View Full Version : Should the WWE create a Three Man Tag Team Championship?
Mr. JL
05-09-2004, 02:07 AM
Should the WWE create a Three Man Tag Team Championship?
The current Tag Team Division has hit one of its all time lows. The division does not draw a cent. What better to do than to create a three man tag team championship? It'll get people talking and would certainly be new to the WWE. Of course by default, this championship would obviously be on RAW. But they would have to decide to drop the Two Man Tag Team Titles.
Would it work and perhaps become a draw? Good idea? Bad idea? Couldn't hurt?
KillerWolf
05-09-2004, 02:13 AM
NO.
Kane Knight
05-09-2004, 02:19 AM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck NO.
Mr. JL
05-09-2004, 02:25 AM
lol... sounds like its not a good idea.
Why not though?
Kane Knight
05-09-2004, 02:34 AM
I've never been a big fan of six man tags to begin with. More=/=better.
#1-norm-fan
05-09-2004, 02:40 AM
I believe they would be called 6-man tag titles...
But anyway, WCW tried that years ago and it didn't work. There are enough titles right now, no need to add more. Getting the tag division good is as simple as just making some good teams.
There is some good talent in OVW who could form tag teams upon their debuts. There are also talented guys already on both Raw and SD who, for whatever reason, aren't really ready to be huge solo stars.
Guys like Christian who are great but can't really hit their peak in a crowded upper card can team up with others in their same position. A couple weeks ago, I would have said Christian and Storm teaming up again would have been great but I guess that's out of the question now. Also, I'd like to see the worn out novelty of Rosey and The Hurricane break up finally and maybe have Hurricane and Tajiri for a legit tag team.
Wondermouse
05-09-2004, 02:46 AM
They can't even make the tag titles mean anything.
Corkscrewed
05-09-2004, 02:53 AM
If they cannot build respectable TWO man teams to establish a legitmate division, what makes you think they can make trios into great teams?
This idea would be better suited during a time when the tag division was hot, not when it's dead.
HeartBreakMan2k
05-09-2004, 03:11 AM
If they cannot build respectable TWO man teams to establish a legitmate division, what makes you think they can make trios into great teams?
This idea would be better suited during a time when the tag division was hot, not when it's dead.
Couldn't have said it better. Maybe if they had more groups like the Freebirds, or Triple X. Once they built a solid tag division, than groups like these could build a six man title but frankly they won't build a successful tag division again for a while.
Kane Knight
05-09-2004, 03:32 AM
Yeah, I guess you could make a justifiable argument for it if they had enough people to make it work.
However, if the tag team division's dead due to a lack of applicable workers, adding in another division (and paring down an already skinny division) wouldn't really work too well. Of cours, I don't think it'd work anyways. 6- and 8-man tags are decent once in a while, but I'd never see them being mainstream enough to be worth yet another belt.
I mean, damn. Like we don't have enough belt pollution... -
HankScorpio
05-09-2004, 09:12 AM
I bet you only posted this thread because you want to see Rikishi,S2H & GMS back together :lol: ;)
Dave Youell
05-09-2004, 09:32 AM
NO 6 mans, the main reason i would have is because the normal Tag situation is pretty ****ed right now anyway.
Plus 6 mans are good in small doses, every show would be supercrap
The CyNick
05-09-2004, 09:55 PM
No need to make another worthless title.
They cant manage to make a successful tag division, what makes you think they could make a successful 6-man tag division.
Make the title they have mean something, then an only then shoudl you consider making new titles.
Hey, remember WCW's Cruiserweight Tag Titles?
Did you guys think that was a good idea?
Even though WCW was drowning at the time, I personally found those matches to be the highlight of every show. If they added any titles to the WWE right now, I would love to see a Cruiserweight Tag Title on Velocity, which is where most of the cruiserweights are featured anyways.
The Ravishing One
05-10-2004, 08:42 AM
NO.
Ferocious
05-10-2004, 08:44 AM
Hey, remember WCW's Cruiserweight Tag Titles?
Did you guys think that was a good idea?
Even though WCW was drowning at the time, I personally found those matches to be the highlight of every show. If they added any titles to the WWE right now, I would love to see a Cruiserweight Tag Title on Velocity, which is where most of the cruiserweights are featured anyways.
Cruiser titles would be a good idea if the WWE had a decent normal tag division which unfortunately they don't. I mean they could push the cruisers in the normal tag division if they wanted to, But alas they don't seem to want to. Besides do you really want to see Molly Holly and Gail Kim as Cruiserweight Tag Team Champions?
Although Filthy Animals would be welcome to appear on my TV as Champions every week lets just say for now theres 'No Chance In Hell'.
