Jason Aldean - Night Train [Archive]

James Steele

10-17-2012, 12:30 AM

I like a couple Jason Aldean songs. For the most part though, he sounds like most every other guy that's "broken into" country music over the last 10 years or so. A lot of twang and just singing a shitload of songs about the south and how country they are.

May not be original or anything, but some of his songs are awesome for driving around in your truck or getting hammered with your redneck buddies.

10-17-2012, 02:12 AM

Brantley Gilbert wrote a lot of his songs. I'm glad Brantley Gilbert has gotten his own career going because he is awesome. I got to see him live before "Country Music Must Be Country Wide" became a hot single and propelled him to super stardom.

His album is pretty solid. Theres a couple of soft songs, but they're catchy.

DaveBrawl

10-17-2012, 11:12 AM

I've only heard a couple of the songs, but they were pretty great.

I heard part of "The Only Way I Know" yesterday with Luke Bryan and Eric Church. I loved what I heard until I went under an overpass and lost satellite signal.

DaveBrawl

10-17-2012, 11:18 AM

I like a couple Jason Aldean songs. For the most part though, he sounds like most every other guy that's "broken into" country music over the last 10 years or so. A lot of twang and just singing a shitload of songs about the south and how country they are.
There have been a few of them especially recently, but I have to say I prefer them to the Rascal Flatts/Keith Urban/Hunter Hayes pop music style that seems even more prevalent.

#1-norm-fan

10-17-2012, 12:50 PM

It all seems fake. I'm sure the guys are very "country" but Jesus Christ, singing about how country you are and how much you love country and stuff... it all just comes off as trying to please the "simple folk".

And sadly it works since they seem to all be successful. It's like they're going out of their way to fit into every stereotype that country music has had for ages. Southern/redneck pride is one thing. It's become a parody of itself though. It's basically all you hear anymore.

James Steele

10-17-2012, 12:55 PM

It all seems fake. I'm sure the guys are very "country" but Jesus Christ, singing about how country you are and how much you love country and stuff... it all just comes off as trying to please the "simple folk".

And sadly it works since they seem to all be successful. It's like they're going out of their way to fit into every stereotype that country music has been for ages.

"Texas Country" is where it is at. Check out the following bands: Whiskey Myers, Randy Rodgers Band, and Reckless Kelly. They are 3 of my favorites. Whiskey Myers is a relatively unknown band, but they are from my region of Texas and they are amazing.

#1-norm-fan

10-17-2012, 12:55 PM

I wanna write a song called "I'm So Country My Dog's Got a Truck" and watch it skyrocket to the top of the charts just because it has a lot of rednecky references in it.

#1-norm-fan

10-17-2012, 12:55 PM

"Texas Country" is where it is at. Check out the following bands: Whiskey Myers, Randy Rodgers Band, and Reckless Kelly. They are 3 of my favorites. Whiskey Myers is a relatively unknown band, but they are from my region of Texas and they are amazing.

I'm a huge fan of Bruce and Charlie Robison.

James Steele

10-17-2012, 01:00 PM

James Steele

10-17-2012, 01:05 PM

I feel like we've had this discussion before.

James Steele

10-17-2012, 01:06 PM

#1-wwf-fan, we should discuss country music together some time. Perhaps on a a certain kind of night...

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:shifty::naughty:

James Steele

10-17-2012, 01:09 PM

weather vane

10-17-2012, 01:24 PM

Who gives a fuck if you write your own music?

#1-norm-fan

10-17-2012, 01:29 PM

Justin Moore is the current country guy I can't determine if I like him or not. I can listen to him when I'm drunk, but he is one of the guys going with the "Badass Redneck Whoopin' Pretty Boy City Slicker Asses" theme.

I seriously can't distinguish one from another anymore. Often times when someone mentions a name I'll just wikipedia their discography to see their songs. Gonna do that right now...

#1-norm-fan

10-17-2012, 01:31 PM

James Steele

10-17-2012, 01:35 PM

Who gives a fuck if you write your own music?

I won't NOT listen to an artist if they don't write their own stuff, but if they do it gives me more respect and such for them as artists.

James Steele

10-17-2012, 01:38 PM

Got it. Justin Moore. I remember not minding "Small Town USA" as much as most of the songs like it. "Backwoods" was everything that makes me facepalm while listening to current country music. Haven't really hear much from him past that.

He also sang hits such as "He Can't Even Bait A Hook", "I Could Kick Your Ass", and "Back That Thing Up".

