wrestling talent. Not many guys have ever been able to match and do chain wrestling with Angle except Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, and Lesnar. Thats a quality I love and admire. On the other side Jericho wins purely on longevity of character development and his endless charisma. Both guys have good qualities, Angle is the better wrestler, but Jerich is the better entertainer. Out of respect for both, I conclude my opinion on the match to be a DRAW.

[Joesgonnakillyou]

Polls closed but I'll give my TWO cents. I didn't vote and stayed impartial. Its 50/50 for me. Angle wins on pure athletic ability and wrestling talent. Not many guys have ever been able to match and do chain wrestling with Angle except Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, and Lesnar. Thats a quality I love and admire. On the other side Jericho wins purely on longevity of character development and his endless charisma. Both guys have good qualities, Angle is the better wrestler, but Jerich is the better entertainer. Out of respect for both, I conclude my opinion on the match to be a DRAW.

Pussy ;)

[Rammsteinmad]

Incredible comeback from Jericho in this round! Either man deserved to win, but it really looked early on that Angle was gonna crush Jericho.

[Gertner]

Angle should have crushed Jericho

[Rammsteinmad]

But he didn't. :p

[Rammsteinmad]

Jericho is just the better artistic combatant.

[Ruien]

Angle should have crushed Jericho

[Cool King]

But he didn't. :p

[Cool King]

Jericho is just the better artistic combatant.