Azriel
05-10-2004, 08:55 AM
Can you say overkill? No way would this work. If anything, RAW needs to bring back the Hardcore Title.
The Mackem
05-10-2004, 09:39 AM
Maybe on one show, possibly.
Hired Hitman
05-10-2004, 10:30 AM
Tag Matches are so good... too bad 'they' aren't making the tag teams good enough :/
Shaggy
05-10-2004, 10:31 AM
im going to have to say no to this. Sure the division is pretty low right now but I dont think adding in a 3 man tag title will work. It just wont be right. I dont think that the three man will be alot different from the original tag team matches. They just need to add some elements in the tag division right now, like some really good superstars and they can bring it back.
King Jericho
05-10-2004, 02:01 PM
No, I think they shouldn't, but instead of creating a new division they should concertrate on making the tag titles on both brands, a better division with more diversity and depth.
Smackdown was on its way, when they had Eddie and Chavo paired together, but they split up, which is a good thing because Eddie is champ, also they had TWGTT (Haas and Benjamin) which were an awesome team, but obviously they had to get split up some time or another because of there use and look of these guys in the single's division, also the Bashams, imo they aren't bad, they just need more of a push and an angle and they have it, it was on they way when they keep costing people singles matches by swapping places during mid match.
With the exception of The Rock and Sock Connection, DO NOT GIVE THE TITLES TO TWO GUYS WHO AREN'T A TAG TEAM.
When two guys, perfect example Edge and Benoit, win the titles, it makes other, proper tag teams look BAD, when they lose, usually when two guys are partnered together for the first time in a tag match against the champs, they win, which makes the proper team look weak, and causes the division to look weak. In the case of Benoit and Edge, them betting Batista and Flair still makes the division look weak, cos Flair and Batista are in a team.
They need to do what they did before, BRING IN YOUNG TALENT to the tag division, the brought in the Hardys, E+C, Dudleys etc etc, they need to start this again, say York and Matthews from ECW. :y:
No, I think they shouldn't, but instead of creating a new division they should concertrate on making the tag titles on both brands, a better division with more diversity and depth.
Smackdown was on its way, when they had Eddie and Chavo paired together, but they split up, which is a good thing because Eddie is champ, also they had TWGTT (Haas and Benjamin) which were an awesome team, but obviously they had to get split up some time or another because of there use and look of these guys in the single's division, also the Bashams, imo they aren't bad, they just need more of a push and an angle and they have it, it was on they way when they keep costing people singles matches by swapping places during mid match.
With the exception of The Rock and Sock Connection, DO NOT GIVE THE TITLES TO TWO GUYS WHO AREN'T A TAG TEAM.
When two guys, perfect example Edge and Benoit, win the titles, it makes other, proper tag teams look BAD, when they lose, usually when two guys are partnered together for the first time in a tag match against the champs, they win, which makes the proper team look weak, and causes the division to look weak. In the case of Benoit and Edge, them betting Batista and Flair still makes the division look weak, cos Flair and Batista are in a team.
They need to do what they did before, BRING IN YOUNG TALENT to the tag division, the brought in the Hardys, E+C, Dudleys etc etc, they need to start this again, say York and Matthews from ECW. :y:
This is all so true, but then again (and let's concentrate specifically on paragraph 3 here), what are the alternatives on Raw right now? La Resistance v2.07? Hurricane and Rosey? A bunch of others that I can neither remember nor get interested in when they all just get broken up after about two weeks anyway?
Half the problem comes with the way the belts are once again flying around from team to team every week while they try desperately to find a pairing that works long term. It sort of reminds me of 1999 all over again when the belts were changing hands every two weeks and it wasn't until Edge and Christian brought some respectability back to the titles that things slowed down and I started caring again. Same with 2001, except they didn't actually sort things out the next year particularly (unless you count Billy & Chuck's mildly sort of longish title reign, at least compared to everyone else and if you ignore the Rikishi-Rico angle which was pointless and went nowhere).
Actually it's the same on Smackdown. Rikishi and Scotty? Who cares? Rico and Haas? Hey, I like both guys individually (as I do Benoit and Edge) but slapping the belts on them on their first outing as a team (or second, or third... whatever) isn't going to appease me loads. And the Dudleys I've long since stopped caring about and the Bashams are OK but about as over as something else which gets very little reaction.
Frankly, they're better off right now creating some (IE lots - think back to when they had enough guys on their roster to have those huge 10 vs 10 Survivor Series matches) new teams with new guys or guys that have done jack for the last six months and establishing them all as proper tag teams, then giving the most over teams six months with the belts or something. Seriously, are tag team divisions really THAT hard to book? Create some teams, pair them all off in feuds, maybe give some of the heel teams a manager, then have Jesse Ventura talk about how the losers of the next match will drop down the imaginary ladder while the winners will probably get a tag title shot.