I hate his one album cover.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/17/Justin_Moore_(album_cover_art).jpg/220px-Justin_Moore_(album_cover_art).jpg
http://cdn.sparkart.net/bigmachinerecords/content/media_clip_images/1318980052.82179.ScreenShot20111014at14913PM.jpg

Don't even look like the same person.

#1-norm-fan

10-17-2012, 01:42 PM

Judging solely from the titles of those songs, I will never listen to his music.

#1-norm-fan

10-17-2012, 01:44 PM

"Back That Thing Up"

He even covers the even more annoying "Trying to be 'hip but rednecky' by using hip hop slang" genre that that fucker Trace Adkins started.

James Steele

10-17-2012, 01:46 PM

Fuck you, "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" is a timeless classic that I will share with my children.

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#1-norm-fan

10-17-2012, 01:47 PM

lol. Everytime he says "Ooo-eee, shut my mouth, slap yo grandma" I literally do a full body cringe.

DaveWadding

10-17-2012, 01:47 PM

You know who I like? Easton Corbin.

James Steele

10-17-2012, 01:47 PM

:lol:

On the "Honky Tonk Badonkdonk" vevo page on Youtube, it has Justin Bieber and some white chick who looks like she is tripping on acid for the background.

#1-norm-fan

10-17-2012, 01:54 PM

http://i3.ytimg.com/u/2kTZB_yeYgdAg4wP2tEryA/new_watch_background.jpg?v=507d9d73

#1-norm-fan

10-17-2012, 01:55 PM

Not a white chick. I can see how that mistake can be made though.

10-17-2012, 02:00 PM

I like Eli Young Band and Luke Bryan a lot.

10-17-2012, 02:02 PM

I also like that new Rascal Flatts song and the one they did with that chick about going out on Friday nights or something.

I'm pretty gay for country. I dont mind admitting it. I love the music. Maybe it's a Indiana thing. I like all kinds of music, but i like Country the most right now because it's simple and just good stuff.

10-17-2012, 02:04 PM

Kiss Tommorow Goodbye by Luke Bryan is probably my favorite song right now. I like Lee Brice too. Hard To Love is a great song.

James Steele

10-17-2012, 02:05 PM

Is that Nicki Minaj?

James Steele

10-17-2012, 02:16 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/video/2012/oct/17/ginnys-little-longhorn-chicken-shit-bingo-austin-video

A bar in Austin,TX has a winning formula to bring in crowds on Sunday nights: live music, cheap beer, free chili dogs, and "Chicken Shit Bingo".

DaveBrawl

10-17-2012, 02:22 PM

Is that Nicki Minaj?

Yeah.

I didn't really care for "Back That Thing Up" but I pretty much love the rest of Justin Moore's stuff.

Also Eric Chruch. Creepin' is probably my favorite current song.

weather vane

10-17-2012, 05:36 PM

Eric Church, Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, Keith Urban, and Dierks Bentley...

Those are the boys!

#1-norm-fan

10-17-2012, 07:11 PM

I like Dierks Bentley

Seth82

10-17-2012, 07:20 PM

I like some of Jason's music as well.

Tattoos On This Town is one of my favorites of his anymore.

weather vane

10-18-2012, 01:25 AM

Are you and Jason buddies?

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 07:38 AM

Who gives a fuck if you write your own music?

me. it comes off as non-authentic. it just makes me lose much respect for that 'artist'.

weather vane

10-18-2012, 01:08 PM

I had a whole thing I typed out about how you are missing the point of music.

Then I realized it was a waste of time.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 01:14 PM

me. it comes off as non-authentic. it just makes me lose much respect for that 'artist'.

Do you find an actor's performance "non-authentic" when he's in a movie he didn't write?

weather vane

10-18-2012, 01:25 PM

Exactly. They take the song and interpret it, perform it, and make it their own. There is a reason why the writer doesn't just perform it themselves or when they do it is usually inferior.

10-18-2012, 02:56 PM

Yah! You think Jason Aldean could write a song about taking a ride on a big green tractor? Come on. Let the pro's do that work.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 03:11 PM

I had a whole thing I typed out about how you are missing the point of music.

Then I realized it was a waste of time. lol at the 'point of music'. but i do know what you are getting at with it. "as long as i enjoy it, who cares?" type of thing. that is pretty understandable. i am not telling anyone not enjoy it, or hating on anyone for doing so. i am just stating how i just don't respect his 'artistic abilities'

i enjoy music that is performed by people who did not write the song. though, i do not fully respect their 'musicianship' or 'artistic ability' though this varies, like how aldean seemingly writes little to nothing. out of his 4 albums, he has 1 writing credit for a song. this dude just seems like a 'creation' ala most of the pop stars around.

Do you find an actor's performance "non-authentic" when he's in a movie he didn't write?
not the same.

Exactly. They take the song and interpret it, perform it, and make it their own. There is a reason why the writer doesn't just perform it themselves or when they do it is usually inferior.
of course there are reasons for that. though it does say a lot, to me, that this guy has 4 albums and partially wrote only 1 song.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 03:27 PM

though, i must say, it works. his shows, and most 'modern' country shows, attract insane amounts of hot bitches.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 05:16 PM

not the same.

How is it not the same???

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 05:33 PM

How is it not the same???

because, generally, the actor is not expected to write their lines/characters. musicians, for the most part in modern music, are seen as the writers/poets of their time. well, the 'authentic' ones. doesn't work for a good comparison.

but, i suppose the main character of this thread could be seen as an actor.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 05:36 PM

So it comes down to "expectations". It's not the same because it's not what is "expected". It's fine for actors but not for musicians because of "expectations".

You don't see why that's flimsy reasoning?

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 05:40 PM

i expect good musicians of today to write and perform their own music? not flimsy at all.

i never once said it isn't fine for musicians to do that. do whatever works for you. i just said that i lack respect for this guy musically.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 05:49 PM

But it's different aspects, writing and performing. Whether it's music or anything. To broadly say that you lack respect for someone musically because despite being good at one aspect, they don't do another is literally the same thing as saying "I lack respect for that guy as far as movies go because although he's good at acting, he doesn't write or direct anything."

People can be songwriters and not singers. People can be singers and not songwriters. People can be actors and not directors or writers. People can be writers and not actors. Why would you lack respect for someone for being really good at what they do?

You can't just say "Because I expect..." That doesn't mean anything. I can say I expect a good chef to use only recipes he created and if I find out he uses other people's recipes I could say I lack respect for him because of it. Wouldn't make sense. The guy cooks ridiculously good food. Of course I respect him as a cook.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 05:49 PM

And let me just add that this is not an attempt to defend Jason Aldean who I do not care much for and wouldn't say I "respect" anything he does.

weather vane

10-18-2012, 05:59 PM

I respect him cheating on his wife.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 06:33 PM

People can be songwriters and not singers. People can be singers and not songwriters. People can be actors and not directors or writers. People can be writers and not actors. Why would you lack respect for someone for being really good at what they do? because there are others, in the genre and out who do what he does and more. i respect those people more than him, yes. how in any way is that wrong? all it comes down to is it being my opinion on what i feel is a good musician/artist.

You can't just say "Because I expect..." That doesn't mean anything. 9lol whut. yea, of course i can say i have expectations on what makes a good musician in my eyes. because that is totally reasonable. you are really going about this over nothing. did i say i think he is completely worthless? no. i don't respect him as much as say an Alan Jackson or even Toby Keith. is that really even ridiculous? good singers are a dime a dozen. he fits a look and background well for what he is marketed for and plays his part in making songs enjoyable.
I respect him cheating on his wife.funny how LeAnn Rhymes got loads of shit for her cheating scandal, but people are 'meh' about this.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 07:14 PM

because there are others, in the genre and out who do what he does and more. i respect those people more than him, yes. how in any way is that wrong? all it comes down to is it being my opinion on what i feel is a good musician/artist.

lol whut. yea, of course i can say i have expectations on what makes a good musician in my eyes. because that is totally reasonable. you are really going about this over nothing. did i say i think he is completely worthless? no. i don't respect him as much as say an Alan Jackson or even Toby Keith. is that really even ridiculous? good singers are a dime a dozen. he fits a look and background well for what he is marketed for and plays his part in making songs enjoyable.

"I respect people who also write their own songs more" is different than "I lack respect for people who don't write their own songs" which is what you said earlier.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 07:17 PM

funny how LeAnn Rhymes got loads of shit for her cheating scandal, but people are 'meh' about this.

Probably because more people are aware of LeAnn Rhimes to give her shit and much less people know or care who Jason Aldean is. Mainstream appeal comes with people caring more about what you do, good or bad.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 07:21 PM

"I respect people who also write their own songs more" is different than "I lack respect for people who don't write their own songs" which is what you said earlier.is this serious?

to explain anyway: both those statements go with the logic that i respect this dude less than i respect those who write their own songs. both those quotes back that up. you seem to think that just a lack of respect is somehow a total lack of respect.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 07:39 PM

So on the same level, you respect an actor less than a screenwriter who also acts in the movie, right?