On a final note, a lesser man would note that they could be picking up guys who aren't doing anything, creating new teams and revitalising the division, but instead decide that they can't think of anything to do with either Kanyon or Sean O'Haire, but I'm above that so I won't.
I should have probably added an extra rule in creating teams that prohibits the WWE from breaking them up after two months to move one guy to the other show. Who wants to bet they do that with the Bashams sooner rather than later?
Pepsi Man
05-10-2004, 03:31 PM
If they cannot build respectable TWO man teams to establish a legitmate division, what makes you think they can make trios into great teams?
This idea would be better suited during a time when the tag division was hot, not when it's dead.
That's what I was about to say.
Lamuella
05-10-2004, 03:35 PM
disadvantages to this idea:
1) we don't have any 3 man teams
2) we have few proper tagteams defending the belts as it is.
3) we don't have any 3 man teams.
I know I said that last one twice, but it's a fairly huge point. You don't make a cruiserweight belt without cruiserweights. You don't make a 3 man tag belt without 3 man tag teams.
King Jericho
05-10-2004, 03:47 PM
This is all so true, but then again (and let's concentrate specifically on paragraph 3 here), what are the alternatives on Raw right now? La Resistance v2.07? Hurricane and Rosey? A bunch of others that I can neither remember nor get interested in when they all just get broken up after about two weeks anyway?
Half the problem comes with the way the belts are once again flying around from team to team every week while they try desperately to find a pairing that works long term. It sort of reminds me of 1999 all over again when the belts were changing hands every two weeks and it wasn't until Edge and Christian brought some respectability back to the titles that things slowed down and I started caring again. Same with 2001, except they didn't actually sort things out the next year particularly (unless you count Billy & Chuck's mildly sort of longish title reign, at least compared to everyone else and if you ignore the Rikishi-Rico angle which was pointless and went nowhere).
Actually it's the same on Smackdown. Rikishi and Scotty? Who cares? Rico and Haas? Hey, I like both guys individually (as I do Benoit and Edge) but slapping the belts on them on their first outing as a team (or second, or third... whatever) isn't going to appease me loads. And the Dudleys I've long since stopped caring about and the Bashams are OK but about as over as something else which gets very little reaction.
Frankly, they're better off right now creating some (IE lots - think back to when they had enough guys on their roster to have those huge 10 vs 10 Survivor Series matches) new teams with new guys or guys that have done jack for the last six months and establishing them all as proper tag teams, then giving the most over teams six months with the belts or something. Seriously, are tag team divisions really THAT hard to book? Create some teams, pair them all off in feuds, maybe give some of the heel teams a manager, then have Jesse Ventura talk about how the losers of the next match will drop down the imaginary ladder while the winners will probably get a tag title shot.
On a final note, a lesser man would note that they could be picking up guys who aren't doing anything, creating new teams and revitalising the division, but instead decide that they can't think of anything to do with either Kanyon or Sean O'Haire, but I'm above that so I won't.
I meant to talk about RAW, thought I had but missed it out.
Firstly, I think if teams that are paired together need to be pushed together correctly, but of course anyone can say that, because any angle that is ever created all depends on the push of the angle. But if they push these paired off tag teams and make then win the titles, then they need to be pushed together for the next two months, or at least not break them up like you said 91, for at least 2-3 months. Also if these teams are to be paired off, then one member of the team should not be another title holder, again in the case of Benoit. To me it just makes the tag and singles champion look bad or weak.
Obviously, over the past few weeks, the WWE has been trying to establish titles more and more, having champions hold on to the titles longer (Orton with the I.C, Big Show (even though he didnt really defend it much) with the U.S, Cena now with the U.S, and Chavo (before this awful Jackie angle) with the C.W title). They need to do the same with the tag titles, which goes back to what has been said, AT LEAST establish two teams, on each show that are legit contenders and proper teams for the tag titles. If you had two teams on each brand, one team would keep the titles and defend against a more lackluster team in say, Rikishi and Scotty, and push them with the titles, while the other team has an angle with say the Dudleys. Then after say 1 and a half months, have the team fued with the others, then have them drop the titles to this other team, and make them fued with the former champions for a while, while the other team fued with the champions teams that they fueded with. Then eventually lose the titles back to the other champions again after their legit title run. Then at least this gives time for other teams to be established and/or brought in.
And yes, I have also gone off the dudleys, they also need a new gimmick/look.
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