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 07:43 PM

again with that comparison and another assumption. thanks for this fun little run-around. you obviously know where i stand on the musical front, but you keep playing hard to 'get' me on something. now you want to go into some debate as to why i think movie actors and musicians are different. not worth it.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 07:44 PM

Is it wrong? I assumed you would say 'yes' to that and I was gonna agree with you there...

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 07:51 PM

musicians ≠ actors. so the argument is rather pointless.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 07:52 PM

lol. They are literally people performing. Nothing more... nothing less. They are people who perform. And for some reason you have it in your mind that one is fine just performing while the other is obligated to do more or else you lose some respect for him.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 07:53 PM

I'M ONLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT MUSIC. DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THE MOVIE FORUM? IS THERE A POPCORN STAND?

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 07:53 PM

Actors act.... musicians play music... but also have to be writers. lol

I can't fathom how you don't see the weird standard here.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 07:55 PM

Totally taking out all my frustration of the whole "Psh. S/he doesn't write his/her own songs so I'm gonna shit on them." thought process some people have on you right now. No hard feelings... But your point sucks.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 07:57 PM

And for some reason you have it in your mind that one is fine just performing while the other is obligated to do more or else you lose some respect for him.
except... you know.... i never said that.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 07:59 PM

me. it comes off as non-authentic. it just makes me lose much respect for that 'artist'.

lol. Come on.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 08:00 PM

Sorry. "much" respect, not "some". My bad.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 08:09 PM

Actors act....exactly. that is all they are required to do. pretty simple way to describe their job. the term 'musician' has a wider umbrella. what if the producer, who also acts, has a smaller role and didn't have to go deep into it? i am not going to automatically respect someone more cause the produced/wrote and acted in the same movie. they could have been shit in their role. they could have a shit script. there may not be as much required of their character as compared to the main character, who did a great 'acting' job. there are many variables when it comes to the argument. which doesn't make the simple comparison of actors/musicians really fair. as we are talking about music and you keep wanting to move somewhere else .

it is as simple as i do not view the 2 forms of media in the same light. mainly probably because i grew up in/with music and i have never been an avid/regular movie watcher. i just don't care about it as much.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 08:23 PM

lol. Come on.yes, i said it about this musician. but i did not say that about actors. actors are meant to act. writers write. sometimes someone does both at once.

some musicians just sing, some just play an instrument, some just write, some do all of them. some are yoko ono. some excel at their one thing that it diminishes their lack of 'musicianship' in other areas. it's almost a case by case basis. it is not a be-all end-all rule of my 'respect'. that is why this is so ridiculous. you are taking this one instance of me not having full respect for a country singer and basing my stances of all actors/producers off of it.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 08:31 PM

It all basically comes down to you throwing in unnecessary things under the 'musician' umbrella. Because for whatever reason you've deemed someone is not allowed to choose to sing and perform music without being judged on writing as well. Why would you not fully respect their "artistic abilities" based on what artistic abilities they choose to showcase? Or a better question, do you lack respect for songwriters if they don't perform?

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 08:34 PM

you are taking this one instance of me not having full respect for a country singer and basing my stances of all actors/producers off of it.

At no point was I even bringing your lack of respect for Jason Aldean into things. In fact, I went out of my way earlier to make it clear I wasn't defending him or knocking your opinion of him but knocking the broad statement that singers need to write.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 08:38 PM

Why would you not fully respect their "artistic abilities" based on what artistic abilities they choose to showcase?because the artistic ability they choose to use/show is not really that great.
Or a better question, do you lack respect for songwriters if they don't perform?depends on how good they are.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 08:39 PM

Mainly because in his case, I do find Jason Aldean to come off as a "creation" and a fake character playing to what the typical rednecky country fan wants to hear.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 08:40 PM

because the artistic ability they choose to use/show is not really that great.

Alright, now we're getting somewhere. You don't find the artistic ability behind singing and playing music to be "that great". So this is pretty much the core of your issue...

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 08:41 PM

depends on how good they are.

Really good. Can't play an instrument to save their life though.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 08:42 PM

At no point was I even bringing your lack of respect for Jason Aldean into things. In fact, I went out of my way earlier to make it clear I wasn't defending him or knocking your opinion of him but knocking the broad statement that singers need to write.but i am not out-and-out saying that. i am talking about how i lack respect for this guy because he is basically a cookie-cutter country singer. i have been pretty much using him as my example the whole time.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 08:47 PM

Who gives a fuck if you write your own music?

me. it comes off as non-authentic. it just makes me lose much respect for that 'artist'.

This was what I was talking about. Jason Aldean never came into my mind with this. Just this statement.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 08:49 PM

You don't find the artistic ability behind singing and playing music to be "that great". what? no.

you asked: "Why would you not fully respect their "artistic abilities" based on what artistic abilities they choose to showcase?" and i basically said i would not fully respect someone if they are shit/nothing special at what they do.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 08:52 PM

This was what I was talking about. Jason Aldean never came into my mind with this. Just this statement.
except i probably just worded that wrong. i've pretty much been consistently talking about this dude.

#1-norm-fan

10-18-2012, 08:55 PM

Well I wouldn't expect you to respect this guy whether he wrote his own music or not. It would still come off as non-authentic pandering. He comes off as quite lame.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 08:55 PM

Really good. Can't play an instrument to save their life though.then they are a good writer.

Wehttam

10-18-2012, 08:59 PM

Well I wouldn't expect you to respect this guy whether he wrote his own music or not. It would still come off as non-authentic pandering. He comes off as quite lame.while i am not a 'fan' i have mad respect for whitney houston and early-ish mariah carey. they didn't write their own shit i bet. they just were mega awesome singers and their peak

weather vane

10-19-2012, 01:51 AM

you guys ruined my life

Wehttam

10-19-2012, 07:29 AM

mission accomplished

DaveBrawl

10-19-2012, 09:00 AM

Jamey Johnson hasn't gotten the recognition he deserves in here.

#1-norm-fan

10-20-2012, 04:24 PM

I'm a fan of Jamey Johnson.

DaveWadding

10-20-2012, 05:13 PM

Zac Brown is a fridge.

#1-norm-fan

10-20-2012, 06:19 PM

I'm not sure what that means.

#1-norm-fan

10-20-2012, 06:19 PM

He gets meat packed in him? Are you calling Zac Brown gay?

James Steele

10-20-2012, 08:19 PM

#1-wwf-fan, can you do me a favor?

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#1-norm-fan

10-20-2012, 10:20 PM

OH COME ON!

James Steele

10-21-2012, 02:50 AM

I'm sorry #1-wwf-fan, it's just that...

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#1-norm-fan

10-21-2012, 02:24 PM

... I fucking love that song...

James Steele

10-22-2012, 07:52 AM

I fucking love <s>you</s> it too.

James Steele

10-22-2012, 08:36 AM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EbEIPrrCAnI/SkooXJoCnwI/AAAAAAAAA5w/0M5vr0Zd59I/s1600/harry_bigfoot.jpg

#1-norm-fan

10-22-2012, 02:19 PM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbxtkh6s8X1r61a7no7_250.gif

#1-norm-fan

10-22-2012, 07:21 PM

Last week I discovered an alternative country artist from Chicago that I became instantly obsessed with named Robbie Fulks. I noticed via some youtube videos he had some shows outside Illinois so I decided to see if he was coming anywhere near me at any point. I look on his website. Illinois, Illinois, Illinois, Illinois... then on October 19th (3 days ago) Winters, Ca. Winters is a small, obscure town about 20 minutes from where I live. Tonight he's back in Chicago already. Ridiculously bad timing and random that he was so close 2 days ago. This made me sad.

#1-norm-fan

10-22-2012, 07:22 PM

However the point of this story is that Robbie Fulks is a guy who is better than almost anyone on country radio today.

DaveBrawl

10-22-2012, 08:34 PM

#1-norm-fan

10-23-2012, 02:34 PM

While that was quite the opposite of a typical mainstream country song, it also came off as trying way too hard to do just that. However, he makes a good point with that last line.

#1-norm-fan

10-23-2012, 02:47 PM

DaveBrawl

10-25-2012, 09:34 AM

While that was quite the opposite of a typical mainstream country song, it also came off as trying way too hard to do just that. However, he makes a good point with that last line.
Yeah most of their stuff I have heard is mostly covers of older country songs, or in the vein of Johnny Cash and Hank Jr. but I heard that one on the radio the other day and it seemed relevant to some of the comments in here.

weather vane

10-25-2012, 12:35 PM

most of the comments in here are gay

#1-norm-fan

10-25-2012, 01:12 PM

most of the comments in here are gay

I blame James Steele.

DaveBrawl

10-25-2012, 01:20 PM

I blame everyone but me.

weather vane

10-25-2012, 03:47 PM

I blame myself!

DaveBrawl

10-25-2012, 04:01 PM

No Spilchuk you are never the problem. You are the solution. You are 100p mint.

weather vane

10-25-2012, 05:42 PM

so mint

James Steele

10-26-2012, 01:51 AM

most of the comments in here are gay

How about you...

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